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I need some advice, and reassurance. I have been on Zoloft (Setraline) for about 5 years and I have never really had any problems going on it from what I remember, I was on 50mg and never went up any higher occasionally if I forgot a dose I would be reminded with brain zaps, I occasionally got dilated pupils which may have been the zoloft and thats really the only issues I got. Then one day I went to my Dr about some issue and she then decided to up my dose to 100mg. Faithfully like a good patient I took it and about a month later I had horrible insomnia and racing heart so I was put back on 50mg. The side effects subsided within a week and that all was fine until, 2 months being back on the 50mg I got the same symptoms again, racing heart and insomnia, so I decided to quit them. After about a week my heart is back to normal but 3 weeks later i'm still suffering really bad insomnia.... Will this go away... I have never had any issues falling asleep before but now I can lay awake trying to sleep for hours! Sometimes I will try all night and sleep won't come, its given me really bad anxiety about bed time, I also seem to never feel tired.. I will have to force sleep even after a day without it, This is horrible and giving me real anxiety over it. The Dr gave me Quitapine 25mg for sleep but I just want my normal sleep back. Is this the Zoloft? Will this fade?

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Welcome to SA, Meeka.  Sorry for the delay in responding to you.

 

What has very likely happened is that your nervous system has become sensitized from all the dose changes.  This is called kindling.   You were okay on 50mg initially but after the dose changes that is no longer the case.  You are also suffering from withdrawal from the cold turkey off Zoloft.

By no longer taking the Zoloft, you've eliminated one cause of the insomnia.  However, the other source, withdrawal, remains.  Insomnia is one of the most common withdrawal symptoms.

 

 
 
The insomnia will fade with time.  Unfortunately, we can't tell you how much time.  While some recover fairly quickly others take longer.  
 
You are wise not to take the Quetiapine.  It is very easy to become dependent on it and once you are dependent it requires a slow taper to get off it.

We recommend non-drug techniques to deal with withdrawal symptoms.

 

Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia
 
 
Trick and tips to fall asleep faster
 
This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  
 
 
Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   
 
 
It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  
 
We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

 

 

Please research all supplements first and only add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.
 
This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

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Altostrata

Hello, Meeka, how are you doing?

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Meeka

Hi just logged on and read the comments Im doing ok thank you for asking, insomnia still there but I am getting enough sleep now, only problem is not feeling tired, I dont really feel sleepy when I should. And im still getting occasional brain zaps, but no where as bad as I use to. Still a little worried about the whole wired feeling but I suppose this will fade? Thank you for your comments. It has helped a lot 😃 wasn't expecting to have withdrawals for this long but I have read that some have them for longer.   

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Meeka

Hi I still have insomnia but my worst issue is never feeling tired? At all, is this apart of the insomnia problem? I have been taking one pill of 25mg of Quetiapine for sleep which makes me sleep better than if I didnt take them but the Dr now wants me to start the pills Mirtazapine shes saying that the quetiapine isnt an antidepressant and is only a sleeping aid? I do not plan on taking this medication Mirtazapine as I dont want anything else to happen...... This is the same Dr who seen me at the Hospital after upping my dose of Setraline and I suffered with Insomnia and fast heart rate and told me it was Gastro..  Shes blaming the insomnia on Depression.
I know the insomnia is from the setraline because the fast heart rate and the insomnia started at the same time..
I just want to know if never feeling tired is a symptom of withdrawing from the setraline stuff still......

So over it...

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Meeka

Hi I know this is not my post but I need help.  I stopped taking setraline after an increase in dose 100mg setraline made my heart race and severe insomnia started. I then went back to 50mg all was ok for a month then symptoms started again. So I CT altogether. Since then I have still had insomnia, fast heart rate and this last week I have been getting kidney pain and cant eat properly, I throw up in the mornings and feel hot and sometimes sweat. Is this Withdrawal symptoms 2 months after stopping Setraline CT ? Im thinking about going back on setraline to reduce withdrawal effects but what dose do I start on? 

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manymoretodays

Hi Meeka, @Meeka

I just moved your post from another members topic back here to your introduction.  This is the best place for your posts right now.  It's really helpful to have your information all in one place.

Can you clarify for us what you are taking now, or some of your recent drug history with dates?  One way to do this:

Please put your withdrawal history in your signature to help the moderators.

Just follow the instructions in the link above

 

Or........post right here. 

Note the time on the left.   And then by name and dose any drugs you are presently taking on the right. 

When did you go off sertraline?  Even an approximate date is helpful.

Are you still taking quetiapine?  Dates of usage?

Did you start mirtazapine?

 

How are you doing today?

 

12 hours ago, Meeka said:

Is this Withdrawal symptoms 2 months after stopping Setraline CT ? Im thinking about going back on setraline to reduce withdrawal effects but what dose do I start on? 

 

And yes, we do see WD(withdrawal) symptoms all the time 2 mos. after stopping.  Did you get a look at some of the links in the first post to you, above?

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms

including this^ for reference.

Tips for tapering off Zoloft(sertraline)

^ I'm also including this for reference, good information as far as options for getting the smaller doses needed for reinstatement

 

I think we need some more information from you, before any suggestions can be made.  Especially around your more recent drugs/medications.  Do you have any sertraline left?  And keep in mind, that we usually are going to recommend a dose much smaller than what you had been on.

Hope to hear from you soon.

 

All for now.

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

 

 

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Altostrata

Hello, Meeka. Yes, you have withdrawal syndrome. You might do better with a reinstatement of 5mg Zoloft. It comes in a prescription liquid for this purpose.

 

See Tips for tapering off Zoloft(sertraline)

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

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Hell

As someone who struggle with insomnia I am really sorry you have to go through this hell Meeka. And don't worry about posting in my thread about your problem. I hope you can recover soon. Take care.

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Meeka

No never took Mitazipine or whatever it is. im scared its something else I been to doctor they did bloods but all came back good. I dont feel well... I really hope its just withdrawals.  

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Meeka

This morning I cut up a 50mg setraline pill hopefully was close to 5mg .  Im also taking since this morning a Beta blocker Tensig 25mg  for the fast heart rate, I wanted to get off all these medications.... I never had any Insomnia, heart rate issues before the Dr upped my dosage to 100mg of setraline about 6ish months ago? I've just gone down hill since. 
Would her upping my dose from 50mg to 100mg caused all this......  I was never on any other medications or drugs, I dont even smoke or have any alcohol..... I feel so defeated..... 
Also Hell I have been reading your story and really I can relate with the insomnia, its horrible, Mine stared up a month after the Dr put me on 100mg I cannot sleep without taking 12mg of Quietiapine (however its spelt)  I guess I feel confused because all my symptoms with switching dosages and quitting CT have all been delayed reactions. I hate this so much... 
 

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manymoretodays

Hi Mika,

You just started the Tensig today/yesterday?  The comparable beta blocker here in the U.S. is called Atenolol.

We encourage members to learn more about their drugs, and also to check interactions at this site:  Drugs.com

What comes up for you, as far as drug interactions is here.

 

Best to keep the beta blocker and sertraline now spaced out(time of dosing) from the quetiapine.

And both your quetiapine and beta blocker should be tapered off, rather than just quitting them or CT(cold turkey). 

So you have been on the 12 mg of quetiapine for 2 months now?

 

 

Tips for tapering off Zoloft(sertraline)

^ this will give you some ideas about how to get a 5 mg dose of sertraline

Have you had a chance to look at this to learn how to be a bit more accurate with your sertraline reinstatement. 

 

Also, as you've just started something new, in the way of Tensig, you might want to observe and see how you do with that, before doing your reinstatement of sertraline.  It just really helps to do some careful observation now that you are well into a Withdrawal Syndrome.

 

How are you today?

 

Best. L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

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Meeka

Hi yes 12mg of the Quietiapine for around 2 months I have already started Setraline in the mornings about 5mgs I cut up the 50mg pill. How long Do I have to do this before I can up the dosage? I also take the tensig half a tablet of 25mg in the mornings as well.
Im still not doing well... Im waking up feeling nauseous, im having hot flushes and sweating also kidney pain. Im so scared its something else... I cant do this much longer, Im panicking over this...   

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Altostrata

Meeka, did you take a piece of Zoloft? How did you feel afterward?

 

You're also taking quetiapine at night? Please add approximate dates you started quetiapine and beta blocker in your signature.

 

How do you feel after you take quetiapine?

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Meeka

I feel that I can sleep on the quetiapine I have added that to my signature it makes me sleepy I take it at night before bed,"

The last 2 mornings I have taken 5mg Setraline but my anxiety is still through the roof with how im feeling.. I dont really have any relief at the moment.
 

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On 12/7/2019 at 8:34 AM, Meeka said:

Hi I still have insomnia but my worst issue is never feeling tired? At all, is this apart of the insomnia problem?

Meeka, I was also taking Sertraline 50mg, and I can tell you that my sleep is now largely normal.

 

It felt like I was never going to get out. But I did, and so will you :}

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On 1/14/2020 at 6:27 PM, Meeka said:

Hi yes 12mg of the Quietiapine for around 2 months I have already started Setraline in the mornings about 5mgs I cut up the 50mg pill. How long Do I have to do this before I can up the dosage? I also take the tensig half a tablet of 25mg in the mornings as well.
Im still not doing well... Im waking up feeling nauseous, im having hot flushes and sweating also kidney pain. Im so scared its something else... I cant do this much longer, Im panicking over this...   

 

Hi Meeka,

Easy does it right now.  And yes, the panic feelings can be quite extreme.  Let's continue to try and get some of your recent history sorted out.  And then I'll give another link to show you how you can give us some daily notes. 

 

How's this look for your signature?   I put the years first and then the drugs and dosages.  We don't usually ask for symptoms in the signature.  This is the part that you see below posts and just a brief snapshot of your recent medication history.

 

2011 Paradoxene(? paroxetine) 20mg, brief use, adverse reactions.
2011-2014 Cymbalta
2014-2019 sertraline (zoloft) 50mg

2019- ? October,  sertraline dose increased to 100 mg, adverse effects, decrease to 50 mg, and then CT early November
2019 early November, Quetiapine 25mg , to 12.5 mg
2020 January 13 Setraline 5mg  reinstated, added Tensig 12.5 mg(like atenolol, a beta blocker)

 

If that all looks okay, I can plug it in, or if you feel up to it, you can do that by going to Accounts Settings> signature(on the left) and then edit it yourself.

 

On 1/14/2020 at 11:14 PM, Altostrata said:

Meeka, did you take a piece of Zoloft? How did you feel afterward?

 

You're also taking quetiapine at night? Please add approximate dates you started quetiapine and beta blocker in your signature.

 

How do you feel after you take quetiapine?


 

 

On 1/15/2020 at 4:45 AM, Meeka said:

I feel that I can sleep on the quetiapine I have added that to my signature it makes me sleepy I take it at night before bed,"

The last 2 mornings I have taken 5mg Setraline but my anxiety is still through the roof with how im feeling.. I dont really have any relief at the moment.
 

 

We are trying to figure out how the symptoms are related to your drugs.

Any relief after taking the Tensig(beta blocker) 12.5 mg ?

 

Take a look at this too, Meeka:  Keeping daily notes of drugs and symptoms

You could try reporting back in a format like the sample one you'll see there.

 

(((((((Meeka)))))))

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

 

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Account link added, corrected present quetiapine dose

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Meeka

Sorry yes that looks all fine thank you so much, I actually had worsening of withdrawal symptoms and extreme panic so I upped my dose to 25mg Setraline 4 days ago hoping I would get rid of the WD effects, the Nausea is gone it went away 2 days ago but still having some panic and hot flushes. My mind seems to be confused by all of this. But hoping the worst is over..  

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Meeka

My mind doesn't seem to be with it at the moment, still very spacey and zoned out

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manymoretodays

Hi Meeka,

Okay, good on your signature now.

 

On 1/19/2020 at 10:48 PM, Meeka said:

Sorry yes that looks all fine thank you so much, I actually had worsening of withdrawal symptoms and extreme panic so I upped my dose to 25mg Setraline 4 days ago hoping I would get rid of the WD effects, the Nausea is gone it went away 2 days ago but still having some panic and hot flushes. My mind seems to be confused by all of this. But hoping the worst is over..  

 

How are you?

Could you add the updose to 25 mg. of Sertraline to your signature?  January 15.  Account Settings> signature

What is a day like for you now? 

 

On 1/19/2020 at 10:50 PM, Meeka said:

My mind doesn't seem to be with it at the moment, still very spacey and zoned out

 

Sounds like brain fog.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15496-brain-fog-blank-mind-comprehension-concentration-cognitive-and-memory-

 

How is your sleep?

 

Just checking on you.  @Meeka

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

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Meeka

My sleep is ok, I will have times where I feel ok but most of the time Im riddled with anxiety I am having some trouble with my appetite and still having hot flashes and clammy hands and feet, it seems to be worse during the day. My mind races and I often think these symptoms are from something else going on with me I need constant reassurance that they are indeed withdrawal symptoms. I get panicy still. My normal day is I will lay in bed as long as I can have a panic attack try to relax and go back to sleep. I will finally get up have a long bath to try to relax, out of the bath I will try to eat and drink something then usually panic again. then it will calm down and seem to be a little better by the late afternoon. Constantly browsing SA for similar symptoms.. Worry I have cancer or something like that....... Worry how long I will be like this for..... Planning my death....  Then around bed time it will seem to sometimes lift and I will feel great, I will feel like eating and doing stuff. watch tv.. Nausea hasn't really come back, but worry it will as I cant deal with nausea....  Heart rate seems ok sometimes, sleep is fine. I do manage to eat when I can. The more I do I find the more I have hot flashes and sweat or become clammy in the hands and feet. I have to go for drives nearly every night to calm me. Had to take some Valium 5mg sometimes when it gets bad. I find all it really does is relax me... When it gets bad I feel left side kidney ache and worry its something kidney related....... I worry about my health alot.. Im just coping at the moment with all these withdrawal symptoms.....

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