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Hi I am new on this site. Firstly this site is very helpful and thank you all.

Now I am in really bad situation and I need advice. This is my drug history:

  • January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg
  • April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg
  • August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.
  • Oct 15 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg. Now I am on 10 mg Prozac.

My bad symptoms started when I quit Effexor and did bridge with 20 mg Prozac. But I could manage symptoms for a while. I think Prozac worked because I could function. But 3 months after I quit Effexor, I tapered Prozac to 10 mg. Symptoms got worse then. I am crying every day and anxiety is horrible. I am taking Omega 3. This helps with headache. But I can't manage emotional symptoms. What should I do? Should I updose Prozac?

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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Welcome to SA, daenerys.

 

Your taper from 20 to 10mg was very fast, causing withdrawal symptoms.  We recommend tapering no more than 10% of current dose every four weeks.

 

You're still within the time frame (3 months) when an updose or reinstatement predictably work.  Please read:

 

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms. -- at least the first page of the topic

 

You could try an updose of 2mg.  The following link tells you how to obtain the small nonstandard doses you'll need for your updose.  If liquid Prozac is available in Turkey, that would be the easiest method.  Otherwise, you can make your own liquid, as described in the link.

 

Tips for tapering off Prozac (fluoxetine)

 

It takes about a week for the full effect of the updose to be felt, though you could feel some relief within a day or two.

 

It's a good idea to keep daily notes on paper to track how your updose is working.

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Gridley thank you for your reply. I did  updose of 2 mg. I will let you know how  i an doing.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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  • Altostrata changed the title to daenerys Effexor Withdrawal and Prozac
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Welcome, daenerys.

 

On 11/27/2019 at 12:26 AM, daenerys said:

My bad symptoms started when I quit Effexor and did bridge with 20 mg Prozac. But I could manage symptoms for a while. I think Prozac worked because I could function.

 

Why did you decide to go from 150mg Effexor to 20mg Prozac? How well did Prozac substitute for the Effexor?

 

What symptoms did you have after the switch? Did they gradually reduce? Why did you decide to cut 20mg to 10mg Prozac?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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10 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Welcome, daenerys.

 

 

Why did you decide to go from 150mg Effexor to 20mg Prozac? How well did Prozac substitute for the Effexor?

 

What symptoms did you have after the switch? Did they gradually reduce? Why did you decide to cut 20mg to 10mg Prozac?

 

Thank you Altostrata.

I decided to bridge with Prozac because it locked safer for me. I did overlap two drugs for tek week then switched to Prozac. After the switch my symptoms were heartache, nausea, sleep problems, sexual problems, feeling depressed. But they gradually reduced. I guess Prozac worked. Only sexual problem didn't reduced.

I decided to cut Prozac because of long half life. I thought  it dont affect. But i was wrong. Symptoms got worse five weeks after cut. Now i reinstated and waiting.

 

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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Does Prozac reinstaion work? Or should I go back to Effexor?

I reinstated only two days ago but anxiety is still horrible.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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2 hours ago, daenerys said:

Does Prozac reinstaion work? Or should I go back to Effexor?

I reinstated only two days ago but anxiety is still horrible.

 

It takes about a week for the full effects of the reinstatement to work.  

 

You've made many changes in your drugs and doses in the last several months.  You need to let your system stabilize and make no further changes.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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How much Prozac are you taking now? It will take at least a week for Prozac to reach full effect in your bloodstream.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

How much Prozac are you taking now? It will take at least a week for Prozac to reach full effect in your bloodstream.

 

 I am taking12 mg Prozac now.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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Has 12mg Prozac had any effect?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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I also bridged from Effexor to Prozac, though my intention was to try Prozac for anxiety and derealization because some years ago it helped me for a long time despite eventual poop-out. My psych had me taper off the Effexor (May 2019) way too fast (3 weeks). I started having withdrawal symptoms, and they got worse two months later when I also tapered too fast off Wellbutrin. I experienced frequent and daily surges of anxiety, early morning "cortisol anxiety," and crying nearly every day, mostly in the morning. It took about 3 months, but if it's some consolation the crying eased off and stopped, and then during the past month the anxiety surges and early morning anxiety have pretty much dissipated. I continue to experience low-level anxiety at times, heavy derealization fog, blurred vision, fatigue, and several bowel movements every day. As was recommended to you and thanks to the administrators here, I have made no significant medication or supplement changes during the entire past six months. I tried Attivan for a very short time to ease the anxiety, but I was advised it would be best not to take any benzo so I stopped. I'm trying to be infinitely patient and have the support of a good therapist who works with me in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT).

Fluoxetine 1997-2014, 2015, 10-40 mg. GAD and DR symptoms returned  April 2013.

Bupropion 2013-14, 4 mos; Lexapro 2014; Cymbalta 2014. Gabapentin 2014; Mirtazapene 2014. Buspirone 2015.

Venlafaxine Dec. 2015 – May 2019, 150 mg, tapered to 0 in 3 weeks, May-June 2019

Bupropion Mar 2017 – July 2019 300 mg, tapered to 0 in 3 weeks, July 2019

Fluoxetine/Prozac May 2019 – present, tapered from 20 mg started Jan 2020, linear 10% every 4 wks.; tapered 6 to 4 mg June, 2, 2020; 4 to 1.8 mg Aug. 26, 2020; updose from 1.8 mg to 2.0 Nov. 16, 2020. Holding at 2.0 mg as of Mar 14,2021. April 14, 2021 updosed to 2.5 mg.

D3 2,000 mg; Omega 3 360 EPA/240 DHA; Magnesium Chelate 250 mg; Inositol powder started Nov 12, 2020; Theanine 400 mg; cranial electrotherapy stimulation device, self-treatments started Mar 14, 2021.

 

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11 hours ago, daenerys said:

 

 I am taking12 mg Prozac now.

 

It didn't have any effect but I reinstated  3 days ago.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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9 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Has 12mg Prozac had any effect?

 

It didn't have any effect but I reinstated  3 days ago.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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7 hours ago, Edmunds said:

I also bridged from Effexor to Prozac, though my intention was to try Prozac for anxiety and derealization because some years ago it helped me for a long time despite eventual poop-out. My psych had me taper off the Effexor (May 2019) way too fast (3 weeks). I started having withdrawal symptoms, and they got worse two months later when I also tapered too fast off Wellbutrin. I experienced frequent and daily surges of anxiety, early morning "cortisol anxiety," and crying nearly every day, mostly in the morning. It took about 3 months, but if it's some consolation the crying eased off and stopped, and then during the past month the anxiety surges and early morning anxiety have pretty much dissipated. I continue to experience low-level anxiety at times, heavy derealization fog, blurred vision, fatigue, and several bowel movements every day. As was recommended to you and thanks to the administrators here, I have made no significant medication or supplement changes during the entire past six months. I tried Attivan for a very short time to ease the anxiety, but I was advised it would be best not to take any benzo so I stopped. I'm trying to be infinitely patient and have the support of a good therapist who works with me in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT).

 

Edmunds thank you for reply. 

I am glad you are better now. Do you think Prozac bridge had any benefits? 

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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Hi I want to update.

 

I reinstated one week ago. I am still struggling but I have seen little improvements. My anxiety has little bit reduced. Mornings are still hard. I am doing breath exercises. I am feeling depressed but I don't crying everyday. I hope it gets better. Because anxiety is really hard.

 

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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On 11/29/2019 at 7:52 PM, Altostrata said:

How much Prozac are you taking now? It will take at least a week for Prozac to reach full effect in your bloodstream.

 

I need help. I did updose Prozac to 12 mg one week ago. I think I am little bit better now but my anxiety is still bad. I am trying yoga but I can't cope now.

 

Should I go back to 20 mg? I was better when before I reduced Prozac.

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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I might try 15mg rather than jumping up to 20mg. A little bit can go a long way.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Last week I reinstated Prozac to 20 mg. I think it worked.

 

My anxiety is more manageable. Crying spells are reduced. I still wake up early in mornings but İ don't feel anxious too much. Now my worst symptom is feeling depressed. 

January 2012-April 2019 on Effexor 225 mg

April-August 2019 I tapered Effexor to 150 mg

August 2019 I did bridge  with 20 mg Prozac and quit Effexor.

Oct 15, 2019 I tapered Prozac to 10 mg.

Nov 27, 2019 I reinstated Prozac to 12 mg.

Dec 7,2019 Prozac 20 mg

Now I am on 20 mg Prozac. SupplementsOmega 3,  D vit.

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  • ChessieCat changed the title to daenerys: Effexor Withdrawal and Prozac
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How are you doing Daenerys?

2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) 2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

April 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :  7mg Fluoxetine (since 20 Aug 2020)

+ 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

(Toothpick Paroxetine from September 2020 to 17th March 2021)

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