Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 3, 2018 These discussions may be helpful: ☼-brassmonkey-talking-about-myself are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
dove Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 12 hours ago, ChessieCat said: These discussions may be helpful: ☼-brassmonkey-talking-about-myself are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 Will I ever get completely healed? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 1:11 PM, dove said: Will I ever get completely healed? Now I am still taking Abilify and methylphenifate May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Antipshychotics worse than antidepressants? In my experience it was much worse to leave amisulpride than for example paroxetine. Is it posible that neuroleptics have worse withdrawal than antidepressants? Edited August 12, 2018 by ChessieCat Added topic title to post then moved to Intro topic May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
DMV64 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Hi Dove, I can only speak for myself, but I think the neuroleptics are hideous. I am having a heck of a time. 2001- Klonopin 0.125 mg. 2011- increase to 1 mg. 2018- increase to 1.5 mg 2010- Trials of SSRI's, several. 2011- Saphris 5 mg. CT. 6/2017- retry Saphris 5 mg sublingual, begin taper August 2020 10% taper with scale, and final taper liquid sublingual, August 2019- taper complete! 2011- Geodon 20 mg. Begin taper Sept 2019. 10% liquid taper. 2020: December-5 mg. 2021: Jan-4.5mg. (held Feb.for vacation). March-4mg. Apr-3.6mg. May-3.2mg. June-2.8mg. (Held July for vacation). Aug-2.4mg. Sept.- 2.2mg. Oct. 2mg. Dec 2022 - Taper complete! 2011- Gabapentin 300 mg to present- 2020. Increase 2023 to 400mg. 2014- Vyvanse 20 mg, 2020- Vyvanse 5 mg. Increase August 2022 20mg 2016- Lithium 300 mg, June 2016 - FT. 2017- Cogentin 0.5 mg. June-August 2019- off Cogentin. 2021 - Hydroxyzine 30mg. Holding. Omeprazole 20 mg and holding, Omega 3's/fish oil, Magnesium Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 12, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 12, 2018 @dove I've merged the new Intro topic your created with your original Intro topic. Each member has only 1 Intro topic. This is the place to ask questions about your own situation and where you can journal your progress. It keeps your history in one place. Please do not create any more intro topics. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SkyBlue Posted August 13, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 13, 2018 13 hours ago, dove said: Antipshychotics worse than antidepressants? In my experience it was much worse to leave amisulpride than for example paroxetine. Is it posible that neuroleptics have worse withdrawal than antidepressants? It depends on the person. SSRIs, benzos, neuroleptics, they're all powerful and withdrawal from any of them can be debilitating and disabling. Done slowly enough, tapering can minimize withdrawal from any of them. 2020: After 18+ years (entire adult life) on Paxil, a dangerous doctor-led "taper" in 2015, and four years tapering off the last 1 mg thanks to SA and the Brassmonkey slide, I AM COMPLETELY FREE OF PAXIL! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Forever. 2021: Began conservative, proper, CNS-respecting taper of Zoloft, led by the only expert on me -- me. Making own liquid. 5-10% plus holds. 2022: Holding on Zoloft for now. Current dose 47 mg. Hanging in, hanging on. Severe protracted PAWS, windows and waves. While I may not be doing "a lot" by outside standards, things are graaaaadually getting better. Yoga (gentle to medium); walks; daily breath practice; nutrition, fruits/veg; nature; water; EastEnders (lol); practicing self-compassion, self-care; boundaries; connection; allowing feelings; t r u s t ing that I, too, will heal. (--> may need to be reminded of this.) "You are not alone, and this is not the end of your story." - Baylissa Link to comment
dove Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Has any female taken Solian here? Did it take your period away? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think I have never told that amisulpride took my period away May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 16, 2018 I've just done a quick google on the term: Amisulpride menstruation From: wikipedia.org/wiki/Amisulpride "Chemically it is a benzamide and like other benzamide antipsychotics, such as sulpiride, it is associated with a high risk of elevating blood levels of the lactation hormone, prolactin (thereby potentially causing the absence of the menstrual cycle, ..." * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
dove Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Does anyone have boredom as a withdrawal symtom? Can it also be a symtom the feeling of a general boredom? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Or lack of meaning of life May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted December 24, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 24, 2018 Yes, I think "boredom" as you have termed it is a withdrawal symptom. However, it's not boredom in the usual sense of the word. I think it is related to the anhedonia, cognitive/memory problems and depersonalisation/derealisation withdrawal symptoms. For me it varies in intensity. I went from noticing that things needed to be done but not caring about them at all. Then it changed to noticing and wanting to do something but not having the mental energy to even get up and consider doing them. This has changed a bit where I have times when I can do some things. The winter before last I was enjoying crocheting, but this winter I didn't. This time last year I spent a few months on sewing clothes for myself, including having to trace out the patterns, yet recently I've had the hardest time just making some very simple zippered pouches to hold my headset and coffee things for work. The most noticeable thing I find is that I will be sitting at the computer and want to be doing something but when I go to do it I stand there and look around and think no, I don't have the mental energy to concentrate on doing it so I give up. It's very frustrating. During the 3 years I've been tapering I've also noticed that there are times when I can do word puzzles and at other times it's maths puzzles. I used to play Angry Birds Friends for hours before tapering, then I found that it increased my anxiety so I had to stop. I can now play it again but only for short periods of time because it still increases the adrenaline too much. During my taper I had great difficulty reading a book. I've recently started being able to do this but not to the same extent as I used to. Links: anhedonia-apathy-demotivation-emotional-numbness derealization-or-depersonalization-dr-and-dp brain-fog-blank-mind-comprehension-cognitive-and-memory-problems * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
dove Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 How many years can withdrawal last? For me it has been 10 years now, can it last that long? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted December 25, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take From this topic: protracted-withdrawal-or-paws-post-acute-withdrawal-syndrome-how-long-does-it-last Altostrata, this site's founder said back in 2011: On 6/10/2011 at 3:03 AM, Altostrata said: squirrel, no one can say what to do about treating protracted withdrawal syndrome overall because it's a lot of different symptoms. The primary cause probably is a brain center that was affected by the medication -- see one-theory-of-antidepressant-withdrawal-syndrome From there, a lot of systems in the nervous system and the body get bad signals. The symptoms become diffuse. The best we can do is try to reduce symptoms one by one. I've still recovering, at nearly 7 years off Paxil. And the link to Alto's journey: about-altostrata-withdrawal-syndrome-since-2004 Edited December 25, 2018 by ChessieCat added link to Alto's story * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
dove Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 I am afraid I have developed what is called PSSD, well not exactly PSSD because what I took was not an antidepressant but amisulpride. The strange thing was that I hadn´t develop it through all of these years of prolonged withdrawal. Can you develop PSSD so late in withdrawal or is other thing? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 It has been a year now since I developed PSSD May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 19, 2019 Administrator Share Posted January 19, 2019 How are your other symptoms, dove? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
dove Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Depression has almost gone away, at least the worst syntoms of depression (severe anhedonia, crying, feeling suicidal, insomnia etc) but I still take medication because they force me to do so. Currently on Abilify and methilphenidate (Ritalin)... Edited January 31, 2019 by ChessieCat added ritalin May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
dove Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 I am trying Evening Primrose oil for pssd, could it help? Or nothing really works for this? May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 4, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 4, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 4:42 AM, dove said: Currently on Abilify and methilphenidate (Ritalin)... Please update your drug signature: Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
dove Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) Topic title: Drug free or not? You end up in the trap that you need the drugs to function but they don't seem to make any effect. It is a tough decission wether to take the drugs or not. Edited August 17, 2019 by ChessieCat added topic title May-August 2006 Risperdal 1mg (left without tapering) First depressive episode One year 2006- 2007 Seroxat 60mg (again no taper) Second depressive episode 8 months free of meds May- December 2008 Solian 200mg (left it in less than two weeks) Depression becomes "chronic" February 2018 Abilify 5mg and methylphenidate until now Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 17, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 2/4/2019 at 6:43 PM, ChessieCat said: Please update your drug signature: Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 17, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 17, 2019 has-anyone-decided-that-it-was-best-for-them-to-stay-on-meds-indefinitely extreme-difficulty-when-in-final-stretch-stay-on-low-dose-forever tapering-to-almost-zero-and-staying-there * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
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