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A bath.  If you don't tolerate the Epsom salts, just take a bath.  Nice and warm.  Black out your sleeping area too.

You're probably just gonna have a worse "can of worms" to deal with, after your benzo.

And it looks like progressive increases in your sleep the last couple of nights.

 

Meditation of some type?  I'd do meditation over medication any time now.  I mean even if it consists of you writing out all your squirrley thoughts on paper.  And then......just let them go for a bit.  Burn the paper if that helps, once you are done writing.  Pick a simple phrase to repeat over and over that works for you......."I am healing" might be good.

 

Try some of the EFT even, you can find the nine points in the link, I put in there, and then even do a guided tapping, or one of your own making.  Two times through and I am usually much improved.

EFT(emotional freedom techniques)

 

And more in the indexed list, first post here:  Non-drug techniques to cope

 

Sleep tonight Pens, sleep.......B)❤️

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Personally I find that always taking showers and keeping good sleep hygiene the best alternative to pills if your going through withdrawal

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6 hours ago, Pens said:

@manymoretodaysim going to have to resort to taking clonazepam for tonight because I just can’t deal with this lack of sleep I’ve tried everything nutritionally and the only thing that gets me the four hour sleep is the 25 mg gravel. I can’t sleep through the day and I’m pale and white and faint. So I’m going to try a small dose tonight just to get one or two nights sleep. Unless you have other suggestions.even tied a bit of magnesium.

having a bad day, thankyou will try your suggestions. It’s becoming difficult to function on so little sleep. I’m going to get serious with a food diary. I’m reading a lot of posts about stomach issues. Did you have this problem? I’ve become very sensitive to a lot of food. 💐💐💐

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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8 hours ago, zulan said:

Personally I find that always taking showers and keeping good sleep hygiene the best alternative to pills if your going through withdrawal

 

Hi zulan, @zulan

Yes, thank you.  I think that we each do find our way with non-drug coping, that works best for us.

Would you like to start an introduction topic, for yourself? 

Just go to the top of the page and on the right you'll see the start new topic option, in Introductions.  Thanks.

 

@Pens, are you getting any sunshine, where you are at?  That always helped me.  To get some sunshine early in the day.  Seemed to improve my sleep, when it was off. 

6 hours ago, Pens said:

It’s becoming difficult to function on so little sleep. I’m going to get serious with a food diary. I’m reading a lot of posts about stomach issues. Did you have this problem? I’ve become very sensitive to a lot of food. 💐💐💐

 

Just a little bit of stomach problems, early on.  Not a whole lot now.  I do try to eat well, less processed food and all that, more fresh and whole foods.  I don't always pull it off completely though.  Yes, a diary might be telling for you.  A good idea.  I may join you, in that endeavor.  Always trying to find out ways to maximize my health and energy levels now.

 

Late now, and.......oh I hope you are sleeping well.

 

Best, L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Morning @manymoretodays I was wondering ,am I having problems from tapering because i came off of pristiq and mirtazapine too quickly? I would also like to mention that yesterday I went very pale and white, face and hands, is this a symptom of withdrawal? I got some lab work done yesterday just waiting for the doctor to call back. I have had an under active thyroid in the past. Also wondering if my aggressive Candida detox caused it? Are ice cold hands and feet a symptom of withdrawal as well. If not will mention that to the doctor too? Thanks for your time and patience. 💐💐

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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I feel like I may have tapered too quickly. I’m trembling all the time and am a mess. Could I go up a bit on my dosage. Don’t know how much longer I can continue this way. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Ignore last post, I think it’s related to what I’m eating. Sorry for outbursts. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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April 7th

5 hrs sleep 

a.m. tense, mind racing, negative thoughts, anxiety, hypersensitivity, dizzy 

2:00 25 ml gravol

7:30 breakfast 

8:00 cold hands dizzy 

9:45 Metamucil 1 tsp

10:00 snack, cold hands 

11:00 snack, ginger pill

p.m. 
1200 lunch rye bread and jam, upset stomach 

2:00 snack

3:30 snack

4:00 supper gaviscon for upset stomach 

8:30 mirtazapine 1.5 ml

10:00 gavison

 

 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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April 8, 2020

Slept 4 1/2 hours

A. M. Tired, tense, cold, trembling, not a good day

730 rice crispy’s, blueberries, milk, ginger pill

745 Metamucil 1 teaspoon

1030 Apple cold hands

P.m. ginger water

12 lunch, eggs, zucchini, red bell pepper, bit of milk and yogurt, cold hands

215 ginger water

4 o’clock sesame seed spread on crackers

Or 30 supper asparagus, liver, watermelon

6 o’clock snack yoghurt, allergy reaction Itchy neck and face

815, mirtazapine  1.5 ML

1015 bedtime

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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@manymoretodaysCould I taper a little again? 

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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April 9, 2020

april 8 took gravol 25 mg @ bedtime 

sleep approximately 5 1/2 hrs sleep

a.m. tense, tired, cortisol surge every morning, heart racing, negative thoughts, restless, emotional 

8:00 breakfast

9:30 Metamucil, dizzy, tight muscles in back of legs,

9:15 watermelon 

10:00 snack no appetite 

p.m. hot and cold, drank too much water, 

12:00 lunch 75 mg vitamin C

1:30 Tylenol 500 mg headache 

2:00 vitamin C 75 mg

5:00 supper 

6:00 black beans

8:30 mirtazapine 1.5 ml

10:00 bedtime, gravol 25 mg.

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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How are you doing Pens?

On 4/9/2020 at 4:37 PM, Pens said:

@manymoretodaysCould I taper a little again? 

 

You went down and then right back up again the last time it appears.......from your signature.

How are you feeling?  I see some sleep, is it decent sleep?  5 and 1/2 hours!!!!  Woohoo, and hallelujahs, eh?

 

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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15 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

How are you doing Pens?

 

You went down and then right back up again the last time it appears.......from your signature.

How are you feeling?  I see some sleep, is it decent sleep?  5 and 1/2 hours!!!!  Woohoo, and hallelujahs, eh?

 

Hi manymoretodays, I didn’t want to just fade away without letting you know that I went back on an antidepressant. I just couldn’t do the taper. It sure wasn’t for lack of good advice or support from others and especially yourself. I wish you and the others on this website the best and keep safe. Thanks again and God Bless 💐💐

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Hi Pens,

And thank you for the update.  Please return, if/when you might decide to taper again.

And use your new tools too, read up on your drug.  Drugs.com is a good place to start, even wikipedia has some really great stuff.

 

And best to you.  Wish you the best as well.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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tapering down on pregabalin / Lyrica

 

Hi, at present I am trying to taper on pre-Gabalin because I am suffering from Unpleasant side effects. I’m looking for support and information on the best way To do that. My doctor prescribe this for me to help with my anxiety and depression. It’s not helping.

 

sertraline 100 mg

December 9, 2020, tapering pregabolin 50 mg 8:00 a.m., 10 ml. 2:00 p.m. 50 mg 9:00 p.m. 

taking magnesium and omega

 

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Hello and welcome back.

 

Once your accounts are merged please update your drug signature will all changes.  Thank you.

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature

 

 

Q:  What side effects appeared after commencing pregabalin?

 

Q:  When did you start the sertraline?

 

You might be able to do a quick taper off the pregabalin.  You could try reducing by 1/4 for 3-7 days and see how that goes and then if it is okay reduce by another 1/4.  But if you get withdrawal symptoms you would need to hold and then you might try only reducing by 1/8.

 

Tips for tapering off Lyrica (pregabalin)

 

Once we have more information about your drug history we will be better able to help you.  If you have been trying to get off other drugs then your "depression" might be a withdrawal symptom.

 

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 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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Hi manymoretodays I have come back. The doctor put me on pregabolin for depression to help me get through my taper unfortunately now I’m trying to come off the pre-Gabalin taking a much slower taper. Not sure how to send in daily reports though. Could you help. Hoping you’re safe I’ve been praying for our friends in America. Thank you

 

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/17/2020 at 6:43 PM, ChessieCat said:

Hello and welcome back.

 

Once your accounts are merged please update your drug signature will all changes.  Thank you.

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature

 

 

Q:  What side effects appeared after commencing pregabalin?

 

Q:  When did you start the sertraline?

 

You might be able to do a quick taper off the pregabalin.  You could try reducing by 1/4 for 3-7 days and see how that goes and then if it is okay reduce by another 1/4.  But if you get withdrawal symptoms you would need to hold and then you might try only reducing by 1/8.

 

Tips for tapering off Lyrica (pregabalin)

 

Once we have more information about your drug history we will be better able to help you.  If you have been trying to get off other drugs then your "depression" might be a withdrawal symptom.

 

Hi, i’m sorry I did see your note about the link where I can report my daily reports but I haven’t been able to find it again I found this so I’m hoping this is the right spot.

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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December 18, 2020

8 AM pregabolin 50 mg, feeling good, calcium magnesium vitamin D, zinc combination, omega

2 PM for Pregabolin 10 ml

3 PM Omega, Cal/mag

7 PM sertraline 50 mg

8 PM reactin ,  itchy skin

9 PM per gallon 50 mg (stupid auto correct see post below)

Should be:

9:00 p.m. pregabolin 50 mg. 

Tell asleep around 1:30 am Having a hard time sleeping

 

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May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Yes this is the right place.

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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53 minutes ago, Pens said:

9 PM per gallon 50 mg

 

Did auto correct change this?

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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2 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Did auto correct change this?

It should read 9:00 p.m. pregabolin 50 mg. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Dec. 19, 2029 didn’t get much sleep, trembling hands and jaw, tense, weak

8:00 a.m. pregabolin 50 mg, omega and cal/mag/D and zinc

1:20 B12 1000

2:00 pregabolin 10 ml

5:00 hands numb

10:30 Reactin. Burning in mouth and throat, scalp itchy

Gravol 50 mg for sleep, forgot to include this yesterday

bedtime 12:30 p.m.

 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Hi Pens, and welcome back,

 

And hey, when and how did you come off your mirtazapine?

Can you add that to your signature?  Just go to AccountsSettings/signature

to update further.  Don't forget to hit the SAVE button when you are donw.

 

And great, as Ccat got you the link on tapering pregablin/Lyrica above.  Do have a good read through, and I will review as well.

 

Are you feeling well enough for tapering now?

 

And okay, for daily notes:

Keep daily notes of drug schedule and symptoms to track patterns and progress

the sample note is in the quote in the first post, so you do need to hit the arrow to pull that down and see it

 

And Pens, if you want to get any calming from the magnesium, then you need to split it away from the Calcium, by at least 2 hours, otherwise they cancel each other out.  Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

You might want to look into getting single ingredient supplements.

 

1 hour ago, Pens said:

Dec. 19, 2029 didn’t get much sleep, trembling hands and jaw, tense, weak

8:00 a.m. pregabolin 50 mg, omega and cal/mag/D and zinc

1:20 B12 1000

2:00 pregabolin 10 ml

5:00 hands numb

10:30 Reactin. Burning in mouth and throat, scalp itchy

Gravol 50 mg for sleep, forgot to include this yesterday

bedtime 12:30 p.m.

 

So you take 50 mg of Pregablin at 8 am.

And then what does 10 mL stand for in mg(milligrams or the dose)?

And are you taking a liquid form of Pregablin?

 

Welcome back Pens, and back around as soon as I can, hopefully later today.  Ho, ho, ho.......holly jolly Christmas season......I've been running circles most days......good stuff though, and happy.

 

Oh, I hope you are okay as well.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

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Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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55 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi Pens, and welcome back,

 

And hey, when and how did you come off your mirtazapine?

Can you add that to your signature?  Just go to AccountsSettings/signature

to update further.  Don't forget to hit the SAVE button when you are donw.

 

And great, as Ccat got you the link on tapering pregablin/Lyrica above.  Do have a good read through, and I will review as well.

 

Are you feeling well enough for tapering now?

 

And okay, for daily notes:

Keep daily notes of drug schedule and symptoms to track patterns and progress

the sample note is in the quote in the first post, so you do need to hit the arrow to pull that down and see it

 

And Pens, if you want to get any calming from the magnesium, then you need to split it away from the Calcium, by at least 2 hours, otherwise they cancel each other out.  Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

You might want to look into getting single ingredient supplements.

 

 

So you take 50 mg of Pregablin at 8 am.

And then what does 10 mL stand for in mg(milligrams or the dose)?

And are you taking a liquid form of Pregablin?

 

Welcome back Pens, and back around as soon as I can, hopefully later today.  Ho, ho, ho.......holly jolly Christmas season......I've been running circles most days......good stuff though, and happy.

 

Oh, I hope you are okay as well.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

I am tapering the pregabolin. Presently at 110 mg. 50 mg pill in the morning, 10 ml. Liquid afternoon and 50 mg pill at 9:00 p.m. doctor praised lyrica as a wonder drug for depression. Ugh! 

thanks for advice on magnesium. Thanks for your support. Glad your ok, missed you. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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December 20, 2020

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, got some sleep tremors in hands and jaw and sometimes legs all day, tense

10:45 AM vitamin D, omega, feeling cold feeling a bit better, more energy, breathing better

2 PM pre-Gabalin 10 mil., omega

4:50 PM cold feet

6 PM Gas-X burning sensation in mouth and throat muscles rigid

7 PM sertraline 50 mg, numb hands, itchy face and scalp

8 PM magnesium

9 PM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, skin rash, sore throat, 1/2 tsp. baking soda for upset stomach feeling better

11 PM bedtime, Gravol 50 mg

 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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Hi sweetie,

Oh so great Pens, that you are doing the notes already.

So now I see that you tried some escitalopram first in ?April or May, after stopping the mirtazapine completely.

If you get a chance, would you scroll on back and see what that dose was of mirtazapine was when you jumped off?

 

And then, what dose did you go with for the escitalopram?  And for how long. 

It didn't help you state.  Did you have any symptoms, or increased symptoms while on it?

 

And then did the doctor have you start both the sertraline and pregablin at the same time?

Have you always been taking the pregablin split into the 3 doses, at 8 am, 2 pm, and then 9 pm?

And they why are you just ? tapering the middle dose, or why is that dose so small?  Is the 10 mL equivalent to 10 mg?

 

What untoward effects are you seeing with the pregablin now, and then since you started it?

 

Here's what I found on pregablin:  https://www.rxlist.com/consumer_pregabalin_lyrica/drugs-condition.htm

And then from Drugs.com:  https://www.drugs.com/lyrica.html

3 hours ago, Pens said:

10:45 AM vitamin D, omega, feeling cold feeling a bit better, more energy, breathing better

 

3 hours ago, Pens said:

6 PM Gas-X burning sensation in mouth and throat muscles rigid

 

Have you needed to use anything for the breathing difficulties?

"Throat muscles rigid"- have you reported symptoms like this to your prescribing doctor?

 

And oh darn, looks like some nights of okay sleep and then others not so much.

 

A lot of questions for you today.  I think it will help, to sort things out again now

 

And hope, hoping you are staying safe, as well as feeling a bit of holiday light.  This pandemic has been such an upheaval and scary as well. 

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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On 12/21/2020 at 9:07 AM, Pens said:

December 20, 2020

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, got some sleep tremors in hands and jaw and sometimes legs all day, tense

10:45 AM vitamin D, omega, feeling cold feeling a bit better, more energy, breathing better

2 PM pre-Gabalin 10 mil., omega

4:50 PM cold feet

6 PM Gas-X burning sensation in mouth and throat muscles rigid

7 PM sertraline 50 mg, numb hands, itchy face and scalp

8 PM magnesium

9 PM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, skin rash, sore throat, 1/2 tsp. baking soda for upset stomach feeling better

11 PM bedtime, Gravol 50 mg

 

December 21, 2020

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, omega, vitamin D 1000, brain fog all day

1130 vitamin B 12

1230 probiotic still tremors eyes focussing

2 PM for Gabalin 10 ML tapering from 50 mg

4 PM feel a bit better

5 PM be 50 complex, hands and feet warm

7 PM sertraline 50 mg

9 PM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, magnesium,

 stomach hurts

1030 I have a 50 mg

1:30 AM bedtime, snacked a lot

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

 

 

On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

And then did the doctor have you start both the sertraline and pregablin at the same time?

Yes, pregabolin 125 mg and sertraline 50 mg

 

On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

Have you always been taking the pregablin split into the 3 doses, at 8 am, 2 pm, and then 9 pm?

And they why are you just ? tapering the middle dose, or why is that dose so small?  Is the 10 mL equivalent to 10 mg?

No started.at one dose of 75 mg to two doses of 75 mg to 50 mg x 3. I didn’t know where to start tapering so started at middle dose and have Got it down to 10 ml., symptoms are groggy, weak, tremors in hands and legs. A rash at higher doses. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

Have you needed to use anything for the breathing difficulties?

No

 

On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

Throat muscles rigid"- have you reported symptoms like this to your prescribing doctor?

I think this is because I’m tense from the tremors. Dr. Likes to quit antis quickly and try something new.  As you can tell from my history.  I’m afraid he will discontinue my prescription if I tell him I’m tapering off the pre-Gabalin down in dosage.I’m honestly not really sure what I’m doing I’m hoping my going down to 100 mg it will help with some of my symptoms, was hoping to gain some knowledge And take it one day at a time. I finally started eating and putting on a little weight.  😊

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/21/2020 at 12:16 PM, manymoretodays said:

Hi sweetie,

Oh so great Pens, that you are doing the notes already.

So now I see that you tried some escitalopram first in ?April or May, after stopping the mirtazapine completely.

If you get a chance, would you scroll on back and see what that dose was of mirtazapine was when you jumped off?

 

And then, what dose did you go with for the escitalopram?  And for how long. 

It didn't help you state.  Did you have any symptoms, or increased symptoms while on it?

 

And then did the doctor have you start both the sertraline and pregablin at the same time?

Have you always been taking the pregablin split into the 3 doses, at 8 am, 2 pm, and then 9 pm?

And they why are you just ? tapering the middle dose, or why is that dose so small?  Is the 10 mL equivalent to 10 mg?

 

What untoward effects are you seeing with the pregablin now, and then since you started it?

 

Here's what I found on pregablin:  https://www.rxlist.com/consumer_pregabalin_lyrica/drugs-condition.htm

And then from Drugs.com:  https://www.drugs.com/lyrica.html

 

 

Have you needed to use anything for the breathing difficulties?

"Throat muscles rigid"- have you reported symptoms like this to your prescribing doctor?

 

And oh darn, looks like some nights of okay sleep and then others not so much.

 

A lot of questions for you today.  I think it will help, to sort things out again now

 

And hope, hoping you are staying safe, as well as feeling a bit of holiday light.  This pandemic has been such an upheaval and scary as well. 

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

Made some changes in signature , sorry I’m not thinking real clear so answers might be a bit confusing.

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/22/2020 at 5:35 PM, Pens said:

 

Yes, pregabolin 125 mg and sertraline 50 mg

 

No started.at one dose of 75 mg to two doses of 75 mg to 50 mg x 3. I didn’t know where to start tapering so started at middle dose and have Got it down to 10 ml., symptoms are groggy, weak, tremors in hands and legs. A rash at higher doses. 

 

Hi Pens,

When did the tremor start?

 

With the pregabalin, when did you last taper?

Generally, with doses taken more than once a day, we'll have you taper the 10% off each dose.  The way that you've done it, it looks like you might have just started tapering, the mid day dose, right after splitting the dose into 3, and also as soon as you had increased it.  And I'm glad you are trying to get to a lower dose though.  Then, I just posted drug interactions down at the bottom of this post too.

 

And obviously, this is not a AD.  And man, I get miffed when prescribers' give out weird information like that.

 

How is your sleep?  Did you sleep from 1:30 am to 8 am, in the last note you posted?  Are evenings and nights still more tolerable for you, as far as symptoms go?

 

As it, pregabalin, has a 6 hour half life, I'm wondering though, if you might feel better taking it, spaced out 3 times each day, with the doses the same.

Tips for tapering pregabalin(Lyrica)

 

And we might be able to shift your present doses a bit, so that they are all equal.

 

Good job, Notes!

 

Keep those coming, and let me confer too, as to how to move forward with your taper of pregabalin now.

 

Merry Christmas Pens!  Or Happy Holidays.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

Drug Interaction Report, Drugs.com, Pregabalin and Sertraline

Edited by manymoretodays
spelling, drug interactions

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Hello, Pens.

 

What do you mean by "tremors"? How often do you get itchy after you take sertraline? What are the adverse effects you feel from pregabalin?

 

Did you discuss your adverse reactions with the doctor who prescribed these drugs?

 

Here is our topic Tips for tapering off Lyrica (pregabalin)

 

 

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On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

When did the tremor start?

Back in May or before when I was taking sertraline 50 mg and pregabolin 100 mg.

 

On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

ith the pregabalin, when did you last taper?

Three weeks ago

 

On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

The way that you've done it, it looks like you might have just started tapering, the mid day dose, right after splitting the dose into 3, and also as soon as you had increased it. 

Yes, what a mess. I’m at morning 50 mg afternoon 10 mg and evening 50 mg. I was going to try and get rid of the afternoon dose.

 

On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

Are evenings and nights still more tolerable for you, as far as symptoms go?

 

On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

Not too bad, I think I must be getting some

 

On 12/24/2020 at 1:33 PM, manymoretodays said:

we might be able to shift your present doses a bit, so that they are all equal.

 

Could you tell me how and when? Merry Christmas to you too!

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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19 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Hello, Pens.

 

What do you mean by "tremors"? How often do you get itchy after you take sertraline? What are the adverse effects you feel from pregabalin?

 

Did you discuss your adverse reactions with the doctor who prescribed these drugs?

 

Here is our topic Tips for tapering off Lyrica (pregabalin)

 

 

I’m not as itchy now since I started tapering pregabolin three weeks ago. Pregabolin symptoms tremors, dizzy, depression at times, blurry vision, speech problems shallow breathing (sometimes). Hair loss, itchy scalp and sometimes neck and chest, tired and confused, unsteady gait, dry skin. Some of these may be from the sertraline as well. If I tell my Dr. He will probably put me on something else or tell me to stop it in a week or two. 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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On 12/22/2020 at 7:10 PM, Pens said:

December 21, 2020

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, omega, vitamin D 1000, brain fog all day

1130 vitamin B 12

1230 probiotic still tremors eyes focussing

2 PM for Gabalin 10 ML tapering from 50 mg

4 PM feel a bit better

5 PM be 50 complex, hands and feet warm

7 PM sertraline 50 mg

9 PM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, magnesium,

 stomach hurts

1030 I have a 50 mg

1:30 AM bedtime, snacked a lot


December 22, 2020 

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg, the 50 complex, vitamin D, Omega, more alert dizzy, weak, drummer is bad

2 PM pre-Gabalin 10 ml.

3 PM magnesium in hot water, half a teaspoon of baking soda for stomach problems, this helps, omega and vitamin D

7 PM sertraline 50 mg, rigid, jittery and on edge

8:45 PM reacting for itchy skin

9 PM pre gasoline 50 mg, Feeling a bit better

10:15 PM numb hands cold, tremors let up a bit, gravel 50 mg

 

December 23, 2020

headache, Tylenol 500, time is not as bad today a window

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg

8:30 AM vitamin D and omega

12:45 PM the B50 complex

2 PM  pregabolin 10 ml.

4 PM vitamin D

7 PM sertraline 50 mg, itchy all over

8:15 PM reacting

1030 magnesium, gravol 50 mg

 

December 24, 2020

6:45 AM omega, vitamin D, woke up with hip pain 4 1/2 hours sleep

8 AM pre-Gabalin 50 mg

12:45 PM tired, tremors, B50 complex, dizzy

2 PM pregabolin 10 mg solution kept fridge, 

530 magnesium biglycinate 200, 

feeling cold

7 PM  Sertraline 50 mg

9 PM pregabolin 50 mg

1 PM, ate a lot of carbohydrates and sugar. Very bad day next day

gravol 50 mg. 

 

 

 

 

May 2020,  sertraline 100 mg, pregabalin 150 mg.Dec 2020 pre-Gabalin 110 mg,

Sept-Oct, 2020, Sertraline 50 mg and pregabalin 100 mg. Oct. 10/21 currently tapering sertraline @ 42.8 mg water method @ 5% pregabalin @ 51.6 mg.

 

 

 

 


 

 

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