alexjuice Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I spend too much time reading stuff online about health and nutrition. It seems the market must want, based on the supply, information about reducing risk of heart attack and stroke. They also are quite interested in losing weight, building muscle, sexual performance, baldness, fertility, diabetes, anti-aging and boosting cognitive function. I guess I understand why people are concerned about all the stuff on line 2. Thatt said... Im not a healthy person, but even if I was a healthy person, I just don't think I'd care nearly so much about heart attacks and strokes. The 2nd line is quality of life stuff. Worrying about not having a stroke or whatever... I mean, people are free to worry and be preventitive about whatever they have the resources to worry about. And sure, I know a lot of folks, my dad for sure, would like to live indefinitely or, failing that, at least into the triple digits in perfect health. I have no desire to live to be 110. I would like to have a better qualit of life for a period, but I don't have grander health ambitions. And of the all the ways I might die, stroke and heart attack are probably in most top 5 most desired causes. I'd actually most like to die in a life exterminating collision between the planet and an interstellar object like an asteroid as I've always been curious about how humankind would expire. I feel like my life on earth is part of a movie and I am not going to see the end of it. It'd be nice to live to see our finale as a species. Anyway, if anyone knows how to avoid stroke or heart attack, there are many posts, articles and videos for education. Anyway, this in my opinion represents a weird slice of self delusion among humanity -- that if we make the right choices we can avoid suffering, illness, and death. I am advantaged in that I don't care about death... I certaintly prefer it to the other inevitability: taxes. People. What is the deal with people? Also, while I'm feeling twitchy... I miss Jerry Seinfeld. "Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me. Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there Everybody's got to move somewhere Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow Things should start to get interesting right about now." - Zimmerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 4, 2012 Administrator Share Posted May 4, 2012 I agree. Being carried off quickly by a stroke or heart attack sounds ideal to me. But often they don't kill ya, and then you have to deal with the injury. Ugggh. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjuice Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yea. Which reminds of another often-quoted, not always accurate maxim, Nietzsche's quote, "whatever doesn't kill you...makes you stronger." Hmmm. Except heart attacks, strokes. And amputations, vision loss, and most pointedly, IMO, full blown AIDS which not only doesn't kill you.... Actually it makes you so much weaker that otherwise easytodefeat pathogens and diseases can infect and kill you and rather easily at that. Luckily, we all have lots left to accomplish and an advantage, yes i think so, in our improved insight into medical establishment and superior understanding of risk management in the oversight of our own health care from now on out. Alex "Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me. Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there Everybody's got to move somewhere Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow Things should start to get interesting right about now." - Zimmerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meistersinger Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yea. Which reminds of another often-quoted, not always accurate maxim, Nietzsche's quote, "whatever doesn't kill you...makes you stronger." Hmmm. Except heart attacks, strokes. And amputations, vision loss, and most pointedly, IMO, full blown AIDS which not only doesn't kill you.... Actually it makes you so much weaker that otherwise easytodefeat pathogens and diseases can infect and kill you and rather easily at that. Luckily, we all have lots left to accomplish and an advantage, yes i think so, in our improved insight into medical establishment and superior understanding of risk management in the oversight of our own health care from now on out. Alex This is the way the World shall end, not with a bang, but a whimper. --The Love Song of J. Alfred Profrock T. S. Eliot History: 1995--Prozac--Quit CT by GP 1995--Effexor--Quit per my GP 1996--Amitriphene--Quit CT when changed GP 2005--Citalopram and BusPar. Prescribed when I decompensated in my GP's office. GP referred me to behavior health. Psychiatrist prescibed these drugs. Taken off citalopram in 2011 due to FDA warning. Quit Buspar during transition to viibryd. Viibryd--2011 to present. Had a severe reaction in March 2012. Advised both GP and Psychiatrist I was trying to get off these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Jemima Posted May 5, 2012 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 5, 2012 Anyway, this in my opinion represents a weird slice of self delusion among humanity -- that if we make the right choices we can avoid suffering, illness, and death. I am advantaged in that I don't care about death... I certaintly prefer it to the other inevitability: taxes. I agree, Alex, and I've observed this myself. This attitude accounts for a lot of the excesses of modern medicine. It's my understanding that the bulk of medical expenses in the average person's life are incurred during the last few years as the individual or his/her relatives attempt to ward off death. Good luck, y'all. Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Hanlon's RazorIntroduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1588-introducing-jemima/ Success Story: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6263-success-jemima-survives-lexapro-and-dr-dickhead-too/Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 5, 2012 Administrator Share Posted May 5, 2012 "superior understanding of risk management" -- LOL!!! This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjuice Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm glad you liked that one, Alto. :-) "Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me. Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there Everybody's got to move somewhere Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow Things should start to get interesting right about now." - Zimmerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarannamated Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Agree 100%, Alex. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjuice Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Barb I 100% love you and hope you are doing well today! Alex "Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me. Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there Everybody's got to move somewhere Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow Things should start to get interesting right about now." - Zimmerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarannamated Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Thanks, Alex. Right backatcha. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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