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@Gridley

 

I have written down how I felt the past week please see below, my symptoms are very distressing at the moment and i am still on 125 mg of sertraline can i confirm this will not take away the citalopram withdrawls?

Thursday 11th March

8am. woke fine
09.30 shallow breathing trying to breath, tingling in head - took 125 mg of sertraline
10.45 - cried as I can keep living like this
11am - headache and lots of yawning/ ate breakfast
1.30 - Lunch 
3.30pm - pick up son from school feel a bit better as a distraction
5 p.m. cooked dinner for the children and me
6 p.m. Ate dinner
7.30pm - put the children to bed
10:00 p.m. sleep 

12.30am - son unwell so woke me
1.30am - fell back to sleep 

 

 

Friday 12th March 

09.30 - woke fine, logged on to work and took 125 mg of sertaline
10.00  shallow breathing started
11.00 - breakfast
1pm - logged out of work and went out
was fine all day.
3.30pm - pick up son from school 
was ok from 3.30pm

 

Saturday 13th March

had a good day

 

 

Sunday 14th March 

MOthers day in the UK

another day that i was fine and had a nice day

monday 15th March 

09.30 - took sertraline125mg

09.45 - logged onto work

10.00- shallow breathing and bug crawling sensation on head

11.00- panic set in

12pm - Lunch

3.30pm - pick up son from school and had panic, tingling and air hunger until 8pm

 

Tuesday 16th March

09.30 - woke fine, logged on to work and took 125 mg of sertaline
10.21 - shallow breathing started
11.00 - breakfast
1pm -cried again as i thought i was getting better 

2pm - therapy- felt angry and a bit relived to talk about stuff
3.30pm - pick up son from school 
3.30pm - panic until 6pm

10pm - bed and slept through

 

 

Weds 17th March

09.30 - woke fine, logged on to work and took 125 mg of sertaline
09.45  shallow breathing started again!!!!
cant eat breakfast
12.30- tried to eat lunch a sandwich
13.00 - air hunger again, headache and elastic band feeling around head
3.30pm - pick up son from school
4pm feel better until the evening when go to bed

 

Thrusday 18th March

woke up 9.15 - took 125 mg of sertraline

11.30 - Lunch

Air hunger and panic, with tingling bug crawling feeling has lasted since 10.00 and been crying all day as 16 months in I thought it would be better now.

 

 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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4 hours ago, Deblou46 said:

can i confirm this will not take away the citalopram withdrawls?

Crossovers can help with withdrawal but won't necessarily eliminate symptoms altogether.  These drugs all work differently and also have different side effects.

 

I just did a crossover from Ativan to Valium and have more symptoms on the Valium than when I was on the Ativan.  I'm now tapering the Valium.

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of Feb. 22: 7.6mg

Taper is 90% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, anti-candida, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Thank you I have had bad withdrawals for nearly 18 months now anc you think you will never get better 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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hi

 

please see my story below i am now 3 years in after swapping from Celexa to Sertraline.

 

i was thinking i was leveled and wanted to start tapering off Sertraline, but symptoms have started again, the bug crawling feeling etc I am petrified I am going back wards is this normal after 3 years? will i ever settle so I can come off Sertraline.

Thanks

 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraine

15.10.22 - 3 years since swapped

Edited by manymoretodays
added title after merging to members Introduction

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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Hi Deblou46 and welcome back, @Deblou46

 

I merged your new, recent Introduction post with your pre-existing Introduction.  Just one Introduction topic per member.  Post right here for now.

 

Any changes of note recently, alcohol, recreational drugs, situational occurrences, addition of any other drugs or supplements?

 

Have you decreased your present drug sertraline from the 125 mg dose at all, or missed a dose?

 

When did the symptoms start?  Did you get a period where you found you had no WD(withdrawal symptoms)?

 

And yes, sometimes symptoms will reoccur in a Waves and Windows pattern.  Do you remember?

The Waves and Windows pattern of stabilization

 

Are your symptoms like this?:

Paresthesia: pins and needles, numbness, tingling, burning sensations, aka neuropathy

 

Sorry to hear you are having symptoms of WD again Deblou.  Ugh.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

Edited by manymoretodays

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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Thank you so much for replying to me.

 

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Hi Deblou46 and welcome back, @Deblou46

 

I merged your new, recent Introduction post with your pre-existing Introduction.  Just one Introduction topic per member.  Post right here for now.

 

Any changes of note recently, alcohol, recreational drugs, situational occurrences, addition of any other drugs or supplements? no but i am going through my menopause

 

Have you decreased your present drug sertraline from the 125 mg dose at all, or missed a dose? i did miss a couple of doses could this contribute

 

When did the symptoms start?  Did you get a period where you found you had no WD(withdrawal symptoms)? yes it did, it just came on suddenly and has scared me even though i know what it is.....i just dont want to go back and need reassurance

 

And yes, sometimes symptoms will reoccur in a Waves and Windows pattern.  Do you remember? - i did remember but have had 8 months of a window and it has been 3 years which has scared me? i thought it would be over by now

The Waves and Windows pattern of stabilization

 

Are your symptoms like this?: yes these are all of my symptoms

Paresthesia: pins and needles, numbness, tingling, burning sensations, aka neuropathy

 

Sorry to hear you are having symptoms of WD again Deblou.  Ugh.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by manymoretodays

 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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Hi Deblou46,

Thanks for answering my questions.

44 minutes ago, Deblou46 said:

no but i am going through my menopause

 

This ^ can sometimes throw us off.

Anyone dealing with menopause and withdrawal?

PMS, PMD, and menstrual cycle issues during withdrawal and after

 

With us being in the holiday season now, and since some do get thrown or find this time of year challenging.........you may wish to just HOLD steady now.  And try to manage with any non-drug coping that you can.    Pay attention to when you are not having symptoms and keep records for yourself right now.

 

And then in January......hoping you'll feel ready once again, to begin to taper sertraline.  AND more confident that you can surf the Waves when they happen.

 

Tips for tapering Zoloft(sertraline)

 

I think you will feel a change, or improvement in symptoms soon.  If you spend a lot of time on the computer and mousing.......decrease it.  I get that "feels like my mouse hand is asleep" feeling if I over-do my computer time......especially typing or mousing.

Pay attention to improvements.......wait for them......they'll come.

 

Best, L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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thank you for replying, i just need re assurance it is normal to still have waves 3 years later? is this correct.

 

 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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Yes, it can happen.  A wave 3 years out from your last WD.

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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Thank you I just wanted reassurance that a wave 3 years out as normal  

 

when do I know I have stabelised and can’t start tapering the sertraline I am petrified 

Citalopram 18 years Between 10mg to 40mg 

Tried tapering off 2012 20 mg WD 6 weeks later reinstated

August 2019 tapered down in 2.5 months instructed by psych 40-30mg in one month then 30mg -20mg  October 2019 cross tapered to sertraline one week 25mg sertraline 20mg citalopram then 25mg sertraline  10mg Citalopram 
Nov 2019 start sertraline 50mg 

23rd November start 100mg Sertraline 

2nd July 2020 - Start 125mg Sertraline

03.03.21 - 15 months since swapped

 

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