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I’m not sure this topic is in the right place or if it will be permissible. I know Cold Turkey is never recommended and in many cases frowned upon. Here we are though, many  of us have CTed our drugs or Fast Tracked our taper through no fault of our own. We are often together in the reinstating dilemma because we are over the 3 month recommended period. Do we risk kindling and making our symptoms worse or do we continue with the possible prospect of protracted withdrawal. I acknowledge we are all different in our recovery but it seems to help me if I connect with people in a similar situation. I often search for the Lexapro group and also the Cold Turkey sufferers. I know Cold Turkey is never advisable but sometimes some of us feel trapped  in it. I thought I’d start a topic so we are easy to find each other. Not sure if moderators will agree so I’m just putting it out there to see what people think. Take care everyone we will get through this Kx

 

Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey

Last dose end Dec 2018 

Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for  14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!!  

 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long.

On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx  5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day.

 

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Hi Katy,

I had been taking 20mg Lexapro for about 8 years. About 2 months ago I was having a very bad bout of depression, anxiety etc. and was suggested by my doctor to change to 100mg Sertraline. In early November 2019 I CT'd the Lexapro, waited 24 hours and started taking the Sertraline (doctor's orders). I immediately suffered from extreme brain fog. Over the next 6 weeks the brain fog didn't ease up. I thought the brain fog was due to the Sertraline, so I stopped taking the Sertraline. I wanted to see how my mind and body would function without any medication so I did not reinstate the Lexapro (psychologist recommended this). It has been about 5 weeks since I have stopped taking any medication. My anxiety and depression is ok (I am attending regular therapy to cope here). However, my heavy brain fog is still present, and my general concentration is far lower then what I am accustomed to.

 

How are you coping? Are you going through any WD symptoms yourself?

 

2012– Nov 2019 20mg Escitalophram  

CT Escitalophram  
Nov 2019 - Mid Dec 2019 100mg Sertraline

Fast Taper Sertraline

End of Dec 2019 - Present, Medication free

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Hi @AussieDean,

I am going through withdrawal on a day to day basis. I went off under psychiatrist advice but it was way too quick and I left it too late to reinstate.  Not knowing what the future holds as far as withdrawal,  is my biggest challenge. I take each moment at a time. 

I recently  started seeing a Cousellor weekly which has been a tremendous help. 

 

I listened to a couple of radio programs that I thought was interesting regarding tapering. 

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018703293

 

 

 

If I could turn back the clocks I would not have Cold Turkied I would have maybe followed Mark Horowitz’s idea of tapering Fast taper initially then very slow. 

Thinking of you take care 

Kx

 

 

Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey

Last dose end Dec 2018 

Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for  14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!!  

 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long.

On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx  5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day.

 

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Hi Katy,

 

I am glad seeing a councilor has helped.

Thank you for the podcast link, it was very enlightening.

So you have been off any form of meds for just over a year now?

Are your symptoms progressively getting better? Or do you feel stagnant?

 

I have been reading a lot of forum posts the last few days about going CT, reinstating, and then slow tapering.

I actually took 5mg of lexapro today as I thought maybe it wasn't too late to reinstate, and hopefully it would help in clearing up this brain fog of mine.

However, immediately after taking the 5mg I regretted it. I have made it 3 months so far, and I think my best course of action would be to continue to not take the AD and just wait out this brain fog period (hopefully it does not take years).

Hopefully taking the one off 5mg does not have any ill effects!

 

It would be nice if any admin or other people who have experience here could offer some advice :)

 

Thanks

 

 

2012– Nov 2019 20mg Escitalophram  

CT Escitalophram  
Nov 2019 - Mid Dec 2019 100mg Sertraline

Fast Taper Sertraline

End of Dec 2019 - Present, Medication free

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Hi AussieDean and welcome,

We try to offer advice on individuals threads, or introduction topics.  And encourage members to support members as well.

And as of yet, we don't really have any "hard data" to offer, as far as when to expect symptoms to let up.

 

I don't know if you saw Alto's comment on one of your posts, on another members thread, so am quoting it here:

 

  

On 1/22/2020 at 11:56 PM, Altostrata said:

Okay, please do try fish oil and magnesium and let us know how you're doing. '

 

@AussieDean, of course a mind-body connection is present in everyone and self-generated symptoms are always a possibility. However, having experience weird, unprecedented, unexpected traveling physical pains from withdrawal syndrome myself, and having seen thousands of reports of it on this Web site and elsewhere on the Web, I believe it's usually an authentic withdrawal symptom.

 

There was a time 10 or 15 years ago that withdrawal symptoms were explained away as psychosomatic. We generally give credence to our members' reports of symptoms, but we do encourage them to use mental tools to manage them.

 

I think the worst of my "acute" symptoms let up somewhere around a year out, although it's tough to recall.  And then often symptoms tend to come in the waves and windows pattern.  I don't know........but for me, always keeping the faith and believing that it would get better helped a lot.  And then having the ability to "lighten up" and realize that if not WD, many people are going through many things, everywhere.

 

Having this site though, has been invaluable, for me.  As far as having a place to go, where others "get it", for the most part anyway.  I know that new members often arrive here for all kinds of reasons.  But most here "get it".  I sure wasn't getting healthier or well on my merry go round with medications treatment.  And find where I am at today, much better, much more real, and healthier.  Hope that helps.

 

Do try to keep specific questions around your case, on your introduction page.  I think you appropriately commented here.......on Katy398's topic.  Just a reminder.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. 

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Hi @AussieDean,

I am going through withdrawal on a day to day basis. I went off under psychiatrist advice but it was way too quick and I left it too late to reinstate.  Not knowing what the future holds as far as withdrawal,  is my biggest challenge. I take each moment at a time. 

I recently  started seeing a Cousellor weekly which has been a tremendous help. 

 

I listened to a couple of radio programs that I thought was interesting regarding tapering. 

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018703293

 

 

 

If I could turn back the clocks I would not have Cold Turkied I would have maybe followed Mark Horowitz’s idea of tapering Fast taper initially then very slow. 

How are you feeling today?

Thinking of you take care 

Kx

 

 

Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey

Last dose end Dec 2018 

Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for  14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!!  

 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long.

On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx  5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day.

 

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Hi. I did a fast taper off of multiple drugs simultaneously.  I am curious to see if anyone else did the same and what the results were. I am in a pretty good place for now but know things could turn any day. So I am optimistically cautious at this point.  

Paxil  07/1997 - 10/1998 Quit CT  

Neurontin, topamax, trazadone,  ssri AD (don't remember which one) 12/1998 - 06/1999 CT everything

Eflexor Xanax  04/2000 -08/2000 CT  ***01/2008-05/2013 on/off lexapro, lamictalseroquelsaphris, pristiq  Start/Stop CT at intervals 

Zoloft 200 mg 07/2013  WD 04/3/20 - 04/8/20 Quit

Seroquel 800 mg 07/2013 2013 *400 mg 07/2019  *** WD 04/15/2020 - 06/19/20 Quit

Ambien 10 mg 07/2013  WD 5 mg 04/29/2020, 2.5 mg 12/24/20, 1.66 mg 01/21/2021, 1.25 mg 02/16/2021 *** 02/22/2021 Quit

Xanax  2 mg prn 07/2013 - 04/23/20 Quit CT

Lamictal 150 mg 07/2013 WD 05/06/20 -06/11/2020 Quit

Propranolol 03/21/2020 - 04/20/2020 Quit CT

Hydroxyzine  12/14/2020 - 12/27/20 Quit

Allegra 24 hr 01/11/21 Flonase Nasal Spray 01/11/21

Magnesium Glycinate 100mg x3 daily D3 5000iu daily 

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I CT'ed Prozac + Abilify simultaneously and after I CT'ed I felt so bad and bizarre.I hoped that it would subside on its own but it got worse day by day.It's been 2 years now and I feel so bad.My problems are severe and it looks like they're permanent.

2012 - 2016

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had my first mania attack.)

2016 - 2017

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had my second mania attack.)

October 2017 - January 2018

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had a movement problem)

March 2018 - April 2018

Bupropion (150 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (My movement problems were resolved but I became angrier than usual while I was using them)

April 2018 - July 2018

Prozac (20 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After I CT'ed because of different problems which were related to my vision and finger jerks my movement problem came back.)

September 2020 - ...

I'm on Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (2.5 mg).

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@madmert9 Oh no I am so sorry I can not imagine what you are going through. I was reading about tardive dyskinesia yesterday and hoping that I don't get it.  I had CT'd before but never after have being on the drugs for 7 years straight. I have never had the physical problems for long periods but I have had mental anxiety and strong long lasting intrusive thought patterns of doom and dread.  In the past I didn't know my mental problems were a result of WD so I kept getting back on the drugs. Now I know more of what to expect and I confess that it scares me.  Madmert9 I so hope that your condition gets better.  Apparently going the CT route is not wise and I hope others find this out before starting their WD process.  

Paxil  07/1997 - 10/1998 Quit CT  

Neurontin, topamax, trazadone,  ssri AD (don't remember which one) 12/1998 - 06/1999 CT everything

Eflexor Xanax  04/2000 -08/2000 CT  ***01/2008-05/2013 on/off lexapro, lamictalseroquelsaphris, pristiq  Start/Stop CT at intervals 

Zoloft 200 mg 07/2013  WD 04/3/20 - 04/8/20 Quit

Seroquel 800 mg 07/2013 2013 *400 mg 07/2019  *** WD 04/15/2020 - 06/19/20 Quit

Ambien 10 mg 07/2013  WD 5 mg 04/29/2020, 2.5 mg 12/24/20, 1.66 mg 01/21/2021, 1.25 mg 02/16/2021 *** 02/22/2021 Quit

Xanax  2 mg prn 07/2013 - 04/23/20 Quit CT

Lamictal 150 mg 07/2013 WD 05/06/20 -06/11/2020 Quit

Propranolol 03/21/2020 - 04/20/2020 Quit CT

Hydroxyzine  12/14/2020 - 12/27/20 Quit

Allegra 24 hr 01/11/21 Flonase Nasal Spray 01/11/21

Magnesium Glycinate 100mg x3 daily D3 5000iu daily 

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3 hours ago, madmert9 said:

It's been 2 years now and I feel so bad.

 

Two years is only a short time.  Recovery can sometimes be frustratingly slow and take a long time.

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Thanks for your replies about my condition.I've been using Zoloft 50 mg + Abilify 2.5 mg for 2 weeks.It's impossible for me to deal with CT and all of the suffering.I'm gonna use this combination for a while (maximum 3 months) and gonna wait for a miracle.It's so hard to use them when I'm completely against these drugs.But I lost my hope and I don't wanna wait anymore without doing anything.

2012 - 2016

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had my first mania attack.)

2016 - 2017

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had my second mania attack.)

October 2017 - January 2018

Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After CT I had a movement problem)

March 2018 - April 2018

Bupropion (150 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (My movement problems were resolved but I became angrier than usual while I was using them)

April 2018 - July 2018

Prozac (20 mg) + Aripiprazole (5 mg) (Both CT) (After I CT'ed because of different problems which were related to my vision and finger jerks my movement problem came back.)

September 2020 - ...

I'm on Sertraline (50 mg) + Aripiprazole (2.5 mg).

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@madmert9 I hope you start feeling better.

Paxil  07/1997 - 10/1998 Quit CT  

Neurontin, topamax, trazadone,  ssri AD (don't remember which one) 12/1998 - 06/1999 CT everything

Eflexor Xanax  04/2000 -08/2000 CT  ***01/2008-05/2013 on/off lexapro, lamictalseroquelsaphris, pristiq  Start/Stop CT at intervals 

Zoloft 200 mg 07/2013  WD 04/3/20 - 04/8/20 Quit

Seroquel 800 mg 07/2013 2013 *400 mg 07/2019  *** WD 04/15/2020 - 06/19/20 Quit

Ambien 10 mg 07/2013  WD 5 mg 04/29/2020, 2.5 mg 12/24/20, 1.66 mg 01/21/2021, 1.25 mg 02/16/2021 *** 02/22/2021 Quit

Xanax  2 mg prn 07/2013 - 04/23/20 Quit CT

Lamictal 150 mg 07/2013 WD 05/06/20 -06/11/2020 Quit

Propranolol 03/21/2020 - 04/20/2020 Quit CT

Hydroxyzine  12/14/2020 - 12/27/20 Quit

Allegra 24 hr 01/11/21 Flonase Nasal Spray 01/11/21

Magnesium Glycinate 100mg x3 daily D3 5000iu daily 

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This is a really good link for all the Cold Turkey members. 🙂

 

Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey

Last dose end Dec 2018 

Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for  14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!!  

 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long.

On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx  5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day.

 

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