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WASHINGTON — In what could prove to be one of their most far-reaching decisions, psychiatrists and other specialists who are rewriting the manual that serves as the nation’s arbiter of mental illness have agreed to revise the definition of addiction, which could result in millions more people being diagnosed as addicts and pose huge consequences for health insurers and taxpayers." (emphasis mine)

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/12/us/dsm-revisions-may-sharply-increase-addiction-diagnoses.html?src=me&ref=general

 

"Behavioral addiction, not otherwise specified"...Oh, PUH-LEEZE!!! This reminds me of the catch-all diagnosis that was in vogue in my therapist days - chronic undifferentiated schizophrenia. Say what? :wacko:

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Hanlon's Razor


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Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers.

 

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I say, the drugs should be available from vending machines.

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"We can treat them earlier," said Dr. Charles P. O'Brien, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania and the head of the group of researchers devising the manual's new addiction standards. "And we can stop them from getting to the point where they're going to need really expensive stuff like liver transplants."

 

No doubt utilizing SS/NRIs, APs, and whatever psychotropics are on the horizon. Also throwing more people into high risk insurance categories with chronic, lifelong diagnoses or treatments that stay in med record.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Includes internet addiction.

 

""No doubt utilizing SS/NRIs, APs, and whatever psychotropics are on the horizon. Also throwing more people into high risk insurance categories with chronic, lifelong diagnoses or treatments that stay in med record.""

 

And how about the people who need liver transplants thanks to psych meds.

 

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Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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And then psych meds for 'depression' due to liver failure...

This game could go on for a loooong time...

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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I say, the drugs should be available from vending machines.

 

Now Alto, just think of all those psychiatrists who'd have to lower their standard of living and find honest work. It's enough to make a person weep. :rolleyes:

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Hanlon's Razor


Introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1588-introducing-jemima/

 

Success Story: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6263-success-jemima-survives-lexapro-and-dr-dickhead-too/

Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers.

 

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Per your request, Alto:

http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57393703&feed_id=5&videofeed=41

 

FDA mulls bringing popular prescription drugs over-the-counter

March 08, 2012 by CBS News

 

"The new industry-backed proposal is driven in part by a wave of computer technology, including touch-screen kiosks found in pharmacies, designed to help patients self-diagnose common diseases. Drugmakers could use electronic questionnaires, diagnostic devices like blood pressure monitors and other computer-assisted technology to guide patients. In some cases, patients would still need to see a doctor to obtain an initial prescription before getting over-the-counter refills. In other cases, patients would need to speak with a pharmacist but would not need a prescription to get medication. The agency also says decreasing doctor visits could be beneficial. "Eliminating or reducing the number of routine visits could free up prescribers to spend time with more seriously ill patients, reduce the burdens on the already overburdened health care system and reduce health care costs," the agency states in recent federal notice about the proposal."

 

And special part Jemima will love:

"Why haven't statins, which are taken by millions of Americans, been cleared for over-the-counter sales? 'We've had several applications already to switch statins to over the counter, and they have failed because consumers can't determine their lipid status,' Janet Woodcock, head of the FDA's drugs center, told Reuters."

 

Less for insurance to cover.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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So, one can be addicted to gambling or shopping or the internet, but not to their antidepressant? The reasoning there makes my head hurt!

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/18/

CurrentSertraline: 0.08mg / Armour Thyroid

 

 

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The word "addiction" is used awfully loosely these days, and I don't like it one bit. I was considered an addictions specialist during most of my years as a psychotherapist and in my mind, addiction means that there are real, physiological symptoms when a substance is withdrawn. Just getting bored and antsy when the TV doesn't work or the high-speed internet connection is down or the malls are closed or a sexual partner isn't handy doesn't qualify. Those are habits - which may or may not cause problems - but they are not addictions.

 

As for OTC statins, I would vote a resounding NO. No one knows what a healthy cholesterol level is for any given individual and the idea that statins are helpful may very well be bogus. A great deal more independent research is needed on this front, and it's my opinion that the typical American diet of junk and processed foods is responsible for the majority of health problems, whether diabetes, heart attacks, high blood pressure or what have you. Sitting in front of a TV four hours a day (the average for many people) instead of getting some exercise or interacting with family and friends also contributes to poor physical and mental health.

 

I do think that antidepressants should be classified as addictive substances. The heroin addicts I used to counsel described something very much like the withdrawal many of us have experienced, except that when they got through it, there were no lasting effects except those that came from poor health habits, such as foregoing food to buy drugs. With antidepressants, there can be far more serious and lasting problems.

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Hanlon's Razor


Introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1588-introducing-jemima/

 

Success Story: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6263-success-jemima-survives-lexapro-and-dr-dickhead-too/

Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers.

 

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