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Melissa03

What is 'normal' symptom appearance after a drop and what could be sign to slow down ? What do you suggest me to do next ?I wanted to see at what rate I can taper and I am thinking to switch definitely to Brass monkey slide. Thank you ❤️


20 mg seroxat from december 2012,several failed attempts to quit.

10 mg march 2019

20 mg september 2019

tapered 20 mg till end of november 2019

13 february 2020 crushed

1 March reinstated 10 mg seroxat

 

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brassmonkey

I wrote this in answer to your PM and want to post it here so you have a good record.

 

If the 10% every four weeks was a test, then we now know that it is too much too fast. The 10% itself was probably okay because of the low symptoms for the first two reductions. But the four weeks didn't leave enough time for all the symptoms to resolve before the new batch showed up.  Even if you didn't feel  the symptoms they are there in the background and need to settle before the next drop. For speed and lack of symptoms the standard Brassmonkey Slide of 2.5%  week for four weeks and an additional two week hold is a great option.

 

The symptoms you are getting right now are pretty standard and should resolve in a few weeks. I wouldn't try another reduction until they do.

 


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Melissa03

Thank you so much for your answer and advice. Things are rough again today , so definitely when it settles I will try your method. 


20 mg seroxat from december 2012,several failed attempts to quit.

10 mg march 2019

20 mg september 2019

tapered 20 mg till end of november 2019

13 february 2020 crushed

1 March reinstated 10 mg seroxat

 

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Colonial

 

I'm pretty much like you Melissa, I can make a drop 2 or MAYBE 3 in a row every month and then it catches up with Me.

Personally I find I do better making drops LESS often over all.

I just do NOT do as well destabilizing my brain chemistry EVERY MONTH, Regardless how little it seems I'm dropping.

I think that may be true for others as well, the symptoms being part of not just how much your dropping but how often You change the level.

 

Watching both my own progress and others, it seems as if we all have a limit of what we can drop in any 3 categories:

In a month, how much we can cumulatively drop in 6 months, and how much we can drop in any given 12 month period.

And those cumulatives get "lower" the further out we expand, which is why WD takes so long.

It's more than just that your lowering the dosage cut, their comes a point the brain needs more time and it can only handle so much per block of time.

Maybe the Brassmonkey slide scale would work better!

 

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 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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Melissa03

Do you know about propranolol is it addictive? About sleeping issues what about antihistamines,are they addictive ? Can these two drugs be used occasionally when needed ? I am looking for alternatives for benzos since I would like to stay away from them.


20 mg seroxat from december 2012,several failed attempts to quit.

10 mg march 2019

20 mg september 2019

tapered 20 mg till end of november 2019

13 february 2020 crushed

1 March reinstated 10 mg seroxat

 

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Erell

Hello Melissa

 

As nobody can predict how a drug could affect you, the advice here is to keep it simple and try to be patient and use non drug coping skills.

Our destabilised CNS can be very sensitive.

 

You might find these threads interesting :

 

1. -antihistamines-for-withdrawal-insomnia-diphenhydramine-doxylamine-hydroxyzine/

 

2. -beta-blockers-propranolol-metopropol-atenolol-etc/

 

 

Take care  ☀️

 

 

 


2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) 

2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (long half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg) because of a big wave. 

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :

7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020)

1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

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Melissa03

Thank you Erell❤️


20 mg seroxat from december 2012,several failed attempts to quit.

10 mg march 2019

20 mg september 2019

tapered 20 mg till end of november 2019

13 february 2020 crushed

1 March reinstated 10 mg seroxat

 

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