Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hi @Erell I am ok, rocking back and forward between waves and windows. Thanks for asking I just read brass monkeys essay yesterday, a good informative read for me. Acceptance is what stood out for me, something I have been struggling with. When I am in a window it almost feels like a high for me, and then bam back in a wave I feel like I am at square one. How are you doing? Hugs to you💖 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted July 6, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hello Yes, Brassmonkey essay is a huge work and is very relevant to help understand WD ! I understand : it is very difficult to accept the fact healing is not linear. We are easily discouraged when we fall back into a wave after feeling better. But the fact that you had nice windows show that you are on the right path...☀️ Must confess i admire you for being able to work while riding this bumpy road ! You are so strong dear ! I know you'll be ok ❤ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thank you so much for your kind words🙏 I am not stronger I feel then any of you in here. I did miss a few days off of work, while switching to Prozac. You do what you have to to survive, anger pushed me, the anger towards the « mentally ill » labelling I have had on my back for 20 years, anger towards psychiatrists, and big pharma. You will also survive Erell, we all will, never stop believing in that. Sometimes it’s the only thing I held on to, still do Lets go 💪 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 I am also back in a wave at the moment and Like you say Erell it is discouraging We just have to work through the waves and know that recovery awaits us all take care both you are in my thoughts we are Paxil survivors ! Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 6, 2020 Yes @Longroadhome 💪 Hugs to you💖 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hi everyone A quick update I am reaching 4 months drug free, Yay 😀 This is by far the longest period I have been med free in 20 years I am doing fairly good, some days are better then others, rocking between waves and windows. Slowly the windows are coming in more frequently. I have minimum physical symptoms, the symptoms I am dealing with are more emotional. Everything feels more intense then when I was on Paxil, and I am learning that it’s normal since I am not numb anymore and it is new to me. I am in the midst of painting my appartement so that’s shows that my energy is coming back😃 I would never have imagined being were I am at today, sometimes it feels unreal that I have finally made it drug free, and I have this site to thank for sure. You can do anything that you set your mind on🙏 Take care and enjoy your day💖 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 That’s such great news Hanna well done 👍 to you courage and determination play a big part and you my friend have both in abundance !!! Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 14, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 14, 2020 Well done. It's good to hear that you are doing so well. Please continue to update us. It will be appreciated. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted July 14, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 14, 2020 Oh dear Hannah, It is so good to have some good news from you ❤ Enjoy this new freedom 🤗 Keep us updated 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
mustafa Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 It is great to read such good news, this should make all of us determined to do it too. enjoy your life hanaa❤. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted July 14, 2020 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2020 Amazing to hear! Glad you are feeling better! 😊 I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 15, 2020 Thank you my fellow survivors for your kind words as always. I appreciate you all🙏 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 8:48 AM, PerAsperaAdAstra said: I'm nowhere near where you are, but going down from 30mg to 20mg nearly did not cause any bumps. Your rooting is really helpful. @PerAsperaAdAstra Thank you🙏 I am sorry I missed your message Remember that EVERY reduction is huge. I will be sure to root for you on the sideline 💪 Patience and time, and you will get there🥰 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hi Hanna. Four months drug free is so good. Every month after I stopped trazodone I felt better and better. Six months felt nice and one year was even better. You have a lot to look forward to, and you are painting your room. This is excellent that your energy is coming back. I can't wait for that to happen to me. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 19, 2020 So I have been hit with a very bad wave for the last few days. An overwhelming sadness, anxiety and non stop crying. I feel like my brain is not working and I have a hard time responding to questions that I am being asked. Like I can’t find the words in my head. It’s a hard place to be at, and I can’t tell my family this cause I am afraid they think I have relapsed. This process has consumed me for the last 17 months. So I have decided to take a break from this forum and try to not focus on every symptom that I have and just learn to accept it. I have a hard time seeing the suffering in others too. So for now I will try to channel my thoughts on something positive. Hugs to you all 🙏 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Hanna72 said: So I have been hit with a very bad wave for the last few days. An overwhelming sadness, anxiety and non stop crying. I feel like my brain is not working and I have a hard time responding to questions that I am being asked. Like I can’t find the words in my head. It’s a hard place to be at, and I can’t tell my family this cause I am afraid they think I have relapsed. This process has consumed me for the last 17 months. So I have decided to take a break from this forum and try to not focus on every symptom that I have and just learn to accept it. I have a hard time seeing the suffering in others too. So for now I will try to channel my thoughts on something positive. Hugs to you all 🙏 Thinking of you Hanna and understand your decision take care stay focused Recovery comes to us all it’s the natural outcome x Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted July 19, 2020 Mentor Share Posted July 19, 2020 Thinking of you! You will get through it and it will get better! Never forget... Everyday that passes is one day closer being healed. I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
mustafa Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Hanaa, you are doing well anyway, You never relapsed but you only didnt reach the full recovery. Take care and dont panic at all. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Hanna72 said: So I have been hit with a very bad wave for the last few days. An overwhelming sadness, anxiety and non stop crying. I feel like my brain is not working and I have a hard time responding to questions that I am being asked. Like I can’t find the words in my head. It’s a hard place to be at, and I can’t tell my family this cause I am afraid they think I have relapsed. This process has consumed me for the last 17 months. So I have decided to take a break from this forum and try to not focus on every symptom that I have and just learn to accept it. I have a hard time seeing the suffering in others too. So for now I will try to channel my thoughts on something positive. Hugs to you all 🙏 Enjoy your break, my love xxx this (suffering) too shall pass xxx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Mimi79 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Dear Hanna, take this precious time for you, it is a very good thing. Do what you need to do for your health. And thank you so much for all your kind words you said to me when I was feeling low. You helped me tremendously! I will never forget it! Big hugs ! Mimi 2008-Today: various ADs, benzos and seroquel , initially for Anxiety Related Insomnia. (Absolutely no other mental issues than simple Insomnia!). Numerous W/D and C/T of those meds. During those years, my GP diagnosed me with GAD, Depression, etc... It was all W/D related, I know now! Fall of 2019, after too fast attempt to taper Mirtazapine, put myself in full blown W/D. February 2020, found SA and staying on 45mg Mirtazapine, waiting for stabilization. February 2021, I stupidly used some Ativan prn to cope with Mirtazapine W/D symptoms (By far worst mistake of all my life!!). Became accidentally and rapidly addicted (within 2-3 weeks). Started taper immediately. Actual medication: Mirtazapine: 40,0mg - holding- Ativan Taper: Started at 0,29mg march 2021, 03-28 0.28mg/ 04-08 0.27mg/ 04-26 0.25mg/ (...) 10-29 0.18mg/ 04-05-22 0.17mg/ 08-25-22 0.16mg/ 09-15-22 0.15mg/ 10-22-22 0.14mg/…/ 01-12-2023 0.11mg /07-02-2024 switch to 1mg Valium / 14-02-2024 0,9mg Valium. Supplements: Omega-3, Probiotic. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted July 30, 2020 Update I have been having a real hard time for a while now. I appreciate all the support from my fellow survivors 💖 you have no idea how much it means to me. I am having no brain function I feel, anxiety, depression, and trying to accept it all. It’s getting so hard, but one thing is clear....I will NOT be defeated, I WILL NEVER give up, I know I made the right choice by quitting this poison, and it will NEVER get the best of me. Just wanted to note this in my journey of recovery 🙏 Lets go 💪 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted July 30, 2020 Mentor Share Posted July 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hanna72 said: Update I have been having a real hard time for a while now. I appreciate all the support from my fellow survivors 💖 you have no idea how much it means to me. I am having no brain function I feel, anxiety, depression, and trying to accept it all. It’s getting so hard, but one thing is clear....I will NOT be defeated, I WILL NEVER give up, I know I made the right choice by quitting this poison, and it will NEVER get the best of me. Just wanted to note this in my journey of recovery 🙏 Lets go 💪 That attitude will get your through this! You are so strong! Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed! I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
mustafa Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hanna72 said: Update I have been having a real hard time for a while now. I appreciate all the support from my fellow survivors 💖 you have no idea how much it means to me. I am having no brain function I feel, anxiety, depression, and trying to accept it all. It’s getting so hard, but one thing is clear....I will NOT be defeated, I WILL NEVER give up, I know I made the right choice by quitting this poison, and it will NEVER get the best of me. Just wanted to note this in my journey of recovery 🙏 Lets go 💪 Hanaa, Actually I have nothing to add to yiur words and you are strong enough and will get through this and cross it, I trust this; I only need to remind u hanaa that nothing will be out of your control, you know this for sure so, never panick. We are all with u hanna and will never stop giving u hope and support. Please take care . i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 @Hanna72, sending love and hugs. You'll get through this recent stage in healing. Xxx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Hanna72 said: Update I have been having a real hard time for a while now. I appreciate all the support from my fellow survivors 💖 you have no idea how much it means to me. I am having no brain function I feel, anxiety, depression, and trying to accept it all. It’s getting so hard, but one thing is clear....I will NOT be defeated, I WILL NEVER give up, I know I made the right choice by quitting this poison, and it will NEVER get the best of me. Just wanted to note this in my journey of recovery 🙏 Lets go 💪 Well done Hanna that’s the spirit !! sorry you’re feeling so bad stay strong And stay focused on the end of the rainbow 🌈 it’s waiting for you Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted August 3, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 3, 2020 Hello dear Hannah, Your strenght never cease to amaze and inspire me ! ❤️ Send you much love I saw this and thought of you : On 7/24/2020 at 9:27 PM, Katy398 said: That’s another wave to tick off the list Tom. I don’t know whether this helps but I I’ll share it anyway just in case it does. For this to be beneficial there has to be an initial belief that everyone heals eventually. With this in mind I imagine that I have a set number of waves that I am going to go through on this journey. No one knows what that number will be or how long it will take but there is a set number. Everyone who has healed had a set number of waves, too many to count but a set number non the less. So after each wave I try to visualise that I’m now one wave down and one step closer to healing. A midwife recommended this technique to me. She said to welcome each contraction rather than fear it. Each contraction will be one step toward welcoming your beautiful baby into the world 🧡.I’m not very good at welcoming waves yet but after one I always see it as a step closer to healing. Take care Tom, you can do this and now you’re one step closer 🙏 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted August 4, 2020 Thank you @Erell Those words of Katy397 are so true🙏 And thank you for your kind words, all of you💖@mustafa @Cocopuffz17 @Longestroadhome @Mimi79 @sunnysideup69 2 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2020 Oh my goodness, having such good couple of days😊 My whole body is floating with sensations that feels so good. I have been in a battle since starting this process. That’s the only thing I knew how to survive. All my music consisted of battle songs😂 I used to box through them, uuuh not a pretty sight😅 Now, I am starting to laugh so much, I could not wait to start working, meeting my co workers. And now I am dancing in my appartement with happy little songs, with a big smile on my face🤩 I admire all of you so much. Know that we will heal. Now I will dance some more Hugs to you all💖 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted August 6, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 6, 2020 Can relate so much on the dance ! 😃 Everytime symptoms fade I dance in my appartment ! Actually, I do think dance in itself can be a powerfull healer Don't know if you'll want to try : I have issues to practice positive visualisation , but now I use visualisation while dancing : while dancing I can see/feel myself in a happy life, I can feel my inner strenght. Thank you for the nice update, enjoy the dance ! ❤️ 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2020 Thank you erell😍 32 minutes ago, Erell said: Actually, I do think dance in itself can be a powerfull healer Yes I agree 🙏 33 minutes ago, Erell said: Don't know if you'll want to try : I have issues to practice positive visualisation , but now I use visualisation while dancing : while dancing I can see/feel myself in a happy life, I can feel my inner strenght. This is a great, I have used visualisation also, I did it by using lyrics in songs, and music has been my most used coping skill when I didn’t have anything else. When I was boxing 😅 I imagined kicking Paxils butt and all the pharma crew in whole 😆 By the way, I think you are super strong, and your inner strength is there already ,know that🥰 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
mustafa Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Hanna72 said: And now I am dancing in my appartement with happy little songs, with a big smile on my face🤩 I admire all of you so much. Woooooow These happy words touched my heart and made it very happy 😍. It is good also for me that I healed to the point to feel happy when I read yiur optimistic and happy text hanna. Hope more and more happy times for u and pls, send us the music yours . i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 @Hanna72, I'm so glad for you! A window !! xxx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted August 6, 2020 Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2020 That is great to hear!!!! You got this! All the best with many more good days to come!!! I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Cigale Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hello @Hanna72 - I am new to your story but love reading good news like this. And I think dancing is the answer to all the world’s problems. Hope you keep dancing through the weekend! 2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0 Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, mustafa said: Woooooow These happy words touched my heart and made it very happy 😍. It is good also for me that I healed to the point to feel happy when I read yiur optimistic and happy text hanna. Hope more and more happy times for u and pls, send us the music yours . Thank you sweet @mustafa💖 I believe we will all have happy days coming our way, just depends on our healing journey, how long it takes. I am not healed, but I think I am on my way, and so will you.🙏 The music, oh my, 😆 My most favourite was for example I had the song “I am not afraid “ by Eminem playing non stop in the beginning of my journey, because I was so terrified. Then “eye of the tiger” when I needed to push through some hard times💪. I am kind of over them now😂 Thank you for dropping by with your kind words. Hugs to you and take good care of yourself 💖 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Cocopuffz17 said: That is great to hear!!!! You got this! All the best with many more good days to come!!! Thank you @Cocopuffz17 as always for your encouragement 🙏 Hugs to you and keep on thriving 💖 1 hour ago, Cigale said: I am new to your story but love reading good news like this. And I think dancing is the answer to all the world’s problems. Hope you keep dancing through the weekend! Hi @Cigale 😃 Thank you for dropping by my thread. Yes I agree about dancing, it does wonders😊 I wish you all the best in your journey 🙏 1 hour ago, sunnysideup69 said: I'm so glad for you! A window !! xxx YES @sunnysideup69 Thats a window for sure😉 Hugs to you💖 2 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
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