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So happy to read about your good day ! feels so good, right ? :)

 

Take care dear, you sound like an amazing woman ! ❤️

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2006 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, taper to 0.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22 Aug 2019 updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :

* 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* Prozac : 6.8 mg (15 Sept 2021)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 2021)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 2021)

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Longroadhome
14 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

Hi @Longroadhome

Yes I was on it for 20 years. 
Actually, I did not find the pill ever helping me at all, they were just numbing me, and I still had anxiety and panic attacks  when  I was on them, quite frankly I was worse on them then before I took them. That’s why I tried so many times to get off
For me personally I feel like yes my  bridge with Prozac has been truly beneficial, even though I didn’t do the bridge  right, had my doctor guide me. And yes I had withdrawal symptoms, during the bridge and after also, still do,  but I can truly say that this time its different. I can cope, work and function. Which is huge for me.

You can do it too 💪 
By the way good job on your journey, 6,3 mg is a great accomplishment 😃 

 

Thank you for reply Hanna 

Im so glad I found more people on here that have been on Paxil and managing to come off it gives me great hope.

if you don’t mind me asking how old are you ? 

the reason I ask is that it can make a difference to how long WD lasts I think 

 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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5 hours ago, Erell said:

! feels so good, right ? :)

YES YES YES it feels soooo good😃 I have been upping my nutrition a lot too, and I truly believe it’s helping me👍
Thank you for your kind words as always 🥰

@Longestroadhome

No problem. I am 47😅

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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@mustafa and @Cocopuffz17

Thank you🙏

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Update:

I have been doing really good for the past few days. My only WD symptoms have been, few brain zaps here and there, brain fog, not very good memory, fatigue, low energy. 
But the good news is that I have been feeling so calm, which is the best reward and just feels so good I can’t even describe. In 17 months now on this journey I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still😅

I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, but like I have always said, it will be a success, there is just not another option for me in my mind. I will do what ever it takes to make it over the finish line💪
Unfortunately my nutrition has been a big challenge, sugar for sure, so I have just signed up for a program that helps me with that, cause I need guidance there. 
Been reading a lot on coping skills for my anxiety, it’s something that I need to feed my brain on. 
I also need to get some exercise in my daily routine. So a lot of work ahead. 
Just so  thankful for this forum and proud to be among all of you in here. Would not be here if it wasn’t for you all🙏



 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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sunnysideup69

Wonderful news @Hanna72, this is very inspiring. And I love your quote, the Leo Tolstoy one..... ❤️

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hanna72 said:

 I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still

 

Get you on this one : when I have very low chemical anxiety and feel almost myself, I have some tears...happiness tears ❤ It feels so good !

 

You're such an inspiration : I LOVE reading your updates ! I can see the amazingly strong and determined woman ! 

When doubts get in my mind, I like to read your posts,  and get back my strenght !

 

Take care ❤

2006 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, taper to 0.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22 Aug 2019 updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :

* 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* Prozac : 6.8 mg (15 Sept 2021)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 2021)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 2021)

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LostRunner

This is great to read @Hanna72 - gives me hope! Thank you for posting 

11th - 17th February 2020 - Citalopram (3 days 10mg & 4 days 20mg) - SEVERE ADVERSE REACTION 

 

 

 

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Longroadhome
1 hour ago, Hanna72 said:

Update:

I have been doing really good for the past few days. My only WD symptoms have been, few brain zaps here and there, brain fog, not very good memory, fatigue, low energy. 
But the good news is that I have been feeling so calm, which is the best reward and just feels so good I can’t even describe. In 17 months now on this journey I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still😅

I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, but like I have always said, it will be a success, there is just not another option for me in my mind. I will do what ever it takes to make it over the finish line💪
Unfortunately my nutrition has been a big challenge, sugar for sure, so I have just signed up for a program that helps me with that, cause I need guidance there. 
Been reading a lot on coping skills for my anxiety, it’s something that I need to feed my brain on. 
I also need to get some exercise in my daily routine. So a lot of work ahead. 
Just so  thankful for this forum and proud to be among all of you in here. Would not be here if it wasn’t for you all🙏



 

Love reading this Hannah 

as another Paxil long term user it’s great to hear the bridge has been a success for you 

well done 👍 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Thank you all for your kind words, I really appreciate it, makes me  cry ( happy tears) need to pull it together since I am at work 😅

Just want to tell you all that I have so much faith in everyone in here, for us all just being in here, wanting off those drugs, says a lot about us all. That in itself is major strength💪
Even the tiny bit of reduction of the drug, was always huge in my mind. 
 We  are all warriors, finding tools to win the fight. 
Thank you🙏

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Artistic1

Hi, Hanna72. I'm fairly new here, but I read all the posts in your thread, and you've had an amazing journey. It sounds like you may have turned a corner, so stay with it! I admire you for hanging in there when you had terrible symptoms. I totally know what that feels like - like it will never end. But that's not true. The windows keep reappearing after the waves. I was wondering if you have ever found a good therapist for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? That is the one thing that keeps me going though everything. I eat well, I exercise, meditate, take just a few good supplements, but even with that, I can have bad symptoms sometimes. The one thing that pulls everything together is my CBT.

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.666 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg

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Hi @Artistic1

Thank you, yes I believe I have turned a corner, at least a little bit. Holding on to that one tightly 😃

Still have a long road ahead, but I will embrace every tiny positive feeling that I have.

44 minutes ago, Artistic1 said:

. I totally know what that feels like - like it will never end. But that's not true.

So true, it feels like never ending when your in the midst of it

46 minutes ago, Artistic1 said:

. I was wondering if you have ever found a good therapist for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? That is the one thing that keeps me going though

No I haven’t. But thanks for that, I will read up on that one🙏
I can see in your signature you are in tapering, have to say great job to you, and all the work you are doing to keep those WD symptoms at minimum💪 
Thank you for your kind words🥰

All the best to you

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Artistic1

If a therapist isn't workable, there's a good book you can get from Amazon called "Mind over Mood," by Greenberger and Pedesky. Lots of good explanations about emotions, feelings and thoughts, and practical exercises to deal with them. Good luck!

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.666 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg

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So back into a wave.
Feeling extreme sadness and anxiety. The tears just keep on poring. So weird how much I have cried since coming off those meds, Hardly ever  cried on them. Now everything gets me so emotional, I can’t listen to anything bad or hear about anyone having a hard time without starting to cry. 
I need to accept what is.  I knew starting this journey it  would be really hard and challenging. 
So with that said, I know I need to be here, feeling like this to get to where I want to be. 
One day at a time, will be singing in my head today 😏

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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sunnysideup69

Hang in there @Hanna72, you're doing great. I remember from previous times tapering down on Citalopram how the tears would come back after ages of not being able to cry. I'm struggling with being able to cry on the Venlafaxine, even though I've been through bereavement.

Out of interest- are you getting windows of feeling much better, too?

Sending hugs xx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Longroadhome
53 minutes ago, Hanna72 said:

So back into a wave.
Feeling extreme sadness and anxiety. The tears just keep on poring. So weird how much I have cried since coming off those meds, Hardly ever  cried on them. Now everything gets me so emotional, I can’t listen to anything bad or hear about anyone having a hard time without starting to cry. 
I need to accept what is.  I knew starting this journey it  would be really hard and challenging. 
So with that said, I know I need to be here, feeling like this to get to where I want to be. 
One day at a time, will be singing in my head today 😏

 

Keep going Hanna your doing great! 

I’m  tapering Paxil and have the same emotions as I’m also in a wave at present 

 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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30 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Out of interest- are you getting windows of feeling much better, too?

Yes I just had a window on Saturday and Sunday and it felt so good.

Now I am just pacing in my apartment, can’t sit still, extreme anxiety, frustration overwhelming. 
Just full of emotions and weird thoughts. 
17 months on these waves is exhausting. Had to put my whole life on hold due to this poison and it is getting to me.

Sorry for the vent, and thank you for your encouragement, means a lot. 
Going to put my headphones on and take a walk.

Hugs to you sunny🥰
 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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sunnysideup69

I get it, @Hanna72, I've been pretty unstable with windows/ waves for about 23 months. BUT I'm getting better and so are you. We will be free of this one day. Enjoy that walk :) 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Artistic1

Just my opinion about crying.....I believe it's one of the best therapies for everything. It releases pent up tension and emotion. And yet, we feel badly about having to cry, as if there's something wrong with crying on top of everything else we may think is wrong with us. We don't want to burden our friends and family with the crying. But our bodies know better than our minds do about what it needs. I shifted my thinking to see it as good therapy. I wish you all the best with the waves, and hope the windows get bigger and brighter!

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.666 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg

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1 hour ago, Artistic1 said:

Just my opinion about crying.....I believe it's one of the best therapies for everything. It releases pent up tension and emotion. And yet, we feel badly about having to cry, as if there's something wrong with crying on top of everything else we may think is wrong with us. We don't want to burden our friends and family with the crying. But our bodies know better than our minds do about what it needs. I shifted my thinking to see it as good therapy.

That’s a new perspective for me. Thank you @Artistic1 for this. I will think about crying now in a new way. I appreciate it a lot 🙏

 

5 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

I've been pretty unstable with windows/ waves for about 23 months. BUT I'm getting better and so are you. We will be free of this one day. Enjoy that walk :) 

Yes @sunnysideup69 I know we will get better. It’s along journey for us. I admire all of you in here🙏 23 months....good job on staying strong 💪

5 hours ago, Longroadhome said:

Keep going Hanna your doing great! 

I’m  tapering Paxil and have the same emotions as I’m also in a wave at present 

 

Thank you @Longroadhome I really appreciate you encouragement.

We will get there. You are also doing great💪 We will keep on pushing through the storm to get to where we are supposed to be🙏

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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It’s a good day today😃. Been working hard on myself. Just finished reading New Earth by Eckhart Tolle twice now😅 Going to keep on reading about how I can change my thinking. My thoughts are challenging. Want to get to a place were I am not controlled by them. 
I am also making effort in opening up to my coworkers, never been able to let my guard down, and always been to numb to care. 
Been sugar free now for 5 days, and I can feel the difference in my anxiety when I stay away from it.

Also got an app on my phone that reminds me every day how long it has been since my last dose of AD was. And those days sure add up, even though it sometimes feels like it is never ending. 
Take care everyone, we will get to the other side💪
 

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Cocopuffz17
18 minutes ago, Hanna72 said:

It’s a good day today😃. Been working hard on myself. Just finished reading New Earth by Eckhart Tolle twice now😅 Going to keep on reading about how I can change my thinking. My thoughts are challenging. Want to get to a place were I am not controlled by them. 
I am also making effort in opening up to my coworkers, never been able to let my guard down, and always been to numb to care. 
Been sugar free now for 5 days, and I can feel the difference in my anxiety when I stay away from it.

Also got an app on my phone that reminds me every day how long it has been since my last dose of AD was. And those days sure add up, even though it sometimes feels like it is never ending. 
Take care everyone, we will get to the other side💪
 

 

That’s amazing! Yes, sugar is nuts how much it effects us. I to notice a massive difference when I avoid it. Glad you are feeling better

I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. 

 

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@Hanna72 Does the Ekhart Toley Books help you a lot? I’ve bought them many years ago and never read it. Maybe I should...

2008-2019: various ADs at various doses, initially for anxiety related insomnia.

2015: C/T Paxil - GP switch me to Mirtazapine and Pristiq. 2018: Switched Pristiq to Venlafaxine (For tapering)

2019-01: Stopped Venlafaxine after a 10 months taper. Updosed Mirtazapine to 45mg.

Summer 2019: Fast taper of Mirtazapine. Sept 2019, down to 30mg, hit bad W/D symptoms, so updosed to 45mg.

Tried escitalopram 10mg, C/T after 4 weeks. Tried Buspar, C/T after 5 days.

Jan 2020: Second mirtazapine weaning attempt, but end of january, big wave of symptoms, back to 45mg Mirtazapine.

Feb 2020: 50mg quetiapineXR, CT after 1 week. 21 Feb 2020, found SA and staying on 45mg Mirtazapine, waiting for stabilization.

Quetiapine 25mg  PRN since may 2019, March 2020 stopped.

Mirtazapine taper, from 45mg:  2020-10-21 43.88mg, 10-28 42.75mg, 11-04 41.63mg, 11-11 40.5mg, 11-24 41.6mg, 12-03 42.20mg, updose 2021–01-15 to 42,7 and holding.

Ativan prn since jan 2021. Became accidentally dep. March 2021.
2021-03-21 Ativan 0,29mg / 03-28 0.28mg/ 04-08 0.27mg/ 04-26 0.25mg/(...)07-08 0.21mg

Supplements: Magnesium Glycinate, Omega-3, D vit, Probiotic.

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@Mimi79 Yes, for sure, they help with my thinking. You should definitely give it a try👍

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Agree - -Eckhart Tolle can help immensely. In addition to his books, you can find videos of him on YouTube that are very helpful. He also has a website: www.eckharttolle.com. For a small monthly subscription fee, you get access to all kinds of presentations and talks from him. Really worth it!

Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016.

Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017

July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg;  Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018.

Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg.  Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020

Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks.  

June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks.

June 23, 2020  = 16.666 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg

2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg

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Hello hanna,

Wanted to say hello and ask about you!!

hope u are fine.

Thinking of u ❤️.

Please take care 🙏

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Hi @mustafa Thank you for your kind words🥰 I am ok, how are you?

Thank you for thinking of me, really appreciate it 🙏

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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So today I decided to go to the mall, do a little shopping. I haven’t been putting myself into that environment since being off the drugs. I have been treating my NS as it was in a cotton.

I have been having a lot of anxiety for the past few days, but I wanted to try to get out of my comfort zone. It was good in the beginning, but then I could feel a panic coming on so I decided to go into the restroom and sit and breathe. I stayed there for a while until I calmed down. I could feel how my thoughts were messing with me. 
It was all in my head. Before I would have run out, but I decided to push through, keeping my mind as calm asI could. And amazingly I made it😅Nothing happened. 
Our thoughts are so powerful, and the way we talk to ourselves in our heads a lot of times is crucial. 
I am learning every day, and Eckhart Tolle describes it so well, he says “ The primary  cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it, be aware of the thoughts you are thinking, separate them from the situation which is always neutral, which always is at it is. There is the situation or the fact, and here are my thoughts about it”.
Have a good one everyone🙏

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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41 minutes ago, Hanna72 said:

So today I decided to go to the mall, do a little shopping. I haven’t been putting myself into that environment since being off the drugs. I have been treating my NS as it was in a cotton.

I have been having a lot of anxiety for the past few days, but I wanted to try to get out of my comfort zone. It was good in the beginning, but then I could feel a panic coming on so I decided to go into the restroom and sit and breathe. I stayed there for a while until I calmed down. I could feel how my thoughts were messing with me. 
It was all in my head. Before I would have run out, but I decided to push through, keeping my mind as calm asI could. And amazingly I made it😅Nothing happened. 
Our thoughts are so powerful, and the way we talk to ourselves in our heads a lot of times is crucial. 
I am learning every day, and Eckhart Tolle describes it so well, he says “ The primary  cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it, be aware of the thoughts you are thinking, separate them from the situation which is always neutral, which always is at it is. There is the situation or the fact, and here are my thoughts about it”.
Have a good one everyone🙏

Hi hanna,

What you typed is so true,

When i was forcing myself to live a situation, i never failed to grt through it despite that i was telling myself: it is impossible to do this but i threw myself into the situation and i was surprised that iam obliged to deal, obliged to behave.

Courage can beat everything. If u and all of us are brave enough, we can do everything despite the disable and harm.

Thats a fact.

Happy you went for shopping and could go through and i hope u can do more and more.

Take care of yourself.

Mustafa.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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42 minutes ago, mustafa said:

Courage can beat everything. If u and all of us are brave enough, we can do everything despite the disable and harm.

Thats a fact.

YES so true @mustafa love this🥰

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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Cocopuffz17

Yes! That is great news. Way to walk yourself through it! 

I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. 

 

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I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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1 hour ago, Hanna72 said:

I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. 

 

Sorry you're feeling rotten, Hanna. Don't pressure yourself, you can do the practice another day. For now, just rest xxx 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Cocopuffz17
2 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. 

Don't force it. It will get better with time! Take your time and rest :)

I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. 

 

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Thank you @Cocopuffz17 and @sunnysideup69 So it’s better not to force it, ok that is noted 🙏 

Hugs to you🥰

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2

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8 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. 

My dear hanna, 

Other friends are advising u not to force yourself to calm down and of course true.

Being frustrated for not being calm would increase the anxiety and this should make u dont bear. 

You know that it comes and goes and sometimes bad and the others ok.

Try to be quiet whem you are in pain until u cross.

I think the relaxing videos will help u like the videos of forming materials if u know them.

I wish you are ok every time❤️

Take care ❤️.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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