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Just here to tell u that yes, you have to be careful with b vitamins; for me, all types of vitamins are bad so be careful.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Thank you so much @Mimi79

for your kind words. Means a lot 💖

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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Hello @Hanna72,

thought I'd drop by to see how you're doing. Wishing you a good day :) 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Hi @sunnysideup69 Thank you for dropping by😊  Hope you are well.

I have been waiting for some stability in my progress, and I didn’t want to give an update until I could feel a consistent progress. 
 
But here is my progress since last time 😊

I want to start out by saying that my experience on this journey was by far the hardest after I reached zero. That’s when I really had the most difficult time. 

My improvements are:

I can walk fast paced for 40-50 min now

My blurred vision has improved tremendously 

I can be in a crowded area with out any problems 

My connection to people has taken  an amazing shift, and I have been told by family and friends that they see so many positive improvements in me😊

My sleep is mostly good 

I have more energy 

My anxiety is improving slowly and surely. I don’t wake up with a knot in my stomach anymore 

I am much calmer over all

Depersonalisation is improving greatly 

My concentration is improving, that is I can feel that if many things are thrown my way I don’t get as overwhelmed.

I have so much connection to my body, and I am learning to listen to it


I have made many mistakes along the way, my biggest one pushing myself way to much, and being impatient.


I wish I could give you ( who ever is reading this) the feeling I am getting being drug free. I have had doubts creeping in along the way, that I have been damaged. So I know the feeling for sure.


I have the utmost respect for you all. And without all the great tips and people on this site, I would not be where I am today. 

Thank you and I am so grateful for all of you💖



 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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32 minutes ago, Hanna72 said:

Hi @sunnysideup69 Thank you for dropping by😊  Hope you are well.

I have been waiting for some stability in my progress, and I didn’t want to give an update until I could feel a consistent progress. 
 
But here is my progress since last time 😊

I want to start out by saying that my experience on this journey was by far the hardest after I reached zero. That’s when I really had the most difficult time. 

My improvements are:

I can walk fast paced for 40-50 min now

My blurred vision has improved tremendously 

I can be in a crowded area with out any problems 

My connection to people has taken  an amazing shift, and I have been told by family and friends that they see so many positive improvements in me😊

My sleep is mostly good 

I have more energy 

My anxiety is improving slowly and surely. I don’t wake up with a knot in my stomach anymore 

I am much calmer over all

Depersonalisation is improving greatly 

My concentration is improving, that is I can feel that if many things are thrown my way I don’t get as overwhelmed.

I have so much connection to my body, and I am learning to listen to it


I have made many mistakes along the way, my biggest one pushing myself way to much, and being impatient.


I wish I could give you ( who ever is reading this) the feeling I am getting being drug free. I have had doubts creeping in along the way, that I have been damaged. So I know the feeling for sure.


I have the utmost respect for you all. And without all the great tips and people on this site, I would not be where I am today. 

Thank you and I am so grateful for all of you💖



 

This is great news!!!! I am glad you are doing well!!! Here is to many more days of improvements! 

I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. 

 

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What a beautiful and inspiring update @Hanna72! It is so uplifting to hear you are doing well and thriving. I am learning so much from this community and you have been so generous in sharing your insights and healing advice. Thank you! 🤗

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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So sweet of you to take the time to share your improvements, and so happy to read them !

I don't know if you realize how much an inspiration you are here ❤

I'm relieved to read things are improving, and so glad about your connection to people.

Sending lot of hugs ☀️

2006 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam 2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22 Aug 2019 updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :

* 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* Prozac : 6.64mg (4 Nov 2021) / 6.72mg (8 oct 2021) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 2021)6.88mg (14 Aug 2021)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 2021)

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What a fantastic update @Hanna72. Sounds like you have healed enormously and are now reaping the benefits of being drug free. I hope the improvements continue and you find yourself feeling better and better.

 

Sept 2018 - Nov 2018 200mg sertraline, 7.5mg olanzapine. 

Nov 2018 - Jan 2018 200mg sertraline, 30mg mirtazapine, 7.5mg olanzapine.

Jan 2019 - mid Feb 2019 reduced sertraline from 200 - 50mg, 7.5mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine.

Feb 2019- Jun 2019 30mg mirtazapine, 50mg sertraline, 7.5mg olanzapine.

Jun 2019 - Oct 2019 30mg mirtazapine, 50mg sertraline, 5mg olanzapine.

Oct 2019 - Nov 2019 37.gmg sertraline, 39mg mirtazapine, 5mg olanzapine.

Nov 2019 -Dec 2019 25mg sertraline, 30mg mirtazapine, 5mg olanzapine. Jan 2020 18.75mg sertraline, 5mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine. Feb 2020 0mg sertraline, 2.5mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine. May 2020 1.8mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine. Aug 2020 2.5mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine. Stabilised for 9 months @2.5mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine. May2021 started slow taper from olanzapine, 5% previous dose per month. Oct 2021 1.875mg olanzapine, 30mg mirtazapine.

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You guys are so amazing, thank you all for your kind words. You just made my day💖

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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@Hanna72

 

let me start by saying you ARE giving us the feeling what it’s like to be drug free just by your enthusiasm optimistic outlook and drive. 
You are an inspiration,  brave,  fearless and determined !! 
I’m so proud of you . You are there for everyone with motivation and  positivity . 
 

Thank  you for sharing your progress Showing it can be done xx

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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@Longroadhome Thank you so much💖 It means a lot. I know you will get there too, and we will dance together in spirit ,both Paxil free🙏 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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@Hanna72

 

youre such a lovely person x

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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@Altostrata
 

Prozac Bridge :

 
Week 1= 10 mg Paxil + 10 mg Prozac

 

Week 2= 10 mg Paxil + 20 mg Prozac, started tapering Paxil. Until I reached zero.

Was hit with really bad withdrawals symptoms, paranoia being the worst one.

 

Week 3 = was told to up dose to 30 mg Prozac (with out no relief) told again to up dose to 40 mg Prozac. Became extremely sedated and zombie like.   


Week 4 = Dropped my dose back down to 30 mg, and again dropped to 20 mg


This was all in about 1 month period. 
 

After 11 days on 20 mg finally stabilised. Manageable symptoms

Much easier ride down from there on.



 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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Thanks for that information, Hanna.

 

It's a fairly conventional crossover, except your doctor had you start tapering Paxil before Prozac fully took effect, then compensated by boosting the fluoxetine dose.

 

Good to hear you're doing well.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 10/18/2020 at 7:26 PM, Hanna72 said:

@Altostrata
 

Prozac Bridge :

 
Week 1= 10 mg Paxil + 10 mg Prozac

 

Week 2= 10 mg Paxil + 20 mg Prozac, started tapering Paxil. Until I reached zero.

Was hit with really bad withdrawals symptoms, paranoia being the worst one.

 

Week 3 = was told to up dose to 30 mg Prozac (with out no relief) told again to up dose to 40 mg Prozac. Became extremely sedated and zombie like.   


Week 4 = Dropped my dose back down to 30 mg, and again dropped to 20 mg


This was all in about 1 month period. 
 

After 11 days on 20 mg finally stabilised. Manageable symptoms

Much easier ride down from there on.



 

Hello hanna,

Iam sorry but I think I miss something concerning your thread, I think u were totally drug free, right?, so I cant understand this last post from u.

I hope u are doing well whatever of course ❤❤

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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@mustafa

21 hours ago, mustafa said:

I think u were totally drug free, right?,

Yes I am drug free.

21 hours ago, mustafa said:

so I cant understand this last post from u.

The last post was a description for my bridge from Paxil to Prozac and how I did it.

 

I am doing well thank you and I hope you are too.

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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@Hanna72 that's a lovely update and great news! So glad to hear you are healing well 😊 So good for everyone to read it, too, as it's yet more evidence of healing.

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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My thoughts for today. And a gentle reminder to myself.

 

If there is unhappiness in you, anxiety, frustration or sadness, first I need to knowledge that.

The primary cause of struggles in life is never the situation, but your thoughts about it, be aware of the thoughts you are thinking, separate them from the situation, which is always neutral, which always is at it is. Here is the situation and here are my thoughts about it. Instead of making up stories, stay with the facts. 
For example: I am damaged is a story. It limits you and prevents you from taking affective  action.

If there is nothing you can do at the moment, face what is and say, well right now this is how it is, I can either accept it or make myself miserable.

Be aware that what you think to a large extent, creates the emotions that you feel. See the link between your thinking and your emotions.

Rather then being your thoughts and emotions, be the awareness behind them.
 

Never quit, when I stumble I chose to get back up.

 

 

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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@Hanna72

 

Your message is so true . 
I can have a day where I feel positive even though symptoms are bad and I’ll get through the day in a positive way . On  another day my attitude to symptoms can make them seem unbearable yet they are no more intense than on a more positive day. 
yes what we think creates  the emotions we feel 

thank you for reminding me 

 

how are you doing Hanna ? X 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hi @Longroadhome

Thank you for dropping by.

Yes the way we think is so important. 
I am doing ok, still learning how to lessen my anxiety which comes in waves. 
How are you doing?

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

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Sounds like your making improvements Hanna that’s great !

im waiting to stabilise from my July med reductions when I destabilised but getting there ! 
Keep moving forward your doing great 👍  👍 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hi everyone 

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated on this matter.

I have not been able to drive my car long distances since quitting Paxil. Get overwhelmed and panic sets in if I do.

I just practiced to day to face my fears, and had extreme panic set in were I had a panic attack for the first time in weeks. I have been dreading this practice, so I realise my thoughts are major factor in this. 
Should I avoid these practices while still so sensitive or should I push through some more?

Thank you

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

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Firstly @Hanna72

what are you afraid of the panic attack coming on or driving ? 
 

if it’s the panic attack you need to practice skills to get through it . Not in the car if you don’t have to pick a safer panic option . a safe situation that still sets panic off . And practice coping techniques. 
If it’s the car maybe drive down safe roads to get your confidence back but don’t push yourself to go into town yet as you’re obviously not ready . Start off with safe and small journies x 

 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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@Longroadhome

20 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

what are you afraid of the panic attack coming on or driving ? 

I am afraid of the panic attack itself. Having it while driving and no way out is my fear.

22 minutes ago, Longroadhome said:

Start off with safe and small journies

Yes that’s sounds good. 
I will then build up my confidence little step at a time. I am on it. Will go back out this evening with a small journey and less traffic.

Thank you much appreciated 🙏

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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@Hanna72

if you’re afraid of the panic attack then you need to practice in situations that make you feel uncomfortable  and learn how to get through them . You won’t faint and even with a panic you will be able to park up because you will feel it coming on . So as said start with easy situations to get out of knowing it’s the panic you have to overcome. 
Don’t put yourself in danger do quiet easy roads. 

you can’t run away from panic the only way is through 

let us know how you go xx 

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hello @Hanna72, I read your pist about panick attacks while driving and if I were u, I would resort to one of 2 solutions, the first is to throw myself in situations, nothing severe or wrong will happen but I know this solution is too hard but it is a good one, the 2nd you expressed it which is to build your condidence a step by step, I think this would be of use too.

I found exercise of calming and some types of yoga are very good to make the brain quiet and this will help u hang on while feeling fears, while driving.

I hope u can overcome this and let me know how it goes please 

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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@Longroadhome and @mustafa

I did it💪 Went the same route and even made a detour.

Your advices stayed with me the whole time. Thank you💖

I will practice now steadily until I will overcome this.

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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Hi @Hanna72!

 

So good that you managed to do it and even took a detour! 😃 Good sign that the anxiety for the anxiety was far worse than it actually was!

I have exactly the same fear about being trapped. Which like really never happened. On many occasions I felt really close on getting a panic attack while driving , but never actually got it while driving. I think mainly because driving itself is a distraction that helps to not focus on yourself continuously. 

Things that help me are listening to stand-up comedy while driving and making a promise to myself for when I get back, like having a nice cup of tea with some chocolate on which I can focus whilst driving. I also find comfort in the thought that if there is a chance of something bad happening there is also a (much greater) chance of it not happening.

 

 

 

 

1998-1999: Got prescribed Paxil

2001: 60mg Paxil per/day
2003 - 2010:  (tried a cold turkey stop attempt) ended up with 20mg
2014 - 2016: Started tapering together with GP
2016: Went from 5mg to 0mg
Early 2017: Started with Paxil again 20mg
2018: Second tapering try
2018: Went from 20mg to 10mg
2019: Went from 10mg to 5mg
2020: Went from 5mg to 0mg with liquid Paxil (20% steps)
Paxil free since august 2020
 

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12 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

@Longroadhome and @mustafa

I did it💪 Went the same route and even made a detour.

Your advices stayed with me the whole time. Thank you💖

I will practice now steadily until I will overcome this.

Well done Hanna 

make sure you do those journies every couple of days snd keep practicing getting through the panic 

 

you’re such a strong positive character xx

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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So I have been in a wave for some time now. Man this is the hardest thing I have done in years.

The good thing is though that I have never taken such good care of myself🙂

I am also in menopause, so I have realised that some of my symptoms might be due to that.

 

My symptoms are:

High anxiety 

Aches all over my body 

Brain fog

Headaches

crying spells 

sadness

memory issues 

 

Just gonna sail through it, one day at a time😏

 

 

 

 

Prescribed Paxil 20 mg year 2000 for panic attacks.

Many attempts through out the years to quit.

2019 tapered from 20 mg to 10 mg. Got stuck there, decided to bridge with Fluoxetine. 
2020 March off Fluoxetine 

2020 Oct- nov started deteriorating, followed by severe crash. 2021 Reinstated fluoxetine by small amount, until I reach 9 mg

Tapering 10% every 4-6 weeks and longer holds if necessary 

12/5 2021- 8.5 21/5 8.0 15/6 7.5 20/6 7.2 changed to liquid tapering 10/7  7.0  19/7 6.5 20/8 5.8 20/9 5.2 20/10 4.7

20/11 4.2

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Sending strength Hanna! You’ve got this! One day at a time. You’ll make it to the other side ❤️

•august 2016- feb 2019: on and off SSRIs (fluoxetine and agomelatine) also unknown drug and clonazepam for a short amount of time 

_________________________________________________________

•January 25 2020: 50mg of setraline and clonazepam 1mg 

•March 2020: increase to 100mg of setraline

•May 2020:  stopped setraline, fast tapper 3 weeks. stopped clonazepam, according to how my psychiatrists told me. 

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@Hanna72

 

How long has your wave lasted? 
You’re  8 months clear of drugs and you’re bound to have ups and downs at the moment. 

Keep going you’re heading in the right direction.
You have strength and resilience and you most definitely WILL make it to the other side x

October 2004 Paxil 20mg - October 2018, 14 years

Nov 2018 Pregabalin - 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD

August 2019 Pregabalin - 2 x 25mg a day 

April 2020 Pregabalin - 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, beg July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg 

June 2021   Pregabalin - 14mg,

October 2018 Paxil - 20 mg, November 15mg, December 10mg  

February 2019 Paxil- 7.5mg crashed, February 8.5mg, Nov 8mg 

March 2020 Paxil - 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, December 4.5mg 

January 2021 Paxil - 4mg, February 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg

 

these dates are approximate 

 

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Hello dear Hannah, 

 

Ugh, I'm sorry to read that you hit another wave.

 

I don't know if you had already seen this quote, I found it brilliant !

 

On 7/24/2020 at 9:27 PM, Katy398 said:

I don’t know whether this helps but I I’ll share it anyway just in case it does.

For this to be beneficial there has to be an initial belief that everyone heals eventually. With this in mind I imagine that I have a set number of waves that I am going to go through on this journey. No one knows what that number will be or how long it will take but there is a set number. Everyone who has healed had a set number of waves,  too many to count but a set number non the less. So after each wave I try to visualise that I’m now one wave down and one step closer to healing. A midwife recommended this technique to me. She said to welcome each contraction rather than fear it. Each contraction will be one step toward welcoming your  beautiful baby into the world 🧡.I’m not very good at welcoming waves yet but after one I always see it as a step closer to healing. 

 

 

I hope you won't take this the wrong way : I'm just glad that on your way to healing you have one wave down and are one step closer to healing. You deserve i so much !

Remember, we are constantly moving toward a window ☀️

 

But ugh, what a challenge it is ! 

I find that help me the most during hard times is visualisation, even if it means living only in my fantasies : imagination can help us so much !

 

Meanwhile, be sure you have all my support ❤️ 

2006 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam 2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22 Aug 2019 updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :

* 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* Prozac : 6.64mg (4 Nov 2021) / 6.72mg (8 oct 2021) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 2021)6.88mg (14 Aug 2021)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 2021)

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4 hours ago, Hanna72 said:

 

Just gonna sail through it, one day at a time

Good to read this hanna, this solution is always useful.

I support u and hope you get a lovely window soon.

Pls take care 

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Hi @Hanna72, been catching up on your thread. I know you've been in a wave - am really hoping it is beginning to ease a bit for you.

You're doing so well over all, and are very firmly in the healing process.....waves are evidence of healing happening, as well as windows.

There are so many variables in the world right now that are stressors, too - was thinking the other day, what a time to be going through all of this.

Just wanted to send you warm wishes from London. Hugs xxx

 

 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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