Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted April 28, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) So happy to read about your good day ! feels so good, right ? Take care dear, you sound like an amazing woman ! ❤️ Edited April 28, 2020 by Erell 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Hanna72 said: Hi @Longroadhome Yes I was on it for 20 years. Actually, I did not find the pill ever helping me at all, they were just numbing me, and I still had anxiety and panic attacks when I was on them, quite frankly I was worse on them then before I took them. That’s why I tried so many times to get off For me personally I feel like yes my bridge with Prozac has been truly beneficial, even though I didn’t do the bridge right, had my doctor guide me. And yes I had withdrawal symptoms, during the bridge and after also, still do, but I can truly say that this time its different. I can cope, work and function. Which is huge for me. You can do it too 💪 By the way good job on your journey, 6,3 mg is a great accomplishment 😃 Thank you for reply Hanna Im so glad I found more people on here that have been on Paxil and managing to come off it gives me great hope. if you don’t mind me asking how old are you ? the reason I ask is that it can make a difference to how long WD lasts I think Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Erell said: ! feels so good, right ? YES YES YES it feels soooo good😃 I have been upping my nutrition a lot too, and I truly believe it’s helping me👍 Thank you for your kind words as always 🥰 @Longestroadhome No problem. I am 47😅 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted April 28, 2020 @mustafa and @Cocopuffz17 Thank you🙏 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 3, 2020 Update: I have been doing really good for the past few days. My only WD symptoms have been, few brain zaps here and there, brain fog, not very good memory, fatigue, low energy. But the good news is that I have been feeling so calm, which is the best reward and just feels so good I can’t even describe. In 17 months now on this journey I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still😅 I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, but like I have always said, it will be a success, there is just not another option for me in my mind. I will do what ever it takes to make it over the finish line💪 Unfortunately my nutrition has been a big challenge, sugar for sure, so I have just signed up for a program that helps me with that, cause I need guidance there. Been reading a lot on coping skills for my anxiety, it’s something that I need to feed my brain on. I also need to get some exercise in my daily routine. So a lot of work ahead. Just so thankful for this forum and proud to be among all of you in here. Would not be here if it wasn’t for you all🙏 3 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Wonderful news @Hanna72, this is very inspiring. And I love your quote, the Leo Tolstoy one..... ❤️ January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Erell Posted May 3, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanna72 said: I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still Get you on this one : when I have very low chemical anxiety and feel almost myself, I have some tears...happiness tears ❤ It feels so good ! You're such an inspiration : I LOVE reading your updates ! I can see the amazingly strong and determined woman ! When doubts get in my mind, I like to read your posts, and get back my strenght ! Take care ❤ 1 2006 : 20mg Paxil+Bromazepam. 2008 : cold turkey of both. 2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam. 2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg. 2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days). 22 Aug 2019 updose to 10mg (was at 8.4mg). 25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details : topic/21457 Current Supplements : magnesium citrate + fish oil Current medication : * 7pm Diazepam : 0.85mg (15 Aug 2022) / 0.95 mg (24 April 2022) / 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020) * 8am Prozac : 6.16mg (25 oct 2022, feel awful, slight updose) / 6.08 mg (9 oct 2022) / 6.24mg (11 July 22) / 6.44mg (22 May 22) / 6.64mg (4 Nov 21) / 6.72mg (8 oct 21) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 21)/ 6.88mg (14 Aug 21)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 21) I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
LostRunner Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 This is great to read @Hanna72 - gives me hope! Thank you for posting 11th - 17th February 2020 - Citalopram (3 days 10mg & 4 days 20mg) - SEVERE ADVERSE REACTION Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanna72 said: Update: I have been doing really good for the past few days. My only WD symptoms have been, few brain zaps here and there, brain fog, not very good memory, fatigue, low energy. But the good news is that I have been feeling so calm, which is the best reward and just feels so good I can’t even describe. In 17 months now on this journey I finally can feel a tiny bit of myself coming through and just writing this makes me cry, so obviously sensitive still😅 I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, but like I have always said, it will be a success, there is just not another option for me in my mind. I will do what ever it takes to make it over the finish line💪 Unfortunately my nutrition has been a big challenge, sugar for sure, so I have just signed up for a program that helps me with that, cause I need guidance there. Been reading a lot on coping skills for my anxiety, it’s something that I need to feed my brain on. I also need to get some exercise in my daily routine. So a lot of work ahead. Just so thankful for this forum and proud to be among all of you in here. Would not be here if it wasn’t for you all🙏 Love reading this Hannah as another Paxil long term user it’s great to hear the bridge has been a success for you well done 👍 Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 3, 2020 Thank you all for your kind words, I really appreciate it, makes me cry ( happy tears) need to pull it together since I am at work 😅 Just want to tell you all that I have so much faith in everyone in here, for us all just being in here, wanting off those drugs, says a lot about us all. That in itself is major strength💪 Even the tiny bit of reduction of the drug, was always huge in my mind. We are all warriors, finding tools to win the fight. Thank you🙏 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Artistic1 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Hi, Hanna72. I'm fairly new here, but I read all the posts in your thread, and you've had an amazing journey. It sounds like you may have turned a corner, so stay with it! I admire you for hanging in there when you had terrible symptoms. I totally know what that feels like - like it will never end. But that's not true. The windows keep reappearing after the waves. I was wondering if you have ever found a good therapist for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? That is the one thing that keeps me going though everything. I eat well, I exercise, meditate, take just a few good supplements, but even with that, I can have bad symptoms sometimes. The one thing that pulls everything together is my CBT. Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016. Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017 July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg; Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018. Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg. Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020 Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks. June 23, 2020 = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg 2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 3, 2020 Hi @Artistic1 Thank you, yes I believe I have turned a corner, at least a little bit. Holding on to that one tightly 😃 Still have a long road ahead, but I will embrace every tiny positive feeling that I have. 44 minutes ago, Artistic1 said: . I totally know what that feels like - like it will never end. But that's not true. So true, it feels like never ending when your in the midst of it 46 minutes ago, Artistic1 said: . I was wondering if you have ever found a good therapist for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? That is the one thing that keeps me going though No I haven’t. But thanks for that, I will read up on that one🙏 I can see in your signature you are in tapering, have to say great job to you, and all the work you are doing to keep those WD symptoms at minimum💪 Thank you for your kind words🥰 All the best to you 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Artistic1 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 If a therapist isn't workable, there's a good book you can get from Amazon called "Mind over Mood," by Greenberger and Pedesky. Lots of good explanations about emotions, feelings and thoughts, and practical exercises to deal with them. Good luck! Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016. Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017 July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg; Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018. Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg. Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020 Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks. June 23, 2020 = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg 2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 5, 2020 So back into a wave. Feeling extreme sadness and anxiety. The tears just keep on poring. So weird how much I have cried since coming off those meds, Hardly ever cried on them. Now everything gets me so emotional, I can’t listen to anything bad or hear about anyone having a hard time without starting to cry. I need to accept what is. I knew starting this journey it would be really hard and challenging. So with that said, I know I need to be here, feeling like this to get to where I want to be. One day at a time, will be singing in my head today 😏 3 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Hang in there @Hanna72, you're doing great. I remember from previous times tapering down on Citalopram how the tears would come back after ages of not being able to cry. I'm struggling with being able to cry on the Venlafaxine, even though I've been through bereavement. Out of interest- are you getting windows of feeling much better, too? Sending hugs xx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Longroadhome Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, Hanna72 said: So back into a wave. Feeling extreme sadness and anxiety. The tears just keep on poring. So weird how much I have cried since coming off those meds, Hardly ever cried on them. Now everything gets me so emotional, I can’t listen to anything bad or hear about anyone having a hard time without starting to cry. I need to accept what is. I knew starting this journey it would be really hard and challenging. So with that said, I know I need to be here, feeling like this to get to where I want to be. One day at a time, will be singing in my head today 😏 Keep going Hanna your doing great! I’m tapering Paxil and have the same emotions as I’m also in a wave at present Nov 2018 Pregabalin 2x50 mg a day to help with Paxil WD. Aug 2019 2 x 25mg a day, April 2020 45mg, May 40mg, June 35mg, July 30mg, end July 25mg, Aug 24mg, June 2021 14mg, Jan 2022 14mg (2x7mg a day), Oct 10mg, Nov 5mg, December 25th 2022 0mg 🎈 Oct 2004 - Oct 2018 Paxil 20 mg, Nov 15mg, Dec 10mg, Feb 2019 7.5mg crashed, Feb 8.5mg, Nov 8mg, March 2020 7.2mg, April 6.5mg, May 5.9mg, June 5.4mg, July 4.8mg, Dec 4.5mg, Jan 2021 4mg, Feb 3.6mg, March 3.2mg, April 2.9mg, Aug 2.7mg, Sept 2.4mg, Oct 2.2mg, Nov 2mg, Dec 1.8mg, Feb 2022 1.6mg, March 1.4mg, April 1.2mg, May 1.0mg, June 0.8mg, July 0.6mg, Aug 0.4mg, Sep 0.2mg, October 6th 2022 0mg 🎈 December 25th 2022 drug free these dates are approximate Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said: Out of interest- are you getting windows of feeling much better, too? Yes I just had a window on Saturday and Sunday and it felt so good. Now I am just pacing in my apartment, can’t sit still, extreme anxiety, frustration overwhelming. Just full of emotions and weird thoughts. 17 months on these waves is exhausting. Had to put my whole life on hold due to this poison and it is getting to me. Sorry for the vent, and thank you for your encouragement, means a lot. Going to put my headphones on and take a walk. Hugs to you sunny🥰 2 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I get it, @Hanna72, I've been pretty unstable with windows/ waves for about 23 months. BUT I'm getting better and so are you. We will be free of this one day. Enjoy that walk January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Artistic1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just my opinion about crying.....I believe it's one of the best therapies for everything. It releases pent up tension and emotion. And yet, we feel badly about having to cry, as if there's something wrong with crying on top of everything else we may think is wrong with us. We don't want to burden our friends and family with the crying. But our bodies know better than our minds do about what it needs. I shifted my thinking to see it as good therapy. I wish you all the best with the waves, and hope the windows get bigger and brighter! 1 Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016. Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017 July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg; Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018. Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg. Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020 Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks. June 23, 2020 = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg 2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Artistic1 said: Just my opinion about crying.....I believe it's one of the best therapies for everything. It releases pent up tension and emotion. And yet, we feel badly about having to cry, as if there's something wrong with crying on top of everything else we may think is wrong with us. We don't want to burden our friends and family with the crying. But our bodies know better than our minds do about what it needs. I shifted my thinking to see it as good therapy. That’s a new perspective for me. Thank you @Artistic1 for this. I will think about crying now in a new way. I appreciate it a lot 🙏 5 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said: I've been pretty unstable with windows/ waves for about 23 months. BUT I'm getting better and so are you. We will be free of this one day. Enjoy that walk Yes @sunnysideup69 I know we will get better. It’s along journey for us. I admire all of you in here🙏 23 months....good job on staying strong 💪 5 hours ago, Longroadhome said: Keep going Hanna your doing great! I’m tapering Paxil and have the same emotions as I’m also in a wave at present Thank you @Longroadhome I really appreciate you encouragement. We will get there. You are also doing great💪 We will keep on pushing through the storm to get to where we are supposed to be🙏 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 9, 2020 It’s a good day today😃. Been working hard on myself. Just finished reading New Earth by Eckhart Tolle twice now😅 Going to keep on reading about how I can change my thinking. My thoughts are challenging. Want to get to a place were I am not controlled by them. I am also making effort in opening up to my coworkers, never been able to let my guard down, and always been to numb to care. Been sugar free now for 5 days, and I can feel the difference in my anxiety when I stay away from it. Also got an app on my phone that reminds me every day how long it has been since my last dose of AD was. And those days sure add up, even though it sometimes feels like it is never ending. Take care everyone, we will get to the other side💪 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted May 9, 2020 Mentor Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hanna72 said: It’s a good day today😃. Been working hard on myself. Just finished reading New Earth by Eckhart Tolle twice now😅 Going to keep on reading about how I can change my thinking. My thoughts are challenging. Want to get to a place were I am not controlled by them. I am also making effort in opening up to my coworkers, never been able to let my guard down, and always been to numb to care. Been sugar free now for 5 days, and I can feel the difference in my anxiety when I stay away from it. Also got an app on my phone that reminds me every day how long it has been since my last dose of AD was. And those days sure add up, even though it sometimes feels like it is never ending. Take care everyone, we will get to the other side💪 That’s amazing! Yes, sugar is nuts how much it effects us. I to notice a massive difference when I avoid it. Glad you are feeling better I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Mimi79 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 @Hanna72 Does the Ekhart Toley Books help you a lot? I’ve bought them many years ago and never read it. Maybe I should... 2008-Today: various ADs, benzos and seroquel , initially for Anxiety Related Insomnia. (Absolutely no other mental issues than simple Insomnia!). Numerous W/D and C/T of those meds. During those years, my GP diagnosed me with GAD, Depression, etc... It was all W/D related, I know now! Fall of 2019, after too fast attempt to taper Mirtazapine, put myself in full blown W/D. February 2020, found SA and staying on 45mg Mirtazapine, waiting for stabilization. February 2021, I stupidly used some Ativan prn to cope with Mirtazapine W/D symptoms (By far worst mistake of all my life!!). Became accidentally and rapidly addicted (within 2-3 weeks). Started taper immediately. Actual medication: Mirtazapine: 40,0mg - holding- Ativan Taper: Started at 0,29mg march 2021, 03-28 0.28mg/ 04-08 0.27mg/ 04-26 0.25mg/ (...) 10-29 0.18mg/ 04-05-22 0.17mg/ 08-25-22 0.16mg/ 09-15-22 0.15mg/ 10-22-22 0.14mg/…/ 01-12-2023 0.11mg /07-02-2024 switch to 1mg Valium / 14-02-2024 0,9mg Valium. Supplements: Omega-3, Probiotic. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 10, 2020 @Mimi79 Yes, for sure, they help with my thinking. You should definitely give it a try👍 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Artistic1 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Agree - -Eckhart Tolle can help immensely. In addition to his books, you can find videos of him on YouTube that are very helpful. He also has a website: www.eckharttolle.com. For a small monthly subscription fee, you get access to all kinds of presentations and talks from him. Really worth it! Celexa - 20 mg May 2015 - March 2016 (Felt quite good)..... Celexa taper from May 2016 - Nov 2016.....Completely off by Nov. 2016. Depression and Anxiety returned June 2017 July, 2017: Zoloft = 25 mg; Aug. 2017 = 37.5 mg; Nov. 2017 = 50 mg thru Jan. 23, 2018. Jan. 2018 - May 6, 2019 = taper Zoloft from 50 mg to 12.5 mg. Aug. 11, 2019 - felt so bad that I reinstated at 25mg. Hold at this dose until Feb. 3, 2020 Feb. 4, 2020 = reduce dose to 21.875 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. April 14, 2020 = 18.75 mg. Hold for 10 weeks. June10, 2020 - start cycle of 2 weeks to taper slowly from old dose to new dose, then hold at new dose for 6 weeks. June 23, 2020 = 16.66 mg.........August 26, 2020 = 14.75 mg ....... October 28, 2020 = 13.15 mg 2021: Jan. 1 = 11.85 mg....Feb. 26 = 10.5 mg....April 23 = 9.3 mg....June 12 = 8.33 mg.... Aug. 7 = 7.05 mg.....Oct. 9 = 6.08 mg.....Dec. 4 = 5.12 mg......Jan. 21, 2022 = 4.16mg.....Mar. 26 = 3.20mg......May 7 = 1.92mg....June 11 = 1.6mg.....July 23= 1.28 mg.....Aug. 13 = 0.96 mg.....Sept. 1 =O mg. Link to comment
mustafa Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Hello hanna, Wanted to say hello and ask about you!! hope u are fine. Thinking of u ❤️. Please take care 🙏 i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 12, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 12, 2020 Hi @mustafa Thank you for your kind words🥰 I am ok, how are you? Thank you for thinking of me, really appreciate it 🙏 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 13, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 13, 2020 So today I decided to go to the mall, do a little shopping. I haven’t been putting myself into that environment since being off the drugs. I have been treating my NS as it was in a cotton. I have been having a lot of anxiety for the past few days, but I wanted to try to get out of my comfort zone. It was good in the beginning, but then I could feel a panic coming on so I decided to go into the restroom and sit and breathe. I stayed there for a while until I calmed down. I could feel how my thoughts were messing with me. It was all in my head. Before I would have run out, but I decided to push through, keeping my mind as calm asI could. And amazingly I made it😅Nothing happened. Our thoughts are so powerful, and the way we talk to ourselves in our heads a lot of times is crucial. I am learning every day, and Eckhart Tolle describes it so well, he says “ The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it, be aware of the thoughts you are thinking, separate them from the situation which is always neutral, which always is at it is. There is the situation or the fact, and here are my thoughts about it”. Have a good one everyone🙏 3 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
mustafa Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Hanna72 said: So today I decided to go to the mall, do a little shopping. I haven’t been putting myself into that environment since being off the drugs. I have been treating my NS as it was in a cotton. I have been having a lot of anxiety for the past few days, but I wanted to try to get out of my comfort zone. It was good in the beginning, but then I could feel a panic coming on so I decided to go into the restroom and sit and breathe. I stayed there for a while until I calmed down. I could feel how my thoughts were messing with me. It was all in my head. Before I would have run out, but I decided to push through, keeping my mind as calm asI could. And amazingly I made it😅Nothing happened. Our thoughts are so powerful, and the way we talk to ourselves in our heads a lot of times is crucial. I am learning every day, and Eckhart Tolle describes it so well, he says “ The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but your thoughts about it, be aware of the thoughts you are thinking, separate them from the situation which is always neutral, which always is at it is. There is the situation or the fact, and here are my thoughts about it”. Have a good one everyone🙏 Hi hanna, What you typed is so true, When i was forcing myself to live a situation, i never failed to grt through it despite that i was telling myself: it is impossible to do this but i threw myself into the situation and i was surprised that iam obliged to deal, obliged to behave. Courage can beat everything. If u and all of us are brave enough, we can do everything despite the disable and harm. Thats a fact. Happy you went for shopping and could go through and i hope u can do more and more. Take care of yourself. Mustafa. 1 i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 13, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, mustafa said: Courage can beat everything. If u and all of us are brave enough, we can do everything despite the disable and harm. Thats a fact. YES so true @mustafa love this🥰 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted May 14, 2020 Mentor Share Posted May 14, 2020 Yes! That is great news. Way to walk yourself through it! I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 18, 2020 I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. 1 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
sunnysideup69 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanna72 said: I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. Sorry you're feeling rotten, Hanna. Don't pressure yourself, you can do the practice another day. For now, just rest xxx January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped. Link to comment
Mentor Cocopuffz17 Posted May 18, 2020 Mentor Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Hanna72 said: I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. Don't force it. It will get better with time! Take your time and rest I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 2008 to 2019 - 20 mg Paroxetine Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful. 2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 2021 - Feb. 12 - 24 months off paroxetine. I have minor challenges now. Tinnitus/Headaches are still around but are reduced by a massive amount. Link to comment
Mentor Hanna72 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Mentor Share Posted May 18, 2020 Thank you @Cocopuffz17 and @sunnysideup69 So it’s better not to force it, ok that is noted 🙏 Hugs to you🥰 1999-2020 20 mg Paxil Bridged with Fluoxetine to help me get off Paxil. 2022 Fluoxetine 15 mg 12/12 14mg 27/12 13mg jan 12mg feb 11mg mars 10mg, 9 mg 8,5 mg 7.6mg 7.0 mg 6,3 mg 5,6 mg 5,0 mg 4,5 mg 4,0 mg 3.6mg 3,2 mg 2,9 mg 2,6 mg 2,3 mg 2,0 mg 1.8 mg I am not a medical professional nor is this a medical advice. I only talk from my own experience. Link to comment
mustafa Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Hanna72 said: I just can’t beat the extreme anxiety that hasn’t left me for days now. I was going to go out, and practice being in a crowded place, but I just can’t leave my apartment 😔 It is my day off and I have wasted hours in trying to calm myself down. I am so frustrated and angry with myself. Why can’t I I get it right😫 I want to feel piece soooo bad. My dear hanna, Other friends are advising u not to force yourself to calm down and of course true. Being frustrated for not being calm would increase the anxiety and this should make u dont bear. You know that it comes and goes and sometimes bad and the others ok. Try to be quiet whem you are in pain until u cross. I think the relaxing videos will help u like the videos of forming materials if u know them. I wish you are ok every time❤️ Take care ❤️. i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify. --fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then) --sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then). --sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years. --my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019). symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization). Link to comment
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