Coronavirus, covid-19, covid-19 vaccine, & psychiatric drug tapering & withdrawal

[mva96]

Had first jab yesterday. Felt ok last night but today seem to have got a headache, fever and emotionally feeling worse. Was Pfizer jab.

[Hanna72]

Got my first Astra Zeneca shot on March the 5th

Flu like symptoms for 48 hours. 
Ten days later developed rash on my arm, so called “covid arm” It faded with in about 4 days. 
Got my second shot on the 20 of May without any symptoms.

 

[UnfoldingSky]

Wondering how many have had a, or both shots who had akathisia before which they had recovered from, and if anyone had it come back.  Also, is there anyone here who has a doctor who admitted they had had akathisia who had any info on the vaccine's potential to possibly make it reappear, who was advised one way or another to have it/not have it?  And anyone who has had tardive dyskinesia who recovered from it who has had the vaccine and if so did it come back?

 

And is there anyone who is dealing with autoimmune issues who has had it too, and if so did you get an AI flare. 

 

Thanks for any help!

[HopeToHeal]

I don’t have a TD diagnosis, but Lexapro left me twitchy in general (including one spot in front of my ear), which has improved very slowly from its peak about a year ago. I had absolutely zero resurgence in my SSRI-related symptoms following either of my doses of Pfizer. 

[UnfoldingSky]

6 hours ago, HopeToHeal said:

I don’t have a TD diagnosis, but Lexapro left me twitchy in general (including one spot in front of my ear), which has improved very slowly from its peak about a year ago. I had absolutely zero resurgence in my SSRI-related symptoms following either of my doses of Pfizer. 

 

Thank you for this Hope, good to hear the vaccinations went well.

 

[MindDrift]

Hi everyone.

 

I'm twelve weeks off Citalopram and, up until a week ago, the WD process was going the same way as the Olanzapine WD that I did last year. (which is well documented in my profile). I had my first Covid 19 jab last Monday & have had another massive wave of physical, and really difficult emotional, withdrawal that started a few days ago. Has anyone on here got any experience of the AstraZenica vaccine triggering waves of withdrawal symptoms? If so, is there any guidance on how it manifested, or how long it's going to have an effect? Thanks! x

[Rusty1]

Was vaccinated in April. I got the Moderna vaccine a couple weeks after a drop.  No side effects I would attribute to any interaction.  First dose had a sore arm, light headache, felt a little tired and spacey in head.  Seemed to be typical vaccine side effects. Cleared up after a couple days.

Second dose was going to be right around when I was planning to make the jump to 0.  After having no unusual side effects from my first dose decided to go through with my original plan.  Did the drop to 0 about a week and a half before my second dose.  My drop to 0 went good, felt slightly elevated withdrawal effects than my normal drop, but resolved after about a week.  Got the second dose and did not notice any interrelated side effects.  I did have a sore arm, quite a bad headache, fever, and body aches.  All side effects the nurse explained may happen.  I ended up taking Tylenol for the fever.  Headache and fever resolved after a day.  Sore arm and body aches took 2-3 days to resolve.

[LiaJ]

I'm just curious if anyone, and how many of you all here, have had the COVID vaccine and have NOT had a catastrophic reaction to it....

[Ibnabu]

Hi everyone,

I want to till you that i got my first vaccine on Sunday 5/23/2021 and the second on 6/13/2021. The vaccine was the Russian sputnik v. On the same day of the first jab i did not feel any thing. The next day i felt pain on the site of the vaccine and felt exhausted for two days. After that it was ok. The same was on the first day of the second jab. However, on the second day i felt wobbly, like my brain is not in coordination with my body and i still have this feeling. It is awful and weird symptom. I did not have any other symptom. I am almost five years of protracted withdrawal. I choose sputnik v over Pfizer because the latter is new type of vaccination and have not been studied for long term side effects while sputnik v is actually is an adenovirus vector vaccine which have been around for many years. Anyway i think the vaccine will affect your hypersensitive nervous system regardless of its type. 

[LiaJ]

I don't know what to do about the COVID vaccine. I know no one here can give medical advice. I am nervous about contracting COVID now that life has "normalized" again. I've been avoiding the vaccine because of the possibility for a resurgence in WD symptoms. I had a terrible reaction to iodinated contrast dye last November, and since then have had a lot of anxiety about receiving any medical treatments at all.

 

I also don't want to catch COVID and risk the possibility of being intubated. I have otherwise excellent health status (other than W/D), and am getting better, but still am almost unreasonably terrified of any pharmaceutical. I really don't know what to do in this situation, and of course, for the reasons we all know, I can't have a conversation with my doctor about this.

 

Just at a loss at what to do.

[composter]

On 6/19/2021 at 5:40 AM, LiaJ said:

I'm just curious if anyone, and how many of you all here, have had the COVID vaccine and have NOT had a catastrophic reaction to it....

Hi @LiaJ, I received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine in February and did not have a significant reaction to it beyond what is generally reported. I had tiredness after the first dose and flu-like body aches and headaches after the second dose which lasted 24 hrs.
 

I am tapering my AD very slowly and have been quite stable with no major withdrawal symptoms or kindling over the past 2 years.  
 

Based on a cursory review of some of the more recent responses on this thread, most people did not have a “catastrophic” reaction to the vaccine. I wonder if receiving a different vaccine that you have had before would assuage your fears, like the flu vaccine? See how you respond to that. I recognize your fear is related to hypersensitivity and not knowing how your body might respond. 

[HopeToHeal]

I had both doses of Pfizer and definitely did NOT have anything remotely near a catastrophic reaction. A bit of arm soreness with both doses and some very mild fatigue and headache with the second. Most people I know have had the vaccine by now and none of them had a catastrophic reaction either.

[Colonial]

 

I did find one of the older 12 page pdf's for Covid vaccine's in trials:

 

COVID-19-Vaccine-Candidates-and-Abortion-Derived-Cell-Lines.pdf (pcdn.co)

 

There are 8 currently being funded by operation WARP Speed, that was more than I realized.

 

 

 

[Jadenatalie]

On 6/16/2021 at 4:25 PM, MindDrift said:

Hi everyone.

 

I'm twelve weeks off Citalopram and, up until a week ago, the WD process was going the same way as the Olanzapine WD that I did last year. (which is well documented in my profile). I had my first Covid 19 jab last Monday & have had another massive wave of physical, and really difficult emotional, withdrawal that started a few days ago. Has anyone on here got any experience of the AstraZenica vaccine triggering waves of withdrawal symptoms? If so, is there any guidance on how it manifested, or how long it's going to have an effect? Thanks! x

Hi MindDrift,

 

I had my first Moderna vaccine on 14th June, i was already in a wave, but the wave seems to have worsened over the last 6 days, nausea, dizzy, headaches, brain fog, anxiety. its horrible, hope it settles soon! 

[manymoretodays]

On 6/22/2021 at 2:34 PM, LiaJ said:

I don't know what to do about the COVID vaccine. I know no one here can give medical advice. I am nervous about contracting COVID now that life has "normalized" again. I've been avoiding the vaccine because of the possibility for a resurgence in WD symptoms. I had a terrible reaction to iodinated contrast dye last November, and since then have had a lot of anxiety about receiving any medical treatments at all.

 

I also don't want to catch COVID and risk the possibility of being intubated. I have otherwise excellent health status (other than W/D), and am getting better, but still am almost unreasonably terrified of any pharmaceutical. I really don't know what to do in this situation, and of course, for the reasons we all know, I can't have a conversation with my doctor about this.

 

Just at a loss at what to do.

 

Hi LiaJ, @LiaJ

I had moved your previous post over here to topic, and it does look like composter responded to your first post already. 

 

I too, got the Pfizer 2 dose vaccine back in March without any catastrophic reactions or results.   After the second dose, I might have gotten briefly thrown, fatigue and mild emotional distress.  It certainly wasn't catastrophic.

 

You can google the vaccines and find out the ingredients too.

 

And perhaps, you'll get more reassurance on this topic/thread too. 

I'm just about 64 now, without pre-existing conditions, and faced my fears, went and got the vaccine, and obviously have lived to tell the tale.  It was important to me to do so.  And although a bit scary, I did okay.  Honest.

 

Oh sweetie, best, and on into making a decision, either way, and reducing the health anxiety.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

[LiaJ]

On 6/22/2021 at 6:47 PM, composter said:

Hi @LiaJ, I received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine in February and did not have a significant reaction to it beyond what is generally reported. I had tiredness after the first dose and flu-like body aches and headaches after the second dose which lasted 24 hrs.
 

I am tapering my AD very slowly and have been quite stable with no major withdrawal symptoms or kindling over the past 2 years.  
 

Based on a cursory review of some of the more recent responses on this thread, most people did not have a “catastrophic” reaction to the vaccine. I wonder if receiving a different vaccine that you have had before would assuage your fears, like the flu vaccine? See how you respond to that. I recognize your fear is related to hypersensitivity and not knowing how your body might respond. 

Hi Composter, 

 

Thank you for your reply  I'm glad to hear you are fully vaccinated at that you had no issues! I have never been vaccinated for the flu, I've never had the flu, either. I did, however, receive a tetanus shot in 2018 for splitting my leg open at a cross fit gym, down to the bone. That was early in W/D (8 months) for me, when I was still too weak to be doing intense exercise, but stupidly still trying to push through it. I had no issues with the tetanus shot that I recall. That is encouraging. At first I dismissed the COVID vaccine because I automatically assumed that it would create issues, but now that I'm hearing that people in W/D are getting vaccinated and not having setbacks, I am seriously considering it. These conversations do help. Thank you!

[LiaJ]

10 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

 

Hi LiaJ, @LiaJ

I had moved your previous post over here to topic, and it does look like composter responded to your first post already. 

 

I too, got the Pfizer 2 dose vaccine back in March without any catastrophic reactions or results.   After the second dose, I might have gotten briefly thrown, fatigue and mild emotional distress.  It certainly wasn't catastrophic.

 

You can google the vaccines and find out the ingredients too.

 

And perhaps, you'll get more reassurance on this topic/thread too. 

I'm just about 64 now, without pre-existing conditions, and faced my fears, went and got the vaccine, and obviously have lived to tell the tale.  It was important to me to do so.  And although a bit scary, I did okay.  Honest.

 

Oh sweetie, best, and on into making a decision, either way, and reducing the health anxiety.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

Hi MMT,

 

Thank you for your response and your encouraging words! It is so scary. I didn't expect this to be the outcome of the W/D experience, honestly, that now I would fear having a sinus infection that would require an antibiotic, or getting a vaccine, or any involvement with the medical industry and the extreme mistrust I've developed. It's pretty exhausting, and isolating, because no one else really gets it, other than people who have had the same experience. I really appreciate you responding so empathetically. My husband thinks I'm crazy. 

 

I'm glad to hear you had a good outcome and now are protected  

 

To facing our fears,

Lia

[LiaJ]

On 6/22/2021 at 8:52 PM, HopeToHeal said:

I had both doses of Pfizer and definitely did NOT have anything remotely near a catastrophic reaction. A bit of arm soreness with both doses and some very mild fatigue and headache with the second. Most people I know have had the vaccine by now and none of them had a catastrophic reaction either.

Hi HopeToHeal,

 

I'm glad you had a positive experience! When you say "most people I know", do you mean people you know who have had a W/D experience, or just "most people?" It's encouraging to hear this kind of feedback, it gives me more courage to just get it done.

[Rusty1]

4 hours ago, LiaJ said:

Hi MMT,

 

Thank you for your response and your encouraging words! It is so scary. I didn't expect this to be the outcome of the W/D experience, honestly, that now I would fear having a sinus infection that would require an antibiotic, or getting a vaccine, or any involvement with the medical industry and the extreme mistrust I've developed. It's pretty exhausting, and isolating, because no one else really gets it, other than people who have had the same experience. I really appreciate you responding so empathetically. My husband thinks I'm crazy. 

 

I'm glad to hear you had a good outcome and now are protected  

 

To facing our fears,

Lia

I had those same fears as well. I became hypersensitive to medications and supplements. Even Vitamin D! At my very worst I got a flu shot and had no issues.

When I got my Covid vaccine I certainly was in a spot of feeling much better and did not have any side effects related to their interaction.

 

I think for most of us the anxiety worrying about an interaction is worse than the shot itself. You know your body so definitely do what you are comfortable with, but I would try to take comfort in that it seems the majority here have done just fine getting the vaccine.

[WiggleIt]

So glad there is a whole thread about this. I have med-induced dystonia that never fully resolved and am terrified to get the vaccine should it worsen my dystonia. After all, if I never fully healed from med-induced dystonia in the first place, I'm so scared that it will get flared and stay flared forever if I get the COVID vaccine. I lived through this once, but I cannot live through dystonia that bad again. I can't. 

This whole thing has triggered my deep loathing of the doctor who messed me up with psych meds in the first place. I'd finally gotten to a place in my life where my days were no longer disrupted by seething hatred for her, where I could go without thinking about her anymore, but now that I have to be hesitant about something as important as a life-saving vaccine, all of my rage is spiked at how she ruined my life. 

I don't suppose anyone else here with med-induced dystonia has gotten the COVID vaccine?

Edited June 25, 2021 by WiggleIt

[WiggleIt]

On 2/10/2021 at 8:15 AM, savinggrace said:

Hello,

 

I had my first dose of the Moderna vaccine 4 days ago and have felt like I am in withdrawal ever since. I had minimal side effects (sore arm, mild headache, nausea) but I am waking every hour at night with shocks and nightmares and general muscle rigidity. Has anyone noticed this?  Research on this is minimal and generally unrecognized. It is recommended to “talk to your physician” which is a joke to me. I wonder if this will settle down as the vaccine takes hold. I am just worried it will de-rail me for a long time. I really want to follow through with both injections but it is going to be extremely difficult to get the second one if these symptoms haven’t abated. Anyone else had this difficulty?  I have w/d symptoms to EVERYTHING I try that is new to me. I cannot tolerate baby doses of supplements I need. I appreciate any input. Thank you. 
 

Grace

Hi @savinggrace - Did your muscle rigidity ever improve after the vaccine? Because I already have dystonia from psych meds, things like muscle rigidity from the vaccine TERRIFY me.

[WiggleIt]

On 6/15/2021 at 4:17 PM, UnfoldingSky said:

Wondering how many have had a, or both shots who had akathisia before which they had recovered from, and if anyone had it come back.  Also, is there anyone here who has a doctor who admitted they had had akathisia who had any info on the vaccine's potential to possibly make it reappear, who was advised one way or another to have it/not have it?  And anyone who has had tardive dyskinesia who recovered from it who has had the vaccine and if so did it come back?

 

And is there anyone who is dealing with autoimmune issues who has had it too, and if so did you get an AI flare. 

 

Thanks for any help!

Hi @UnfoldingSky! I've been gone for a long time but am back and have similar questions to yours. I, too, wonder about TD and the COVID vaccine. 

I hope you're well <3 

[Colonial]

On 6/22/2021 at 4:34 PM, LiaJ said:

I don't know what to do about the COVID vaccine. I know no one here can give medical advice. I am nervous about contracting COVID now that life has "normalized" again. I've been avoiding the vaccine because of the possibility for a resurgence in WD symptoms. I had a terrible reaction to iodinated contrast dye last November, and since then have had a lot of anxiety about receiving any medical treatments at all.

 

I also don't want to catch COVID and risk the possibility of being intubated. I have otherwise excellent health status (other than W/D), and am getting better, but still am almost unreasonably terrified of any pharmaceutical. I really don't know what to do in this situation, and of course, for the reasons we all know, I can't have a conversation with my doctor about this.

 

Hi Lia,

How is your problem coming along?

Have You been able to "research" any doctors online that share concerns about the shots?

 

[WiggleIt]

Have you all been following news about the worse new variant, Delta? It's even worse news and more contagious and more dangerous for unvaccinated folks, but, again, I still feel stuck and confused about the vaccine. If I didn't have dystonia, I think I'd get the vax, even if it threw me back into WD. It's the prospect of flaring the TD that I know I wouldn't be able to survive again. Sigh.

Anyone else got any insight? I appreciate all who've already posted here about their vaccine experience.

Am I correct in assuming that most on this SA site are still unvaxxed because of our WD complications?

Here are a couple of links about the Delta variant if anyone is curious:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/delta-who-urges-fully-vaccinated-people-to-continue-to-wear-masks-as-variant-spreads.html 

and

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01696-3 

[HopeToHeal]

On 6/24/2021 at 3:22 AM, LiaJ said:

Hi HopeToHeal,

 

I'm glad you had a positive experience! When you say "most people I know", do you mean people you know who have had a W/D experience, or just "most people?" It's encouraging to hear this kind of feedback, it gives me more courage to just get it done.

 

I did mean most people I know, although I do have a very close relative who went through substance withdrawal and detox (albeit alcohol, not SSRI) and he had no side effects or relapses at all from the vaccine. 

[Shep]

11 hours ago, WiggleIt said:

Am I correct in assuming that most on this SA site are still unvaxxed because of our WD complications?

 

No, I wouldn't assume that. Many of us (myself included) chose to get the vaccine. 

 

It's a personal choice and some people who are severely ill from withdrawal and are able to quarantine may opt not to get it, but I wouldn't assume that withdrawal in and of itself is a reason to avoid it. 

 

Many people dealing with withdrawal and those of us well on the way to healing have chosen the vaccine. I go into work every day, so to me, it was important to receive the vaccine. 

 

[mstimc]

1 minute ago, Shep said:

It's a personal choice and some people who are severely ill from withdrawal and are able to quarantine may opt not to get it, but I wouldn't assume that withdrawal in and of itself is a reason to avoid it. 

Same here.  Even when I was in the worst of my WD, I got an annual flu shot.  I think being really sick during that time would have made WD that much worse.  My wife and I got our J&J vaccines a few weeks ago and other than feeling a bit wrung out for a few hours, we were fine.  With the Delta virus making the rounds, I wouldn't take the chance of forgoing the vaccine unless there was a compelling medical reason. Again, just my opinion. 

[WiggleIt]

2 hours ago, Shep said:

 

No, I wouldn't assume that. Many of us (myself included) chose to get the vaccine. 

 

... I wouldn't assume that withdrawal in and of itself is a reason to avoid it. 

 

It's actually a huge relief to me to hear that many here are getting vaccinated, and I agree with you that WD isn't necessarily a reason to avoid it.

Like I wrote above, if I had survived WD without getting dystonia, I'd get the vaccine, even if it regressed me back into WD. I feel like I could survive most of WD again, but not a worsening of involuntary movements. Because I do still have med-induced dystonia, I've held back from the vaccine. Luckily, I am able to quarantine strictly, but Jesus... it'd be nice to leave my house every once in while without such complete terror of COVID  Plus, the new Delta variant is nothing to mess with.

 

[Orbet]

I’ve had both Pfizer shots.  The first one was March 26 and the second in mid May.  Not long after the first shot I noticed my anxiety was very high and I ended up in the hospital twice, once in April and then early May.  About two weeks after the second shot I was hospitalized again.   I can’t know for sure that the vaccine set me off, but I had a doctor visit today and he told me that it could have caused it.  That really throws me for a loop.  I can’t unvaccinate myself.  Some of my problems are certainly caused by meds.  It was only after my third hospitalization that the anhedonia and avolition have been so bad as to keep me in bed all day.  

Could it be the vaccine?  I’m so scared I’m permanently damaged.  I can only hope that time and getting off psych meds will help.

[Colonial]

On 6/27/2021 at 9:18 PM, WiggleIt said:

Am I correct in assuming that most on this SA site are still unvaxxed because of our WD complications?

 

I wouldn't make that assumption.

 

I suppose it depends what each of us mean by "WD Complications". Then there is the question of whether a person is only temporarily delaying the shot if their in a bad wave or if they are choosing to not get the shot altogether. Most doctors I know do not recommend getting a shot if you are actively sick but wait until Your feeling better.

 

The problem is many non wd people are reporting "side effects" that really are not all that much different to wd episodes so it's kind of hard to know if looking at the experiences of that group can extrapolate over to a wd person. And in truth, even person to person inside the wd group it's hard to extrapolate since different meds affect different parts of the brain and body. There's so much we don't know as to WHY only a subset of us deal with these issues to begin with. 

 

23 hours ago, Orbet said:

 About two weeks after the second shot I was hospitalized again.   I can’t know for sure that the vaccine set me off, but I had a doctor visit today and he told me that it could have caused it.  That really throws me for a loop.  I can’t unvaccinate myself.  Some of my problems are certainly caused by meds.  It was only after my third hospitalization that the anhedonia and avolition have been so bad as to keep me in bed all day.  

Could it be the vaccine?

 

Alot of people are being hospitalized, if even for a short amount of time, within the first few weeks of the second vaccine. Everything from neurological to physical issues: bells palsy, heart issues, etc.  If Your suffering worsening symptoms You may wish to consider holding where You are in Your taper until Your feeling better. You may not be able to decipher if the symptoms are a worsening of wd and which are vaccine proper of perhaps a combination.

 

I wouldn't let the fact that it could be the shot upset you too much if you can help it.  You simply can't tell and worrying about it will just make the symptoms worse.  As you say, You can't unvaccinate Yourself at this point. We have upticks for all sorts of things like anti-biotics, etc. You made a decision based on the facts You had at the time, that's really all any of Us can do. 

[mstimc]

4 minutes ago, Colonial said:

I wouldn't let the fact that it could be the shot upset you too much if you can help it.  You simply can't tell and worrying about it will just make the symptoms worse.

Yup! I also think this is a case of media-induced symptomology.  We keep hearing stories about side-effects or reactions in certain age groups or populations.  The power of suggestion is very strong.  After I got my jab, it was as if the anxious part of me kept saying "OK, there has to be some kind of reaction.  What'll mine be?!?"  Once I recognized that, my side effects really diminished. 

[Orbet]

That’s what’s so maddening about it.  I have no way to tell if it has anything to do with the shot other than the suspicious timing.  So, I’m trying to find information about whether other people have suffered psych symptoms.  I’ve been holding for about a month after being tried on 4 drugs at the end of May.  My last reduction was cutting Seroquel from 200 to 100 on my doctor’s advice.  More about him later.  I don’t know how to figure out what is causing my present symptoms.  It’s been a month and a half since my second shot.

[Colonial]

55 minutes ago, mstimc said:

After I got my jab, it was as if the anxious part of me kept saying "OK, there has to be some kind of reaction.  What'll mine be?!?"  Once I recognized that, my side effects really diminished. 

 

So wise, so wise.

 

And the reasons people are having reactions may NOT apply to everyone.

Were they on a certain medication?

Were they diabetic?

Can all the blood clotting be traced back to a certain high risk issue? Etc.

 

Second guessing Ourselves into symptoms after the fact is not productive.

If You have difficulty, frame it in a positive light of what it may have saved You FROM.

 

I guess the most important thing is, whether You decide to get the shot or not, is not to decide out of fear.

If You make Your decision rationally, then You can accept whatever outcome with less doubt and guilt.

 

 

[Orbet]

Anyway, my psychiatrist just might be down the rabbit hole.  All he wanted to talk about during our visit yesterday was antivaxxer talking points.  He said he was glad I was alive, because lots of people have died from the vaccine.  He went on about how the death rate isn’t enough to justify taking an experimental vaccine and he thinks the death toll is exaggerated by calling non covid deaths covid deaths.  He was really looking and sounding downright conspiratorial.  I suspect he may be a far right nut.  But, he told me my symptoms this spring could well be caused by the vaccine and it’s systemic effects.  

I’ve made a report to the government agency that keeps track of adverse vaccine events on his advice about a month ago, but hadn’t really thought much more about it until yesterday.

What am I to make of this?  

Is he right, is he a nut?  He thinks the powers that be are suppressing the truth about hydroxychloroquine, which he says is actually an effective treatment.  I think I need to find another doctor, though I have no idea how I’m going to do that.  Anyway, there’s at least one psychiatrist who thinks the vaccine could cause psych symptoms, for whatever that’s worth.

[WiggleIt]

23 minutes ago, Orbet said:

He went on about how the death rate isn’t enough to justify taking an experimental vaccine

After my psych med and WD experience, yes, I've become more cautious about meds, vaccines, etc., but I've done the hard work to apply research and rational thought so that I didn't become a ball of fear just because something derives from Western medicine.
 
What I've seen firsthand among the scores of vaccinated people I know and what I've slaved to read about vaccine reactions does not support any claims that this COVID vaccine poses any more danger than long-accepted, known-to-be-safe vaccines do. That doesn't mean there are NO reactions, but it does mean that I don't see anything that I feel justifies pausing the vaccine's disrtibution.

What does alarm me is the rate of contagion, death, and hospitalizations from COVID. Those numbers are not comparable to the flu. They are undeniably higher.

Is your doc against all meds all the time? 

Edited June 29, 2021 by WiggleIt

[Orbet]

4 minutes ago, WiggleIt said:

After my psych med and WD experience, yes, I've become more cautious about meds, vaccines, etc., but I've done the hard work to apply research and rational thought so that I didn't become a ball of fear just because something derives from Western medicine.
 
What I've seen firsthand among the scores of vaccinated people I know and what I've slaved to read about vaccine reactions does not support any claims that this COVID vaccine poses any more danger than long-accepted, known-to-be-safe vaccines do. That doesn't mean there are NO reactions, but it does mean that I don't see anything that I feel justifies pausing the vaccine's disrtibution.

What does alarm me is the rate of contagion, death, and hospitalizations from COVID. Those numbers are not comparable to the flu. They are undeniably higher.

Is your doc against all meds all the time? 

Oh, no, he has no problem prescribing psych meds in ways that seem crazy based on what I’m learning from this site.  He clearly doesn’t understand tapering or withdrawal, as he cut me from 200 to 100 mg seroquel in May and yesterday cut it again to 50 mg.  As far as the vaccine goes, I’m stuck with it.  I’m trying to find whatever information I can as to whether other people have experienced psych symptoms they relate to it and hopefully whether anything can be done about it, which I doubt.