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Dragon

Thanks for putting that so clearly @Onmyway. Am I right in thinking you still have to phone 111 to get advice before going to the emergency room, or are you supposed to just go now ?


citalopram 20mg 2008-2011

venlafaxine 37 1/2 mg rising to 225 mg 2011- June 2019

gabapentin 900mg, started around 2005, came off quickly Nov 2019.

valium 2mg when required for panic Sep-Nov 2019.

Ativan  1mg when required for anxiety 1st-30th Nov 2019.

Was addicted to valium in 1970s but came off it then, v.bad withdrawals.

Now

Lansoprazole 2/3 of 15mg.

Magnesium Citrate, 1/5 oz or 5 gms in water.

Fish oil 1000mg. upped to 2000mg Feb 2020.

 

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bunchesofoats

It's so interesting to read that others have felt they've actually gotten sick less while tapering. I've somewhat had the same experience. At least, I haven't been sick since mid November (4 months) while many around me have gone through at least one bad flu in that time period.


2005-2009 18mg concerta on and off

2009-2013 ritalin and wellbutrin on and off; 2010 nortryptyline & amitriptyline for back pain following car accident

2014 April - lamictal for 2 weeks until breaking out in hives and going to ER, dr bullied me into taking it

~ st. john's wort, rhodiola, lots of other supplements tried

2016 Nov - began citalopram (4 months)

2017 March  - reached dose of 30mg citalopram (11 months)

2018 Feb - began taper, ~2.5mg/month, cutting tablets (3 months)

2018 May - 20mg, tried ~17.5mg but symptoms too strong (11 months)

2018 Nov - brief stint trying wellbutrin again, stopped within a couple months

2019 April - began ~5%/month taper from 20mg using dissolve in water and measure with syringe method

2020 January - stopped lorazepam; 0.5mg lorazepam average 3x/month since began citalopram; at most 3x/week

2020 August - 10.45mg, 4%/month taper with .45% reductions every 5 days (approx)

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mstimc
5 minutes ago, bunchesofoats said:

It's so interesting to read that others have felt they've actually gotten sick less while tapering. I've somewhat had the same experience. At least, I haven't been sick since mid November (4 months) while many around me have gone through at least one bad flu in that time period.

Yeah, come to think of it when I was doing my  taper and WD I didn't call in sick very often.   Maybe my OCD made my immune system too afraid to let me get sick so I wouldn't get fired--LO!L 


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Heal95
2 hours ago, mstimc said:

Maybe my OCD made my immune system too afraid to let me get sick so I wouldn't get fired--LO!L 

Lol that made me chuckle 🤭 


Put on sertraline in January 2016 50 mg. 100mg Feb 16-May18 

may 18 50 mg some withdrawals 

august 18 rapid taper off. September 22 put on 50 mg due to withdrawals 

 2 weeks later up to 100mg. Bad reaction 

on 100 for 4 weeks. Then 50 for two weeks 25 for two weeks and 25 every other day for a week 

off since 8 December having waves and windows 

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Katy398

I too did not get sick and slept next to my partner with a bad flu episode, last year that lasted 2 and a half weeks. But I do know excepts to this rule. 

I’d just like to share that on March 20th at 8.50am (GMT)  , 180 radio stations across Europe played ‘You’ll never walk alone’ whenI listened to it with my partner we both bawled. It was such a beautiful moment of solidarity. 

Here is a little song about Fusilli pasta to cheer. I too think if nothing else in these frightening times of symptoms with covid 19 Isolation, we can sing.

 

 

Translation help available if needed🙂


 

Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey

Last dose end Dec 2018 

Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for  14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!!  

 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long.

On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx  5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day.

 

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Onmyway
On 3/19/2020 at 12:48 PM, Dragon said:

Thanks for putting that so clearly @Onmyway. Am I right in thinking you still have to phone 111 to get advice before going to the emergency room, or are you supposed to just go now ?

I don't know for sure. I also have heard reports that they don't immediately pick up the phone so you might have to just go to the emergency room. 

 

I personally would go directly to the A&E if

1) I was having trouble breathing or shortness of breath - i.e. get winded walking up the stairs (and it's a new thing), wheezing etc., hard to hold a conversation because I feel breathless, chest feels tight/painful,

 OR 

2) was coughing so hard that it was hurting me  and was exhausting me (I used to have asthma so I'm used to a lot of coughing but there comes a time when you can't take it any more)

AND

3) had sustained fever above 39-40 C. 

 

Note that this is not medical advice, this is just what I would do personally. Anything less I'd call 111.  Current advice is to take paracetamol/tylenol rather than NSAIDs like ibuprofen etc. as they might lower our immune response. 

 

At the A&E there were people short of breath because of panic attacks relating to covid-19. That's a distinct possibility for our community as well since WD can prompt panic attacks. Unfortunately going to the A&E actually increases your potential exposure to covid-19. So, I'd say that if you (generic you) haven't had any symptoms (fever, cough) and only suddenly have shortness of breath AND you are prone to panic attacks, it may be that it is a panic attack and not covid-19. But again, I am not a doctor and can't know your case so your best judgement. 


Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg ,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months (don't remember dates), trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up), occasionally did this in difficult times 

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax/day, then 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, April  14 , 2019 - citalopram 1.8 mg (liquid), May 8, 2019 - citalopram 1.6 mg (liquid),  July 27, 2019 - citalopram 1.5 mg (liquid),  August 15, 2019 - citalopram 1.35 (liquid)

 

 supplements:  melatonin 1 mg  

 

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anytriptaline

Hopefully everyone can manage their symptoms during this crisis

I'm working remotely 100% and it's helping

 

I was able to get a good three month supply of my meds from a pharma rep this Friday but I worry about the future, they told me their were about to stop the factory due to the quarantine (this is Mexico by the way).

 

Thanks to the tapering I'm in a great position since the most troubling med I take is at almost half of my doctors prescribed dose so I'm good for half a year. I will check in May if I have to ration the other med (not scared about it, done it before and feel completely fine)


2007-2018 25mg-50mg Amitriptyline, 4mg Perphenazine, 500mg Valproic Acid

Nov 2018-February 2019 quetiapine, mirtazapine, pregabaline, estazolam, agomelatine, levomepromazine, trazodone, sulpiride

March 2019 - 37.5mg Amitriptyline, 4mg Perphenazine, waiting to tapper off slowly

September 2019 - Started tapering. 6.77mg Amitriptyline, 4mg Perphenazine (as of September 5 2020)

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ShiningLight
On 3/13/2020 at 10:41 PM, Stormstrong said:

 

This is quite worrying. Why would drug supplies become unstable? Would this include psychotropics??

 

Interruptions in the supply chain. A lot of the drug ingredients come from China and are then further manufactured in other countries. For example, India... [which is as it were, where my gabapentin comes from. 😬] If everybody in India is ill, making my gabapentin is not going to be on the top of their priority list. [I was very happy to hear about the measures they are taking to prevent spread!!!]

 

Also, there are a number of drug shortages of drugs that are used in critically ill and hospitalized patients because there are so many of those in the world now. Countries can also close their borders and keep their drugs for themselves. I understand that this may be happening with some antibiotics currently, which is a frightening thought. 

 

You can check the FDA drug shortage list here. It allows you to search by the name of your drug. Keep in mind that they appear to be listed by manufacturer, so it could only be one manufacturer that is affected and not others. In other words, it's a little confusing to interpret.

 

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/drugshortages/default.cfm

 

 


Now: Gabapentin 31 mg 4x/day =124 mg, 150 mg Zoloft am since 2004, 50 mg Trazodone bedtime.  Daily drug burden decreased from 2050 mg to 324 mg 🐢🐢

2020, Gabapentin each dose 4x/day: Aug 20 31 mg, Aug 18, 33 mg, July 29, 35 mg, July 23 38 mg, July 22 40 mg Jun 24 42 mg, Jun 15 44 mg, Jun 9 48 mg, May 22 50 mg, May 14 54 mg, May 7 56 mg, Apr 16 58 mg, Mar 28 60 mg, Mar 18 62 mg. Feb 26 64 mg. Feb 19, 66 mg. Jan 23, 70 mg.

2019 Dec 19, 72 mg. Nov 14 ,76 mg. Aug 8, 80 mg. Aug 6, 85 mg. Jul 26, 90 mg. Jul 11, 95 mg.

Jul 16 trazodone from 100 to 50 mg.

Jun 17-July 10 Slowly changed gab fr pill to liquid at same dose 100 mg 4x/d.

Apr 24 Stopped klon!!! 🌞 Apr 4  Decreased gaba to 400 mg (100 mg 4x/day)-Apr 4, 2019   0.25 klon

March 11  Klonopin .5 mg twice daily, varied dose til Apr 15. Started Klon fast taper 25%, short use

Mar 16, 450 mg gaba 3x/day cut 600 mg--not exact!--updose after learning w/d

Feb 20, 1800 mg gabapentin; MD taper; off 3 days=mvt disorder & autonomic instability. July 2018 temazepam 15 mg 1-2; prn several x/wk til Jan/Feb 2019 when cold turkey, flu illness for months

July 2018 started gabapentin 100 3x/day; titrated up to 1800 mg (600 3x/day)

Buspar, I forget how much, 2 pills a day Jan 2017-July 2018 cold turkey

*I speak from my experience. Nothing I say is medical advice. I'm not a doctor.

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Sleepan

Hi.  I went out often early March:  I saw a doctor twice (to get a renewal of my 3-month Amitriptyline prescription), had a major eye test (required by same doctor) and went to get enough food at the grocer.  6 days ago, I started to feel flu symptoms i.e. runny nose, stronger headache, muscle ache, some diarrhea, tiredness, but no fever or respiratory symptoms.  I read that old people over 70 (like me) have a lower body temperature varying from 94F to 97F compared to 98F normal for those younger.  99F is fever for an older person.  I'm watchful but not too worried.  I drink a vegetable juice almost every day, eat vegetables during my 1-meal per day, and I added supplements such as Echinacea and Ceylon Cinnamon to fight infection of all kinds.  Apart my CT experience and reinstatement, I do not have other illnesses.  I had urine and blood tests and only had some B-12 deficiency.  I'm overall healthy for 72.  Even my eyes are healthy.  I'll update if I ever get respiratory symptoms which often appear suddenly on the 6th day, or even 2 weeks for others.

 

Media are responsible for frightening people around the world for a very minor virus, so much that countries' leaders felt they had to lock down, with approval and delight from CDC and WHO who can do a study in depth of a virus.  However, since most victims are over 70 and have other illnesses, the lock down should have been only for those people and not taking hostage whole populations under 70.  I hope sanity will prevail soon.  The lockdown of countries will bring much worse illnesses than coronavirus.  I'm praying this madness ceases soon.  The cure is worse than the illness is now a war cry of many.  I was reading this morning an article titled "A cure worse than the Disease" by BP. Sanborn written March 24, 2020, in Wordpress, that observed that the middle age Black Death killed some 30% of world population.  Canada where I live, has daily updates that show the illness is not progressing anymore.  Even in Italy, it is reaching a plateau.  We'll certainly be freed of this cure that is worse than the disease soon.  

 

1989  Amitriptyline 25mg

2019  Amitriptyline 2x10mg Jan 

2019  Stopped Amitriptyline Cold Turkey Oct

2019  Reinstatement 25mg on Dec 21 

2019 10mg - 15mg pm on Dec 30

2020 7.5mg am and 15mg pm on Jan 20 

2020  Titration method started Jan 21

2020 Tapered 7.5am started March 21

2020 Stabilized 4am and 15mg Aug 1st

 

Alternating Colostrum Gold, Zinc, Tonic Water, Vitamin C. Started sleeping almost full week in 10th week of reinstatement.

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mstimc
Posted (edited)

@Sleepan  I hope you're feeling better soon!  And I truly hope you're right about the virus being gone soon, but in my home state of California there's no sign that's happening.   In LA County,  ICU beds are at 90% capacity with coronavirus and other acute patients and the number of virus patients in respiratory distress is rising daily.  A teenage patient with no underlying problems died yesterday.  That's the problem; the illness may be minor for 80% of the people who catch it, but for that 20% it can get dicey, and if even a fraction of those need intensive care at the same time, hospitals will be overwhelmed.  The ease of transmission and incidence of serious illness are much higher than with the usual flu.

 

In the US, if the government had got in front of it and started testing people arriving from infected areas , they could have identified victims and contained the spread by targeted isolation.  Despite the happy talk from the administration,  testing is still haphazard and way behind the curve.  

 

I, too, refuse to panic.  This isn't the Black Death by any stretch of the imagination and over the next several weeks I certainly hope things get better.  I'm 59 and in good health as well, so if I were to catch it, I'd likely weather it well.  But the population here in Portugal leans older and I have no intention of giving it to anyone who wouldn't do as well.   If a few weeks of isolation is the price we have to pay, I have no problem with that.

 

Here's a good article for perspective: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/opinions/coronavirus-overcome-past-pandemics-john-avlon-opinion/index.html

 

Edited by mstimc

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Sleepan
3 hours ago, mstimc said:

a few weeks of isolation is the price we have to pay, I have no problem with that.

 

Here's a good article for perspective

Thank you mstimc for  your good wishes and for the article about previous pandemics.  I read few days ago that it was proven aspirin given in large doses to those with spanish flu that killed them and not so much the flu.  I read somewhere else that those ill with coronavirus took aspirin and ibuprofrens (i.e. Tylenol) and it aggravated the symptoms.  I found another article stating to stay away from ibuprofen and aspirin if you have the coronavirus. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-ibuprofen.html  I have an headache since I reinstated, but I also read same aspirin and Tylenon do not interact well with antidepressants such as Amitriptyline, so I take none since that time.

 

I read that you will soon move back to U.S.A. into a nice home you inherited.  That's a very nice turn of fortune.  I'm very happy for you and your family, mstimc. ☺️


1989  Amitriptyline 25mg

2019  Amitriptyline 2x10mg Jan 

2019  Stopped Amitriptyline Cold Turkey Oct

2019  Reinstatement 25mg on Dec 21 

2019 10mg - 15mg pm on Dec 30

2020 7.5mg am and 15mg pm on Jan 20 

2020  Titration method started Jan 21

2020 Tapered 7.5am started March 21

2020 Stabilized 4am and 15mg Aug 1st

 

Alternating Colostrum Gold, Zinc, Tonic Water, Vitamin C. Started sleeping almost full week in 10th week of reinstatement.

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mstimc
2 minutes ago, Sleepan said:

I read that you will soon move back to U.S.A. into a nice home you inherited.  That's a very nice turn of fortune.  I'm very happy for you and your family, mstimc. ☺️

 

 

Thanks!  We'll see about moving back....we're kind of stuck for the foreseeable future!😷


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Colonial

 

Hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug now being given to Covid-19 patients in NY hospitals since midnight, has 58 major drugs interactions, including:

Citalopram, Escitalopram and Haloperodol

 

It has 266 moderate warnings including Fluoxetine .

 

One person has already died by self administering this med out of their supply of Fish tank medications.

I'm not sure if it was because it interacted fatally with a med He was already on.

 

https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/hydroxychloroquine,plaquenil-index.html

 


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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mstimc
5 minutes ago, Colonial said:

 

One person has already died by self administering this med out of their supply of Fish tank medications.

I'm not sure if it was because it interacted fatally with a med He was already on.

 

As I've read on many news sites, this stuff isn't a cure-all by any means, despite the hype from the current administration.   It's an old drug with a ton of possible side effects and has to be administered in a precise dose according to the specific patient and his/her symptoms.  And there lieth the problem; since its never been approved (or proven) to control COVID-19 or any other coronavirus, doctors aren't sure what a proper dose is, if there is one. 


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Colonial

What it just shows me, again, is how many other drugs these Psych meds interact with, and why its dangerous to just leave people on them on them for life.

If You have someone on Citalopram and never weaned them off it when you should have, and now they have Covid-19, they risk dying of the drug interaction with the med that "might" have saved their lives. Again, another death based more on the psych med than the other illness.


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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mstimc
1 minute ago, Colonial said:

What it just shows me, again, is how many other drugs these Psych meds interact with, and why its dangerous to just leave people on them on them for life.

If You have someone on Citalopram and never weaned them off it when you should have, and now they have Covid-19, they risk dying of the drug interaction with the med that "might" have saved their lives. Again, another death based more on the psych med than the other illness.

Agreed.  The real effect of SSRI's and benzos isn't as well understood as the pharmaceutical companies would like us to think.  I was on Paxil for almost seven years, and I since it was a daily habit, I know there were a few times I just forgot to tell a doctor I was taking it.  I know I took other prescriptions and was put under for deviated septum surgery during that time. I was lucky it didn't cause me any problems. 


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Colonial

Yes, Paxil has 94 Major drug interactions.

 

So when My Doctor said why would you want to stop it, I said: "Why would You keep me on something that isn't working, and would Prohibit Me from using another treatment in the future that, I might need?"


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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1 minute ago, Colonial said:

Yes, Paxil has 94 Major drug interactions.

94?!?  After all this time, I forgot!! 😱


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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mstimc

Interesting article from today's LA Times some may find helpful or interesting...

 

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-25/managing-anxiety-disorder-in-coronavirus-pandemic


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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drugged
15 hours ago, Colonial said:

One person has already died by self administering this med out of their supply of Fish tank medications.

I'm not sure if it was because it interacted fatally with a med He was already on

The compound used to eliminate parasites from fish tanks is different from the drug approved for use against malaria.  It's quite toxic and was never meant to be ingested by humans.  Unfortunately, I think the label for the tank cleaner uses the same or a very similar name to the medication and this couple thought it was the same thing.


1994  Venlafaxine XR 300mg, 2003 tapered, 2004 off briefly back to 37.5 then 75mg, held, June 2019 up to  150mg, Aug.12 tapered down to 112.5mgs, Oct. 21, 2019 96mg;  Dec. 8, 2019  90mg, Jan. 8 2020 81mg, Feb. 4, 75mg;

2003/2004? Diazepam 10mg/bedtime

2013 Lyrica 300mg to 25mg; April 6, 2020 17mg; April 28, <5mg; May 7, 2020 Lyrica 0 mg!

2013 Tramadol 50mg tablets, 200mg/day divided

2005? Trazodone 50mg bedtime, Feb. 12, 2020 40mg, March 7, 25mg

2009? Zolpidem 5mg at bedtime. Nov. 9, 2019 Zolpidem 0 mg! 

1990? Omeprazole 20mg in morning.

2010? Levothyroxine 75mcg morning

2011? Liothyronine 5mcg morning

1999? Buspirone 30mg twice a day  August 2019 15mg once a day,  Oct.21, 2019 2.5mg evening  Oct. 25, 2019 Buspirone 0 mg!

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@mstimc I can't assess the article.  They want $$$ 🤨

Could you copy and paste a small portion of what you thought was relevant?

Not asking to copy the entire article, that would be a waste of Bandwith, maybe just some highlights if You get a chance.

OR If anyone saw this same article from a "free" site, the link from there?

 


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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1 hour ago, Colonial said:

@mstimc I can't assess the article.  They want $$$ 🤨

Could you copy and paste a small portion of what you thought was relevant?

Not asking to copy the entire article, that would be a waste of Bandwith, maybe just some highlights if You get a chance.

OR If anyone saw this same article from a "free" site, the link from there?

 

Hi Colinial

 

Let me see if I can find a free link....capitalism comes first! LOL!


Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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Dr. Dave Price from an hospital in NYC who take care only of CORV19 patients tell people how to take care of your family.  I have some symptoms of CORV19, but as long as I do not get breathless going to the washroom, I do not have to go to hospital emergency.  Great answers in depth shared by this doctor.   https://vimeo.com/399733860


1989  Amitriptyline 25mg

2019  Amitriptyline 2x10mg Jan 

2019  Stopped Amitriptyline Cold Turkey Oct

2019  Reinstatement 25mg on Dec 21 

2019 10mg - 15mg pm on Dec 30

2020 7.5mg am and 15mg pm on Jan 20 

2020  Titration method started Jan 21

2020 Tapered 7.5am started March 21

2020 Stabilized 4am and 15mg Aug 1st

 

Alternating Colostrum Gold, Zinc, Tonic Water, Vitamin C. Started sleeping almost full week in 10th week of reinstatement.

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For those worried about possible ways to help kill any infection, virus that they do get, I've had amazing success with raw garlic in keeping me alive during my tapering. I was thrown on Hydrocortisone (a corticosteroid known for lowering the immune system) while in Xanax c/t wd and was on it for about 3-4 years. During the time on, I had a number of infections thanks to the lowered immunity that caused severe cellulitis in my face/ear. I mean swollen to look like I had some kind of disease. Horribly sick feeling. When one of those would start and ramp up, I took 6-8 and upwards of 12 raw garlic cloves a day spread thru the day until the infection was gone. The garlic killed the cellulitis/blood infection in less than 3 days and I was back to normal in about a week. Saved my life a few times and now that I'm off the steroid, I haven't and don't get them anymore. :) Raw garlic has also helped kill flus/colds in a very short day or two. The stuff has been a lifesaver for me.

 

Thought I'd share.


Took Accutane in 2007 at age 19 and a severe reaction to it threw me into Psychiatry's dirty hands. Suffered through a number of c/t's, rapid tapers, drug switches, reinstatements before finally figuring out what was happening to me in 2012 after checking out of psych hospital with a prescription for Ativan and Prozac. (Went in because was unknowingly in Xanax c/t wd and dying at the time from it).

 

May 2016 - Last dose of Valium after 2 year long taper from 15mg

June 2017- Last dose of the corticosteroid Hydrocortisone after taper

July 2019- Last dose of Prozac after 2 year long taper from 30mg

 

Was on Accutane, Lexapro, Celexa, Xanax, Ativan, Prozac, Hydrocorisone, Valium, and thyroid meds when none of them were needed. Still recovering to this day and hope to be healed in the coming months, but taking it one day at a time.

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On 3/25/2020 at 9:24 AM, Sleepan said:

Media are responsible for frightening people around the world for a very minor virus, so much that countries' leaders felt they had to lock down, with approval and delight from CDC and WHO who can do a study in depth of a virus.  However, since most victims are over 70 and have other illnesses, the lock down should have been only for those people and not taking hostage whole populations under 70.  I hope sanity will prevail soon.  The lockdown of countries will bring much worse illnesses than coronavirus.  I'm praying this madness ceases soon.  The cure is worse than the illness is now a war cry of many.  I was reading this morning an article titled "A cure worse than the Disease" by BP. Sanborn written March 24, 2020, in Wordpress, that observed that the middle age Black Death killed some 30% of world population.  Canada where I live, has daily updates that show the illness is not progressing anymore.  Even in Italy, it is reaching a plateau.  We'll certainly be freed of this cure that is worse than the disease soon.  

I just saw this and I am going to hold myself to not use swearwords. Ommmmm... 

Note: This has graphic descriptions of the situation in Europe and you might want to stop reading if you are worried it might trigger you. But I feel like it is necessary to take this seriously. That is the only reason that they are there. So that we start taking this seriously. 

 

TRIGGER WARNING!

 

I live in Europe and have friends who work in ERs in Spain (recruited from other specialties such as neurology) and this is not a joke, this is not overblown, this is absolutely terrifying. In Madrid they converted an ice rink into a place to store the dead bodies because the crematoriums can't handle them. People are dying and being buried without being able to say goodbye to their loved ones. Ventilators are rationed often not given to older patients with informal rules in various hospitals of age 65/70 and above disadvantaged.  *ALL* these measures of social distancing are absolutely necessary. And we were late in implementing them. And this is NOT *like* THE FLU. Have you ever heard of ventilator shortages on this scale with the flu in a developed country?  

 

Yes, the economics of it are terrifying and will have a long term impact. Yes, it will hurt some people more than others. But we can implement policies to not have that happen and support the economy. The alternative is much much much worse. 

 

 


Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg ,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months (don't remember dates), trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up), occasionally did this in difficult times 

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax/day, then 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, April  14 , 2019 - citalopram 1.8 mg (liquid), May 8, 2019 - citalopram 1.6 mg (liquid),  July 27, 2019 - citalopram 1.5 mg (liquid),  August 15, 2019 - citalopram 1.35 (liquid)

 

 supplements:  melatonin 1 mg  

 

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Shep

From the Rxisk.org site, dated April 2: 

 

Medications Compromising Covid Infections

 

A number of psychiatric drugs are included in this list, so please quarantine as much as possible, wash your hands, and stay safe. 


Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Colonial

I was just coming to post that article, thanks Shep! 😊

 

I thought this was interesting, aren't these the 2 drugs their "touting" as wanting to give people?

 

"Azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine also prolong Q-T intervals and the addition of these drugs to prior treatment may accordingly cause problems."


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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Altostrata

I'll bet those drugs have some pretty significant side effects and if they work, which is doubtful, it will be only a last-resort treatment.


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Colonial

And I don't know how they could adjudicate effectiveness of any data in this type of Emergency.

 

We lost another 200 Precious Souls again here in New Jersey, for a total of 846.

45%,  389 Souls over the age of 80

32%,  268 Souls between the ages of 65 and 79

 

There is no possible way with Patients so elderly to begin with, so many other Co Morbidities and Drug Uses, How any "Data" could be considered reliable for Extrapolation to the general public.


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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UnfoldingSky

I don't know if it's the same kind of drug but I recall reading a long time ago there is a group in the world who were protesting some kind of malaria drug as they'd been badly hurt by it.  Usually they were veterans who were as much as forced to take it.  And someone I used to know was hurt by a malaria drug too.


I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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8 hours ago, UnfoldingSky said:

I don't know if it's the same kind of drug but I recall reading a long time ago there is a group in the world who were protesting some kind of malaria drug as they'd been badly hurt by it.  Usually they were veterans who were as much as forced to take it.  And someone I used to know was hurt by a malaria drug too.

 

It may have been mefloquine. 

 

Malaria drug causes brain damage that mimics PTSD: case study

 

That same website recently put out an article raising concerns about the use of these kinds of drugs:

 

Drug Touted as COVID-19 Treatment Has Troubling Side Effects, Experts Say

 

 


Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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drugged

With all the damage my brain and body has suffered due to both the cocktail of psych drugs I'm on and the repeated prescriptions of cipro I was given for UTIs over the years, I don't think I'll be willing to accept any drug offered as treatment for covid-19 should I get the virus.  As best as I can determine there is one antibiotic I can safely(?) take for opportunistic bacterial infections, amoxicillin.  Frankly, I don't know that I'd even be willing to be hospitalized if I were to become seriously ill, assuming I have any say over it.

 

I'm continuing with my tapering.  It seems like the best option for looking after my physical health at this time.   


1994  Venlafaxine XR 300mg, 2003 tapered, 2004 off briefly back to 37.5 then 75mg, held, June 2019 up to  150mg, Aug.12 tapered down to 112.5mgs, Oct. 21, 2019 96mg;  Dec. 8, 2019  90mg, Jan. 8 2020 81mg, Feb. 4, 75mg;

2003/2004? Diazepam 10mg/bedtime

2013 Lyrica 300mg to 25mg; April 6, 2020 17mg; April 28, <5mg; May 7, 2020 Lyrica 0 mg!

2013 Tramadol 50mg tablets, 200mg/day divided

2005? Trazodone 50mg bedtime, Feb. 12, 2020 40mg, March 7, 25mg

2009? Zolpidem 5mg at bedtime. Nov. 9, 2019 Zolpidem 0 mg! 

1990? Omeprazole 20mg in morning.

2010? Levothyroxine 75mcg morning

2011? Liothyronine 5mcg morning

1999? Buspirone 30mg twice a day  August 2019 15mg once a day,  Oct.21, 2019 2.5mg evening  Oct. 25, 2019 Buspirone 0 mg!

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UnfoldingSky
17 hours ago, Shep said:

 

It may have been mefloquine. 

 

Malaria drug causes brain damage that mimics PTSD: case study

 

That same website recently put out an article raising concerns about the use of these kinds of drugs:

 

Drug Touted as COVID-19 Treatment Has Troubling Side Effects, Experts Say

 

 

 

Thank you for posting this Shep.  I had not heard of the brain injury risk, scary. 


I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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Onmyway

I know that we have all been hurt by drugs but I would strongly advise that if hospitaized, please take these drugs. There is some talk about hydroxycholorquine being used as prophylaxis but that is for post exposure prophylaxis for medical personnel. That I would avoid and instead practice social distancing as much as I can. Other than that they are not given unless you are in hospital.

 

If you are in hospital with covid-19 statistics show that you have only a 50% chance of surviving it. If you are in ICU on a ventilator your chance of surviving is 15%. This can become a horrible disease that is often deadly so given the chance, I'd take whatever drugs there are that can help. Yes, these drugs have side effects but QT prolongation is fairly rare with ADs and not immediately life threatening and other side effects for short term treatment are also fairly rare with hydroxychloroquine (there are cases of blindness with long term exposure). I would not advise anyone to take them prophylactically ever or if you have a mild disease but it's important not to throw the baby with the bathwater. Covid-19 can be a very deadly disease. 


Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg ,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months (don't remember dates), trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up), occasionally did this in difficult times 

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax/day, then 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, April  14 , 2019 - citalopram 1.8 mg (liquid), May 8, 2019 - citalopram 1.6 mg (liquid),  July 27, 2019 - citalopram 1.5 mg (liquid),  August 15, 2019 - citalopram 1.35 (liquid)

 

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16 hours ago, drugged said:

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Colonial
22 minutes ago, Onmyway said:

Covid-19 can be a very deadly disease. 

 

True, but the jury is out as to why.

 

If, as the original articles indicate, the reason so many persons lungs are giving out is a combination of the virus and it's interacting with their Current drug regime,  It's questionable what throwing more drugs linked to concurrent morbidities could possibly do.

 

Of course, we will be told all the usual risk factors, age, heart lung, diabetes, but those are not Covid related.

 

My personal guess?  It will never be released the true relationship between the deaths and percentage relationship of people being on the list of "high risk" medications.

 

But I have $20.00 that for every death under age 50 years of age, the percentage of those who died medicated with 1 or more of the risk drugs will out number those who died not taking one of them  on that list by 4 to 1.

 

But that's assuming we even still have 20% of the population NOT medicated by at least something on that list to begin with, and with the frightening way PCP's are handing out these meds like candy, it's a possibility we don't.  

 

 


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

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