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Superwoman
On 4/13/2020 at 5:32 AM, Dragon said:

 

 

Do you have cases in your area of the US

Yes, my neighbor has corona.  He is in the hospital with it and tested positive.  He is off the ventilator now, but will need dialysis.  Apparently Corona can effect the kidneys.  I did not know that.  We have not been exposed to him.  There are around 10  Known cases in my county.  In actuality the number is much higher b/c there is very limited testing.  Only the very sick and health care workers are able to get tested. A county 1 hr from where I live has the most confirmed cases in the state at 1000 cases.  

I think I would also be in a higher risk category because I have autoimmune disorders and my doctor told me that my immune system is not functioning properly.  I also have numerous seasonal and food allergies.  My doctor (who specializes in allergies) told me that when the body is distracted by allergies, it becomes difficult to fight off pathogens.  This pertains to lots of us here b/c allergies and sensitivities are so common in WD.  I had numerous allergies before WD.  WD has made it even worse.  My temperature was finally improving a little bit.  I had 5 days where it was over 98.6 but still under a 100.  I was feeling hopeful, but then it went up too 100.6F.  Now it seems to be higher again.  Yesterday, I had horrible allergies after going for a walk.  I wonder if my body is mis-directed fighting allergies and this is making it harder for me to recover?

 

I will ask my doctor if WD effects the immune system warmer I have an appointment with my doctor again.  

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Colonial

 

What a Shock...

"What do You have to loose" people said...

 

"About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival. Hydroxychloroquine made no difference in the need for a breathing machine, either. Researchers did not track side effects, but noted hints that hydroxychloroquine might have damaged other organs. The drug has long been known to have potentially serious side effects, including altering the heartbeat in a way that could lead to sudden death. Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a hydroxychloroquine study after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested."

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/more-deaths-no-benefit-from-malaria-drug-in-va-virus-study/ar-BB12Zbz3?ocid=wispr

 

 

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Superwoman
On 3/13/2020 at 4:19 AM, sunnysideup69 said:

I have been wondering whether, as a person in WD, I am more vulnerable to infection? We know these drugs can affect every system in the body and that includes the immune system.

I have an answer.  I asked my doctor this question.  He does not think that people are more vulnerable to infection when in withdrawal from antidepressants.  He does not think that we would be more vulnerable to Corona b/c of withdrawal.  This is a big relief.   My doctor seems to be knowledgeable about AD withdrawal, so I do think he knows what he is talking about.  
 

I also asked the doctor if having autoimmune disorders makes you more vulnerable to catching Corona or getting really sick with it.  I have some autoimmune disorders and was worried.  He said no, it does not make you any more vulnerable unless you are on immune suppressant drugs.  This may not relate to WD.  But I am sure that there are others here with autoimmune disorders who were wondering this.   
 

My last doctor told me that allergies can make you vulnerable to infections.  So I asked my doctor if treating the allergies with a natural anti-histimine would improve the immune system and make it easier to fight off pathogens.  He said no.  Taking an antihistamine would only alleviate allergy symptoms.   But it would not help the immune system or make it easier to fight off pathogens.  I know a lot of people have allergy problems in W/D so I thought people might want to know.  

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Onmyway

An interesting study that speculates that melatonin might help in treating Covid-19. Makes a statement that "melatonin limits virus related diseases." I wonder whether it would account for the lower rate of infections people have reported in WD as many of us take melatonin. 

 

Warning: Please don't go taking melatonin for preventing Covid-19. It's just an interesting speculation and the authors note as much. 

 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320520303313

 

There is a very interesting paper that predicts using network theory and ML which drugs may be helpful for Covid-19 and melatonin and vitamin C are also there but so are a number of other drugs so it doesn't really mean that much. List of drugs "predicted" to be effective against Covid-19. 

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.07229.pdf

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Colonial

@Onmyway Thank you for sharing that, its very interesting some of the drugs on that list, like levothyroxine and metformin.

 

1 hour ago, Superwoman said:

He said no, it does not make you any more vulnerable unless you are on immune suppressant drugs.

 

My Doctor has me listed as "Assumed Positive", based on a host of data only available to the doctors, my symptoms and the fact He's already had it too.

Interestingly, I started having Anaphylactic shock type reactions about 24 hours before I ended up in the E.R., which was on the 8th day of symptoms.

I've never had an auto immune response to a Virus before.

 

It's been like, I got sick, my body tried to fight it off for 8 days, and then got overwhelmed and turned on itself and started to attack itself.  It was mild to moderate, face going numb, throat swelling, etc., so that someone who never dealt with Anaphylaxis might not have know what that symptom was, but having almost died from it in the past I knew exactly what it was.  It still comes and goes but not as bad as a week ago, but after that I learned about the "cytokine storm,"  issue, which seems to happen around day 7,right around the time I started with the Anaphylactic issues. 

 

The good news is it does NOT seem, at least for Me, to have brought back anything I would necessarily say was definitely WD Related.  I had some cognitive issues but that got a lot better after the I.V. so that was probably dehydration related.  And even if you do get a symptom that WD "like", it doesn't mean you would not have gotten that symptom anyway.  There are only so many different ways Our body can "express" itself when it's in distress, so I wouldn't be surprised if NON WD people aren't also experiencing symptoms that "We" have had in WD.  They call it the "Paxil FLU" For a reason.  

 

He said the best thing for to do, is like what @Onmyway  and others has been advocating, stay calm, don't let your CNS get out of hand with "self induced" anxiety and go slow with anything.  

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/828091467/why-some-covid-19-patients-crash-the-bodys-immune-system-might-be-to-blame

 

 

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Onmyway
6 hours ago, Colonial said:

@Onmyway Thank you for sharing that, its very interesting some of the drugs on that list, like levothyroxine and metformin.

 

 

My Doctor has me listed as "Assumed Positive", based on a host of data only available to the doctors, my symptoms and the fact He's already had it too.

Interestingly, I started having Anaphylactic shock type reactions about 24 hours before I ended up in the E.R., which was on the 8th day of symptoms.

I've never had an auto immune response to a Virus before.

 

It's been like, I got sick, my body tried to fight it off for 8 days, and then got overwhelmed and turned on itself and started to attack itself.  It was mild to moderate, face going numb, throat swelling, etc., so that someone who never dealt with Anaphylaxis might not have know what that symptom was, but having almost died from it in the past I knew exactly what it was.  It still comes and goes but not as bad as a week ago, but after that I learned about the "cytokine storm,"  issue, which seems to happen around day 7,right around the time I started with the Anaphylactic issues. 

 

The good news is it does NOT seem, at least for Me, to have brought back anything I would necessarily say was definitely WD Related.  I had some cognitive issues but that got a lot better after the I.V. so that was probably dehydration related.  And even if you do get a symptom that WD "like", it doesn't mean you would not have gotten that symptom anyway.  There are only so many different ways Our body can "express" itself when it's in distress, so I wouldn't be surprised if NON WD people aren't also experiencing symptoms that "We" have had in WD.  They call it the "Paxil FLU" For a reason.  

 

He said the best thing for to do, is like what @Onmyway  and others has been advocating, stay calm, don't let your CNS get out of hand with "self induced" anxiety and go slow with anything.  

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/828091467/why-some-covid-19-patients-crash-the-bodys-immune-system-might-be-to-blame

 

 

@Colonia, hadn't realized that you had Covid and ended up in the ER. Glad you are getting better. It's such a baffling disease - the vast majority of people have an easy time with it which makes it seem less scary than it is because then some people have an extreme reaction like you did with the cytokine storm and the body turning onto itself. Glad you're out of the woods!

 

 

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Colonial

@Onmyway  Thanks so much.  Still don't "feel" out of the woods, the reactions still come and go, but hopefully I'm past the worst of it. 😎

 

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Terry

@Colonial Do you have a "jumping off" point in mind yet?  Looks like you're really getting down there.

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Colonial

 

@Terry Not yet, but as per my signature:   11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

I just made what was a cumulative 50% drop combined over ONLY a 30 day period after a 3 month hold.

 

Granted, if I had known we were going to have a Pandemic on March 1st, I wouldn't have made a 2nd drop so fast right after a drop the month before, but I can't imagine making another one any time soon in the midst of being this sick.  I have kept that in mind.

 

Right now, I'm down to the last 3 lines of the 0.3 ml syringe.  Since I take it twice a day, it's how I get up to .12mgs daily total.

I was planning on just continuing to drop 1 line at a time, realizing I might need longer "holds" in between to settle.

 

But I can't foresee myself making another drop before June at the earliest being this ill, since I really can't say how much of my Illness symptoms may or may not be aggravated by what, in theory, was a large percentage drop just before getting ill.

 

 

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Terry

I'm sorry to hear that you've been sick.  Looking back at your thread I see that you've had Covid19?  Hope you are recovering quickly.  🙏

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Colonial

@Terry That's what they tell me. Lol.  

I think I over did it today, it was the first day I was starting to feel like a human again and now the symptoms are kicking up again.

But they always get severe at night every few days. 

 

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JanCarol
On 4/23/2020 at 1:56 AM, Superwoman said:
On 3/13/2020 at 6:19 PM, sunnysideup69 said:

I have been wondering whether, as a person in WD, I am more vulnerable to infection? We know these drugs can affect every system in the body and that includes the immune system.

I have an answer.  I asked my doctor this question.  He does not think that people are more vulnerable to infection when in withdrawal from antidepressants.  He does not think that we would be more vulnerable to Corona b/c of withdrawal.  This is a big relief.   My doctor seems to be knowledgeable about AD withdrawal, so I do think he knows what he is talking about.  
 

I also asked the doctor if having autoimmune disorders makes you more vulnerable to catching Corona or getting really sick with it.  I have some autoimmune disorders and was worried.  He said no, it does not make you any more vulnerable unless you are on immune suppressant drugs.  This may not relate to WD.  But I am sure that there are others here with autoimmune disorders who were wondering this.   
 

My last doctor told me that allergies can make you vulnerable to infections.  So I asked my doctor if treating the allergies with a natural anti-histimine would improve the immune system and make it easier to fight off pathogens.  He said no.  Taking an antihistamine would only alleviate allergy symptoms.   But it would not help the immune system or make it easier to fight off pathogens.  I know a lot of people have allergy problems in W/D so I thought people might want to know.  

 

OK - doctors do not understand withdrawal.  I've been doing this for 10 years, and have yet to meet a doctor who truly gets it.  Okay, maybe a half dozen, worldwide.

If antidepressant (and benzo and neuroleptic) withdrawal can mimic autoimmune disorders, and even induce them (see:  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6722-auto-immune-diseases-triggered-by-ssri-withdrawal/ and https://www.verywell.com/do-you-have-autoimmune-disease-symptoms-a-checklist-3232847 )

Then we are a vulnerable population.

Don't take unnecessary risks.  Consider yourself to be vulnerable until you have complete resolution from all autoimmune and autoimmune-like symptoms.  Consider these symptoms to be indicative of how vulnerable you are.  

 

Consumer Labs has been doing a great series on "what helps" and "what doesn't"  Here is an example:  

  
I note that he doesn't mention Melatonin. . . 

 

I have a PDF file of their suggestions, it is too large to post here.  You can access it via my Dropbox:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9wojlf1vnmqsv6/Consumer Lab COVID advice.pdf?dl=0  (dated 28-April 2020).  They say that their report on COVID is free to non-members, so the link is here:  https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/do-natural-remedies-or-supplements-prevent-coronavirus/natural-remedies-coronavirus/  This link, if you can access it, will update regularly.

Comments on the vid:  Vit D levels.  Tick (see sunlight, below).  Zinc = people who have been on psych drugs are more likely to be zinc deficient.  My orthomolecular doctor gives it as the first supplement in mood disorders (before she goes down the niacin route).    Selenium.  There is no natural selenium in the soil in Australia, so we are more likely to be deficient here.  Tinned fish = Omega3's are great for mood, I prefer to eat fish 1-2 times a week, but also take Omega3 supplement.  Here's he's spruiking his own service - which is a terrific service, I recommend it strongly for anyone who is taking more than 5 supplements, especially in the USA, as they actively test products:  https://www.consumerlab.com/    His focus is to boost your immune system so that you can fight off offending virus.

 

My doctor has released information about liposomal C, which enables you to take, metabolise and tolerate higher doses of C to help with immunity.  If you have kidney disease (note, people who have taken lithium, as well as some neuroleptics), this is not an answer.

I strongly suggest daily time in the sun.  Best hours are between 8 am and 10 am.  I'm not saying get out for 2 hours a day - but at least 10 minutes a day to help cleanse your system.  We use sunlight to purify here in Australa - leaving the cutting board in the sun, or disinfecting sponges and such.  Disinfect yourself with sunlight.   Remember to gently exercise.  Again, even if it's only 10 minutes a day (but 20 is better).

And breathe.  You have survived extreme states with acceptance.  

Now, the extreme states are EVERYWHERE, and we are especially placed for dealing with them in calmness, acceptance, even love.  Use this time to deepen your relationships, and become more comfortable with your inner self, your own company, your body, . 

The Earth cried, "STOP!" and so we have.  Humans needed to stop, in order to re-evaluate what we are doing.  If we learn from this, perhaps we won't need to be extincted.

I hope you see the Sun today!  (now, more than ever)

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JanCarol

This from Consumer Lab - 

 

COVIDVentilatorCCons.jpg

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JackieDecides
6 hours ago, JanCarol said:

The Earth cried, "STOP!" and so we have.  Humans needed to stop, in order to re-evaluate what we are doing.  If we learn from this, perhaps we won't need to be extincted.

I love this! 

 

thank you for the links. 

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sunnysideup69

Thanks @JanCarol,

That made really interesting reading. I've been trying to get as much early morning light as possible, it definitely helps. Gonna dig into your links.....really curious as to whether Ihave autoimmune symptoms....

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Victor3

Hello, 

While we are in tapering process, Are we more susceptible to electromagnetic and radio frequency radiation, Bluetooth frequency, wifi radiation and other cellphone carrier towers radiation?

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Altostrata

While you may be hypersensitive to a lot of things, I would not worry too much about radiation of any type. The sun puts out much larger amounts of all kinds of radiation throughout the day.

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jr1985

Hello, sorry if this has been answered previously - what happens with your medication if you have to go into ICU?  Can you bring your own tablets in with you in necessary?  The hospital pharmacy is obviously going to prescribe the full dose, but I imagine most of us aren’t on standard doses.

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Colonial

I see Your in Northern Ireland.  You would have to check with Your local health board or Hospital Union about the rules and regulations on those sorts of things.

Things are very different here in the USA And even from one state to another, I would assume they would be different even in one part of the U.K. to another.

The best thing you can do is to have dosages made up ahead of time if possible and have on record with either your physician or local clinic as to what exact dose you are on.

In theory once a hospital knows that they will want to continue to keep you on that dose. They really don't want legal troubles for giving you wrong dosages of meds.  There is no reason to assume the Hospital pharmacy is "obviously" going to do any particular thing, but making it easier for them to dose You correctly the first week or so by bringing exact dosages is helpful, as well as having Your exact dose down on your official medical record.  It is because of issues like this that I went with the pharmacy liquid version of my med where my pharmacy record matches my exact dose as opposed to just cutting up pills on a scale.  Of course, every option like that is not available to everyone or every med, so just do your best to have extra dosages made up and your exact dose on record in your official medical file.

 

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Shep

Just came across this recent article: 

 

US researchers evaluate antidepressant fluvoxamine for Covid-19

 

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“This drug has been around for decades, so we know how to use it safely. If effective, it could be an ideal drug to repurpose for outpatients with Covid.”

 

Even if the drug is ineffective against Covid-19, researchers expect participants to benefit from close supervision by doctors.

 

 

This is likely code for - If it causes insomnia, akathisia, mania, etc., we will point you to a psychiatrist because psychiatric drugs are completely safe, so you must be "mentally ill" . . . . 

 

It's frightening what is coming out of the system tasked with solving the worst pandemic in 100 years. 

 

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Posted (edited)
On 5/8/2020 at 12:07 AM, Colonial said:

PLANDEMIC PART 1 DR JUDY MIKOVITS

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/n53K4AzOh4U/

 

Please do a YouTube search for plandemic pandemic refuted debunked refuting debunking.  Don't believe everything you hear, read or watch on the internet without doing your research.

 

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Colonial
6 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Don't believe everything you hear, read or watch on the internet without doing your research.

 

I don't..

I'm also aware that all of the "supposed" debunking videos don't actually address the claims in pandemic.

Nor would watching  Youtube be considered doing proper "research".

 

Did any of these "debunkers" read Her books, one published by Simon and  Schuster? 

The publishing house that would have been legally responsible if any of the claims in it were false?

Doesn't seem so.

 

So we aren't "allowed" to see Pandemic on Youtube, but we are able to watch shoddy 20- minute videos that misrepresent what was in the video.

If the video was so incorrect, their wouldn't be a need to take it down or scream "Liar Liar" about it while never addressing the claims presented in it.

 

Not only do the debunking videos fail, the very fact that there are so many of them coming out of nowhere made by people without any actual knowledge of the scientists and the actual events described in the video, and with no dog in the fight themselves raise serious concerns about why the people who made them did.

 

But, some people will do anything for a buck.

 

If they had actual "proof" debunking either Markovitz's testimony, verified by the legal teams of the publishers who pressed Her books, or proof  that She was guilty of the slander against Her that would have been one thing. But they haven't. 

And I'm fairly certain we won't hear anything from the people called out in Pandemic either.

 

 

 

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Colonial
9 hours ago, Shep said:

“This drug has been around for decades, so we know how to use it safely.

 

Lol, we just don't know how to get people OFF it safely...

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henor
On 5/17/2020 at 2:40 PM, Shep said:

Just came across this recent article: 

 

US researchers evaluate antidepressant fluvoxamine for Covid-19

 

 

 

This is likely code for - If it causes insomnia, akathisia, mania, etc., we will point you to a psychiatrist because psychiatric drugs are completely safe, so you must be "mentally ill" . . . . 

 

It's frightening what is coming out of the system tasked with solving the worst pandemic in 100 years. 

 

its terrifying  and scary how pharma companies are able to sell these poisons and claim it works on a multitude of unrelated problems without any concrete proof and get fda approval, if there is any ''proof'' its all fake because trials are all funded by the companies themselves. Scary antidepressants are still around, I really hope one day they will be banned forever  and never come back.Big pharma is really trying to intoxicate and kill the whole human population in the name of profit, if things progress that way I believe mass extinction will  happen.Big pharma should be owned by the public with tax payers money.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200604&silverid-ref=NjM5ODE0Mzg5NjMzS0

 

I thought it uncanny how the symptoms of "mild" Covid sound a lot like ADWD:

 

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“I’m acutely aware of my body at all times of the day,” LeClerc told me. “It shrinks your entire world to an almost reptilian response to your surroundings.”

 

 

These are youngish to middle-aged people who are at a few months and still facing horrible fatigue and being routinely gaslit by friends and family who do not believe they could be sick for so "long."

 

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"... Still, many long-haulers have faced disbelief from friends and medical professionals because they don’t conform to the typical profile of the disease. People have questioned how they could possibly be so sick for so long, or whether they’re just stressed or anxious. “It feels like no one understands,” said Chloe Kaplan from Washington, D.C., who works in education and is on day 78. “I don’t think people are aware of the middle ground, where it knocks you off your feet for weeks, and you neither die nor have a mild case.”"

 

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The isolation of the pandemic has been hard enough for many healthy people. But it has exacerbated the foggy minds, intense fatigue, and perpetual fear of erratic symptoms that long-haulers are also dealing with. “It plays with your head, man,” Garner said. Some feel guilt over being incapacitated even though their cases are “mild.” Some start doubting or blaming themselves. In her fourth week of fever, Hamilton began obsessively worrying that she had been using her thermometer incorrectly. “I also felt like I wasn’t being mentally strong enough, and by allowing myself to say that I don’t feel good, I was prolonging the fever,” she said.

 

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Athena Akrami, a neuroscience professor at University College London, said two doctors suggested that she was stressed, while a fellow neuroscientist told her to calm down and take antidepressants.

 

I could go on a quote fest here 🙃 but find the parallels fascinating.

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Colonial

 

That's so interesting.  It's the same conversation as to why some people with med withdrawals (outside of chronic kindling) do absolutely fine and why some of us a slammed down interminably. Is it some DNA issue?  What's the connector in both cases?  And are "we" as 2 groups both sharing some marker that put us in this situation?

 

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@Colonial: I know, I'd love to see research on the questions you posed. The latest on Covid is that TypeA blood folks are more likely to get hit harder (need oxygen, ventilation) from a study. But grain of salt as it seems like info changes rapidly. Anyways, I hope that there is an increase in scientific studies.

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Colonial

 

I'd wondered about that, was anyone keeping a record of blood types!  And if this is an inflammation auto immune like response people are having, if they have it once, will it be WORSE the next year or so if they get it again?  Like a kindling response?  I wonder how this will play out with reinfections possibly being more dangerous as the years go by.  Like people who have a mild reaction to being stung by a bee the first time but the second time it almost kills them.  Hopefully they will have it sorted out with treatments sooner than later, as their is a vested interest in having one, since this could strike anyone.  I'm sure they could have already done so long ago for withdrawal, but why bother for people who they don't feel are productive to society?  We're an unimportant subset that's not worth their time, sadly. 

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FarmGirlWorks

@Colonial: the mere thought of being kindled with a mild case... well I can't even go there. But you are right: there are vested interests for treatment as this can strike the Boris Johnson's and so-on of the establishment. We, the people, have to support each other in getting off their drugs.

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Onmyway
On 6/5/2020 at 3:05 AM, FarmGirlWorks said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200604&silverid-ref=NjM5ODE0Mzg5NjMzS0

 

I thought it uncanny how the symptoms of "mild" Covid sound a lot like ADWD:

 

 

 

These are youngish to middle-aged people who are at a few months and still facing horrible fatigue and being routinely gaslit by friends and family who do not believe they could be sick for so "long."

 

 

 

 

I could go on a quote fest here 🙃 but find the parallels fascinating.

I found those fascinating too - esp the windows and waves pattern they experience. Is that a fundamental thing about our body that it heals in that pattern from grave injuries? Or is it that the virus and WD hit similar cascades - neuro-immune reactions? I'm just curious.

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Onmyway
On 6/5/2020 at 5:00 AM, Colonial said:

 

I'd wondered about that, was anyone keeping a record of blood types!  And if this is an inflammation auto immune like response people are having, if they have it once, will it be WORSE the next year or so if they get it again?  Like a kindling response?  I wonder how this will play out with reinfections possibly being more dangerous as the years go by.  Like people who have a mild reaction to being stung by a bee the first time but the second time it almost kills them.  Hopefully they will have it sorted out with treatments sooner than later, as their is a vested interest in having one, since this could strike anyone.  I'm sure they could have already done so long ago for withdrawal, but why bother for people who they don't feel are productive to society?  We're an unimportant subset that's not worth their time, sadly. 

With infections usually second and subsequent infections are milder with the exception of dengue fever. So for example certain years older people will be more protected from the flu because they've been exposed to a similar strain in their youth.

 

But I was reading that it is possible that if you take the vaccine and still get the disease, your reaction could be much stronger because of the vaccine. I'm very diligent about getting my vaccines but this as a possibility worries me. 

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Onmyway
On 6/5/2020 at 4:33 AM, FarmGirlWorks said:

@Colonial: I know, I'd love to see research on the questions you posed. The latest on Covid is that TypeA blood folks are more likely to get hit harder (need oxygen, ventilation) from a study. But grain of salt as it seems like info changes rapidly. Anyways, I hope that there is an increase in scientific studies.

I saw the report as well though not the study itself. I am dubious about it. "A" blood type is one of the most common from 30-45 depending on your ethnicity having type A. The correlation could be weak or with a small impact. Like men are more likely to get covid-19 which is true but that's not more likely by that much. 

 

Another study implicated high cholesterol. It helps to be a bit sceptical right now and wait to see where the chips will fall as they say with any hypothesis.

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On 6/5/2020 at 3:05 AM, FarmGirlWorks said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200604&silverid-ref=NjM5ODE0Mzg5NjMzS0

 

I thought it uncanny how the symptoms of "mild" Covid sound a lot like ADWD:

 

 

 

These are youngish to middle-aged people who are at a few months and still facing horrible fatigue and being routinely gaslit by friends and family who do not believe they could be sick for so "long."

 

 

 

 

I could go on a quote fest here 🙃 but find the parallels fascinating.

 

I am such a huge fan of Ed Yong, the author of this article. He's very thoughtful and thorough and wrote about this with compassion. I wish he'd write about ADs one day.

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