Bea123: amitriptyline

[Bea123]

@Altostrata Tomorrow i Will start tapering 10 mg...finger crossed! 

[Altostrata]

How are you feeling, Bea? Please do not make a change until your symptoms have stabilized.

 

How are you planning to reduce from 20mg fluoxetine? If I were you, I would not jump to 10mg. You have been taking 20mg since mid-February, is that correct? That is long enough to become adapted to it. You may be at risk for withdrawal symptoms if you make a big change.

 

If I were you, I'd consider reducing by 2mg or 10%. See Tips for tapering off Prozac (fluoxetine)

 

Are you still taking clonazepam? How often, at what dosages?

[Bea123]

@AltostrataI feel a Little Better. Started to take care of me more and speak with someone and making plans to go back to work. Didnt you Say previously to go on 20 and then 10 for a month?

[Altostrata]

Bea, please re-read this topic.

 

Are you feeling better each day?

 

You reduced to 20mg on April 9, correct? Your blood level of Prozac is still declining.

[Bea123]

@AltostrataYes i feel Better in my brain 

My body Is still the same so still muscle atrophy and loss of breast gland

[Altostrata]

Are you progressively feeling better each day?

[Bea123]

Mentally yes, phisically i am the same. I started to work out @Altostrata

I have more Hope and i cant wait go back to work etc. I think it's a big improvement. Im on 10

[mstimc]

Great  news Bea!  Working out will make you feel better physically and mentally. 

[Altostrata]

You are taking 10mg Prozac? How long have you been taking 10mg?

[Bea123]

I started last week. I was getting Better since i found out my ex has had another relationship for 3 years while he was with me. Now im bad again. I dont know what to do with the tapering because i dont think this state of mind is related to the drug @Altostrata

[Altostrata]

That must have been a terrible upset to you, Bea.

 

If you are having emotional issues not related to the drug, we're not going to be able to do much for you. Are you able to talk to a therapist?

 

Otherwise, you will need to practice emotional self-care, too. See

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

Ways to cope with daily anxiety

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals

 

Shame, guilt, regret, and self-criticism

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

[Bea123]

@Altostrata do you know someone Who got really bad muscle atrophy? I Lost 12 kgs in 2 weeks and i keep losing even if i eat more than i used to 

[Altostrata]

Have you not been eating? if so, you will fill out again.

 

How have you been feeling on 10mg Prozac?

[Bea123]

Yes i kept eating as normal. I Lost my muscle tone and 12 kgs all muscles. It Is horrible. 

I have days in which i cry all day and days in which i dont feel anything at all. 

Thank you for your help @Altostrata

[Bea123]

@Altostrata i went to the hospital today ti have the tilt test done. It Is positive. I developed POTS and i had a presyncope during the 8th minute standing 

My autonomous nervous system Is ***** up then. Now i have a proof.

[Altostrata]

Are you feeling better on 10mg Prozac or not?

 

Yes, autonomic dysfunction such as POTS is very common in psychiatric drug withdrawal. Knowing you have POTS does not change how you cope with symptoms. There are no definite treatments for autonomic dysfunction; quite often, antidepressants are prescribed to see if they help.

 

Autonomic dysfunction can come and go, this includes POTS. As you've been told repeatedly, withdrawal symptoms come and go and gradually go away in time. You need to cope with symptoms as your nervous system settles down.

 

Not sure what you want from us here. You seem to be set on believing you have some kind of medical problem. We don't diagnose or treat medical problems. I can't answer any questions about medical problems. You need to talk to doctors about potential medical problems.

[Bea123]

@Altostratasince you have experience i wanted to Ask if you have seen something similar to this before. I am not looking for medical advices, infact i went to a doctor specialised. They dont know If i can recover or not and i wanted to Ask you if you have seen something similar before. Thank you 

[Altostrata]

I've answered that question many times: This entire site is full of people with similar problems to yours. Look around the Intro forum and see that you're not so different.

[Altostrata]

How are you doing now, Bea?

[Bea123]

Thank @Altostratathank you for asking Alto! 

My cognition Is 100% back i think.

Emotions are gone. Never came back and i feel numb. Physical symptoms are the same. I was very toned before and now im all saggy. Lack of sensitivity Is the same, i cant feel all around my body. I have postural shaking i think from weakness. My head hurts every day because of the loss of muscles on my cervical spine so It Is very unstable. 

The only thing that improved so far Is the acathisia which Is gone and cognition. I havent tried to play the piano again since all this started so i dont know If i can still play or not. 

The vision Is ok apart from the nocturnal One. During the night i see Shadows moving all the time with closed eyes and also open. When in the dark i look at something bright there Is like a black spot that covers It so i Need to move my sight and not see It directly. If i look at It directly i dont see It. Libido Is gone and never came back. 

I try to not think about It All day. If i think about my phisical changing i get really depressed. Another thing i noticed Is that i dont get drunk anymore. I know i shouldnt drink alchol during Withrawal but i tried twice and it's like drinking water. I used to get Dizzy from It vey easily. I found that strange. 

Sorry for the long and messed up message but I Just woke up 

Have a nice day!

[Altostrata]

Good to hear you're feeling somewhat better.

 

Are you still taking 10mg Prozac? Is your signature up to date?

 

Please don't drink alcohol. You may not feel it right away but it can add to the neurological chaos.

[Bea123]

Smoking cigarettes at the beginning of Withrawal made It worse. Ill stop with the alchol. Im off prozac. I was tapering slowly and the tinnitus was so bad i couldnt cope. I stopped and i felt like before the Prozac. The damage i have Is All induced by the amytriptiline, Prozac added me tinnitus and brain fog but faded when i tapered and stopped when I stopped It. Im updating the signature, thank you @Altostrata

[Altostrata]

Are you taking clonazepam?

[Bea123]

@Altostratano, i quit everything mid April. Im drugs free now! 

Only took clonazepam for a short period. Tapered It and didnt give me issues. 

[Altostrata]

How do you feel now?

[Bea123]

 @Altostratai had no difference in my symptoms with the prozac. The only thing Is that on Prozac i had tinnitus and i was sensitive to light and noises. But i tapered and stopped and the issues i had because of Amytriptiline are still there. I have listed them a couple of messages ago they never changed apart from cognition that Is back and acathisia that Is gone. 

thank you for asking :)

[Altostrata]

Many people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see
https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/
https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

[Gridley]

@Bea123

 

Hello, can i share my experience with TCA?

Everyone here took ssri so It Is difficult to me to understand what happened to me. I took amytriptiline for tension headache from 2nd of january to 12th of january. I took only 6 mg which Is 3 drops of liquid. I started to have fasciculations so why i stopped. 3 days After i stopped i experienced burning all over my body, tremors and i started to become saggy and ive Lost 12 kgs of muscles. My Heart beat less intense. Ive done the tilt test and i resulted with POTS and syncope. I think It Is related to the cholinergic rebound tha has damaged my nervous fibers (the sympathetic ones). 

Im very hopeless,

@Gridleywhat do you think?

Please help 

 

Bea, I', answering your question here on your own thread.

 

You had an adverse reaction to the Amitriptyline, which means that the the drug is poison to your system.  You can have an adverse reaction to a tricyclic antidepressant just as you can to an SSRI.  Your body tried to get rid of the poison and in so doing threw your system into chaos.  Adverse reactions can occur with a small dose and even from one day's dose.  

 

The symptoms of an adverse reaction are similar to those of withdrawal.  The good news is that the damage is not permanent and that you will heal.  Unfortunately, there is no way to predict how long the healing process will take.  But you will heal.

[Bea123]

@Gridleymy body has changed so much that i dont think i Will recover 

Everyone here seems to have more CNS suffering than phisical symptoms. With physical i dont mean Pain but objectively changes 

It Is impossible to go back at before honestly 

[Gridley]

11 minutes ago, Bea123 said:

CNS suffering than phisical symptoms

Lots of people here have physical symptoms.  

[bijay]

@Bea123

 

Hello, I found your posts after doing a search on “cholinergic rebound”.  How are you doing?
 

I am so sorry you have had this experience.  I also had severe side effects while going through withdrawal from amitriptyline and believe I went through a cholinergic rebound.   (This was actually suggested by a psychiatrist I saw.)   I had to start taking the drug again and am now tapering down slowly.  

 

Just wanted to say you are not alone.  I have different physical symptoms but also lost a lot of weight.  I hope you are doing as well as can be and are taking good care of your mind and body.  All the best ...

 

[RickyC]

Very interesting.  I sympathise with you greatly. After taking Luvox for only 4 weeks all the muscles in my body just wasted away. 18 months later, the situation has improved, but my muscles are still pudgy and bloated and I feel depressed about how I look and feel now. I recently went to a muscle neurologist and had nerve conduction testing, blood tests and an MRI. Apparently, everything is normal! It's so frustrating that these sorts of things can happen and then you can't get any answers! See my before and after pics.

[rupa]

On 5/27/2020 at 8:09 PM, Bea123 said:

@Gridleymy body has changed so much that i dont think i Will recover 

Everyone here seems to have more CNS suffering than phisical symptoms. With physical i dont mean Pain but objectively changes 

It Is impossible to go back at before honestly 

Bea

Recovery happened to me.

I  recovered within 2 years.

Start doing gradual ,systematic taper,as this site instructions

along with diet.

Stop exercising.

Recovery possible to you too.