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15 hours ago, Csilover said:

@Shep so should I half the benzo dose?

 

Yes, please note this post from earlier in your thread. 

 

On 5/6/2020 at 12:55 PM, Shep said:

So here's a suggestion. The below will reduce your Ativan by 50% total. 

 

     9 am .25 mg ativan

     3 pm 6.25 mg seroquel

     9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .25 mg Ativan 

 

Please post your thoughts on this. If you think it's too aggressive a drop, you could leave the morning dose as is at .5 mg and drop the evening Ativan down to .25 mg. It's likely that the Seroquel is helping with sleep the most, so getting rid of some of the evening Ativan makes sense right now. 

 

 

 

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7 am woke up. Anxiety. Felt lots of head pressure.

9 am head pressure more intense. Felt out of it. A little anhedonic. Took .5 ativan

12 feel much better. 
4 pm feel anxiety again. Crying spells.

6 pm tinnitus head pressure changing spots and muscle twitches 

8:30 really bad headaches and head pressure. Wired sort of feeling. Temple pulsating and pain vision blurry 

Feel a little anhedonic

9 am 75 mg seroquel. Tinnitus increased when took medicine. Took .5 Ativan. 
10 fell asleep

7 woke up after waking several times. Anxiety. 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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7 am woke  with anxiety

8 crying 

9 am couldn’t stop crying. Pressure in temples and top of head. Took .25 Ativan 

11 am crying non stop 

12 crying 

1 crying 

2 calmed down

6 felt in edge. Suicidal ideation 

7-9 crying. Took 75 mg seroquel and .25 Ativan. 
 

today was not a good day. I couldn’t stop crying for no reason

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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Hi everyone. I’m 17. From January to April I had windows and waves of pssd, anhedonia, dr/pr, insomnia. My parents made me get back on medication when they found out I wasn’t taking anything.  I was feeling better at that point. I got put on 5 mg Paxil in the hospital and reacted horribly. I immediately didn’t find men attractive again and had some mild anhedonia.after  I was put on high doses of seroquel In the hospital and had to get off when my parents realized how bad it is for you. When I did my first drop 175 to 100 I began to have windows of feeling like myself again. I even had windows where I had sexual urges and found men attractive. However, those were a few days after the drop and haven’t come back since. I feel like myself for the most part, just not that. Did I get windows because of the shock of the drop? I’m feeling really bad rn. I overcame  pssd and anhedonia only to have to go through this all again. I’m afraid I did

damage this time. The person I had fallen in love with I felt feelings for Again. Now gone. Anyone with insight on adverse reactions and sexuality it’s be great to know. I feel hopeless. Can it get better after an immediate adverse reaction like that? I want to be able to fall in love. I can’t live a life without love. Will getting off seroquel make me completely emotionally numb? 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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I am so angry. I want just want my suffering to end

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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7 am woke up after tossing and turning the entire night

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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I feel very depressed the last two days. I feel like dying. The intrusive thoughts are bad. Why is this happening? I felt like myself after the first drop, now feel depressed and asexual again. Was it just the shock of the drop that brought things out or was it truly a window? I am afraid the Paxil really messed my brain up. When I took it, it was immediate. My forhead and temples had so much pain. Now it just tingles and I feel pressure. I just live through the day so I can fall asleep at night and forget about all of this for a bit. I brought this on myself and deserve it. I just want it to end. If it was a window and I know I can feel that way again, I’d have more will to push through but now it feels as though I’ll never come out on the other side. Just because of one tiny pill. Last time all of my symptoms would come two or three days later after I took something. A delayed onset like destabilization. This was immediate which makes me fear damage

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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Csilover, most likely the increased symptoms you have now are due to recent drug changes. Do you feel you can hold on for 4 days to let them smooth out? @Shep, what do you think?

 

The 2 drugs you're currently taking, Seroquel and Ativan, can cause emotional anesthesia as well as sexual dysfunction. We are trying to minimize the dosages of both. There's a very good chance your feelings will return, but you need to cope with the drugs for a while first.

 

I am sorry you have hit this bad patch with psychiatric drugs. Think of it as having a serious illness. It may be frustrating but you might have to ask this other person to be patient with you while you recover. You will need to be patient yourself. There's no way out of it but through it.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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@Altostrata Thanks Alto. I think I can hold. I will try to push through though if we are running out of time and you think in the long run cutting is best.   Do I hold with the .25 Ativan morning and night and 75 mg seroquel? 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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What do you guys think? 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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I feel very destabilized the past two days. Overall, I had felt better. But it seems to be going downhill. I have more anger and some anhedonia spells. Starting to feel it again. Wish I hadn’t complained about the pssd. It’s a small sacrifice to make to not feel like a zombie

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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Csilover, sounds like you're dealing with some neuro-emotions, which is quite common during withdrawal. Please see:

 

Neuro emotions

 

How are you doing with learning some new non-drug coping skills?

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

If you're too overwhelmed for non-drug coping skills, simply finding a distraction such as a favorite tv show, video game, or music can be very helpful to get you through the rough patches. 

 

You may want to hold the drugs steady for a few days and see if your nervous system can catch up to the recent changes. 

 

Hang in there. This will get better.

 

 

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I wasn't experiencing the anhedonia again until coming down off seroquel :( I don't feel a lot like myself like I did. Just pssd. Can I come off the seroquel more? I don't know if it's what's making me numb. I'm more comfortable taking benzos than the seroquel. Do you guys have an idea of what move we'll make in a couple of days?


Thanks! You're the best. @Altostrata @Shep

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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9 am wake up crying .25 ativan. 

10 am crying  

11 am crying nonstop

12-3 feel fine. 
4 feel really upset. Crying. 
Drive away from home. 
feel suicidal

8 pm get home. Cry. Calm down. 
9 pm take 75 mg seroquel. .25 ativan.

10 pm go to sleep. 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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did not sleep well. Woke up many times
9 am wake up anxious. Angry take .25 ativan

10 am feel nervous and depressed 

12 pm very depressed 

4 felt nauseous and light headed. Can’t stop crying. Legs feel light. Like a feather. Felt like I couldn’t control them for a second. face muscles twitching. Especially checks and nose. Feel muscle twitches in back. Felt like I was going to pass out. Sorry TMI. Genitals feel like they are burning 
4:30 feel a bit better. 
4:50 feel I’ll. Very sick to stomach

I would get rages in my last withdrawal and I find I’m getting them again. Trying to control the neuroemotions but feel like I’m unstable again. 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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Csi, you might be feeling waves from the Seroquel reductions. Hang in there, you're doing okay. Keep reminding yourself that bad patches will go away.

 

You are taking psychiatric drugs. They're going to have an effect on you. Please do not upset yourself because you feel their effects. This will go away in time as you reduce the dosage.

 

We don't want to reduce the dosage too fast or you might have trouble sleeping and other withdrawal symptoms.

 

It's a lot, but as you go through this, you're going to have to learn to calm yourself. Bad thoughts are just passing clouds, you don't have to pay attention to them. You can wave them away. Changing the channel and doing something else can help a lot.

 

You'll want to learn to manage your symptoms, or your parents and doctors will think you need more drugs if you get dramatic, especially if you say you're suicidal. Are you really suicidal? Which way do you want to go?

 

Please read

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Neuro-emotions

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

Ways to cope with daily anxiety

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals

 

Shame, guilt, regret, and self-criticism

 

Coping with irritation, anger and rage

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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@Altostrata I’m sorry. I actually am very Suicidal. That’s why I was worried earlier. I didn’t know if it’s the seroquel making me feel this way or that I’m feeling the reduction. I’m scared. Im gonna call my therapist tonight and try to manage it
 

im trying to keep it together. 
I keep having these vibrating brain sensations that started earlier  

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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You'll have to practice waving away the thoughts. They are your thoughts, not an evil influence. They can overwhelm you only if you agree with them. Ask your thoughts what they want for you, do they want you to come out of this bad patch? Will they help you?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Okay Alto. Thank you. Would you recommend going up a little and then reducing slower? @Altostrata

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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What was the last drug change you made, and when?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Seroquel timeline
April 18: 25 mg

April 19: 50 mg

April 20: 50 mg

April 21: 75 mg 

April 22: 12.5 2x daily, 100 mg 

April 23: 12.5 2x daily, 200 ( doctor upped it I didn’t sleep well, so I lowered it) mg 

April 24: 12.5 2x daily, 150 mg 

April 25: 12.5 2x daily, 150 mg 

April 26: 12.5 2x daily, 150 mg 

April 27: 12.5 2x daily, 150 mg 

April 28: 12.5 2x daily, 75 mg 

April 29: 12.5 x2 daily, 75 mg at night

April 30: 12.5 x2 daily 75 mg at night

May 1:12.5 x2 daily, 75 mg at night

May 2: 12.5 x1 daily, 75 mg at night

May 3: 12.5 x 1 daily, 75 mg at night

May 4: 12.5 x1 daily, 75 mg at night 

May 5: 6.25 x1 daily, 75 mg at night
May 6: 6.25 x 1 daily, 75 mg

May 7: 6.25 x1 daily, 75 mg 

May 8: 75 mg

May 9: 75 mg

May 10: 75 mg

 

on May 9 halved the Ativans from .5 to .25 morning and night. @Altostrata

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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You might go back to .25mg Ativan in the morning and .5mg Ativan at night. Att: @Shep

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Okay @Altostrata thank you.

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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7 Pm-9 extreme anxiety and wired feeling

9 on took 75 mg seroquel and .5 Ativan. Tingling. Pins and needles all over body. Sharp pains in feet.

10 fell asleep.

7 am woke up. Slept pretty solidly

woke up feeling anxious 

 

can an adverse reaction cause repression? I feel more depressed than I’ve felt in a long time  @Altostrata

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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12 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You might go back to .25mg Ativan in the morning and .5mg Ativan at night. Att: @Shep

 

Either this or go back to .5 mg morning and night. It's possible you're dependent on Ativan and may need to continue taking it until you stabilize from the Seroquel changes. 

 

Please post your thoughts on this. 

 

16 hours ago, Csilover said:

I keep having these vibrating brain sensations that started earlier  

 

When did the vibrating brain sensations start? After you reduced Ativan or was this a symptom prior to the benzo reduction? 

 

 

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@Shep the vibrating started after the ativan reductions. The depression started a couple of days ago. 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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1 minute ago, Csilover said:

@Shep the vibrating started after the ativan reductions

 

Thanks, Csilover. Please go back to your original dose of .5 mg taken twice a day. 

 

This symptom, along with your suicidal thoughts, make me think you're dependent on the Ativan, so I would stay on it until you're a lot more stable from the recent Seroquel changes. 

 

You've made extraordinary progress already by getting the Seroquel reduced to a much safer level and your overall sleep is still good. So if you can keep everything steady for awhile and work on your non-drug coping skills and healthy distractions, you'll be okay. 

 

After you've given your nervous system time to stabilize, then we can talk about doing a slow micro-taper off the Ativan and then off the remaining Seroquel. The goal is to remain as functional as possible, letting your symptoms be your guides and teachers as you go through this process. 

 

Please let me know what you think of this plan. 

 

 

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@Shep this sounds good. Can adverse reactions cause depression? I’ve been feeling so depressed and unmotivated the past few days. I had some windows where I thought of romantic love and pssd windows. But they were right when I dropped. Now I just feel very very down and sick. My stomach hurts. I have heart burn. My brain feels sick if that makes sense. It aches and burns. I get this pressure and feel all kinds of anxiety from the inside out. And I’m not completely emotionally numb. Which I’m grateful for. Just jo libido, no motivation and don’t feel attracted to guys or the thought of romantic love. Which normally, no matter what, I have felt those things

 

 can a fast taper prevent faster recovery from an adverse reaction, which are the lack of love feelings? 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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I read that people weaning off antipsychotics can get full windows from anhedonia and pssd but it’s just the initial shock. It goes back to the pssd baseline again. I’m so worried that those windows weren’t real and only because of the shock of the drop. I feel more and more anhedonic and depressed. I feel no hope 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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If those symptoms became prominent after you reduced Ativan, they're probably from reducing Ativan.

 

Try putting the nighttime Ativan back to 0.5mg first, that may be enough. If symptoms persist, you might have to put the morning Ativan back to 0.5mg, too. Let us know how you're doing.

 

30 minutes ago, Csilover said:

I read that people weaning off antipsychotics can get full windows from anhedonia and pssd but it’s just the initial shock. It goes back to the pssd baseline again. I’m so worried that those windows weren’t real and only because of the shock of the drop. I feel more and more anhedonic and depressed. I feel no hope 

 

No, people do wean off successfully. Please don't worry about it. Keep telling yourself you're going to be okay, this will help you get through any difficult period.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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My full pssd window was right after the drop of seroquel. Like 3 days after. My most full windows personality were 6 days after the initial drop of seroquel and then once I dropped more seroquel. It’s been a slow decline to depression the past 4 or 5 days. I got a lot of anxiety and crying after the Ativan drop. @Altostrata 

 

I added back in the .5 ativan. felt less anxiety today. Just more depression.  

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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Did you add the Ativan in the morning or evening?

 

Please do what you can to stop worrying. I like to look at pictures of cats. Changing the channel is easy once you get the hang of it.

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Okay. I was reading immediate adverse reactions take years and got worried. My adverse reaction wasn’t immediate last time and it worries me. @Altostrata

ill try to change the channel though

i added it in the evening and the morning 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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22 minutes ago, Csilover said:

i added it in the evening and the morning 

 

That's okay.

 

Don't read the horror stories, they're too upsetting to you. People have all kinds of outcomes, mostly good.

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Can anyone find any stories with immediate adverse reactions that healed? It would give me peace of mind. I haven’t found many and those who did took years 

Zoloft 100 mg 2015-2019

effexor 75 mg December 2019- January 2020

effexor restarted 75 mg April 12
began Ativan .5 mg twice a day April 12

stopped 75 mg April 17

seroquel 25 mg daytime, 150 at night starting April 19 2020

adverse reaction to 5 mg Paxil April 19 2020. Stopped taking. april 28 dropped 150 seroquel dose at night to 75. may 2 dropped 1st 12.5 seroquel dose

reduced ativan from .5 to .25 day and night  for May 9,10, 11

went back up To .5 May 12 
Current schedule:

9 am .5 ativan

9 pm 75 mg seroquel, .5 Ativan 

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15 hours ago, Csilover said:

I read that people weaning off antipsychotics can get full windows from anhedonia and pssd but it’s just the initial shock. It goes back to the pssd baseline again.

 

You were only on a relatively high dose of an antipsychotic for a few days. Since then you've been taking a dose of Seroquel comparable to a rather large doe of Benadryl. I don't think you'll find a lot of these accounts for Benadryl. You're going into catastrophic thinking for no reason. 

 

13 hours ago, Csilover said:

Can anyone find any stories with immediate adverse reactions that healed? It would give me peace of mind. I haven’t found many and those who did took years 

 

The reason you're finding more from short term users who spent years healing is that these web forums contain stories from people who spent years posting because they were sick for years. The ones who heal quickly move on with their lives and rarely leave a success story. 

 

Also, anyone reporting that they were diagnosed as so-called "bipolar" were likely dealing with an adverse reaction. But instead of the psychiatrist realizing this and stopping the offending drug, the diagnosis was changed from "depression" to "bipolar" and the adverse reaction was "treated" with an antipsychotic. People come off these drugs and heal from this all the time. Some people may have metabolic problems and other issues from long-term use of antipsychotics, but you don't fall into this category. 

 

You may want to read this book:

 

Anatomy of an Epidemic

 

Scroll down and you'll see a list of videos about the research in this book. 

 

The book trailer is here: 

 

Robert Whitaker, author Anatomy of an Epidemic video (11.5 minutes)

 

 

 

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