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Hi everyone - Firstly I'm so grateful for having found this forum through the podcast Let's talk withdrawal. I thought I was going mad as no one would believe the withdrawal symptoms I've been experiencing. Had I found these pages before I would have tapered much more slowly!

 

I have suffered with depression since I was a child but no one has ever asked me about my life or explored why I might be feeling this way. Along with most people, I was told that I had a chemical imbalance in my brain that could be fixed with antidepressants. Over the last few years and with the knowledge that all these meds do is numb me but I remained depressed, I started researching the topic and was gobsmacked by some of the research and information I found. So, I have been trying to get off them since 2017.

 

I am hoping that someone can help or advise me through the awful symptoms I have been experiencing every time I try to withdraw. My symptoms are:

  • Crippling insomnia - I have been prescribed Zopiclone short term but without this I can only manage an hour or two dozing at best
  • Foul metallic taste in my mouth
  • Feeling flu like - hot/cold, shivery, achy, nauseous
  • Headaches almost permanently, pain in my face and neck
  • Tinnitus and brain zaps
  • Anxiety/palpitations
  • Gastric problems, constipation/diarrhea

 

My first proper attempt in 2017 lasted about 8 months but I became so ill that I gave up. At that time I didn't know what was wrong with me and had various blood tests and investigations only to be told there was nothing wrong. I wasn't at first depressed though (not that anyone would believe me). I think I probably became depressed through the illness so hence, I gave in and went back on the meds. I do believe I know the difference between feeling ill and depression but when you've been labelled for so many years, not even your loved ones believe you.

 

So this is my 2nd serious attempt and I've been off now for about 5 months. Again, the symptoms have returned exactly the same as the last time but more seriously this time I became extremely anxious and agitated and ended up in A&E in March this year having planned my suicide. I was put under the Acute mental health team and a psychiatrist but of course they said I had to go back on my meds and prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg. I tried to argue my case but felt I had to give in and took it for 3 days before stopping. I have still not told them that I'm not taking it because I'm scared that they will withdraw their support. I have been signed off sick from work for 2 months now and can't imagine how I will be able to return if this continues. I am aware that I probably tapered far too quickly but I can't go back now. I have great support from my brother and sister and they've helped me research this and claim benefits. I've also been doing daily meditations and yoga for the last couple of months. I think this helps a little especially with the insomnia. I've honestly been feeling so ill and exhausted that before finding this I was seriously thinking of just going back on the meds and admitting defeat once and for all. It's just so horrible when no one believes you or takes you seriously when you're trying your best to drag yourself through each day. So, any advice would be very welcome, so sorry if went on a bit...TIA

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1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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Gridley

Welcome to SA, Bolouis.  I'm sorry you're going through this.  

 

You are experiencing withdrawal due to a too fast taper.  The symptoms you describe in your post are very typical of withdrawal.  

 

The good news is that you will heal and the damage is not permanent.  Unfortunately, there's no way to predict how long it will take to recover.  So that you have a better idea of what you're experiencing here is some information on withdrawal and the healing process.

 

What is withdrawal syndrome.

 

Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  

 

These explain the healing process really well:

 

Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 

Brain Remodelling 

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium (glycinate is a good form) and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems.

 

Here are some links to help you cope with anxiety.

 

Audio:  How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes
 

VIDEO:  Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg)
 

Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help …

 

10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall

 

Here are some links to help with insomnia, which is one of the most common withdrawal symptoms.  Please be very careful with the Zopiclone, as it is very easy to become physiologically dependent on it.

 

Tips to help sleep - so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster

 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952

 

This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills.  

 

Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

 

Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia.   

 

Melatonin for sleep   

 

It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose.  

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Bolouis

Thank you so much,  I will look into all your suggestions. I am so very grateful.


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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Hanna72

@Bolouis Glad you found your way in here. 🥰This site has personally been a lifesaver for me. And has a huge amount of great reading materials, information and support. 
Take good care of yourself and hang in there

My best wishes to you🙏



2000/ 20mg Paxil  for panic attacks. Many attempts to quit through out the years, without any success.

2019- January started tapering 20 mg Paxil. 
2019-October 10 mg Paxil , getting ready for a bridge with 20mg Prozac Took about 1 month during switch.

At one point my withdrawals were so bad I went up to 40 mg Prozac, but went quickly back down to 20 mg and very soon after that 10 mg Prozac.

Off  Paxil 2019/ November started tapering 10mg Prozac 2019/December 8 mg Prozac 

2020/January 4 mg Prozac 

2020/15/3 .09 mg jumped off

2020 March 16 off Prozac  Quetipine 25 mg used 1 time in 15 months, oxezapam 15 mg used 5 times 

Suppliments: Magnesium, omega 3 fish oil ( epa&dha) D and C vitamin 

“The two most powerful warriors are patience and time” Leo Tolstoy 

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Bolouis

Thanks so much. Yes, I've already started reading. This is a life saver 😊


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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I know this is all very new to me and I probably just need to slow right down but I'm feeling so very overwhelmed, scared, angry and defeated right now. I don't know if I can do this, I don't feel strong enough. I'm angry with the drug companies, doctors and so called professionals. I want to scream and shout, I want to educate people and I want to give up, all at the same time. I feel like a child having a temper tantrum. I want to be better than this, I was better than this. I feel ashamed of being so self obsessed. I want to be a good person, I don't want to wallow in self pity. So many people are struggling with much more than me and there is so much suffering in the world right now. I want to be able to help people, I want to do some good in the world.

 

I'm so sorry but I feel like I need to put this somewhere. I hope it's okay, please take it down if not. I just don't know whether I can cope with these symptoms for months or even years longer. I might never get my sexual function back, I might not feel well for years and my doctor will probably never believe me. How am I going to get back to work, how am I going to cope financially, how will I be of any good to anyone? My employers think I've had a mental break down brought on by my 'depressive disorder' which is written on my sick note, I want them to know and understand the truth. How do you amazing people find the strength? I'm so tempted to just give up.

 

I'm so grateful for having found this forum so sorry if it sounds like I'm not. I think my WD symptoms and anxiety are at an all time high and it's probably not unreasonable to feel like this given all the truths I am uncovering. I'm just scared I haven't got the strength to see this through.


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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Kerrym

Hi,

Would you not increase your amitriptyline?

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Bolouis

Yeah, I've certainly thought about that but was saving it until I stop the zopiclone which I have to stop soon, both because I want to and also the doctor won't give me any more..


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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I'm still not really sure how to use this site, feeling confused, overwhelmed and somewhat paranoid. I find it so hard to connect with people and feel so alone. Been trying to get my husband to read some of the information I've found so he can understand what's going on with me but he's always so busy and it doesn't seem important to him. I don't want to be so full of self pity but I'm really struggling, just stuck in my own head which is the worse place to be. Trying to meditate but struggling to sit still and quiet my mind.


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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Hanna72

@Bolouis Hey, you are not alone. 
I know how it feels to be stuck in thoughts and my own head. It’s good that you are trying to meditate, even for just one minute is a good start. This all takes practice and learning new coping skills takes time. Don’t beat yourself up, patience and time is important during this process. 
Have you ever read Eckhart Tolle books about mindfulness? It is helping me for my own anxiety. You can also check him out on YouTube. 
Hang in there,🙏



2000/ 20mg Paxil  for panic attacks. Many attempts to quit through out the years, without any success.

2019- January started tapering 20 mg Paxil. 
2019-October 10 mg Paxil , getting ready for a bridge with 20mg Prozac Took about 1 month during switch.

At one point my withdrawals were so bad I went up to 40 mg Prozac, but went quickly back down to 20 mg and very soon after that 10 mg Prozac.

Off  Paxil 2019/ November started tapering 10mg Prozac 2019/December 8 mg Prozac 

2020/January 4 mg Prozac 

2020/15/3 .09 mg jumped off

2020 March 16 off Prozac  Quetipine 25 mg used 1 time in 15 months, oxezapam 15 mg used 5 times 

Suppliments: Magnesium, omega 3 fish oil ( epa&dha) D and C vitamin 

“The two most powerful warriors are patience and time” Leo Tolstoy 

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Bolouis

@Hanna72 Thank you so much, I'm so tearful today... Yes I've heard of Eckhart Tolle but never really looked any further so I will now. I know mindlefulness is so good for me so thanks again, I will hang in there 🌈


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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@Gridley  or anyone? Just wondered whether I could ask a couple of questions, I'm sure you guys are very busy.. I got some magnesium and thought it was a low dose but on closer inspection is 500mg which is probably way too high. Anyway, I took one a couple of days ago and have hardly been able to get out of bed since due to a worsening of my symptoms and a pounding migraine like headache. I'm guessing this is the magnesium, what dose would you suggest starting on and can you suggest a good brand?

 

The other thing is I'm wondering if it's worth me reinstating with Prozac or similar. From what I've read and understood so far, it's probably not worth it at over 5 months in WD but I'm really struggling with the symptoms, particularly physically and with little support around me I'm finding it really tough to get through each day. Thanks.


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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10 minutes ago, Bolouis said:

500mg which is probably way too high.

Yes, that is way too high.  You could start off with 25mg or at most 50mg and see how that affects you.  If you do well there, you could slowly increase.  I can only tolerate 100mg, though some can go higher.

 

12 minutes ago, Bolouis said:

reinstating with Prozac or similar.

We don't recommend adding in a new drug to deal with withdrawal.

 

Are you still on Amitriptyline?  If so, at what dose?


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Bolouis

@Gridley Thanks. Yes I'm still on amitriptyline and taking 20mg. Was thinking about increasing it when I stop the zopiclone which will run out in about a week. I'm on 3.75mg zopiclone. Would really appreciate your thoughts..


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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53 minutes ago, Bolouis said:

@Gridley Thanks. Yes I'm still on amitriptyline and taking 20mg. Was thinking about increasing it when I stop the zopiclone which will run out in about a week. I'm on 3.75mg zopiclone. Would really appreciate your thoughts..

I would hold at your current dose of 20mg.  


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Just want to say thank you @Gridley and report something positive for a change. I started on Omega 3 and have since introduced the reduced dose of 50mg magnesium and am feeling a definite reduction in my physical symptoms at last! This is the first time in all my withdrawal attempts that I have ever felt any relief so even if it's just a window, I'm very grateful. I still have the restlessness, anxiety and insomnia but hope to introduce melatonin soon. My zopiclone will run out in a couple of days so I guess I'll see how that goes. I'm not even going to attempt tapering the amitriptyline yet and will ask for advice when the time comes..baby steps..

 

Some hopeful news is that my GP has now acknowledged the withdrawal symptoms I'm experiencing from the Duloxetine, although she said I should feel better in a couple of weeks! - can't expect miracles I suppose but at least it's a step in the right direction.

 

@Hanna72 thank you so much for your kind words, just knowing I'm not alone makes all the difference on a bad day, I hope you are well ❤️ 


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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2 hours ago, Bolouis said:

a step in the right direction.

 

That is all great news, Bolouis.  I'm very happy you're getting some relief.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Does anyone have any positive experiences with private psychiatrists or psychologists in the UK? I've literally been falling apart over the last month both physically and mentally. I'm now under the Community Mental Health Team after becoming suicidal but they're pretty useless and have no understanding of psychiatric drug withdrawal. I'm looking for private therapy now but it's a minefield and I don't want to waste my money.


1995 Sertraline 50mg for 6 months - CT resulting in MH breakdown

1996-1998 Various incl. Sertraline, Venlafaxine. a MAOI - tapered off quickly and stopped for 1yr approx. in 1998

1998 MH breakdown then 6 months in a treatment centre for addiction (co-dependency)

2000-2016 Fluoxetine 20mg increased to 40mg. Amitrityline 10mg (for nerve pain) increased to 50mg over this time period

2016-Oct 2017 Switch to Citalopram then Escitalopram then Sertraline 50mg increased to 100mg. Tapered (2-3 months) stopped Oct 17

Oct 17-May 18 AD free for 8 months. 1st experience of withdrawal syndrome but wasn't sure at the time

May 2018 Duloxetine 60mg. Amitripyline decreased to 10mg

Sept 2019 Tapered and stopped Duloxetine (2-3 months, didn't know too fast) by Dec 2019. Withdrawal syndrome by Oct 19

Oct 2019-Present Amitriptyline 20-30mg (originally prescribed for nerve pain, but increased for insomnia)

Jan 2020-Present Zopiclone 3.75-7.5mg for insomnia prescribed on/off. Trying to stop!

Mar 2020 MH breakdown. Prescribed Mirtazapine 30mg - took for 3 days then stopped, determined to be AD free

 

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