Avrgejane Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts were on gaba supplements? Some people love them some hate them. Some people say they cause more damage and some say they are neither here nor there because they are ingested and supposedly do not cross the bbb. I have been taking them for 7.5 months now and I’m worried they could be impacting my progress and healing. Just looking for some thoughts and experiences from members. Aj Avrgejane (47 year old female) 2015 - approx. 5-6 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 2-3 months successfully 2017 - Approx. 8 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 3 months successfully Beginning of July 2017 - took approx 3 Ativan sublingual .5 and about 4 oxycodone for pain from miscarriage. Mid July 2017 - took 1/2 prozasin 2mg (1mg) and 1/4 zoplicone 5mg (1.25mg) for about 2-3 weeks but made me feel awful so I CT. August 2017 - 5 days of vaginal valium 10mg after pelvic floor pain after D&C. August 11, 2019 - prescribed amitriptyline for nerve pain in teeth, started at 12.5mg for a week, then 25mg for a week (panic attacks), increased to 50mg for 2 weeks (panic attacks), increased to 100mg for 4 days (panic attacks) followed by an extremely quick taper - 50mg for 3 days, 25mg for 3 days, 12.5mg for 3 days, 6mg for 2 days. Have not taken amitriptyline since Sept 30th, 2019. Took Clonazipam intermittently (14 in 40 days average .25-50 mg) from Aug 25-Oct 8, 2019. Currently taking 90mg natural desiccated thyroid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted May 18, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) @Avrgejane Here's a link. Two posts warn to be very careful with GABA if you've been on benzos. Like any drug that alters brain function, it will need to be tapered. GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) tablets, capsules, liquid ... Edited May 18, 2020 by Gridley Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrgejane Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 @Gridley @Shep I’m just finishing up a magnesium taper in the next few weeks then I will taper off the Gaba. Are there any posts or suggestions as to how to correctly and easily taper off the Gaba? I know neither of you can “suggest” a taper but if you could direct me to a viable source I would greatly appreciate that! Robin (AJ) Avrgejane (47 year old female) 2015 - approx. 5-6 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 2-3 months successfully 2017 - Approx. 8 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 3 months successfully Beginning of July 2017 - took approx 3 Ativan sublingual .5 and about 4 oxycodone for pain from miscarriage. Mid July 2017 - took 1/2 prozasin 2mg (1mg) and 1/4 zoplicone 5mg (1.25mg) for about 2-3 weeks but made me feel awful so I CT. August 2017 - 5 days of vaginal valium 10mg after pelvic floor pain after D&C. August 11, 2019 - prescribed amitriptyline for nerve pain in teeth, started at 12.5mg for a week, then 25mg for a week (panic attacks), increased to 50mg for 2 weeks (panic attacks), increased to 100mg for 4 days (panic attacks) followed by an extremely quick taper - 50mg for 3 days, 25mg for 3 days, 12.5mg for 3 days, 6mg for 2 days. Have not taken amitriptyline since Sept 30th, 2019. Took Clonazipam intermittently (14 in 40 days average .25-50 mg) from Aug 25-Oct 8, 2019. Currently taking 90mg natural desiccated thyroid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator hayduke Posted June 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 7, 2020 I've cut out drinking a few weeks ago and read that L-theanine promotes your body's natural production of GABA. It's certainly made it more comfortable for me CTing from about a six pack a day. Explains why I found myself chugging green tea all day many days in the office, but I find the extracted supplement more helpful probably because it doesn't have the caffeine. I am not a health professional - your actions are your own. Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one" My taper visualised as a graph | My intro thread Backdrop: 2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole 2015: olanzapine 10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg by crude pill cutter 2018: Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214 -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂 Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg 1wk after Jul 100mg Aug-Dec 75mg/4wks Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^ Jan-Feb 2024 cross taper off shots to 1mg risperidone Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you" -- KMFDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverknew Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Has anyone ever heard or read of the theory that taking a supplement (such as GABA or melatonin, something made by the body) regularly will inhibit the body's own production of the substance? I've read this in a couple of places and wonder if it's true. And I wonder how significant it is. Perhaps someone our there has actually had experience with this happening? On Prozac since 2004, 10 mg Began to taper, 2016, first time cold turkey unsuccessful, so soon after tried again kept having to go back on medication due to withdrawals tried to do it myself as couldn't find a dr to help me Currently on taper #4 from 2016, having changed to Lexapro and starting November 2018 from 5 mg As of April 2020 I am at 1/5th of a mg (.2 mg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 4, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, neverknew said: Has anyone ever heard or read of the theory that taking a supplement (such as GABA or melatonin, something made by the body) regularly will inhibit the body's own production of the substance? On 4/7/2011 at 11:26 AM, Altostrata said: According to what I've read and conversations with doctors I trust, your body does NOT get dependent on it and does NOT compensate by reducing natural melatonin output. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator hayduke Posted September 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2020 @neverknew I have the impression 5-HTP can cause that with serotonin. There's at least a few supplements that will act on GABA. @DataGuy and I were chatting a while ago about whether L-Theanine could do this with GABA. I think it's possible, even coffee does this with adenosine. Being 6 or 7 weeks out from quitting coffee there is definitely something going on there! Melatonin is a hormone if that makes a difference. I am not a health professional - your actions are your own. Please do not seek tapering support via private message - "Any reason to hold is a good one" My taper visualised as a graph | My intro thread Backdrop: 2003 10mg olanzapine | 2004 2-3mg risperidone | end 2014 3wks aripiprazole 2015: olanzapine 10 -> 7½ -> 6⅔ -> 5mg by crude pill cutter 2018: Mar 5.00mg -> water titrated taper -> Aug2.5mg tablet and hold Jan 2019 2.50mg water titration -> Jan 2020 1.214 -> Jan 2021 0.44 -> 2 Oct 0.205 ->3 Oct ZERO🥂 Jun 2023 💉150mg paliperidone "loading" depot shot, 100mg 1wk after Jul 100mg Aug-Dec 75mg/4wks Jul 2023 2.50mg aripiprazole/day attempt to lower prolactin^ Jan-Feb 2024 cross taper off shots to 1mg risperidone Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country did to you" -- KMFDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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