Hopela: 10mg Zyprexa / olanzapine too fast taper

[Hopela]

On 8/7/2021 at 4:20 PM, DataGuy said:

How long have you been experiencing 5 brain zaps per day?

Hi @DataGuy. It's not every day. It's only in bed and they are mild zaps. Easy to forget them but they still happen actually. I thought I was rid of them completely and was for a while and who knows, didn't happen this night.

[Hopela]

I found these recent science sourced summaries on alcohol and metamphetamine hopeful with regards to recovering brain damagage after antipsychotics.

 

https://www.verywellmind.com/brain-cells-rebound-with-alcohol-abstinence-66614

https://www.verywellmind.com/brain-recovery-possible-for-meth-users-67583

 

Had some brain zaps this night. Also a rush of anxiety even with harder heart beats in evening before. Could be linked. Could be the anxiety reaction to what was a worrying thought is super charged by prior Zyprexa use. But hopefully upregulated signalling will fade away with more time if I'm lucky enough not to trigger it often.

 

[DataGuy]

That is great news, @Hopela. I will take a look at those. I found a guide online about recovering from alcohol-related brain damage. Have not read through it yet, but here is the link if you are interested. I think it is likely written for the lay person, especially as its intended for people with brain damage.

 

http://www.penumbra.org.uk/spotlight-articles/arbdtoolkit/

[Hopela]

Hi,
Things are okay. Lost another kilo of fat. No spasms. Fitness returning. Sleep not really back. I made sleep slightly worse by too frequent transcranial red light therapy, 4 times in two weeks, 6 minutes each, so the transcranial version I will cut back, even though duration was short. I believe it can be beneficial with longer intervals between, like 2 weeks or a month or so to let the brain adapt. Since cognitive improvements have been shown to be sustained two weeks after treatment or more there's no need to rush treatments. Body treatments can be done more often.

 

I'm considering gifting myself for christmas a comprehensive blood test and a supplement regime followed up by a blood test again. I'm thinking to rotate weekly, 1 or 2 simultaneous supplements, low doses. I will keep taking what I'm already on, vitamin D and Omega 3 continuously as a foundation.

 

I'm hoping to restore as much as possible and in possible areas supersede status prior to AP exposure. Priorities are health, fitness, longevity and probably in that order.

 

I guess I should get blood test results before ordering a supplement stack. But I've already filled the cart with stuff I've found interesting and anything specific I can order later. There's a lot of strategy and research behind approaching supplements and I surely still do not really know what I'm doing.

 

I'm trying to stay safe and mostly just get those positive effects that remain when the supplement is removed while avoiding negative adaptations (like prescription psychotropics create). Supplementing the body's ability to build a healthy system as opposed to drugging it for an instant difference. By rotating/trying multiple supplements I'll learn more plus I'll let the body figure out what to do with the supplements, possibly activating multiple pathways, which I feel is better than forcing long term a specific and rather unresearched (by the scientific community and me) supplement as if I knew what I was doing. A low dose short term unintended "toxin" can be dealt with while a low dose short term "nutrient" that was missing will be of unproportionate value. I'm also fairly stable in withdrawals with acceptable insomnia.

 

Here are the supplements I intend to try/rotate based on how I react:

 

Saffron+Cardamom (in hot water as tea already began this week as a christmas brew)

Berberine

Schisandra

Kelp
Fenugreek

Gotu Kola

NAC

 

Any advice welcome

[ChessieCat]

7 hours ago, Hopela said:

Here are the supplements I intend to try/rotate based on how I react:

 

Saffron+Cardamom (in hot water as tea already began this week as a christmas brew)

Berberine

Schisandra

Kelp
Fenugreek

Gotu Kola

NAC

 

Any advice welcome

 

There are many existing topics on SA.  I suggest that you do a search for the above.  You can use the site search function or an internet search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to the search term.

 

Also:

 

the-rule-of-3kis-keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable

 

[Hopela]

1 year celebration since coming off. Actually still some occasional muscle jerk that I don't recognize from before exposure. It's not inhibiting daily function in any way though. It's just a reminder of damage. I also got my first gray hairs a few weeks after the cold turkey. That remains. Could be a coincidence of course. Sleep is okay. Waking up at night but I do sleep again. Will I ever get 8 hours continuously? I'm hopefull. Barely suffering at current sleep amount. Weight has come down and fitness is okay. Everybody runs in to some problem at some point I guess and I was attacked and forcibly poisoned by health care. Two years of poisoning that aged me five. Other people get run over by no fault of their own either. Just a feeling of not quite the same. Pretty good timing during covid restrictions though. Lot's of people suffering now whether it be long covid or permanent V injuries. It's a dangerous world. Thanks for all who commented on my thread and sending some best wishes out to all in any form of recovery.

[DataGuy]

Congratulations @Hopela. Considering how severe your symptoms were when you first came off, you've been an incredible success story. Not everyone recovers as quickly as you have. Hope you are able to resume something resembling a normal life. Will always appreciate the research articles you posted, especially the one about brain volume recovery in anorexia. Thus far have not been able to find similar articles for drug damage recovery, but hopefully one or two are in the offing : )

[hayduke]

That is really good to hear you are steady and doing well there @Hopela

[hayduke]

Getting on OK there @Hopela?

[Hopela]

Getting on well. Thanks hayduke!

[DataGuy]

That is great to hear, @Hopela!

 

Hope things keep going well for you : )

[Hopela]

Thank you DataGuy and likewise!

[Jay78]

Glad you are doing well, you gave me a lot of hope in my thread with your post two years ago. We share similar drug histories although I was put on way more drugs for a lot longer but if we are fortunate and have good support it seems all of us can heal if we two have healed.