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Hi everyone,

 

I had been on 15 mg of mirtazapine for about ten days that I started a month ago. I had an increase in appetite, a return of emotions, felt interest in doing things. I felt I was back to normal. I was taking several cups of chamomile tea with it one night and found myself unable to sleep. I got out of bed and freaked when I learned that I had to be wary about herbal interactions. I went to the ER only to be sent home after no concern was shown. I decided to quit the mirtazapine in the following days. I experienced restlessness, tiny brain zaps, poorer sense of time, memory impairment, inability to sneeze. It never occurred to me to reinstate the drug. And now, 3 weeks later, I'm considering trying half the dose tonight (7.5 mg). I don't know if it's better to do that or to continue to tough it out, but my sleep has been poor. I'm very anxious of my nervous system damage and my mind has been preoccupied with it. This led me to be house-ridden and constant googling on the subject. I need some guidance and reassurance.

 

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2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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Sorry, I made the signature.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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I went ahead to take half dosage after waking up in the middle of the night. Experienced morning grogginess so I'm assuming I'm responding to the med.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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Hello Greyed

 

And welcome on SA  🤗

 

Thank you for your signature, this will help to see all your history at a glance.

 

Few questions to make sure we understand your situation :

 

1. what brought you to take Mirtazapine in July ?

 

2. Was Mirtazapine your first psych drug, or did you take others before July 2020 ?

 

3. "unable to sleep" : did it happen only one night or was it regular since you started Mirtazapine?

 

4. What are your symptoms since you reinstated 7.5mg ?

 

5. Currently, is Mirtazapine your only drug? Are you taking supplements?

 

2006 : 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam 2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : Reinstatement 20mg Paxil + Bromazepam

2014-June2017 : Switch from Bromazepam to Prazepam, slow taper to 0mg.

2018 to August 2019 : Paxil 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22 Aug 2019 updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg)

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paxil. 

April 2020 : Paxil 10mg to Prozac 7mg bridge. Details topic/21457-

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

Current medication :

* 1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

* Prozac : 6.64mg (4 Nov 2021) / 6.72mg (8 oct 2021) / 6.8 mg (15 Sept 2021)6.88mg (14 Aug 2021)/ 6.92mg (23 Jun 2021)

 

I am not a professional, I don't give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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2020 July 2X - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

 

What does 2X mean?  Is it a typing mistake?

 

Or does it mean that you took it in July sometime between 20th and 29th but you can't remember exactly?

 

If you can't remember exactly it would be better to put "about 22" or roughly when you think you took it.  Between 20th and 29th there are 10 days so it can make a difference to the suggestion we give you.

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

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Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

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greyed: sexual dysfunction & emotionless, need help

Hi,

 

Since reinstatement, my sleep recovered and I can function, but my emotions never returned. Soon after, I'm finding myself sexually compromised. I'm at a loss on what to do and cannot expect doctors in my area to be of help. I looked up Wellbutrin and find that it might help, but it can cause significant hair loss so I will not consider it. I'm contemplating between quitting cold turkey again and tapering. See my signature for details on my med duration.

 

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2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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I've merged your new topic with your original Introduction topic.  Only 1 Introduction topic per member.  This keeps your history in one place.

 

 

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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On 9/4/2020 at 10:19 AM, ChessieCat said:

2020 July 2X - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

 

What does 2X mean?  Is it a typing mistake?

 

Please answer my question about the 2X in your drug signature.  Thank you.

 

 

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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On 9/4/2020 at 5:22 AM, Erell said:

Hello Greyed

 

And welcome on SA  🤗

 

Thank you for your signature, this will help to see all your history at a glance.

 

Few questions to make sure we understand your situation :

 

1. what brought you to take Mirtazapine in July ?

 

2. Was Mirtazapine your first psych drug, or did you take others before July 2020 ?

 

3. "unable to sleep" : did it happen only one night or was it regular since you started Mirtazapine?

 

4. What are your symptoms since you reinstated 7.5mg ?

 

5. Currently, is Mirtazapine your only drug? Are you taking supplements?

 

 

Please answer Erell's questions.

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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On 9/3/2020 at 4:52 PM, Erell said:

Hello Greyed

 

And welcome on SA  🤗

 

Thank you for your signature, this will help to see all your history at a glance.

 

Few questions to make sure we understand your situation :

 

1. what brought you to take Mirtazapine in July ?

 

2. Was Mirtazapine your first psych drug, or did you take others before July 2020 ?

 

3. "unable to sleep" : did it happen only one night or was it regular since you started Mirtazapine?

 

4. What are your symptoms since you reinstated 7.5mg ?

 

5. Currently, is Mirtazapine your only drug? Are you taking supplements?

 

1. Depression.

 

2. No, I took citalopram in 2017 for about a month before quitting cold turkey. I don't remember the dosage and I experienced no withdrawals.

 

3. It started before and after quitting the mirtazapine cold turkey. I was getting mostly 3-4 hours a night.

 

4. Some drowsiness.

 

5. My only psych drug. I take fish oil, vitamin supplements, black seed oil.

 

On 9/3/2020 at 9:49 PM, ChessieCat said:

2020 July 2X - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

 

What does 2X mean?  Is it a typing mistake?

 

Or does it mean that you took it in July sometime between 20th and 29th but you can't remember exactly?

 

If you can't remember exactly it would be better to put "about 22" or roughly when you think you took it.  Between 20th and 29th there are 10 days so it can make a difference to the suggestion we give you.

 

Yes, it means I can't remember the exact day. I think it was in the 25-30 range.

 

Sorry for not checking back this thread. My signature has been updated.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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48 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

 

Please answer my question about the 2X in your drug signature.  Thank you.

 

 

 

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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Done.

 

I'm wondering if a fast taper is feasible, considering that I'm not on it a considerably long time. I'm going to try 7.5 mg for a few nights.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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It's up to you.  But if you start getting withdrawal symptoms it would be better to hold.

 

The brain likes consistency and does not like it when you keep yo-yoing your doses.

 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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Yes, the brain likes consistency. Been okay since Sunday night going with the 7.5 mg. I can function and getting out of bed isn't a chore, but my working memory isn't great and my emotions never recovered since cold turkey. Did any of you have emotional numbness and did it heal with time?

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    13 November 2021 -  0mg Pristiq      

Woohoo!!!  Finally off Pristiq   

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

My full tapering program     My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)    My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.  I do not provide tapering advice via PM.  Please post questions in your Introduction topic.  Please do not tag me for any reason.  I am an unpaid volunteer and assist members if I am able to and when I have the time.  Thank you for your understanding.

Mid Nov 2021 changed to low carb diet due to diabetes & cholesterol.  Lost 1/16 body weight, BP has reduced a lot. 

Links to my exercises and weights.  I also do 3 x 5.5 min with HIIT on exercise bike with 20 secs/min as fast as I can cycle.

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It's been almost a couple weeks now since I last updated. The 7.5 mg I had been on was sloppily done with a butter knife, cutting the 15 in half. A couple days ago I could get myself to really cry so that was something. I've tried pleasuring myself that I was putting off for weeks and, while I could function, found that the arousal feeling was lacking. I'm scared of the possibility with the permanency of this. I'm suspecting that the haphazard reinstatement had done it because I could feel normal arousal during three weeks of cold turkey. I'm at a loss on whether to get off the drug properly to avoid any more damage.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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I took an Advil for a headache almost a week ago and found that my sleep changed. I woke up at least once before my alarm time but could go back to sleep fine. When it was time to get up, I was excessively too tired to and got out of bed 2-3 hours later than my set wake-up time. At least the dreaming was nice.

 

I'm going to the doctor tomorrow for the 7.5 mg tablets. I hate that I'm in uncharted waters with this. My life is going to be at a standstill with this garbage.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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I'm feeling like my pre-CT state today, with the added benefit of being on 7.5 mg instead of the 15. I thought my working memory was too poor to do any gaming that needed memorization to be fun and I surprised myself tonight with how well I did. It wasn't very long ago when my mind was too hazy to enjoy it.

2020 July 28 - August 9: 15 mg Mirtazapine

Quit cold turkey. Experienced tiny brain zaps, dulled emotions, insomnia.

2020 September 2 - 4: reinstated with 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 4 - 12: went back to 15 mg Mirtazapine

2020 September 13 - present: reduced to 7.5 mg Mirtazapine

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