Mentor Greatful Posted July 28, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 28, 2021 @Mia1 Thanks I'm looking into it. How was your day? Mine has been up and down. I really wonder if I am in Xanax W/D also. I cut it more then half rather quickly last May. There is a small improvement in my thinking, brain still buzzing etc but getting some small clearing, maybe less fog. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I had a good day, busy but good. I think I’m entering w/d normal, not sick but not well either. That in between state, do you know what I mean? The twilight of recovery. You could definitely be in w/d from Xanax but you have been through so many med changes in such a short time, I think it would be hard to pinpoint one particular thing. At least you’re down to a small amount. How’s your schedule by the way, have the symptoms improved any since you moved it around? I think it’s fantastic you’re seeing improvement, it shows how resilient the brain really is, we’ll take what we can get, right? Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 29, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 29, 2021 @Mia1 It is good things are coming together for you🥰 You have worked so hard. You deserve it. Not sure what W/D normal is. Does it mean you still have symptoms but they are less sever? The thing I think has helped with moving the Lex to noon is I sleep a little bit deeper. I don't think the split in the Xanax is really that different. I still get anxiety in my stomach and in general. I am wondering if my intense brain, like I have panic or anxiety in my brain, are from the lex over stimulating me. Nothing makes sense at this point and there really is not point at trying to figure it out, because you never will. I really miss being more active, less house bound. Not just because of my ocd but I have to watch how stimulated I get, so visiting and carrying conversations, hearing people talk or I should say their voices can be stimulating it makes my brain go crazy after awhile. Beside it is hard to want to go and/ or socialize when you feel awful. You can fake it for a little while but it catches up with me. It is true though, The days can go by slow but the weeks go by fast. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Greatful said: @Mia1 It is good things are coming together for you🥰 You have worked so hard. You deserve it. Not sure what W/D normal is. Does it mean you still have symptoms but they are less sever? Thank you, I’m not there yet but feel like I’m getting close. The neuro emotions continue to be an issue for me just in terms of overall recovery because my nervous system is being activated by them daily. Yes, you still have symptoms when w/d normal but they are consistent and manageable. 12 hours ago, Greatful said: I don't think the split in the Xanax is really that different. I still get anxiety in my stomach and in general. I am wondering if my intense brain, like I have panic or anxiety in my brain, are from the lex over stimulating me. Nothing makes sense at this point and there really is not point at trying to figure it out, because you never will. Had you ever taken a benzo before this? I honestly think it’s a combination of all the drug changes, it’s remarkable you’re doing as well as you are. It shows you are taking care of yourself and healing quickly, even though it may not feel like it. Look at how many drugs were started and stopped, decreased and added. The important thing to focus on now is stability and then you can gradually decrease. And you’re on small doses so that’s in your favor. 12 hours ago, Greatful said: I really miss being more active, less house bound. Not just because of my ocd but I have to watch how stimulated I get, so visiting and carrying conversations, hearing people talk or I should say their voices can be stimulating it makes my brain go crazy after awhile. Beside it is hard to want to go and/ or socialize when you feel awful. You can fake it for a little while but it catches up with me. I continue to have issues with being overstimulated in social settings and like you it’s just an issue of my nervous system being activated. I was inspired by you however going to the pool party and made plans this weekend for my husband and I to go out with another couple. It’ been over a month since I’ve done this so I’m curious to see how it goes. I understand what you’re saying though, wanting things to be back to normal. I just look at it like I’m on a summer spiritual retreat of healing. There are retreats like this where people pay a lot of money to disconnect from the world so they can connect more with themselves. We get to do this for free!! And the one constant in life is change so enjoy this time you have, it won’t be forever. 1 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 29, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 29, 2021 @Mia1 20 minutes ago, Mia1 said: I was inspired by you however going to the pool party and made plans this weekend for my husband and I to go out with another couple. I am glad that I can return the encouragement back to you. You have done so much to help me out. You graciously passed on your knowledge you learned and really made a difference in me trying to find a direction to go to help myself. I think I would have floundered and lost hope right away. You are helping me find my way out of this maze.🥰 24 minutes ago, Mia1 said: Had you ever taken a benzo before this? I I have had Xanax in my possession for many years, first got them for flying. I really didn't use them much until my last crash in 2014. It's funny but as I am learning here about these drugs etc. I know now that that crash played out just like this one. Only that time I went to the hospital, (boy did I learn that was a huge mistake). I was on and off may meds then too, well I am sure I was in W/D from stopping the Lex. I was using more Xanax then. Didn't know any better or how to get off and it took me over a year to really stabilize. I think I was in Benzo W/D at that time too. Of course my pdoc couldn't figure out why it was taking me so long to stabilize after we finally stopped switching meds and landed on Prozac, hence that's when we started the Lamictal. I don't know, that was so long ago, maybe I am remembering it all wrong. I look back on my med records (requested a copy when I switched doc) it almost made me sick the meds I went though that time to. I can see where doctors start to go with the thought "You are med resistance" ( I even have that in the back of my mind, do I need meds, but there isn't one out there to help me) There is nothing we can do for you. Or pile on many drugs. Probably you were in adverse affects from a med or in W/D. I really want to see this all the way through and see who I am when I am free of the meds. 34 minutes ago, Mia1 said: I just look at it like I’m on a summer spiritual retreat of healing. There are retreats like this where people pay a lot of money to disconnect from the world so they can connect more with themselves Thank You again! I needed to hear that. I am always worrying about what other people are thinking (my kids also) I am a failure in my eyes and I mind read their feelings thinking they think I am a failure. See I am learning some cognitive skills! I want to be apart of their lives. If I think back, how much time did my parents consume my life? We were busy raising our own family and being with our friends. But your right that will come with time and I need to find and take care of myself. My children are adults' , they have their own live now and I need to let them go. In all reality I'm sure they worry about me, but I am not the center of their universe. Wow! That's a big epiphany for me. I am not the center of their universe. I can let go........... Really Mia I should be paying you as my therapist...... It brings tears to my eyes how much I am discovering about myself and you are right there by my side♥️ I filled up your thread again 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 47 minutes ago, Greatful said: I am glad that I can return the encouragement back to you. You have done so much to help me out. You graciously passed on your knowledge you learned and really made a difference in me trying to find a direction to go to help myself. I think I would have floundered and lost hope right away. You are helping me find my way out of this maze.🥰 The work you have done on yourself has been an inspiration to me and countless others on this site. I do believe God puts those people in our lives who are meant to help and guide us and it is always mutual. We are helping each other back to sanity ❤️ 55 minutes ago, Greatful said: Probably you were in adverse affects from a med or in W/D. I can definitely relate to this story. I had no idea what resistance w/d was until I found this site. Looking back over the many years I was on these drugs I experienced this and the doctors just assumed it was “my anxiety” and would increase or add more drugs. Always the same thing, increase or add drugs, an endless cycle. It’s so empowering to break this cycle. 1 hour ago, Greatful said: I really want to see this all the way through and see who I am when I am free of the meds. This really can be a profound journey if we allow it. There are times I have these feelings I haven’t felt since I was a child, it’s like seeing things for the first time. I’m excited for you!! 1 hour ago, Greatful said: I can let go........... You really can, let it all go and learn to live in the present moment where there are never any problems. NEVER. 1 hour ago, Greatful said: Really Mia I should be paying you as my therapist...... It brings tears to my eyes how much I am discovering about myself and you are right there by my side♥️ I filled up your thread again I’m honored to be a part of your journey. ❤️ 1 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 @GreatfulI think that when you find something that works for you, you should stick with it. Trying too many things, especially when we’re in w/d can be counterproductive. I found that acknowledging, accepting and refocusing was and continues to be the best technique I can use. Focusing with our mind is very very different than focusing with awareness and the distinction can be confusing since a lot of this is feeling based. Awareness does not require the mind. I have these moments where I feel a lot of space to do this work but then when I don’t I find myself trying to cling, which is just another aspect of fear. It can’t be forced. I always go back to acceptance. I wanted to share this because I feel bad I may have confused you yesterday. You’re on a great path towards healing and you should stick to what you’re doing as your main practice. You also have a really good therapist who sounds like she’s helping you. Let me know how you’re doing today. 😊 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 31, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 31, 2021 @Mia1 Your the best☺️ You are just months ahead of me with retraining the brain. My guess is that some how it all ties together. One technique can foster the next or new technique. Some times I can pull back and just see my thought as separate from me and just watch at it. Sometimes I am not in a place to just observe it, then it is good to redirect. I know that I have to work on cognitive distortion also. I am very negative with myself and I know that distortion play apart in them. I guess you can say the distortions are connected to a lot of emotions. I really think all these technique complement each other. Have a great time going out with your friends. Remember not to over stimulate yourself. Let me know how it goes.❤️ 2 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 1, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 1, 2021 @Mia1 checking to see how it went for your outing with friends? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hi @GreatfulI have some good news. I went out both yesterday and today and felt only slightly stimulated. A month ago I would have felt so irritated in social settings and my brain would have raced afterwards where I couldn’t even think straight. I had no idea how much healing had taken place. I’m honestly surprised and I want to thank you SO much. If I wasn’t inspired by your strength when you went to the pool party I wouldn’t have done this for at least another month. You make such a difference ❤️ It goes to show how healing really does take place even when we’re not aware of it. How are you? 1 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 2, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 2, 2021 @Mia1 That is awesome😊 How are you feeling now? You may have to take it easy for a couple of days. I am glad that I could help in a small way. 2 hours ago, Mia1 said: my brain would have raced afterwards where I couldn’t even think straight. This happened to me on Friday when the neighbor lady stopped my on my walk, some how ended up in their house looking at hardwood floor. Her husband joined us and let me tell you he is a talker. I bet it was 1 1/2 before I got home. My head was a mess, I was starving and had a melt down. I ate lunch and went and meditated. I have been pushing myself a little the last few days. Friday was a little rough, Saturday was busy and I got a little over stimulated. Today I was gone almost the whole day church, out to lunch, Cosco, came home meditated went to Home Depot and I don't feel to bad, not 100% good, but I will take the break from the wave.🌊 Please, please no backwards slide. My brain actually feel about 75% better tonight. Can we hope that we will feel good tomorrow.....please......... I have to Thank you from the bottom of my heart.♥️ I really think the meditation and brain work you have been teaching me has made the biggest difference. Learning to not let my thoughts control me. Man it is hard but I hope as the days go by and I keep working on it will get easier. Of course it really helps when my brain is actually thinking the right way. Hey, I figured out how I can explain the way my feel and why it is hard to think when it is scrabble. Think of the mirrors at the fairs were you look all crazy and distorted, well that is my brain.🤪 To a great day tomorrow😍 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Greatful said: @Mia1 That is awesome😊 How are you feeling now? I feel slightly stimulated but overall it’s an improvement. 11 hours ago, Greatful said: I don't feel to bad, not 100% good, but I will take the break from the wave.🌊 Please, please no backwards slide. My brain actually feel about 75% better tonight. Can we hope that we will feel good tomorrow.....please.... This is fantastic news, to start to feel good. It’s like you can forget what that’s like so when it comes it’s such a gift. Enjoy every moment, you deserve it!! 11 hours ago, Greatful said: I have to Thank you from the bottom of my heart.♥️ I really think the meditation and brain work you have been teaching me has made the biggest difference. You’re very welcome. I always say it but meditation is the single thing that has helped me the most. It really helps to figure out what’s happening in the mind. Start to change the program by making the unconscious conscious. Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Greatful said: I figured out how I can explain the way my feel and why it is hard to think when it is scrabble. Think of the mirrors at the fairs were you look all crazy and distorted, well that is my brain.🤪 I LOVE this, it’s a great analogy and how I feel too!! 12 hours ago, Greatful said: To a great day tomorrow😍 You’re going to start to have great weeks and months and then years, I’m so happy for you ❤️ Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 2, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 2, 2021 @Mia1 I am feeling it today. The shades are half closed on my window.😞 I hope that it does shut all the way. I keep feeling like I am going to panic. I have to keep reminding myself that I am okay, there is nothing that is going to hurt me. These ups and downs almost feel like bi polar. How is your day going? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Hi @Greatful I’m just so happy you had an entire window, even if it didn’t last long. That’s such a good sign more are coming!! I know what you mean though, when I have a moment I feel well and then the symptoms come back I start to feel anxious. For me, it’s the resistance to symptoms coming back. The ups and downs are crazy for sure but at least we know what they are and how to manage. My day is going well, I did a long nature walk followed by a guided meditation. I’m grateful I can devote whole days to doing stuff like this, it’s so healing. I haven’t had an actual window yet, it’s been so long I honestly don’t know the last time I did. For me, I’m able to recognize healing as my symptoms slowly start to decrease. Looking forward to the windows!! I came across this quote I want to share with you, I thought it was really funny: 1 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 2, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 2, 2021 @Mia1 Thanks I got a chuckle out of that. 1 hour ago, Mia1 said: For me, it’s the resistance to symptoms coming back I am not sure if it is resistance for me. I really feel a sense of panic. When I stop and remind myself that everything is okay and that God will take care of everything I settle down and I can think rational about it. But it is a under line sensation. Of course then the anxiety/resistance will start in. Worrying about thoughts and what could be causing me to feel fearful. Mild depression is coming in too. I am trying to color code my issues I'll call them my issues.. so today I am looking a gray spot in my mind that is separate from me and saying the depression is not me, just W/D. All in all it is better then even 2 weeks ago.😊 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, Greatful said: I really feel a sense of panic. When I stop and remind myself that everything is okay and that God will take care of everything I settle down and I can think rational about it. But it is a under line sensation. Of course then the anxiety/resistance will start in. So do you think you are feeling w/d panic? Really great self soothing, I actually do something similar. 37 minutes ago, Greatful said: I am trying to color code my issues I'll call them my issues.. so today I am looking a gray spot in my mind that is separate from me and saying the depression is not me, just W/D. All in all it is better then even 2 weeks ago.😊 This is SUCH great work!! I honestly think you’re accelerating your healing with all the work you do coupled with your amazing attitude, keep it up!! Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 2, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 2, 2021 @@Mia1 15 minutes ago, Mia1 said: So do you think you are feeling w/d panic? I think it is a combination of trauma fear that is morphed with the W/D. 15 minutes ago, Mia1 said: amazing attitude, I am not sure my attitude is all that good, self doubts constantly. I just know have to do something and keep moving forward.🏃♀️ Besides I have you and everyone else on here in the same boat cheering each other on.😊 I am so glad to have found SA and you. I don't know where I would be with it. 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 5, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 5, 2021 @Mia1 Hi, I hope you don't mind but I tagged you to Andypants thread. He is looking for guidance for meditation and who else would be a more qualified teacher😊 I did start painting on my bathroom. It did help bring down the anger. Hopefully I will feel like working on it more tomorrow. How are you feeling? I am sorry you got hit with a wave😞 I think something is in the air. So many are struggling right now. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Greatful said: @Mia1 Hi, I hope you don't mind but I tagged you to Andypants thread. He is looking for guidance for meditation and who else would be a more qualified teacher😊 No problem, I’m happy to help if I can and appreciate your confidence in me!! 13 hours ago, Greatful said: I did start painting on my bathroom. It did help bring down the anger. Hopefully I will feel like working on it more tomorrow. That’s great!! 13 hours ago, Greatful said: How are you feeling? I am sorry you got hit with a wave😞 I think something is in the air. So many are struggling right now. It’s pretty intense at the moment but I’m doing okay, I appreciate you asking. I hope you have a good day today, let me know how you do 😊 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
KittenLePurr Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 3:10 PM, Mia1 said: Hi @Greatful I’m just so happy you had an entire window, even if it didn’t last long. That’s such a good sign more are coming!! I know what you mean though, when I have a moment I feel well and then the symptoms come back I start to feel anxious. For me, it’s the resistance to symptoms coming back. The ups and downs are crazy for sure but at least we know what they are and how to manage. My day is going well, I did a long nature walk followed by a guided meditation. I’m grateful I can devote whole days to doing stuff like this, it’s so healing. I haven’t had an actual window yet, it’s been so long I honestly don’t know the last time I did. For me, I’m able to recognize healing as my symptoms slowly start to decrease. Looking forward to the windows!! I came across this quote I want to share with you, I thought it was really funny: I LOVE this ❤️ Checking in on you two, @Greatfuland @Mia1... Y'all are both doing so great, even when you're not feeling it ❤️ 1990s Zoloft, Prozac, and a litany of other drugs including mood stabilizers 1998 Effexor 140mg and Remeron 40mg (I think) - quit cold turkey 2006 and NO W/D! Oh, to be young again... 2004 Lorazepam 0.5mg; switched to Klonipin 2010 2010 Klonipin 1-2mg/day - decreased gradually down to 0.35mg 2016-2017 & held, then tapered off April-July 2020 2012 Lexapro and Seraquil/Remeron - quit CT 2012 after 1 month of use 2013 Methadone 80mg (for heroin addiction;) decreased to 30mg 2016-2021 2014 Effexor 75mg - tapered off over 1.5 weeks by doc 2017 2017 Citalopram 20mg - started tapering Dec. 2019-March 2020; got down to 14.35 mg then paused to taper off Klonipin 2021 - Citalopram down to 12.8mg in April; July 11.52mg, August 10mg, Oct 9mg, Nov 8.1mg, Dec 7.8mg 2022 - Citalopram 7.4mg 2023 - September - off methadone! FINALLY OPIOID-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Supplements: Tryptophan, 5-HTP, Tyrosine, vitamin D, topical magnesium, ashwagandha, phenibut, lion's mane, CBD, GABA Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, KittenLePurr said: Checking in on you two, @Greatfuland @Mia1... Y'all are both doing so great, even when you're not feeling it ❤️ Thanks, I feel like I’m doing really well. I have this feeling of terror lately, day and night. But because of all the work I have done I mostly feel like I’m floating above it. Even in a wave I feel peace. We we are all doing such great work and should be proud of ourselves. It doesn’t happen overnight but progress and healing is really happening everyday. Here’s to us!!🎉❤️ Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 6, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 6, 2021 @Mia1 3 hours ago, Mia1 said: But because of all the work I have done I mostly feel like I’m floating above it. Even in a wave I feel peace. I got a smile on my face when I think of you floating around 🙃 Please work your magic in my brain.☺️ I want to know how you float over depression and the si and negative thoughts. 😞 I know I can say the thoughts are just thoughts, but the depression, I can usually deal with it when it is just at a 1 -5 (out of 10) but when it is at a 8 or higher it is so crippling and heavy. I want to float or go sleep until it lifts. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Greatful said: I got a smile on my face when I think of you floating Lol, I can’t wait until I can do it all the time!! 1 hour ago, Greatful said: I want to know how you float over depression and the si and negative thoughts. 😞 I know I can say the thoughts are just thoughts, but the depression, I can usually deal with it when it is just at a 1 -5 (out of 10) but when it is at a 8 or higher it is so crippling and heavy. I want to float or go sleep until it lifts. It’s all about getting out of your head and into the present moment. Observing with your awareness and not your mind. So putting your focus on awareness and just becoming the observer. Let everything come and go without judgement or attachment. It’s literally a practice in becoming a river or stream, just float on down and don’t worry about what’s going to happen. The river doesn’t worry if it has to go around a rock, it comes to the rock and effortlessly moves around it. That’s what we practice in meditation. How to live effortlessly by becoming the observer of what is happening and not what is actually happening. Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 8, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 8, 2021 @Mia1 How are you doing? Did you have a nice weekend? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 9, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 9, 2021 @Mia1 Found this information on PAWS. Looks like there was a study using 96 members form SA. I really want to send this to my daughter, the one who is practicing as a Psych NP and she has 2 children on ssrt's. We need more studies to get out there in the med field. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2045125320980573 Here is a link. copy and paste into your brouser. I do not know how they post links on here for you to just open it. Do you know how? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 @Greatfulthat was a really interesting article, I appreciate you sharing with me. I was able to click on the link you sent so whatever you did worked!! How are you doing today? Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Yersinia Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Hi @Mia1 - I saw on AndyPants' thread that you recommended listening to "sleep sounds" when resting in bed... I'm wondering what sleep sound files you listen to? Any recommendations? Thanks for all that you post - your thoughts on insomnia and meditation are really helpful. 1 2004 - prozac then wellbutrin (don't recall dosages) 2005 - 150 mg Effexor Rx (or generic equivalent) April 28, 2021 first day without Effexor after very rapid titration off (probably equivalent to CT). July 23, 2021 Reinstatement of ~3mg of Venlafaxine ER (~8.9mg of capsule material). 50 mg Chelated Magnesium, 4X a day 1000mg DHA+EPA Fish oil 2X day Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 12, 2021 @Mia1 Stopping by to see how you are doing today? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 @YersiniaI alternate between rain sounds and blizzard sounds, they are both very comforting to me. I found them on YouTube, they are between 6-10 hours with no advertising. If you’re interested let me know and I’ll share the links with you. I’m so happy my posts could help you, thank you for the kind words. I believe you took some time off the site, how did that go for you? @Greatfulthanks for stopping by, I appreciate it. I still have the neuro emotions, felt insanely furious with my husband for making a suggestion this morning. I was able to come back to center a little easier so that was positive. It reminds me to be kind to myself, I’m doing the best I can. How are are you doing? I’m curious what you decide to do with your taper, I think it will help me because we experience similar symptoms and we’re both wondering at what point do we just start to taper again. Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Surviving82 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 10:01 AM, Greatful said: @Mia1 Found this information on PAWS. Looks like there was a study using 96 members form SA. I really want to send this to my daughter, the one who is practicing as a Psych NP and she has 2 children on ssrt's. We need more studies to get out there in the med field. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2045125320980573 Here is a link. copy and paste into your brouser. I do not know how they post links on here for you to just open it. Do you know how? @Greatful, thank you for sharing. I saw this article before I even found SA, when I was looking for answers what may be happening to me. It is terrifying that between 10 and 15% of people in the US are on these drugs at any given time. Truly frightening what they do to some of us... My thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24990-surviving82-my-story-wd-from-antidepressants-please-help/ 2016-2017: sertraline for approx. 1.5 years for anxiety and OCD outbreak following birth of my son (all the way from 2mg to 200mg), rapid tapered from 150mg for about 6 weeks without issues. Approximately 2 years psych drug free. Nov 2019 - Feb 2020: fluvoxamine to prevent anxiety/OCD outbreak following birth of my daughter. Had to go off due to constant somnolence. Feb 2020 - Dec 2020: started escitalopram while rapid tapering fluvoxamine. After 9 months decided to get off due to weight gain, rapid tapered from [I think] 15mg for about 6 weeks without immediate issues. March-April 2021: started excessive strenuous exercise and dieting regimen for weight loss. Was doing great (or so I thought) for 3 weeks until early April 2021 when out of nowhere massive panic attacks, other dysautonomia symptoms. AWFUL CRASH. Mid-April 2021: fluoxetine 10mg for 1 week then 20mg for 1 week. Massive side effects, suicidality. Was told to go CT. Side effects gradually started resolving. Mid-Late May 2021: sertraline for 11 days, fine at low doses but same side effects as prozac at 25 to 50mg. Was told to either drop CT or hold at 1/4 of a 25mg pill. April-May 2021: trazodone 50mg PRN for sleep. Do not take every day, the only side effect I noticed is dry mouth. June 8, 2021: stopped all psych meds. Truing to trust that with God's help, my body will heal on its own. September 9, 2021: reinstated escitalopram 1mg. Gradually worked up to 2.5mg by September 30. Reinstatement seems to be helping! Other: Hashimoto thyroiditis for 11 years (on levothyroxine varying doses, between 88mcg and 125mcg), history of anxiety/GAD including health anxiety, OCD. History of autonomic dysfunction (migraines, vasovagal episodes). Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 12, 2021 @Mia1 This W/D is for the birds....I am all over the place today. I woke up with the worst nausea and felt like I could almost throw up. I really feel a shift is going on in my body, hard to explain. Feel the old me underneath the surface, then switch back to panic and feeling the fear I felt as a child, then sad, then hyper, then panic sick feeling in my stomach. This is going to sound crazy but I have been having some of my social phobia ocd with my husband the last few days. Scared to be around him at times. What is happening in my brain......... I think it is causing me to lose the battle over my thoughts ..........."What happens if I get were I can't be around him and I start to avoid him because I can't handle the anxiety" etc. Help when will this craziness stop. It started out earlier in the week were I had noise sensations and I could hardly stand to here him talk, then I think my brain that is not working right decided to add in the social phobia into the mix.... Have a appt. with my therapist in 5 min I will finish this later HELP!!!!!!!! https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Yersinia Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 @Mia1 Please share the YouTube links to your sleep sounds. Thanks! My break from SA was good but I started lurking around again a few days ago. I can't stop reading people's threads and it's not helping my anxiety. Ugh. I know I shouldn't feed my anxiety but I'm so bad at stopping it and redirecting my thoughts elsewhere. I'm trying to get a meditation practice off the ground using Jon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness-based Stress Reduction program but it's so intimidating. When I sit down to meditate, I can't even string two breaths together without my brain wandering off. Last night, I got so frustrated that I actually beat my hands together in a tantrum. Maybe it was a neuro-emotion but I've done stuff like that all my life. Just spazzed out like that. I feel hopeless and scared. (Sorry to dump this on your thread.) 2004 - prozac then wellbutrin (don't recall dosages) 2005 - 150 mg Effexor Rx (or generic equivalent) April 28, 2021 first day without Effexor after very rapid titration off (probably equivalent to CT). July 23, 2021 Reinstatement of ~3mg of Venlafaxine ER (~8.9mg of capsule material). 50 mg Chelated Magnesium, 4X a day 1000mg DHA+EPA Fish oil 2X day Link to comment
Surviving82 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greatful said: @Mia1 This W/D is for the birds....I am all over the place today. I woke up with the worst nausea and felt like I could almost throw up. I really feel a shift is going on in my body, hard to explain. Feel the old me underneath the surface, then switch back to panic and feeling the fear I felt as a child, then sad, then hyper, then panic sick feeling in my stomach. This is going to sound crazy but I have been having some of my social phobia ocd with my husband the last few days. Scared to be around him at times. What is happening in my brain......... I think it is causing me to lose the battle over my thoughts ..........."What happens if I get were I can't be around him and I start to avoid him because I can't handle the anxiety" etc. Help when will this craziness stop. It started out earlier in the week were I had noise sensations and I could hardly stand to here him talk, then I think my brain that is not working right decided to add in the social phobia into the mix.... Have a appt. with my therapist in 5 min I will finish this later HELP!!!!!!!! @Greatful, we have different triggers but otherwise I feel that we are going through a very similar thing. I too sometimes feel the old me shining through and then anxiety and panic drown me again and I turn into anxiety zombie. Instable emotions, and oh my favorite - the sick panic feeling to my stomach! Same crazy "what if this, what if that" scenarios, phobias etc. After I did that meditation I was a lot like my old self but unfortunately that didnt last long. Ugh. I hope your appt goes well and productive! My thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24990-surviving82-my-story-wd-from-antidepressants-please-help/ 2016-2017: sertraline for approx. 1.5 years for anxiety and OCD outbreak following birth of my son (all the way from 2mg to 200mg), rapid tapered from 150mg for about 6 weeks without issues. Approximately 2 years psych drug free. Nov 2019 - Feb 2020: fluvoxamine to prevent anxiety/OCD outbreak following birth of my daughter. Had to go off due to constant somnolence. Feb 2020 - Dec 2020: started escitalopram while rapid tapering fluvoxamine. After 9 months decided to get off due to weight gain, rapid tapered from [I think] 15mg for about 6 weeks without immediate issues. March-April 2021: started excessive strenuous exercise and dieting regimen for weight loss. Was doing great (or so I thought) for 3 weeks until early April 2021 when out of nowhere massive panic attacks, other dysautonomia symptoms. AWFUL CRASH. Mid-April 2021: fluoxetine 10mg for 1 week then 20mg for 1 week. Massive side effects, suicidality. Was told to go CT. Side effects gradually started resolving. Mid-Late May 2021: sertraline for 11 days, fine at low doses but same side effects as prozac at 25 to 50mg. Was told to either drop CT or hold at 1/4 of a 25mg pill. April-May 2021: trazodone 50mg PRN for sleep. Do not take every day, the only side effect I noticed is dry mouth. June 8, 2021: stopped all psych meds. Truing to trust that with God's help, my body will heal on its own. September 9, 2021: reinstated escitalopram 1mg. Gradually worked up to 2.5mg by September 30. Reinstatement seems to be helping! Other: Hashimoto thyroiditis for 11 years (on levothyroxine varying doses, between 88mcg and 125mcg), history of anxiety/GAD including health anxiety, OCD. History of autonomic dysfunction (migraines, vasovagal episodes). Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Greatful said: I woke up with the worst nausea and felt like I could almost throw up. I’m so sorry to hear this, I’ve been having a lot of physical symptoms myself. You take such good care of yourself, you’ll feel better soon. 35 minutes ago, Greatful said: I really feel a shift is going on in my body, hard to explain. Feel the old me underneath the surface, then switch back to panic and feeling the fear I felt as a child, then sad, then hyper, then panic sick feeling in my stomach. Could this be positive, you’re feeling the healing take place in your brain and that’s why there’s this constant activity? 37 minutes ago, Greatful said: This is going to sound crazy but I have been having some of my social phobia ocd with my husband the last few days. Scared to be around him at times. What is happening in my brain......... I don’t think it’s crazy at all. It honestly sounds like your brain is in overdrive and your anxiety is looking for something to latch onto. And what better way for anxiety to feed than try to convince you to be scared of the one person who really supports you. It’s a scary thought. But please remember it’s only a thought that has triggered a strong emotion that you’ve attached to. You decide if you’ll be scared or not, not anxiety. I know it can seem scary in the moment but you know what’s happening and you know how to handle it. You observe your thoughts and the sensations they may produce, you accept it as a temporary bump in the w/d road and you focus off of it. Anxiety is a small monster that that wants to be fed. When we feed it our thoughts and emotions it only becomes bigger and stronger. When we starve it enough times it will go away. It may come back from time to time to test the waters but if you consistently starve this monster it will keep going away. Remember you are the observer of the experience, not the experience itself. Just step back and observe what is happening in the moment. I’m here for you 💗 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mia1 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 @Yersiniathese are my two favorite ones, I hope you enjoy them! 49 minutes ago, Yersinia said: Ugh. I know I shouldn't feed my anxiety but I'm so bad at stopping it and redirecting my thoughts elsewhere. I'm trying to get a meditation practice off the ground using Jon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness-based Stress Reduction program but it's so intimidating. Yes, it becomes a habit that has a strong pull. The meditation should help you with this. Don’t be intimidated by meditating, there is truly no right or wrong way to do it. The whole point is just to step back and observe what is happening in the moment. You are just becoming awareness. 52 minutes ago, Yersinia said: I feel hopeless and scared. (Sorry to dump this on your thread.) Hey, you are doing the work and changing years and years of conditioned behavior. This takes strength and courage so be patient and kind to yourself, you deserve that. I’m so happy you shared with me, thank you ❤️ Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
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