DutchMaddy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Hello everybody! I am a 63 year old female from the netherlands and in severe protracted withdrawal. I am drugfree since 29 July 2020. I stopped my Prozac after 10 years because it did not help anymore and then got 3 other drugs from my Pdoc. They did not help either and so I tapered everything ( to fast !did not now SA then) with taperingstrips from the dutch Farmacie in the Netherlands, ( the first one to make taperingstrips for people all over the world. See. www.taperingstrip.nl. The send them to you, any drug you want. It is so nice that we have those strips but they are a bit expensive. They are trying to get them insured for everybody. It cost around 80 euroś per month. I did not know that i had to taper 10 % so I did it to fast. I have been lurking on SA for a long time now everyday. It helped me so much..... I am so gratefull for Altostrata and all the moderators. Because of this site i now know that it will pass, this terrible terrible state i am in after 4 months tapering and 3 months off drugs all together. I have red every successtory over and over again. It is hard to beleave that I am in this situattion, 1 year off work, at home, anxiety through te roof, depressed, flulike symtoms grrrrr Other symtoms i have now in protracted withdrawal anxiety crying spells depersonalisation (feeling detached from your surroundings) depression disturbed sleep fatigue (feeling very weary) Derealization mood swings poor concentration and memory suicidal thoughts. When i was tapering from my last ad i had the following symptoms Dizziness or vertigo electric shock sensations in head flu-like symptoms problems with movement, such as problems with balance or walking, or involuntary movements sensory disturbance, such as smelling something that isn't there stomach cramps and bloating strange dreams Depression and anxiety I have a question for the moderators. Can I also count the years after stopping Prozac in 2018 as withdrawal, so theat I am now 2 years in withrawal instead of 3 months since l am drug free? and, I sometimes take 0,25 alprazolam for sleep because I only sleep for three hours ( wich is not a problem but I am so anxious the next day) I only use them 1 every week for 1 good night sleep I have no other medication!! Melatonine also helps but only for 3 hours. I also take magnesium 300 and fish oil and vit C I am so hopeless sometimes, affraid of losing my job.. It is such an unknown syndrome and also in the Netherlands they will reinstate you to fast because thet think it is relapse. I wish everybody faith and hugs!! especially with Covid 19 Maddy Edited October 25, 2020 by Gridley 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted October 25, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 25, 2020 Welcome to SA, DutchMaddy. To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly. A list format is best. You'll need to use a computer rather than a phone. Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. Yes, you would count the years after stopping Prozac in 2018 as withdrawal, so that you're 2 years in withdrawal. Probably you're in the acute phase from the drugs you stopped on July 29, 2020 and the protracted phase from the Prozac. The symptoms you describe are typical withdrawal symptoms. So that you have a better idea of what you're experiencing, here is some information on withdrawal and the healing process. What is withdrawal syndrome. Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. These explain the healing process really well. Brain Remodelling Video: Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that ae single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements). Here are some links to help with anxiety. Audio: How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes VIDEO: Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg) Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help … 10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall And here are some links to help with sleep. Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952 This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills. Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia. Melatonin for sleep I don't know how much you're taking. Too much can cause a paradoxical effect (keep you awake). It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose. We also recommend non-drug coping skills to deal with withdrawal. Non-drug techniques to cope This is your Introduction topic, where you can complete your drug signature, questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Thank you very much Gridley voor you’re fast answer. I will fill in my signature Tomorrow! 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
Clairest Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Hello Maddy. I see in your signature that you are "AD free since 29 July 2020". How are your protracted withdrawal symptoms now? How are you doing these days? Edit: we are crossposting in different topics now... how confusing. I hope you don't mind me posting what you wrote in the other topic? You wrote: "I am doing better. More windows. Not using anything. No supplements no benzo’s or sleeping pills. Now 7 months off." That is good news! I am glad for you. Has your sleeping become normal by now? I can see "disturbed sleep" in your list of symptoms is highlighted. It is my main problem now. 2000 Saint John's Wort 2001-2020 Paroxetine 20 mg november 2020 - february 2021 Fluoxetine, sort of cross-taper with Paroxetine I started a tapering strip on December 13th to taper off paroxetine from 10 mg to zero in 28 days, last dose of 0.5 mg was on January 9th. December 13th - February 11th Fluoxetine 20 mg (61 days) February 12th - February 18th Fluoxetine 10 mg (7 days) No Fluoxetine anymore since February 19th February 21-22: started Saint John's Wort and reinstated 1.2 mg Paroxetine https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24323-clairest-in-the-netherlands-19-years-on-paroxetine/ Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 Thanks Claire! I will react later! 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
RusTW Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 With the changes you made on your meds it will take time. Don't spend time trying to figure out your mistakes . You were put on medications for a reason and you will have to learn to understand yourself as you heal March-2017-Dec-2017 ativanCT /reinstated ativan 1mg tapered 2 months/June 2017-April 2018 zyprexa 10mg switched to seroquel 200-300mg in april 2018/dec-2017-present zoloft 100mg/ quit seroquel 200-300mg cold turkey May 6 2018 reinstated seroquel 100mg around May 25 2018 since then tapered to 50mg zoloft and 50 mg of seroquel presently other medications Testosterone cypionate 2oomg every 4 days UPDATE -August 20 2018--october 20 2018 tapered off Testosterone/Nov 7 2018 --Dec 20 2018 Lamictal micro dose 2.50mg 1 1/2 weeks then reduced to 1.25 then fast tapered as it became paridoxial.nausea- racing thoughts- agitation and insomnia. August 28 2018 to Present Cannabis indica micro dose PM bedtime only. Presently Seroquel 37.5 mg bedtime /Zoloft 47mg morning May 2018-Present Multivitamin/ Bcomplex/Vit C 1000MG/B12 1000MCG/Fish oils 2grams/ Jan 2019-Trace mineral liquid low dose Update dec 2019 -29mg of zoloft tapering/Seroquel 37.5 holding/1 or 2 ativan 1mg a month as needed if that. Black seed oil-caprylic acid-/b complex/b12/multi/D/E/melatonin Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 I am now 7 month off and doing much better. More windows, less anxiety. better sleep. Start working again for few ours 3 times a week. Month 6 was a bad one! I am not taking supplements, only D3. Even vit C was to much and gave me Cortisol spikes. and no Cola, or coffee or choclate! not even caffeine free.. I wish everybody well! 1 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
almuPA Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hello @DutchMaddy, I am glad to read that you are seeing positive changes:) March 2019: 10mg Citalopram April 2019: 20mg Citalopram October/November 2019(sorry, I don't remember the exact date): 10mg of Citalopram without tapering, as suggested by my pharmacist. March 2020: Started "tapering", taking the 10mg of Citalopram every other day, again, following the recommendations of my pharmacist. April 2020: Stopped taking Citalopram. I haven't reinstall since then. I've tried taking Magnesium a couple of times, but I found out it makes me nervous. I only take Paracetemol when the headache becomes unbearable (2gr every couple of weeks or so). Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 yes I am Too thank you! 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 @almuPAthxs! wish you well too! 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted April 5, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 5, 2021 Hi @DutchMaddy I hope your path through w/d is going ok. Best wishes to you, Arbor Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 Hi @arbor Thanks for you’re post. I had a bad wave last 2 weeks. ( maybe because of the Pfizer vaccination) don’t know. But doing a little better now. I follow you on SA and you have a few very nice peers here on SA. I hope you are feeling a bit better!! Hang in there!🌹 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 @arbor I also found 2 Dutch people from this side who became real friends. We help eachother a lot. this site is wonderful. Thanks to @Altostrata 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 5, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 5, 2021 You're welcome! How do you feel now? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 I have more windows but also some bad days. But keeping faith☺️ 1 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted April 7, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 7, 2021 Thank you fr the update @DutchMaddy. I'm so glad you're having some windows!!!🕊️ Arbor Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment
jozeff Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Hi dutchmaddy, Greetings from the Nijmegen area! It seems to me that you are doing Better And Better Day by Day. You have had quite a rough periode the last couple of years. It must have been pretty hard for you not exactly knowing what your body was doing all the time. I can relate to this. I tapered 0.1 mg citalopram each day for 85 days in a row (from 25 to 16.5) and crashed. Never really recovered and haven't been the same since. 3 years struggle now. I checked out the website for tapering strips. Looks interesting and could be quite helpful for a lot of people. I make tapering solutions myself and for my wife. Downside is that you keep messing around with theories and calculations every week to find the perfect scheme...... Are you 8 months off of all medications now? You will increasingly get better but don't be surprised if you get a bad week here and there. I've had perfect days followed by horrendous ones. I read that you quit caffeine. I tried this too and it helped tremendously with my anxiety but my depression got worse, even after carefully tapering caffeine. At the moment I drink about 200 ml coffee per day and don't have anxiety issues. I did take 800-1000 ml every day so i reduced quite a bit. I think that you will only get better and better when completely off drugs. I have seen people around me taking one med after the other for decades and they never really cure their mental problems. You have taken the right decision! Great to hear you are back to work.! Cheers Happy healing Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 Jozeff, klopt het dat ik jou geen mail kan sturen? ik heb grote mail klaar maar er staat dat jij niets kan ontvangen? groetjes Maddy 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 @jozeffhi! Thanks for you’re post i wrote you an email but I understand that you cannot receive this? 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
jozeff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Hi dutchmaddy, Dat zou kunnen. Ik heb geen idee! Ik zal eens in mijn settings kijken of anders stuur ik je een pm ok? Ga t even proberen... Groeten! Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
jozeff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Hi dutchmaddy, My inbox is full. I will remove some stuff and pm you my emailadres ok? Cheers Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
jozeff Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Ok, inbox is weer een stukje leger! Ga je gang. Grtz Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
jozeff Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Hi @DutchMaddy , How are you doing? Cheers Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
DutchMaddy Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Hi Jozeff, thank you for asking! Steady on my way to healing. With waves and windows. Now 27 months off and much better. But not there yet. And you? 1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps 2008-2018 10 years Prozac 30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in. 2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month. 2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019 2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work. march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper AD free since 29 July 2020 Link to comment
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