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Hi guys! 

I want to indruce my self. Spend a few month on Pssd servers and forums. Short story. I had somatization and the sick docs gave me prozac 20 mg. I quit after 2 weeks because I was scary. In the next 6 month I earned symptoms I never had. Also sexual sides and anxiety spikes. I still thought it's my sickness but also was not sure about Pssd. When I told it my pdoc she said this doesn't exist and I have crazy ideas about my body. She gave me abilify 2.5 mg. This stuff finally killed the rest of me. I was very suicidal so I tried to save my life with Moclobemid and lithium. I am still alive and out of meds for 7 month. Saw a few improvements. But my life is destroyed. Lost my job and relationship. 

Greetings dog

 

Sorry IAm not a native speaker 

 

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09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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Welcome to SA, Driksdog.  Your English is fine.

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.

 

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Of course PSSD exists and it is one of many withdrawal symptoms that can result from psychiatric drugs.  I'm aware that many PSSD forum are not optimistic about PSSD, but we have found here that this symptom, like other withdrawal symptoms, improves and fades in time. Our experience here is that we all recover, though it will take some time.  I suggest you Google SurvivingAntidepressants.org PSSD success stories

So that you have a better idea about what you're experiencing, here is some information about withdrawal and the healing process.

 

 

 

When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  

 

These explain the healing process really well.

 

 

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hey Gridley! 

Thanx for ur help. This time my sexual side effects are not the biggest problem. I am function in a way. Most terrible thinks are apathy and anhedonia. I saw a few Windows and I was optimistic to come out at the end. But the last weeks I felt bad again. I started to think about the polydruging, fast tapers and the cold turkey. Still got headpressure and light DP. I don't know. What u think about nac and sarcosin? 

Greetings dog

09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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@Driksdog

 

I'm glad the PSSD is not too terrible.  Like you, apathy and anhedonia are two of my biggest symptoms.  It's a very good sign that you've felt some windows.  You are healing.  It'll be ups and down, windows and waves, but these symptoms, like other withdrawal symptoms, will fade in time.

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Regarding the nac and sarcosine, here's a link on amino acids so you can see other members' general experiences with these supplements.  If you do try them, try them at a very low dose (much less than recommended) and one at a time.

 

Amino acids - Symptoms and self-care - Surviving ...

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@Driksdog Welcome! I'm glad to see that you have seen some improvements! :)

 

2005-2017 started on AD for sleep then on and off Paxil, Zoloft, Lexapro, and others that I can't remember

2017 Lexapro 10 mg

2018 Jan-Tried getting off lexapro. (within about a 4-6 week period) 

2018 March- Got back on Lexapro 10mg

2018 June Switched to Wellbutrin. (don't remember dosage)

2018 August Switched to Sertraline. 25 mg, 50, 75, then back down to 50 

2019 December...back on Sertraline 25 mg 

2020 January-switched back to Escitalopram 5 mg

2020 March-December Escitalopram 10 mg

2021 Jan-started BMS taper w/2 wk hold (using liquid form)

2021 March 7.97mg

Occasionally .25mg Melatonin (as needed)

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Hi krisseyb! 

Yes thanx but look my nervsystem feels like dead. I mean I am function in a way but I don't have anxiety or panic. I just feel like I am dead. Like total out of emotions. So my soul is gone. I mean ofc there are a kind of emotional working like I know I hate something and I can Freak out but at least I don't feel it. I am not conacted to it. That's very scary. And there are ppl out at the web saying this is real Pssd not wd. Idk what to think about it. 

Greetings 

09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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Hi Driksdog and welcome from me too

 

This is a good sign - from your drug signature:

 

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Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements

 

 

The following link is to the search I did in the Success Stories forum for PSSD:

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?q=pssd&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=28

 

7 minutes ago, Driksdog said:

I just feel like I am dead. Like total out of emotions. So my soul is gone. I mean ofc there are a kind of emotional working like I know I hate something and I can Freak out but at least I don't feel it. I am not conacted to it.

 

This is  very common. 

 

apathy-anhedonia-emotional-numbness-emotional-anesthesia

 

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Current from 17 Apr 2021:  Pristiq 0.2665mg  now holding each dose for 3 weeks

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015 

My tapering program   My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)  My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Hi! 

Thank u very much cat. 

Dog

09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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Driksdog

Hi guys! 

I felt better in nov last year. I really thought it's gonna end. Then I was stupid and smoked cigs for 3 weeks/ 3 to 5 a day. At the start of Dec I crashed hard and the last 3 month were terrible. It felt harder then any other wd I had before. I had something like Flu feeling and heavy headaches. I thought my brain is gonna die. I am clean for 3 month know and learned my lesson. I could that be? 3 weeks smoking 3 cigs a day and it was heavier than any other wd before Hits me. 

Greetings 

09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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  • 1 month later...
Driksdog

Hi! 

I read that smoking cigs is like taking maoi and it highers dopamin in the brain. I guess this was one of the reasons I crashed. I think my main problem is alteration in dopa receptors because my problems began after abilify. So to increase dopa is an bad idea if ur receptors are still not working normal. What do u think? 

Greetings drik

09/2018 Quetapin100 mg 8 weeks 

10/2018 Prozac 20 mg 2 weeks 

At this time I earned some symptoms but was not aware of it. I thought it's still depression. Because of massive anxiety spikes I went back to see a pdoc.

05/2019 - 10/2019 abilify 2.5 mg

After a fast taper I crashed hard and realized my problems are from the meds. But Was very suicidal. 

12/2019-03/2020 Moclobemid (maoi) 600mg

01/2020 - 04/2020 Lithium 1125 mg

03/2020 8 ketamin injections

Now finally it was clear that other drugs can switch my state 

Since 05/2020 I am drug free and saw some improvements. 

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