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Hello survivors,

 

It all started many years ago. Admittedly, I do not remember when. Perhaps 15 years ago. Yes, probably 15... I was younger back in those days and I had a problem: a nagging pain in the middle of my back, a pain which my doctor could not figure out. It appeared out of nowhere and was worse at night, when trying to lie down and sleep. At the time, my GP thought it was a great idea to put me on 10mg amitriptyline: it would help with the neuropathic pain and put me to sleep at the same time. I remember naively asking if there was a risk of addiction and was told: "It's not addictive. It's safe to take for many years. At this low dose, it doesn't work as an antidepressant." Well, my GP was right on that last point and, sadly, I believed him on the first point. I do not know how long I stayed on 10mg but I was not sleeping well and the pain was still there. Then about 7 years ago, my dose was increased to 25mg. Initially I felt better: I slept more soundly and I could forget the pain at night...

 

However, things gradually got worse, almost by stealth: I would have very bad nights every now and then, when, for absolutely no reason, I could not fall asleep. I would feel mildly depressed day in, day out, have little energy and interest in anything. I would avoid any social activities. Basically, my soul was being numbed by amitriptyline. I developed GI problems and severe abdominal cramps to the point where I could not even lie down on my bed without a pillow under my knee. The annoying thing is that for the best part of the past 7 years, I never connected those daily issues with amitriptyline. I just thought that's how life was... I thought I was unlucky...

 

Then, for a brief period last year (4 weeks), my GP increased my amitriptyline to 50mg and also put me on a couple of benzodiazepines, which were abruptly discontinued by the GP. I then developed very bad tinnitus and decided to cold-turkey amitriptyline; I was fed up with all those drugs I was being asked to take and had realised they were the source of my problems: I went down from 50mg to 37.5mg, then 10mg and 5mg, back to 10mg and eventually 20mg, over 10 days or so. I could not stop it, it was too fast, too painful. I stabilised on 20mg over a few months and, since June 2020, I have been slowly tapering. As I write this post, I am down to 13.7mg! 🙂 Withdrawing is tough, but I'm hopeful for a better future (I have had days in the past months where I have felt better than I have ever felt over the past 15 years and I truly cherish those few days!).

 

I wish I could speed things up and rid my body of this poisonous drug but I can't go fast. At my present tapering pace, I will probably need another 12 months... That's if things don't get more difficult towards the end, in which case I might need 15 months(?)... Anyway, keen to learn from others on how they successfully weaned themselves off amitriptyline.

 

Wish me luck.

 

Thanks.

 

SG

 

 

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Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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Welcome to SA, SurreyGuy.

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.

 

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How fast are you tapering?  We recommend tapering by no more than 10% of your current dose every four weeks.  I'm afraid that it will take longer than 12-15 months to taper safely off 13.7mg, especially given the need to slow down as you get to the very low doses.   I know it's hard to wrap one's head around how long it takes to get off these drugs, but going too fast can actually take longer than a slow, safe taper if you have to hold or updose due to withdrawal symptoms.   It took me 4 years to taper off 20mg Lexapro.

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

The following link is specifically about tapering Amitriptyline, including how to get the nonstandard doses needed for a 10% taper.

 

Tips for tapering off amitriptyline

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hello @Gridley,

 

Thank you so much for your post. Yes, I realise that the 12 to 15 month timeline is unrealistic. My last taper, 2 weeks ago, was too fast and I am still suffering (though yesterday was better).

 

I reckon that 10% decrease every 4 weeks is even too fast for me. My nervous system is just too sensitive and I need to remain functional for work. Most of my tapers so far have been around 2% to 3% (but the duration between 2 consecutive tapers has varied widely)...

 

I had a consultation with my GP last week and found out that my first encounter with amitriptyline dates back to 2004 so I have been on this poison for 16 years ☹️,  initially at 10mg. I believe my dosage was increased to 25mg around 2013 or 2012 (I cannot remember when exactly and my GP can't even find that information in his records) before a failed CT in December 2019 and prompt reinstatement at 20mg. I started tapering slowly in late May 2020 as I felt better. Anyway, my goal is to come down to 12.5mg. I am probably 2 to 3 months away (depending on how long I hold at 13.7mg). Once at 12.5mg, I will work my way to 10mg, which is the smallest amitriptyline pill one can get.

 

Your tapering off Lexapro is inspiring. 👍

 

I will put together signature like yours.

 

SG 

 

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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Hello again @Gridley,

 

By the way, am I now allowed to post messages on other threads and connect with other users?

 

 

 

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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2 hours ago, SurreyGuy said:

Anyway, my goal is to come down to 12.5mg. I am probably 2 to 3 months away (depending on how long I hold at 13.7mg).

Just a reminder of what I think you already know: go by what your body says rather than a schedule.

 

1 hour ago, SurreyGuy said:

 

By the way, am I now allowed to post messages on other threads and connect with other users?

 

Yes, for comments or suggestions or shared experiences or encouragement, it's fine to post on others' threads and connect with fellow members.  However, if it's about your own situation it best to post on your own thread so all the information about you is in one place.

 

 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of April 10: 13mgai.  Taper is 31% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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manymoretodays

Hi SurreyGuy,

  

On 2/17/2021 at 8:33 AM, SurreyGuy said:

Amitriptyline liquid tapering using milk

 

Hello all

I know the latest tip from SurvivingAntidepressants is to use alcohol for liquid tapering of amitriptyline. However, having gone through benzodiazepine cold turkey 1 year ago, I'm loathed to drink any alcohol, even in small quantity so I have been investigating alternatives. I am curious to find out if any of you used milk for liquid tapering amitriptyline. I have heard that it is freely soluble in lipid/fat, hence my idea of using milk. Has it worked for you?

SG

 

I went ahead and added this stand alone topic in tapering and the response to the Tips for tapering amitryptyline topic.

 

And I do want to encourage you to update right here too.  On your topic.

Are you beginning to taper again, using a new form of home made liquid?  Or just planning ahead right now?

 

And no, I have not tapered amitriptyline in a milk solution, but you may get more input now, either here or in the topic.

 

How are you doing now?

 

And best, L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. 

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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SurreyGuy

@manymoretodays, a quick update (for the community)...

 

I am presently tapering amitriptyline at a slow pace of 0.5mg every 3 weeks or so, down to 12.5mg. My waves are a lot more predictable and bearable than 6 months ago. They tend to be shorter too. Most of the withdrawal symptoms are gone after one week from tapering and the activating effects of Nortriptyline (one of the active metabolites of Amitriptyline) are usually gone after a couple of weeks. The third week is to enjoy life before tapering again... :)

 

I really hope that the withdrawal symptoms do not worsen as I feel this is something that I can manage and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...?

 

SG

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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SurreyGuy

Quick update: down to 12mg and stabilising nicely. Most symptoms are greatly reduced 2 weeks after conservative taper. It's going to take a while to get rid of that poison (amitriptyline) but I'm reasonably optimistic I will make it. Well... I hope.

 

SG

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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SurreyGuy

Right, I tried tapering 0.5mg twice, within 7 days, hoping that the second taper would cancel out the nortriptyline effect from the first taper and it did not go that way, which means the symptoms I am experiencing really are amitriptyline withdrawal symptoms. I will stick to 0.5mg every 3 weeks I think.

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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SurreyGuy

Tapered to 11.5mg last Friday. Last night, I woke up at 03:30am and could not really go back to sleep after. Tinnitus is raging. Other symptoms (anxiety, depression, sensorial symptoms, etc.) are not so bad at the moment. I am in a phase of my tapering where each day/night is different in terms of symptoms. The instability / uncertainty can be quite challenging. ☹️

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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SurreyGuy

Already a week has elapsed since I tapered from 12mg to 11.5mg and I have been doing ok so far with the exception of 3 fairly short nights. I know the second week usually is the most difficult one in terms of psychological symptoms with things improving in the third week. I am keeping active (walking, etc.) and making the most of the weather. If everything is ok, I will go down to 11mg early May... Slow and steady, like the turtle...

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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SurreyGuy

Well... last night was tough. Big bout of insomnia. Woke up after 5h and could not go back to sleep again. Feeling crap now with all sort of symptoms, mostly GI and a bit of anxiety... I really hate what those drugs do... the physiological dependence. Urgh...

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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Hi SurreyGuy,

 I just read your thread, that’s fantastic you’re down to 11.5!! It sounds like you have a good attitude and perspective and that will help you tremendously. I myself just finished tapering this drug. For me, the more work I did on myself the easier it was to accept the w/d symptoms. My sleep is still disrupted but when I wake in the night I do not get up. I instead put the focus on relaxing and I focus on my breath. When my thoughts wander I continue to put the focus on my breath. I always fall back asleep, ALWAYS. Being in total acceptance of my symptoms helps me to rise above them so they don’t bother me. Be mindful of what your thoughts are telling you and try not to identify with the negative ones. Learn mindfulness as a skill to help stay in the present moment. These are some of the biggest ones that helped me.

Let me know how you’re doing, you will be done with this before you know it!!

Been on medication since 1999. Previous medications include Remeron, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Lamictal, Xanax, Ativan, Valium, Ability.

Amitriptyline: 50 mg 2015-5/20. Decreased 50mg to 25 mg first week in May, 25mg to 12mg second week in May, 25mg to 10mg third week in May, 10mg to 8 mg fourth week in May. Stayed here for a month and reinstated 2 mg in July. 1/21 -4/21 9-0 mg Amitriptyline 

Klonopin: .5 mg since 2001

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them.”  - Albert Einstein 

 

 

 

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SurreyGuy

Hi @Mia1, thanks for your post and encouragements. I still have a long way to go. My central nervous system is still sensitive from the simultaneous valium/zopiclone cold-turkey I suffered from 15 months ago so I cannot taper the amitriptyline as fast as I would like. Hopefully, in 12 or 18 months, I will be off this cr*p for good! Good luck with whatever drug it is you have left to tapper. 

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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Today, anxiety made a surprised (and dare I say, unwelcome) return towards the end of the afternoon. Maybe it's because I was reading some testimonials from an AD survivor... Anyway, I need to focus on my person, my symptoms, my life on a day-to-day basis. I should not try to project myself too far into the future. The plan is to taper again this Friday but I will see how I feel tomorrow and Thursday before another reduction...

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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Hi SurreyGuy

Thanks a lot for the sharing. Must say that lot of people, including me do beleive that Amitriptilyne is quite of dangerous drug, almost a poison. I suffered, ans still suffer from multiple withdrawal symptom ever since a quite Cold Turkey following my neurologist recommondation. I was only on 15mg. Perhaps the word "only" isn't appropriate when we talk about amitriptilyne. There is no such thing called small dose.

I would like to know if your Tinnitus heald or at least get improved? Cause Tinnitus is one of the most painful withdrawal symptom that i still struggle with almost a year now.

MANY THANKS for your answer!

 

Amitriptilyne 15mg from february 5th 2020 to April 25 2020, then cold turkey.

Reinstate Amitriptilyne 10mg from March 11 2020 to march 30, then taper off 2mg every week.

0.00mg by the end of june 2020.

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@Ilias, stopping any psychotropic medication cold turkey is very much like a game of Russian roulette... for some patients, it works, but for us, it doesn't. I'm not quite sure I fully understand the info in your signature but it seems your tapper after reinstating was very aggressive (2mg every week!). I'm presently tapering at a pace of 0.5mg every 3 weeks, which is less than 5% every 3 weeks, and even that is difficult... 

 

As for my tinnitus, it's 24/7. However, I have had a few days over the past 12 months (which I can count on the fingers of my hands) when it was noticeably fainter; I even had one day when I thought it was nearly gone. I am confident it will go in time, once my tapper is over. My problem is that the tapper will take years to complete. Years of suffering...

Diazepam: Prescribed for 1 month; free since 2019-12. 

Zopiclone: Prescribed for 6 weeks; free since 2020-01. 

 

Amitriptyline: Prescribed 10mg from 2004 to 2012(?); 25mg from 2012(?) to 2019-11; 50mg in 2019 October; attempted CT in December 2019, reinstated within 2 weeks at 20mg; 

Start slow taper in June 2020: 2020-06: 18mg; 2020-08: 16.6mg; 2020-10: 15.9mg; 2020-10: 15.45mg; 2020-10: 15mg; 2020-11:15.45mg; 2020-11: 15mg; 2020-11: 14.5mg; 2020-12: 13.7mg; 2021-02-12: 13mg; 2021-03-05: 12.5mg; 2021-03-11: 12mg; 2021-04-16: 11.5mg

 

Supplements: Vitamin C (1.25g); fish oil (1g); D3 (4000IU); magnesium glycinate (800mg); K2 MK7 (0.1mg); zinc (15mg); boron (3mg)

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@SurreyGuy it was the biggest mistake i have ever done. I trust an incompetent doctor who kept telling me take that dose and to taper that way. And yes after i reinstate i tapered too quickly cause i couldn't manage the symptoms i developed followingbthe reinstating like constipation/headaches/Tinnitus/urinary retention...i feel completly lost and i'm only 33 years old :(

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On 4/24/2021 at 11:01 AM, SurreyGuy said:

Already a week has elapsed since I tapered from 12mg to 11.5mg and I have been doing ok so far with the exception of 3 fairly short nights. I know the second week usually is the most difficult one in terms of psychological symptoms with things improving in the third week. I am keeping active (walking, etc.) and making the most of the weather. If everything is ok, I will go down to 11mg early May... Slow and steady, like the turtle...

 

Hello, @SurreyGuy You have been doing a great job of observing and managing your withdrawal symptoms.

 

However, I think your tapering method might be catching up with you, even though you're making very small reductions at each step. If your withdrawal symptoms are increasing, I would give your nervous system a rest by not tapering for a while, maybe some months. The tinnitus, which is concerning, may lighten or resolve.

 

Many people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see


https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/


https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

 

Please let us know how you're doing.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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