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31 minutes ago, Bluemoon3 said:

I really feel better.  I sleep 6-7 hours a night.  I can even fall back to sleep if I wake up too early.  I still have 2 problems: impossible to cry and sleep without Seresta.  What really worries me is that I never feel sleep come on until I take seresta.  How long does insomnia usually last?  Are there any studies on the subject? 

Hello Bluemoon, 

 

Unfortunately, nobody can predict how long a symptom will last.

There's just too much of unknown about our brain, about these molecules and about healing process.

But what we do know is that people tend to get better as time passes, and that carefull tapers seems to help our CNS to make his repair work :) 

 

I'm glad that you're seeing progress, enjoy those sweet hours of sleep ❤️

 

I can't tell if it's your case or if it is related to Seresta, but I just wanted to tell you that sleep can often be an issue during pregnancy. I personnaly never had a child, but it seems that a lot of mum around me have had issues with sleep during this special time.

I remember well how much a friend struggled during all her pregnancy with very little sleep whereas she never had insomnia before.

Maybe it will give you some reassurance :) 

 

You're doing great, Take care

 

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I slept from 11pm to 6.30am.  I walked more than 1hr yesterday. My mood is really better. 

Bluemoon3

Thanks @Erell

I can feel joy, I am motivated, I am making plans for the future but I do not understand why I can’t cry when I have a bad news. 
The main problem remains insomnia. I never feel I am falling asleep. Otherwise I am feeling better every day :) I am recovering my concentration. I dot feel dizzy anymore. 
 

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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Tonight, I took 30mg instead of 32,5mg. I will see if it makes a big difference. Last time I tapered off, I had weird feelings in my head for about 3 days. It was bearable.

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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I haven't felt a difference between 32.5mg and 30mg yet.  I have a feeling that my condition will be more stable because I was not cutting my tablets evenly enough into quarters.

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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14 hours ago, Bluemoon3 said:

Tonight, I took 30mg instead of 32,5mg. I will see if it makes a big difference. Last time I tapered off, I had weird feelings in my head for about 3 days. It was bearable.

 

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Please that on December 19, you were at 35 mg of Seresta. So that was not quite a month ago. And now you're at 30 mg. That is a 14.3% reduction. 

 

And just 6 weeks ago, you were at 40 mg, which is a 25% reduction from where you're currently at. 

 

I know you're dealing with other issues and are wanting to decrease this drug due to your pregnancy, but if you do have severe symptoms, especially with insomnia, over the coming days, you may want to do a small updose. 

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My sleep is better every day when I am at home. My main worries is that I don't feel sleep coming without Seresta. 
 

I ´ll wait a few days and see how I feel. My head is more sensitive. I have weird feelings but it’s bearable. 

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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when I decrease Seresta by 2.5mg, my head is more sensitive for 3 days and then I'm fine.  I didn't see any other problems.  My sleep is even better than before.  I even manage to take my nap sometimes!  for me, it’s a miracle that I can sleep without medication for a few minutes.  I also believe that pregnancy is starting to tire me a lot.  I am less active.  On the other hand, I do feel like I have more energy at night ... but Seresta eases that quickly. 

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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Sounds like you're stabilizing, Bluemoon. Very good to hear. 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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I've been exhausted for about 4 days until noon.  I have to stay in bed.  I wonder if it's pregnancy.  What is good, though, is that even though I fall asleep at midnight and wake up around 4 or 5am, I can at least fall back to sleep 2 hours before noon.  If I try to get up at 5 a.m. I have low blood pressure and faintness.  The gynecologist says it's normal to have low blood pressure when you're pregnant.  But I wonder if it's the withdrawal or the pregnancy that keeps me in bed till noon.  However, in the afternoon I have energy, I go out.

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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it was getting better but yesterday I got some bad news (death from covid) so I only slept 3 hours.  I don't know what to do to relax. I am very tense. I can’t even rest. 

- July 2020 : Olanzapine and Chlorpromazine (Largactil) 300mg

- August 2020 : abruptly stopped Olanzapine (no withdrawal symptoms)

- August 2020 : abrutly stopped Largactil :  4 sleepless nights -> took it again

- August 2020 - November 2020 (4 months) : decreased gradually Largactil

- 2 December 2020 : Stopped Largactil -> no sleep

- 13 Nov 2020 : Started Seresta (Oxazepam) to sleep : 15mg -> loss of concentration, could sleep 5/6hrs

- Beginning of Dec 2020 : 40mg of Seresta to sleep about 5/6 hrs

- Dec 19, 2020 : 35mg of Seresta at night

- Dec 26, 2020 : 32,5mg of Seresta at 9pm

- Jan 13, 2021 : 30mg of Seresta at 9.30pm


Main pbs : no concentration, internally agitated, little sleep

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