draggin49: Help! I’m really struggling

[draggin49]

Hello, 

I’m 39 years old.  I’m really struggling right now . I think I may be suffering from discontinuation syndrome ??? Not sure. 

my current meds my psychiatrist had me on were 

celexa 60mg 

amitriptilene 100mg 

guanfacine 1 mg 2x per day 

Ativan 0.5 mg twice a day 

 

My psych had me taper off of amitripteline over the span of about 3.5 months . 
I was doing ok through the taper didn’t notice anything dramatic as I moved the dose lower and lower every 3 weeks . 
 

I took my last small dosage of around 6mg November 11th. 
just a couple weeks ago I got hit with severe depression /anxiety , much worse than when I was on the amitriptyline prior to tapering off . My doctor has decided to put me back on amitripteline so I’m taking 12.5 mg of that now , I’m on my second day back of taking it . I feel so horrible , I’m really struggling to get through this . Is there anything that can be done or that I can do to help get me some relief ??? Will going back on help too? I was hoping it would 

would any of these things help lessen the discontinuation syndrome? Like walking , or specific diet , vitamins ? 
I just feel hopeless and really need some guidance , help, support . I’m sorry to ask but I feel lost and without support . 
I’ve been suffering from anxiety and major depressive disorder for over 20 years . 
I look forward to being part of this group and hope I can find some help and support that I desperately need . Thank you 

 

Edited January 9, 2021 by manymoretodays
name to title, moved to Intros, reduced all caps

[draggin49]

Hello, 

Im really struggling here and was hoping someone could give me some insight on how I could help ease some of what I’m going through . 
my meds are 60mg celexa 

1mg guanfacine 2x daily

0.5mg Ativan 2x daily 

 

and I was on 100mg daily of amitripteline 

 

my psychiatrist put made me a taper schedule to get off amitriptyline. I followed that it was over the course of maybe 3.5-4 months till I took my last dose. .

 

I am 2 months from my last dose and I have been hit with a huge wave of severe anxiety /depression , much worse than when I was on the med . 
 

my doctor has opted to reinstate the amitripteline. Yesterday was my 3rd day back on it . This is beyond rough, the physical symptoms aren’t super bad but mentally I’m just a wreck. .It’s so overwhelming. 
 

is there anything I can do to help ease this suffering ??? I purchased vitamin D ,b12 , and omega 3 yesterday but haven’t taken them yet . I spoke with the pharmacist at target and she said that I shouldn’t have an issue taking those with my meds. If my body is depleted in these areas would these vitamins help ? Or do I just need to let my body get more doses of amitriptyline back in my system ? 
This is truly so hard , I’m not someone who would complain or ask for help unless I REALLY am struggling . 
I’m praying someone here has some info or has been through what I’m going through and can give me some insight /hope . Thank you

 

 

Edited January 9, 2021 by manymoretodays
moved from S and SC, name added to title, reduced all caps in title

[Altostrata]

Welcome, @draggin49

 

How do you feel now having added 12.5mg amitriptyline back in?

 

What times of day do you take each of your drugs, with their dosages?

 

Please put ALL your drugs in the Drug Interactions Checker https://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.php
and copy and paste the results or a link to them in this topic.

 

It is not good medical practice to prescribe those 2 antidepressants at the same time. You may wish to find another doctor.

 

To help us out, follow these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.

 

 

 

 

[draggin49]

Altostrata ,

tonight is my first night down to 12.5mg of amitripteline. Sorry , I only have my phone at the moment , don’t have computer access but will try and get to computer to put in my current med info in my signature . 
I still feel pretty rough , but am hoping that the more days of amitripteline I get back into my system the more relief I will get . This is my 5th night of being back on it. I am in the process of trying to find a new psychiatrist . I appreciate your insight on my drug combo , I feel I’m on too many drugs at too high of doses. I was better off many years ago with nothing but celexa at a low dose . I’m actually scheduled to do a genesight test that is in relation to what drugs suit my particular makeup .My TMS treatment doctor offers the test . I did TMS treatment a different time I had discontinuation symptoms to help ease things a bit .
 

 I just need to get back to stabilized and then I will be changing psych’s and I’ve also had blood drawn to check for vitamin deficiencies, and am having an endocrinologist run an extensive panel of tests . It’s time to make some positive changes. 

[Altostrata]

Genesight test does not show how to treat "depression and anxiety", all it shows is what drugs might cause adverse reactions. You're on too many damn drugs at too high doses. It's not due to your genes, it's your doctor's incompetence.

 

Amitriptyline has a long half-life, which probably is why you didn't feel withdrawal until after you quit. It probably will take a week or so for the 12.5mg to take full effect. Please let us know how you're doing.

[draggin49]

Thank you for clarifying . And all this time my psychiatrist has acted like I’m a fool for questioning him about being on so many meds , at such high doses . 
 

he just told me there is no way this can be withdrawls because I’ve been off the med for 2 months . I’m changing to the psychiatrist who does my TMS treatments. He actually has compassion and cares . He voiced the EXACT sentiments as you . Too many drugs too high of doses . It’s time to take my life back. I’m gonna do the 12.5 amitripteline to get stabilized. 
then it’s time to figure out a plan on how I can taper off these drugs or at least get the dosages down to something small. Thank you for speaking up , and thank you for the support. I will keep you posted how I’m doing. 

 


 

[draggin49]

.. double post sorry 
 


 

[draggin49]

I’m assuming my taper was too fast ??
 

And in too large of increments .

Wouldn’t that be part of why I’m feeling how I do? 

he claims  it’s not possible for me to be having effects from withdrawals,after 6-7 weeks after the last dose of amitripteline. 
he is telling me it’s simply my depression and anxiety re-emerging. 
He never will take any accountability for when I spiral and get into a situation like this or when I feel terrible . 

it’s sad how many psychs act this way and have zero empathy after THEY are the ones who created this entire mess .🤬🤬🤬🤬

I hope I can recover from this , thank you for the support and insight , it truly means so much. 
 

[Altostrata]

Yes, your taper probably was too fast.

 

Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern?  Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. This can show if your symptoms are adverse effects from one of your drugs.

 

 

[draggin49]

I just got a call from the lab . I had ordered vitamin d and b12 tests . 
wow...... could this severe vitamin D deficiency be causing some of this ??the more I read it showed a high correlation between heavy vitamin d deficiencies and depression and anxiety a lot of the time . 

A friend of mine had the exact same low # 16 as me. The doctor has put her on 50,000 IU weekly to correct the severe low and get it back to where it should be . She said it has helped her tremendously . 
I spoke to the pharmacist and he verified that is how it would be done . And that it would be ok to do while on my current medications. 
I will take a list of pill time taking and notes on how I feel in morning , afternoon and evening . 
I have a series of other tests that my endocrinologist will have done , I hope this can shed light on other major deficiencies and things that had never had light shed on them . 

[Altostrata]

Suggest you gradually build up in vitamin D3 dose by starting with a tiny drop of the liquid form or chips from a tablet daily rather than taking 50,000IU at once. People who have been sensitized from withdrawal may have bad reactions to large doses of vitamin D3.

[draggin49]

Damn, good to know . What IU would be a good starting point do you think ? I think my mom has some here that is 5,000 IU. 
yeah, maybe once I stabilize more with the amitripteline back in my system then I could better handle the 50,000 IU dose per week to get my levels back up high enough. 

 

[draggin49]

Still am feeling bad, I was thinking about starting with 5,000 IU of vitamin d3 and omega 3 in the morning to try and see if it helps me . Instead of the large weekly does of vitamin d of 50,000 IU. 

Im hoping as I get more time back on the amitripteline that should help get me back to normal too . My TMS doctor told me he wants me to try and go for a walk every morning to get the positive effects from that. 

My endocrinologist tests hopefully will be done on Monday. 
see if that can shed any light on something . 

 

[Altostrata]

On 1/11/2021 at 7:39 PM, Altostrata said:

Suggest you gradually build up in vitamin D3 dose by starting with a tiny drop of the liquid form or chips from a tablet daily rather than taking 50,000IU at once. People who have been sensitized from withdrawal may have bad reactions to large doses of vitamin D3.

 

[draggin49]

Still am having a hard time , but I’ve only been back on the amitripteline for 10 days now so it may need more time for to get built back up in my system . I think that taper was too fast and my body is just still recovering from it .  I guess I’m just scared cuz during this it makes you feel like you are never going to get back to feeling ok. It makes you so fearful and emotional . 
 

I called my primary care physician, she told me to take a daily regimen of vitamin d to try and correct the levels , so instead of the 50,000 iu dose I’ve been taking 5000iu daily .

I will have to retest my levels in a few months . 
 

[draggin49]

Titled:  Guanfacine taper help needed

 

My new doctor wants to taper me off guanfacine in the near future .

 

after a recent failure with my old doctor , 

he tried to taper me off 100mg of amitriptyline over the course of 3.5-4 months. I restarted amitripteline and am coming up on 2 weeks of being back on it. 
 

I told my new doctor I didn’t feel that the suggested fda taper of Guanfacine was not long enough. FDA says you can taper off 1mg every 5 days . 
I’ve been on this a drug a few years . If I’m going to taper off I want to do it the slowest /safest way possible . I don’t think most doctors realize you need a longer /gradual taper than that what the general suggested taper says. 
 

I currently am on 60 mg celexa 

25mg amitripteline ( coming up on 2 weeks back on it)

ativan 0.5mg 2x a day 

guanfacine 1mg  2x a day 

maybe I shouldn’t even attempt a Guanfacine taper until I have more time of being back on the amitriptyline????

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by manymoretodays
merged to introduction, title added

[manymoretodays]

Hi draggin49, and welcome, @draggin49

I just merged your last post back here.  Best to keep all your information together, for now.

Since you are new here:  Please put your withdrawal history in your signature

This is different from the initial information you gave on registration, and you'll see it below all your posts, once done

Just go to that link and follow the instructions, and link.

 

Why are you on the guanfacine?

And yes, good idea to do some form of taper on it.  It's not one of the usual drugs that we see here, but I think yes, that definitely some of the same priniciples will apply to tapering.

 

We take aharm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs.

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

 

What is withdrawal syndrome

Brain Remodelling

 

Dr.Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list.

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

When we take medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made.  The CNS likes stability. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. And sleep is really important during withdrawal.

 

Why are you on the amytriptiline?

Celexa?

And Ativan?

How have they helped?

 

On 1/8/2021 at 9:53 AM, draggin49 said:

would any of these things help lessen the discontinuation syndrome? Like walking , or specific diet , vitamins ? 
I just feel hopeless and really need some guidance , help, support . I’m sorry to ask but I feel lost and without support . 
I’ve been suffering from anxiety and major depressive disorder for over 20 years . 
I look forward to being part of this group and hope I can find some help and support that I desperately need . Thank you 

 

Yes, of course.  Walking, a good diet, and of course learning a bit more about your drug treatments.  Meditation, mindfulness, all kinds of things can help.

 

Please use the interaction checker at Drugs.com and plug your medications/drugs in there.  Then link us to the results, or copy and paste right here.

 

We only recommend 2 supplements:

BASIC SUPPLEMENT TOOLKIT

King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil)

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

 

Often when one has been on and off drugs like these for a number of years, our bodies and nervous systems become sensitized.  So in general, just start one new thing at a time, and single ingredient is the best.  Start low, and observe.  That way you will have a better idea of what does what.

 

Any improvements the last 2 weeks, since you reinstated the amitryptiline?

 

And best, welcome,

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

manymoretodays(mmt)

Edited January 20, 2021 by manymoretodays

[draggin49]

11 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi draggin49, and welcome, @draggin49

I just merged your last post back here.  Best to keep all your information together, for now.

Since you are new here:  Please put your withdrawal history in your signature

This is different from the initial information you gave on registration, and you'll see it below all your posts, once done

Just go to that link and follow the instructions, and link.

 

****
I can’t find an area that says edit signature . Do I have to do this from a computer to be possible ? I currently am on my iPhone . So maybe that is the issue ?

11 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

 

Why are you on the guanfacine?

I think it was just some attempt by my psych to help my anxiety or depression to be honest. 

11 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

And yes, good idea to do some form of taper on it.  It's not one of the usual drugs that we see here, but I think yes, that definitely some of the same priniciples will apply to tapering.

 

We take aharm reduction approach to going off psychiatric drugs.

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

 

What is withdrawal syndrome

Brain Remodelling

 

Dr.Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list.

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

When we take medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made.  The CNS likes stability. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. And sleep is really important during withdrawal.

 

Why are you on the amytriptiline?

Celexa?

And Ativan?

How have they helped?

****
These were all given to me for my anxiety /depression. I wouldn’t say that they’ve helped greatly . 

 

Yes, of course.  Walking, a good diet, and of course learning a bit more about your drug treatments.  Meditation, mindfulness, all kinds of things can help.

 

Please use the interaction checker at Drugs.com and plug your medications/drugs in there.  Then link us to the results, or copy and paste right here.

 

We only recommend 2 supplements:

BASIC SUPPLEMENT TOOLKIT

King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil)

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

 

Often when one has been on and off drugs like these for a number of years, our bodies and nervous systems become sensitized.  So in general, just start one new thing at a time, and single ingredient is the best.  Start low, and observe.  That way you will have a better idea of what does what.

 

Any improvements the last 2 weeks, since you reinstated the amitryptiline?

there has been a tiny bit of improvement since reinstating the amitriptyline. Don’t get me wrong I’m still a complete mess but I’m hoping as my body gets readjusted I will continue to see improvement. 
I have been searching for a doctor in Southern California or some place that could help me through this but I haven’t had any luck. I feel like there is no legitimate places to help me get through this . People need a place /people to help them through adjusting meds /changing meds or tapering off them etc 

 

 

It’s completely unfair that these doctors give us all these meds and then when things go bad they don’t want to be bothered or help when you are completely falling apart . I cried my eyes out yesterday after my appointment because my new doctor gave me a hard time because he wanted to reduce my guanfacine in half for 5 days then take me completely off it . I told him I am already a complete mess and can hardly function due to how my previous doctor took me off my amitripteline. I told him I was scared that I’m gonna make myself even worse than I am now . These doctors are so clueless about the severity of what patients go through. 
 

It’s taking everything I have to just make it through the day /night right now. 

My life is destroyed . What I’m going through is just way too overwhelming.  
This is not living , it is suffering . 
 

And best, welcome,

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

manymoretodays(mmt)

 

[Altostrata]

Reminder:

On 1/11/2021 at 7:39 PM, Altostrata said:

Suggest you gradually build up in vitamin D3 dose by starting with a tiny drop of the liquid form or chips from a tablet daily rather than taking 50,000IU at once. People who have been sensitized from withdrawal may have bad reactions to large doses of vitamin D3.

 

How have your symptoms changed since you added in 25mg amitriptyline?

[draggin49]

3 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Reminder:

 

How have your symptoms changed since you added in 25mg amitriptyline?

 I have seen a little bit of improvement since adding back the 25mg of amitriptyline. I still am having a really hard time but it seems like it took a tiny bit of the edge off .So hopefully this is a step in the right direction and as I get more and more weeks of being back on the amitriptyline I will see more improvement . Because I for sure could use some relief . 
Doing my best to be strong , even though it’s tremendously hard . 

[Altostrata]

It takes a couple of weeks for a change in amitriptyline dosage to take full effect, give it time. Please let us know how you're doing.

[draggin49]

1 minute ago, Altostrata said:

It takes a couple of weeks for a change in amitriptyline dosage to take full effect, give it time. Please let us know how you're doing.

Thanks for the heads up on that . I will keep you guys posted on how it’s going . I’m doing my best to take it easy , and allow myself to recover . I just have to keep reminding myself what you told me , that i just need to continue forward and let the amitriptyline get back in my system . I appreciate your guys support greatly , it’s nice to know there’s people who truly want to help. 

[draggin49]

Sorry I’ve been away . I stayed on the 25mg dose of amitriptyline I got back on.the last failed fast taper was so traumatizing I’ve been scared to try again . Im so disappointed in myself for EVER allowing myself to trust my psychiatrist who put me on all these meds. Im so much worse than when I was only on 10mg of celexa . I should’ve never let him add new meds or raise my dose. 
lately my anxiety has suddenly spiked and I don’t know why . But ever since the dr put me on all the meds above the 10mg of celexa . I have gotten to a point where all I feel is the negative emotions sadness , fear , disparity , feeling alone . At least when I was on only 10 mg of celexa I could still feel some positive emotions occasionally and had my own company/was working  , enjoyed activities I liked doing , enjoyed hanging out with friends . I feel like I must attempt a slow taper to get me off these meds that have made me so much worse . 
the way the meds have made me feel is just pure suffering 24/7.It is NOT living .  I am scared to try and taper amitriptyline again but I think the reason that went so catastrophically bad was due to my psych tapering me off 100 mg of Amitriptyline in 3.5 months with NO hold periods at all . I feel like I have to try and do a slow taper off these because the way my life currently is , is WAY too unbearable. I also think I got the most worse when I had been on amitriptyline full time . I’m debating on if I should do a 2.5 mg a week for 4 weeks then 2 weeks of hold , or a 1 mg per week for 4 weeks then 2 weeks of hold . 

[draggin49]

3 days ago I got my worst panic attack in forever , and it wasn’t just a panic attack then going back to normal. The anxiety has continued for the last 3 days . I haven’t changed meds and I’m not currently tapering so I’m really lost with what’s going on and what triggered this .  This is debilitating type anxiety . It’s beyond overwhelming .Has me afraid to be alone even for short periods of time .  I’ve been crying my eyes out the last 3 days because it’s more than I can handle and I’m scared that it won’t subside . I don’t know what people do when they get to these levels of debilitating anxiety to where they can’t even function because it just goes non stop. 
I’ve been dealing with this for over 25 years . The only reason I’ve made it this long is because of my mother who’s always been there for me . I’ve never felt so hopeless. I will try and check in on here . 

[draggin49]

This is the worst I’ve ever felt . I tried to make myself go for a walk to see if it might help but I just ended up crying my eyes out during my walk. I’ve never cried this much in my entire life . This huge wave of sadnesss /fear /anxiety /depression is so strong . It’s unbearable . Sorry to vent but this is so bad 

[getofflex]

@draggin49 must see a drug signature before we can help you.  

 

Can you please give us specific information in your signature about your drug history for all drugs and supplements you are on and have been on, especially for the past 18-24 months?  It would be especially helpful to have the details of your drugs in a concise vertical list (no symptoms), only specific dates, include the day (as best you can say for example early March if you don't recall the day), drug names, and dosages of each medication decrease or increase.

 

Please read the link below for instructions.  This will allow us to give you the best guidance.  

 

How to List Your Drug History in Your Signature

 

If you only have a smart phone, just type it in here, and I can move it to your signature.  

 

I'm very sorry you are going through this, and want to help you, but I need more information about your drug history.  You can get out of this drug situation you are in.  Life can get better for you.  From what information I've seen, it sounds as though you may be having adverse effects from your drugs.  Once we see your drug signature, we will give you specific advice, and walk you through getting off these drugs.  Hang in there. 

Edited January 15, 2023 by getofflex

[draggin49]

I’m having full melt downs,  the anxiety is so bad . And then I get hit with the most intense sadness and am crying harder than I ever have . I called my psychiatrist and he said to take additional ativan to try and help. He was saying that some people with severe anxiety or depression can be affected if they get influenza. My brothers friend had it fairly recently so I think my brother may have got it and I am around him often (live together ) I saw my pharmacy was doing flu testing , so I was gonna try and do that tomorrow . I had Covid around a year ago , but really didn’t get any symptoms at all even though I tested positive on a test. My mom also tested positive with no symptoms . 
would trying to go walk or ride my stationary bike help lessen what I’m dealing with? Is there anything that might help lessen what I’m going through ? This is the hardest /worst thing I’ve ever endured  by a mile . 

[draggin49]

I only managed to get 2 hours of sleep before waking up to a huge amount of anxiety . I don’t know what to do. I’ve never been this bad or on this position before . 

[getofflex]

Hang in there.  We are going to help you get off of these drugs.  I wouldn't make any drug changes until suggested by the staff on this site.  

 

So from your signature, it looks like you have not done any changes to your drugs (tapering, stopping or starting any drugs) in over a year.  Is this correct? 

 

If so, you may be having an adverse reaction to one or more of your drugs.  Please go to  https://www.drugs.com and select the drug interaction checker, and see if there are bad interactions between any of your drugs.  Let us know the results, please. 

 

To see if there is an adverse reaction going on, please do a daily drug and symptoms journal.  Keep track of taking your drug, symptoms, eating, sleeping, etc.  Write the time on the left, and describe the event on the right.  Pay attention especially to how you feel before, and then after, you take your drug. Please do this for 24 hours, and post an entry in here for each 24 hour period.  Here is an example: 

 

6 AM woke with anxiety

8 am took 2.5 mg lexapro

10 am stomach is upset

10:30 am ate breakfast

11:35 am got a headache, lasted one hour

12:35 ate lunch

4 pm feel a bit better

5 pm took 2.5 mg lexapro

6 pm ate dinner

9:20 pm headache 

10:00 pm took 50 mg Seroquel

10:30 pm feeling dizzy

10:30 pm fell asleep 

2:30 am woke, took 3 mg Ambien

2:45 am fell asleep

4:30 am woke, but got back to sleep 

 

Are you drinking alcohol, or using other mind altering stuff like marijuana, THC, CBD, kratom, etc?  What supplements are you on, if any?  

Edited January 17, 2023 by getofflex

[draggin49]

I just had 2 teeth removed and they gave me antibiotics earlier today  . I’m wondering if a possible tooth infection could have been making things out of wack ? You are correct , no tapering since over a year . Same series of drugs . I don’t smoke , drink or do any drugs . 
I will try doing a daily log with time and how I feel. I will also look up the interaction list . It’s strange though because I’ve been on this same combo of drugs at same dosage for 2 years and my depression was still there but my anxiety wasn’t that high, wasn’t having panic attacks , not having anxiety about doing normal daily stuff . Things were manageable . I’m not feeling awful physically, it’s more the mental feelings that are so hard to deal with . I was thinking about getting a blood test and some other things done to make sure infection isn’t anywhere else besides mouth 

[getofflex]

12 hours ago, draggin49 said:

It’s strange though because I’ve been on this same combo of drugs at same dosage for 2 years and my depression was still there but my anxiety wasn’t that high, wasn’t having panic attacks , not having anxiety about doing normal daily stuff

This is not uncommon, for adverse reactions to develop after some time.  And, there is a major drug interaction between Celexa and amitriptyline.  Not only that, you are on a very high dose of Celexa.  If it were me, I would start tapering Celexa.  

 

Here is the link to the drug interactions report:  https://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=168-0,679-335,1219-0,1488-0

 

I found this on https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/what-happens-when-your-serotonin-levels-get-too-high-1115184 about serotonin syndrome:  

 

Serotonin syndrome occurs when someone has an excess of the neurotransmitter serotonin in their nervous system. The condition’s symptoms generally fall into three categories:

• Altered mental status (irritability, agitation, restlessness, and anxiety)
• Neuromuscular hyperactivity (tremors, shivering, muscle rigidity, and muscle spasms)
• Autonomic hyperactivity (rapid heartbeat, high blood pressure, sweating, and fever)

This link explains that we usually want to taper activating drugs first, when we are on several drugs.  The exception is when someone is having an adverse reaction to a drug.  

 

Which Psych Drug to Taper First

 

What antibiotics did you take?   

 

[draggin49]

My dentist called in a prescription or amoxicillin 500mg  ( 4x a day ) so a weeks worth. 

 I’m also taking the lorazepam 4x a day , would it be better to stagger the amoxicillin to different times of day instead of same time or close to when I take the lorazepam . It’s been a long time since I have been to dentist and taken amoxicillin. So didn’t know if more hours apart between the lorazepam and amoxicillin would be better or close together. 
should I take food before amoxicillin? Sorry for the questions I just am new to this stuff

[Kostas]

I think, 

It is in the instructions in the box of the antibiotic ,to be consumed after meals .

 

 if you are taking two different drugs ,not related to each other, in my opinion should be taken further apart in time..

[getofflex]

I don’t think you need to worry about taking amoxicillin close to the lorazepam.  I’m not familiar with antibiotics so I would call your pharmacist and ask them about this and about food.  

[manymoretodays]

On 1/18/2023 at 10:45 AM, draggin49 said:

My dentist called in a prescription or amoxicillin 500mg  ( 4x a day ) so a weeks worth. 

 I’m also taking the lorazepam 4x a day , would it be better to stagger the amoxicillin to different times of day instead of same time or close to when I take the lorazepam . It’s been a long time since I have been to dentist and taken amoxicillin. So didn’t know if more hours apart between the lorazepam and amoxicillin would be better or close together. 
should I take food before amoxicillin? Sorry for the questions I just am new to this stuff

 

How are you doing today? 

When was the tooth extraction?  And this was due to decay or infection?

That could certainly throw anyone off a little bit anyway.

 

Are you planning to continue with the lorazepam increase?  I don't think that is a great idea.  Are you back to your usual schedule and dose with the lorazepam?

 

Here's our topic on antibiotics:

-cipro-levaquin-azithromycin-z-pack-and-other-antibiotics/

important information and members experiences ^

And yes, some have been thrown by Amoxicillin.  I did fine with Amoxicillin around a dental procedure, and once a Z-pack when in acute WD.......but you know......we are all different.  I would counsel that if you need the antibiotic that you should take it.  Certainly not any floxins though, if one can help it.....and usually one can request alternatives.

So......I honestly think you may have just hit a bump, wave, wall temporarily with the whole procedure and antibiotic.  Hopefully just temporary.

 

And I hope you are leveling off and feeling better now.  Let us know please.

 

And a copy of part of your signature:

Most recent psych raised me from 10 mg to 20 mg to 40mg then to 60 mg over course of maybe 2-3 years 

 

currently taking 

Celexa 60 mg at least 2 years 

amitriptyline 25 mg over a year ( at one point as high as 100 mg . Doctor tapered me off but it was too fast so I ended up back on at 25 because the withdrawl symptoms were debilitating.

guanfancine 1 mg 2x a day ( 3 years ) 

Lorazepam 0.5 mg 2x a day ( 2years ) 

 

Could you clarify some dates ^ ? I'm not sure what currently means or when you were tapered off the amitriptyline.

 Add some dates(month, year) to help us out, just go to:

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hit Save when done, so it will edit.

 

Thanks draggin49.  Hope it's lifted a bit for you today.

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

[draggin49]

28 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

 

How are you doing today? 

When was the tooth extraction?  And this was due to decay or infection?

That could certainly throw anyone off a little bit anyway.

so this crazy spiral into debilitating anxiety started over a week prior to ever taking any amoxicillin. So i don’t see it being the trigger . 

28 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

 

Are you planning to continue with the lorazepam increase?  I don't think that is a great idea.  Are you back to your usual schedule and dose with the lorazepam?

Before  the lorazepam increase I was having probably 7 panic attacks a day and was suffering from something FAR too severe to endure . Trust me , I didn’t want to increase my lorazepam but it was either that or me probably taking my life . I’m talking THAT level of anxiety /emotional meltdown /depression etc . I endured 3-4 days before the 2 added lorazepam happened . I can’t go every waking moment on at that level of severity . It is NOT doable . 

Here's our topic on antibiotics:

-cipro-levaquin-azithromycin-z-pack-and-other-antibiotics/

important information and members experiences ^

And yes, some have been thrown by Amoxicillin.  I did fine with Amoxicillin around a dental procedure, and once a Z-pack when in acute WD.......but you know......we are all different.  I would counsel that if you need the antibiotic that you should take it.  Certainly not any floxins though, if one can help it.....and usually one can request alternatives.

So......I honestly think you may have just hit a bump, wave, wall temporarily with the whole procedure and antibiotic.  Hopefully just temporary.

 

And I hope you are leveling off and feeling better now.  Let us know please.

 

And a copy of part of your signature:

Most recent psych raised me from 10 mg to 20 mg to 40mg then to 60 mg over course of maybe 2-3 years 

 

currently taking 

Celexa 60 mg at least 2 years 

amitriptyline 25 mg over a year ( at one point as high as 100 mg . Doctor tapered me off but it was too fast so I ended up back on at 25 because the withdrawl symptoms were debilitating.

guanfancine 1 mg 2x a day ( 3 years ) 

Lorazepam 0.5 mg 2x a day ( 2years ) 

 

Could you clarify some dates ^ ? I'm not sure what currently means or when you were tapered off the amitriptyline.

 Add some dates(month, year) to help us out, just go to: I apologize that I don’t have more accuracy on things , I will try and dig through old stuff , but I haven’t been able to keep the best records. I will update what I can

AccountSettings/Signature edits/updates

hit Save when done, so it will edit.

 

Thanks draggin49.  Hope it's lifted a bit for you today.

L, P, H, and G,

mmt