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Dear @Outsider.  You've gone through so many challenges, and now you're facing this new w/d.  I sure hope you give yourself credit for your strengths.  Your spirit means a lot to me as I face my own tribulations with these drugs.  Please know that I am thinking of you and am prepared to celebrate with all my heart when you begin to feel better.  

Arbor💜

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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On 11/6/2021 at 3:25 PM, DataGuy said:

Glad you were better yesterday than the day before @Outsider. Hopefully the rapid withdrawal isn't as bad as anticipated. What is the reason your doc gave you for CT'ing the pregabalin? Why is he ok with diazepam but not pregabalin?

 

Someone had linked me with a good article on how to deal with migraines, just have to find it again. I will link it when I locate it. 

 

Sorry this is happening to you : (

 

He thinks I'm delusional and just pretending to be sick to attract attention. 

And that amount of Pregabalin shouldn't do anything to anyone. 

 

Who knows? Maybe his next target is a Diazepam CT too. 

If he does it, I no longer care, I'd kick him and go to jail, I'm done. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Pregabalin is completely stopped today, let's see what happens. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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I hope it is not as bad as expected @Outsider. Please let us know. 

 

You sound like you need a different doctor. Unfortunate that we sometimes have little choice. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Argh great.. I just found out that he's reducing my Diazepam dosage to half in less than 20 days.. 

 

This guy is trying to murder me.. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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It's becoming a little too hard to breathe.. I don't know if it's because of the flu of withdrawal (Cloud be Corona too)

 

Nerve attacks are frequent 

 

I just feel like sleeping all day.. Too exhausted.. To hard to do anything.. Twice as hard as usual if not more.. Should I sleep as much as possible or. Fight it? 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Think you should sleep if you can, @Outsider. Will try to answer a bit more tomorrow. Hopefully sleeping helps things. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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If you are feeling like you can't catch your breath, that is a very common wd symptom people have. Often they feel like they can't breathe deeply enough or get the usual satisfaction from breathing in. Let's just hope it passes.

 

Here is a list of the most common covid symptoms, just in case: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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How are you doing after the rapid pregabalin wd, @Outsider?

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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@DataGuy nerve attacks almost twice a day, exhausted all day, breathing issue nearly gone

 

Tho I'm almost out of Diazepam and the doc doesn't want to prescribe 10 to me anymore, so I'm down to 6 MG, this is the 3rd day, I have no idea how disastrous this'll be, especially after Serotonin Toxicity, the tumor not being gone yet and me using Triptans for the nerve attacks (Zolmitriptan 5 MG or 2.5 MG) 

 

Other docs would just cut it all off in two weeks... And the med itself is scarce.. I really don't know what to do 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Tough situation, @Outsider. You could always show him this boxed warning the FDA put on benzos last year, which mentions that: "Stopping them abruptly or reducing the dosage too quickly can result in withdrawal reactions, including seizures, which can be life-threatening." https://www.fda.gov/media/142368/download

That might make him pause. 

 

Sorry things are so rough. So the breathing issue has gotten better? How long are the nerve attacks lasting?

Edited by DataGuy

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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18 hours ago, DataGuy said:

Tough situation, @Outsider. You could always show him this boxed warning the FDA put on benzos last year, which mentions that: "Stopping them abruptly or reducing the dosage too quickly can result in withdrawal reactions, including seizures, which can be life-threatening." https://www.fda.gov/media/142368/download

That might make him pause. 

 

Sorry things are so rough. So the breathing issue has gotten better? How long are the nerve attacks lasting?

The attacks last 2 days

and he refuses to open any links or anything from the internet, claiming that it's "not a reliable source"
even tho I'm saying it's a world proven resource but he won't listen.

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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I'm so sorry you're having to go through this @Outsider.

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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17 hours ago, Outsider said:

The attacks last 2 days

and he refuses to open any links or anything from the internet, claiming that it's "not a reliable source"
even tho I'm saying it's a world proven resource but he won't listen.

 

Does your country have a policy on benzodiazepine prescribing? They must have something....

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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How are you doing, @Outsider?

Sending best wishes,

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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On 11/30/2021 at 5:09 PM, DataGuy said:

 

Does your country have a policy on benzodiazepine prescribing? They must have something....

They have ones on the limit of it, but no one ever mentions tapering, doubt they'd give a damn even if there was

 

I went down to 7.5 MG Diazepam, planning on another crazy drop to 5 MG next month, I'm sick of fighting doctors.. 

 

I started at November 26 with this dose, first I was waking up with heavy pain surges in the upper parts of my stomach, luckily they didn't end up with a nerve attack like before. 

 

On 12/10/2021 at 11:18 PM, arbor said:

How are you doing, @Outsider?

Sending best wishes,

Arbor

I appreciate that.. I think I'm a little better after I got rid of Pregabalin but the withdrawal of it along with Diazepam is frying my nerves, I'm having nerve attacks at least twice a day and used to take up to 10 MG of Zolmitriptan a day, one of them I had to overdose

Now down to 5 MG or so a day, I guess it's settling down a bit.. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Hi @Outsider--I'm glad your situation is settling down some.  Good for you for getting through this.  Thanks for getting back.

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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Dear @Outsider

Thinking of you, and hoping that you're doing ok.

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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Yes, would love to hear how you are doing, @Outsider. I hope not as badly as we expected. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Hey @arbor @DataGuy

I appreciate checking in on me

 

I'm not sure, it looks like any minor psychological hit can cause extreme physical backlash, still trying to figure out the symptoms but they involve an entire day of.. Seizure-like symptoms and vomiting if I wanted to feel better? 

 

+ my mother tightening up on me trying to play doctor, she's not letting me use Tramadol for extreme cases at all anymore so I have to resort to a Serotogenic med instead (the Triptans) and sometimes overdose on it just to pass by, which is much more harmful 

 

This happens when I push myself psychologically or when I find myself in a psychological pinch.. Which isn't very uncommon being in Syria and sick for years, but I'm trying to avoid it, I don't think I'll fibd a doctor who'll prescribe 10 MG Diazepam fir me anyway, they all think I want to feel high or something, which is exactly what I DON'T want to feel.. 

 

Well.. On the positive side, I do feel some more energy compared to before, just more tired with it, dunno how to explain, I guess my body is trying to deal with the overwhelming situation on its own? 

 

And my mother wants to sell the house to send me to one of those drug addiction centers in the UK 😩 somehow she still believes that the outside has miracles. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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I'm sorry, @Outsider, sounds very rough. Hope things ease off with time. Where are you at now with your medications? 

 

You could always get your mom to read this: https://www.benzoinfo.com/2018/04/20/why-prescribed-benzo-patients-shouldnt-go-to-detox-or-rehab/. Rehab for benzo patients can be pretty dangerous and this explains why. I think I have already posted this, but it is very useful. 

 

Glad you're feeling more energy. It can be pretty scary feeling weak and exhausted but experiencing horrible symptoms. Hope you are able to walk a bit and keep your physical condition up. Another article that might be useful for doctors and family: https://www.benzoinfo.com/2022/01/03/research-suggests-benzodiazepine-use-is-high-while-use-disorder-rates-are-low/?

 

Addiction and substance use are rarely the problem with benzos. Much more often it is strong physical dependence which is the danger.  And here is the FDA black box warning: https://www.fda.gov/media/142368/download

"Physical dependence can occur when benzodiazepines are taken steadily for several days to weeks, even as prescribed. Stopping them abruptly or reducing the dosage too quickly can result in withdrawal reactions, including seizures, which can be life-threatening."

Stopping the prescription abruptly is a breach of medical ethics. They really are required to continue prescribing until you can get safely off. 

 

Sorry about your situation, Outsider. Really hope it improves 🙏

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Dear @Outsider

I'm glad you've felt more energy.  I know the symptoms change all the time.  What we have to go through to free ourselves from the drugs and their effects is unbelievable.  Be sure to let your mother know that the clinics (from everything I've observed) only make the situation worse.  They may work for alcoholism, but not for these medications.

Keep in touch.  Sending you hugs,

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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Dear @Outsider    I hope things are ok for you.❤️🕊️❤️🙏

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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On 2/4/2022 at 6:03 PM, arbor said:

Dear @Outsider    I hope things are ok for you.❤️🕊️❤️🙏

Arbor

Sorry for not being in tough for long

Had technical issues and stuff

 

I am stuck on 7 MG Diazepam currently, I'll update ASAP, thanks a lot for checking up on me. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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So good to hear from you @Outsider.  Glad you're hanging in there. 

Best wishes to you,

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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So @arbor @DataGuy

Sorry for the wait, but I've been getting those "nerve attacks" (they start with intense migraine, then evolve to the attacks I mentioned earlier) very frequently, sometimes with only one day between them

 

And they last one day to two every time after I go to the hospital and get a Tramadol shot or take around 20+ MG of Zomlitriptan with as much of Codeine

 

That kinda started near randomly, and I also went down to 6 MG Diazepam on the day I posted last time but there has been days where I had to take extra 2 MG because my stomach nerve started firing up and that's usually because my body couldn't handle a withdrawal (mostly happens after Tramadol, that's why I try to avoid it) 

 

One other thing, Diazepam is getting really hard to get around here, and I'm having to resort to around 20 MG of triptan daily (total) at many times to get through the day without a nerve attack, is there another benzo I could switch to that isn't much harder to get off? (with similar half life) 

And do you think I should increase my dose again and taper it slower when I switch? 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Thank you for your update, @OutsiderI'm really glad to hear from you.  It must be disturbing to have the Diazepam becoming unavailable.  I hope that @dataguy and you can figure a  plan.  As for the nerve pains--they sound very challenging.  I send you hugs and wishes for you to be free of them.

Arbor 💜💜💜 

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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Can someone reply please? I'm really having a hard time 

It's hard enough to just post this and check here 

Also, I upped my dose to 7 MG Diazepam again

 

And just to note, I'm off Pregabalin since months but it's hard to focus and find the date, I'll check this thread back and locate it ASAP. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Hi @Outsider,

 

I don't think there are too many meds that would be a good substitute for diazepam. If you can get diazepam, I would stick with that. Clonazepam also has a fairly long half-life and would be an acceptable substitute. In the West, this one is often preferred by doctors (for not really any good reason). Here is a benzodiazepine equivalency table where there are a couple more long half-life benzos listed, but these tend to be used more rarely. I can't say I know much about them or their safety.  https://www.benzo.org.uk/bzequiv.htm

 

Are you still taking topirimate? Would it be possible to update your signature? Congrats on getting off the pregabalin. What did you notice in the months after you were off it? How was the progression of symptoms and symptoms severity?

 

I'm sorry you are still experiencing the nerve attacks. I still suspect they are withdrawal related and minimization of meds and stable usage would likely be more beneficial than intermittent use and haphazard updosing. Hope you feel better soon ❤️

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Hi @Outsider,

 

I don't think there are too many meds that would be a good substitute for diazepam. If you can get diazepam, I would stick with that. Clonazepam also has a fairly long half-life and would be an acceptable substitute. In the West, this one is often preferred by doctors (for not really any good reason). Here is a benzodiazepine equivalency table where there are a couple more long half-life benzos listed, but these tend to be used more rarely. I can't say I know much about them or their safety.  https://www.benzo.org.uk/bzequiv.htm

 

Are you still taking topirimate? Would it be possible to update your signature? Congrats on getting off the pregabalin. What did you notice in the months after you were off it? How was the progression of symptoms and symptoms severity?

 

I'm sorry you are still experiencing the nerve attacks. I still suspect they are withdrawal related and minimization of meds and stable usage would likely be more beneficial than intermittent use and haphazard updosing. Hope you feel better soon ❤️

 

I'm still taking topiramate, I tried downdozozing by 12 MG after the first week and experienced severe withdrawal symptoms, I'm pretty sensitive at this point, then got pushed to updoze to 100 MG which is the doze I'm on currently. 

 

It's really hard to use any screens or do anything, I'm getting nerve attacks daily and yesterday, not even (sorry for saying this and I DON'T encourage it at all) overdozing zolmitriptan up to 20 MG at once every time with opiods and 2 MG Diazepam could stop it (it was a total of 80 MG zolmitriptan, at the end I couldn't sit up without help and without vomiting, despite not eating anything) 

 

These started after my last doctor CTed Pregabalin and ordered me to cut down Diazepam from 10 MG to 5 MG, both at once, I actually complained about it here, even the triptans, I restored to them after it because the migraines>nerve attacks blew up right after, when I spent a couple of years trying to get over them and they were finally calming down. 

 

That's why I'm asking if it's a good idea to updoze to 10 MG Diazepam again and taper properly, also the nerve attacks are getting too frequent, I instantly come out of one to another. 

 

I'm really afraid of the nerve attacks.. And honestly my mental strength is at its limits.. I'm tired of fighting.. But what scares me the most is just leaving the nerve attack be and.. I don't know what would happen after

 

I feel like I hit a roadblock.. Every single action needs a fight or a disappointment from my family (who are the only "support pillar" I have at the moment, but they're still doing it as they like, not as I need) 

Every time a new weird thing comes up

It's too hard to remain steady on something 

 

I really don't know.. That hospital visit yesterday was a nightmare.. Even though it was the least painful physically.. I was literally a ragdoll.. Nearly unconscious.. I don't know what was wrong but it was just.. Heavy.. 

 

I want to CT the triptan but too scared of the nerve attack.. 

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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Hi @Outsider,

 

Sorry you are experiencing such extreme symptoms. When was the last time you tried to get through the nerve attack without taking the triptan? What happened? 

 

You said you have been having the nerve attacks daily. Does this mean you've been taking the triptan daily? If so, for how long? 

 

It's possible updosing the diazepam may help, but you need to be able to guarantee you will have an adequate supply and that the doctor will not cut your dose arbitrarily. Keep in mind it's possible updosing won't really help at all and will make things worse long term. Benzodiazepines are neurotoxic, remember, and if your nerve attacks are caused by a complex adverse reaction to medications, taking more diazepam may simply make things worse. 

 

The zolmitriptan does tend to improve pain relief from migraines, but only marginally over placebo. If you leave it alone or take a lower dose, it will likely get better anyway, assuming it has a similar pattern to a migraine. The Cochrane review of zolmitriptan for migraines states that: 

 

"The International Headache Society (IHS) classifies two major subtypes (IHS 2013). Migraine without aura is the most common subtype. It is characterised by attacks lasting 4 to 72 hours that are typically of moderate to severe pain intensity, unilateral, pulsating, aggravated by normal physical activity, and associated with nausea with or without photophobia and phonophobia."

 

They do not last forever and typically remit by themselves with or without medication. Hopefully the nerve attacks follow the same pattern. If they are fundamentally different from migraines, well then, the triptan is not actually proven to help with that condition. 

 

Here is an example of a trial for zolmitriptan: "Results: Each dose of zolmitriptan nasal spray produced a greater 2-hour headache response rate than placebo (70.3%, 58.6%, 54.8% and 41.5% for zolmitriptan nasal spray 5.0, 2.5, 1.0 and 0.5mg, compared with 30.6% for placebo [all p < 0.001 vs placebo])." With response being defined as: "reduced intensity of migraine pain (using a scale of none, mild, moderate or severe) from severe or moderate at baseline to mild or no pain at 2 hours after treatment."

 

Once symptom of withdrawal / nervous system injury is that we might experience discomfort or pain more severely than other people, likely due to hypersensitization of the nervous system. It's important to be calm and not overreact to oncoming pain or nerve attacks by just continually dosing. Set yourself a limit of what amount of medication you will take if you really feel you need it, and then stick to that. Do not give into the impulse to keep dosing more. It might be helpful to just tell yourself that the attack will likely resolve whether you take the medication or not. This is how most medical conditions behave. Medication or treatment often has a fairly trivial effect on the outcome, and comes along with plenty of downsides. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Dear @Outsider--Just wanting you to know I'm thinking of you and hoping you're doing better.

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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On 4/26/2022 at 4:04 PM, DataGuy said:

When was the last time you tried to get through the nerve attack without taking the triptan? What happened? 

 

You said you have been having the nerve attacks daily. Does this mean you've been taking the triptan daily? If so, for how long? 

Really sorry for the late reply @DataGuy @arbor

Lots of stuff happened

 

When I wrote that reply, the last time was probably before I went off Pregabalin completely, that's when I felt the risk and started using triptans.

 

However, the next day after writing that, I quit triptans, opioids, and updosed Diazepam to 10 MG.

 

I took the leap and it worked.

I still got migraines occasionally, but they were just migraines, they never evolved to nerve attacks, I just had to bear through the pain till the next day.

 

I quit all sorts of pain killers too even Paracetamol (Apparently I'm too sensitive that I'm having relapses even from that.)

 

But I got an infection that spread to my stomach, and one vomit scratched all my digestive tract, spent a day waiting for the ER doctors to recognize that there's a problem (yes, it was THAT ridiculous, I vomit blood and they still don't take it seriously), and the next at hospital. 

 

The main problem now tho is fighting everyone to taper slowly, they're so mad that I updosed, and they're taking every chance to speed up the taper or call me an addict, the doctor doesn't seem fond of this, and I'm pretty much not on a stable ground. 

 

I wonder, if I leave the country, can I like , get an online prescription before I leave from somewhere then get my required dose when I reach my target country?

 

I can't go to an expensive country in the west and the cheap ones aren't likely to have good doctors.

 

Again, sorry for taking too long to reply, thanks for checking on me and the kind wishes Arbor, also the informative reply DataGuy, it helped back then but couldn't reply because I was caught up in the infection mess and recovering.

 

Ok, forgot to mention, I'm the third day on my taper to 9 MG.

Not sure if it'll work or I won't be able to bear with the withdrawal symptoms, they're starting to kick in.

- 2014 - 2018 >> 3 years of chaotic 4 pack prescriptions by 10 different doctors

- 2018 >> cold turkey withdrawal (because they refused to tell me how to go off the meds and I screwed up)

- 2018 - 2020 >> withdrawal effects for 3-ish years, slight recovery after the long fight

- 09/2020? or so >> was put back on Seroxat, lowest dosage but don't remember how much [will update when possible]

- 11?2020 >> Seroxat replaced with Amitriplatine and getting stuck with 10 MG dosage, getting seizures if I go off

- 01/2021 >> Amytriptaline reduced to 5 MG

- 23/01/2021 >> Amytriptaline quit CT, severe withdrawal for a week but went down after

- 23/02/2021 Diagnosed with Occipital Nerve infection because of the withdrawals mess

- 02/2021 - Diazepam 5mg per day

- 06/2021 - 100mg Pregabalin

- 07/2021 - 25mg Topiramate

August:

80mg Pregabalin, Split into 4 doses per day 

Diazepam every 12 hours (1mg at 6 AM and 2mg at 6 PM)

50mg topiramate

September/October 2021 attempt to stabilize:

10 MG Diazepam 

50 MG Pregabalin 

75 MG Topiramate 

Oct 15th 2021: 

Pregabalin (calculated this time,it's the dose I thought it was 80): 26.6 MG split into 4 doses at 6:00 AM, 12:00 PM, 6:00 PM and 12:00 AM

- Diazepam : 10 MG at 6:00 PM

- Topiramate : 100 MG at 6:00 AM (5th day, was 75) 

March 2023:

- 9 MG Diazepam
- 100 MG Topiramate
- 0.5 MG Codeine Phosphate (every 4 hours)  

July 2023

9mg diazepam

125mg topiramate

0.83mg zolmitryptan every 4 hours

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That is really great news @Outsider. Glad you seem to have figured out the nerve attacks. Will reply a bit more later. It is pretty late here (late for me, anyway :)).

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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Dear @Outsider Wow, a lot has gone on for you.  I'm happy to read that the nerve attacks are not as much a problem.  I send you hugs and support as you face your next decisions💜

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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I don't know about getting prescriptions in other countries, unfortunately. I do know doctors in most countries are pretty bad when it comes to psych drugs. There isn't really a good place when it comes to that. There could be a place where it is easier to get a prescription, but I really have no idea where that would be. 

 

I'm sorry about the stomach infection @Outsider. Hope it is getting better. What is your tapering plan for the diazepam? Have the doctors given you one? 

 

Do you think you could update your signature? Are you only on diazepam now? 

 

Very happy you got rid of the nerve attacks. So you are better off now without the opioids, triptans and pregabalin? Those are basically all meds used for various types of pain...benzos are sometimes too. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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