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Hi everyone!

33 years ago, I was put on 20 mg seroxat per day after a very shocking event.

The doctor told me that I would need to take it the rest of my life. I believed him far too long, but after 3 attempts to stop in all these years I finally succeeded, starting Jan 1 2019.

By Jan 2020 I was on 2 mg...celebrating life on holiday when I had a severe fear attack! Never had that before . My dr pursuaded me to start ssri again.... first venlafaxine, then certraline, mirtazapine and finally prozac...but I could not sleep anymore and felt terrible. In July 2020 I managed to stop taking prozac and ever since I have not taken any ssri's anymore...BUT the panic came back every now and then - real fear for almost everything! I feel very down some days and then suddenly that stops...Have you heard of waves and windows??

I could not find it on this site but it explains the sad feelings, high irritation level and sudden changes in my moods. I hope to read some positieve feedback on how to cope with this, other than taking oxacepam to make me feel calm again... 

 

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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Hi, Elisabeth.

 

Welcome to Surviving Antidepressants.

 

On 2/2/2021 at 2:04 AM, Elisabeth1 said:

Have you heard of waves and windows??

I could not find it on this site but it explains the sad feelings, high irritation level and sudden changes in my moods.

 

Please see:

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Toxic Antidepressants - Neuro-emotions

 

These links may also help explain withdrawal symptoms:

 

How psychiatric drugs remodel your brain

 

Healing from antidepressants. Patterns of recovery video (4 minutes)

 

 

You may find some helpful information to handle your symptoms here: 

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements, as many members report their nervous systems are simply too fragile to handle them. However, magnesium and fish oil tend to be calming to the nervous system and many people report they do help. Please only add in one supplement at a time and at a small dose. For more, please see:

 

 King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil)

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

 

Are you off all drugs now? You mentioned "taking oxacepam to make me feel calm again," so I just want to get clarification.

 

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Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Dear Shep,

 

First of all, I am extremely thankful for your message that I found this morning, after lying awake for 5 hours.... I have been struggling ever since last year Feb, when I experienced my very first anxiety attack. The year before, in January 2019, after 31 years, I decided to slowly lower my 20 mg seroxat use. It did not really help me anymore and I did not feel well at all. The doctor disagreed, so I had to do it all by myself. Very slowly, in my opinion, I lowered from 20 - 2 mg in 1 year. No, that wasn't very easy at all but compared to what happened after this, it was!

So in Feb 2020 I was on 2 mg seroxat, on holidays with my husband....then I realized that I felt strange...I did not enjoy it very much, I was irritated for no reason and it felt like my brain had lost its filter. It was a strange experience. THen the 2nd week this turned into an anxiety attack. This lasted 3 days. The doctor on the island gave me xanax.... I took it twice but realized that this was only helping me for 6 hours. Via the insurance company at home we were transported back to the Netherlands (I am Dutch).

THen the rollercoaster started - the doctor told me to stop seroxat and he put me on Mirtazapine. This caused sleeplessness, or at least that was what I thought. He switched to Venlafaxine Sertraline and later to Prozac. In July 2020 I was convinced that the medicins did more harm than good, so I lowered and finally stopped taking the prozac.

Meanwhile I looked for help. Unfortunately this turned out to be a challenging thing. 

One doctor said: you are depressed ; take those pills the rest of your life because you can not live without them. The other schrink said: they are all rubbish those pills. Come see me every week for at least 1 year because I am the only one who can calm you down.....  both not very helpful at all.

Meanwhile, I turned into a person that I have never been (59 years old now, so I do know what I have been like before). Fear, sad, emotionally imbalanced, a lot of crying, suddenly feeling very sad - guilty - and then suddenly I feel okay again... all the symptoms that I found on this forum! 

While the psychologist was trying to convince me that I have a personality disorder and kept talking about my past, I felt that this was not right! They could not explain my wild emotional rides at all so this made me feel even worse. What the heck is wrong with me? Am I really going grazy??

Luckely I have been supported by a few people that really listen to me and are there for me. 

Then last week I suddenly realized: I AM AN EX ADDICT! Ofcourse, THAT is what is going on!! My brain has been changed in these 32 years and suddenly has to deal without anti depressants. My eureka moment did give me an afternoon without fear, but the next morning it was back again to wake me up and start my grinding negative thoughts.

 

These last week was a very bad wave - several times I told my husband that I was not sure how long I would be able to take this. Feeling so sad and not knowing when it ends... 

It seems like the waves are getting longer and harder... now I start to understand the reason behind it all... truly an eyeopener.

 

I would love to know how you handle those hard waves... all I can think of is to concentrate on my breath and this will help for some time if I manage to stay with my breath. I am hoping that you have suggestions to help me through them.

 

Again, thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for this forum and the willingness to help eachother! 

 

XxX Elisabeth1

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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19 hours ago, Elisabeth1 said:

Then last week I suddenly realized: I AM AN EX ADDICT! Ofcourse, THAT is what is going on!! My brain has been changed in these 32 years and suddenly has to deal without anti depressants. My eureka moment did give me an afternoon without fear, but the next morning it was back again to wake me up and start my grinding negative thoughts.

 

Yes, you are spot on here. But I would switch out the word "addict" for the word "dependent." This is a brilliant post about the dependency effect of antidepressants:

 

How psychiatric drugs remodel your brain

 

20 hours ago, Elisabeth1 said:

I would love to know how you handle those hard waves... all I can think of is to concentrate on my breath and this will help for some time if I manage to stay with my breath. I am hoping that you have suggestions to help me through them.

 

You may want to check out some of Dr. Claire Weekes work. Dr. Claire Weekes comes highly recommended for helping people learn how to manage and cope with anxiety. 

 

Dr. Claire Weekes - How To Recover From Anxiety

 

And this is a great short video on acceptance. 

 

Dr. Claire Weekes: How to accept the physical symptoms of nervous illness video (1.5 minutes)

 

And you can find loads more out there on YouTube by googling Dr. Claire Weekes. 

 

Dr.Claire Weekes - How to overcome Anxiety - (YouTube - 1 hour, 20 minutes)

 

For breathing exercises, please check out Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn's mindfulness videos. Here's a short one you can use throughout the day as needed:

 

The Breathing Space by Jon Kabat Zinn video (4 minutes)

 

And there are tons more out there on YouTube. 

 

Are you taking any supplements? In my first post, I listed the links for the fish oil and magnesium threads. If you're not already taking them, you may want to add in one at a time and at a low dose and see if that helps. 

 

Please let us know how you're doing over the coming days. In time, these symptoms will fade out. 

 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Elisabeth1

Thank you very much for the information Shep!

 

The supplements I take daily are magnesium citrate, vit D3, and multivitamins.

I ordered magnesium to put in to my bath with lavender oil...looking forward to that.

 

Today I had my first anxiety free visit to the shops. So happy to experience progress.

 

As I read all the stories I realized that I should stop taking oxacepam as well. 

So last night I just took the magnesium before bed... yes, I did wake up after a few hours and stayed awake for some time, but I decided to not focus on it, but stay relaxed...it helped me to fall asleep again. This morning, I woke up not feeling stressed and worried, as I did the last few weeks.

 

Finding this forum has given me a very positive boost!!  

 

Thank you!

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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Hi and welcome Elisabeth!

 

It must have been really hard to experience all those symptoms whilst not knowing what was going on for so many months! I had a very similar experience where after tapering last year I suddenly started having panic attacks, felt emotional unstable and was very easily agitated. This went on for about three months until I started experiencing more debilitating symptoms like dizziness, derealisation and crippling anxiety. For me it was also a huge relief to find this site and to finally understand what was going on!  You might already know, but Seroxat, Paxil are brand names for the substance Paroxetine. Knowing this might help you finding relatable stories here.

 

It is really good to see that you are already seeing improvements! When a new wave hits and I feel like I took 3 steps back again reminding myself of this progress I made helps me to stay positive even though my WD (withdrawal) is trying to make me think otherwise.

 

I think the most helpful advice I got here was to be gently to yourself. To accept that there is not much I can do to make me feel better in a wave and that I have to make myself as comfortable as possible to sail through the storm.

 

Things that I could do and helped me when in a wave are:

- Stopped drinking caffeine (For me this helped a lot with feeling restlessness)

- Stopped drinking alcohol

- Talking to my wife/family/friends about how I feel

- Stopped watching the news and any kind of show/movie with violence or triggering effect on me

- Taking two glasses of magnesium citrate (without calcium) dissolved in water which I drink gradually during the day

- Stopped taking multivitamins (some vitamins are uplifting)

- Breathing exercises like Shep mentioned

- Watching/reading about anxiety/WD coping techniques (I found comfort in watching The lovely grind: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuPoxyZksrRlDJojuJeNs2g)

- Keeping a log of my windows and waves

 

You can also find a lot of success stories here: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forum/28-success-stories-recovery-from-withdrawal/

 

You can be really proud of yourself for being free of paroxetine and making such good decisions as tapering, not following blindly what your uninformed medical professionals were telling you and getting through the WD symptoms!

1998-1999: Got prescribed Paxil

2001: 60mg Paxil per/day
2003 - 2010:  (tried a cold turkey stop attempt) ended up with 20mg
2014 - 2016: Started tapering together with GP
2016: Went from 5mg to 0mg
Early 2017: Started with Paxil again 20mg
2018: Second tapering try
2018: Went from 20mg to 10mg
2019: Went from 10mg to 5mg
2020: Went from 5mg to 0mg with liquid Paxil (20% steps)
Paxil free since august 2020
 

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Hi Ymmit! Thanks for your replay.

I see you have had a bumpy ride as well...

 

Actually, most of your advises I had already figured out myself. I never drank alcohol so that was easy and half a year ago I started drinking only decaf coffee.

Tv is too much for me right now, except for non violent movies. Same with books. It is so weird! 

 

It has been a very rough year, thinking I was actually going crazy. This forum has given me some peace of mind that this is not the case.

 

Deep down I knew that my brain would need time to adjust to life without paroxetine (seems so logic!), but when you have no support you just forget about that. 

Then when my psychiatrist kept digging, trying to find a reason for my waves, I knew that there was nothing to be found! 

I have told her about my eureka moment a few days ago. She had a positive reaction and I honestly hope that she has learned from this.

 

I do fear the next wave, but I suppose there is nothing I can do about that...I just try to stay calm. Easy to say now, because when I am in it, I feel so absolutely helpless, lonely, & frightened. 

 

How are you doing now? 

 

Kind regards from a completely white Holland. The coldest winter we have had in 27 years!  

 

Have a nice Sunday 

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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On 2/6/2021 at 12:11 PM, Elisabeth1 said:

As I read all the stories I realized that I should stop taking oxacepam as well. 

 

How often are you using oxazepam? Please don't stop cold turkey if you've been taking it more than 2 - 4 weeks.

 

Let us know more about your oxazepam history.  

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Hi Shep, 

 

In April last year my dr send me home with a recipe for oxacepam. When I returned home from the pharmacy I saw that they gave me 180!!! pills of oxacepam!

Three times per day 1 pill for 3 months.... 

I could not believe my ears and eyes and called the dr to ask if they made a mistake. Well no they did not she said. 

 

Curious, especially when you know that she diagnosed me as being depressed at the time.  

I took them during my worst times since April last year and on a few occasions I took 3 pills per day. Other than that I have always tried to keep it for emergency only and every now and then to sleep.

 

The last 2 years I have felt misled by my dr for prescribing seroxat every 3 months for all these years.

The 180 pills of oxacepam made me realize even more that I have to look after myself and not blindly trust my doctor anymore. It is sad but true.

 

So no worries about cold turkey for me. I will never ever become addicted to any sort of pills in my life EVER again.

 

Thank you for caring 💛

 

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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15 hours ago, Elisabeth1 said:

I took them during my worst times since April last year and on a few occasions I took 3 pills per day. Other than that I have always tried to keep it for emergency only and every now and then to sleep.

 

Thanks for the additional information. Just trying to gage if some of your symptoms may be from oxazepam dependency - how often have you taken this drug over the past 2 months? Once a week, twice a week, etc.? 

 

Sadly, doctors are very ignorant about these drugs. Good thing you did your research! 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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I think that would be maybe 10-15 pills over the last 2 months... 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Elisabeth1 said:

I think that would be maybe 10-15 pills over the last 2 months... 

 

Did you happen to keep track of the days you took them? Some people develop dependency with only a few days use, so if you have more detailed information, it would help guide your path forward in knowing if it's best to simply stop or to reinstate a small amount to taper. The reason I'm hyper-focusing on this is because I'm wondering if your panic attacks may be related to the benzo. 

 

How is your sleep these days? Is it improving? 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Well, the panic attacks I had were before I had taken oxacepam, so there is no connection there.

 

I took oxacepam every now and then, maybe 3 per week, during the last wave (that lasted around 2-3 weeks and stopped last week) when I just felt extremely down, sad, negative, suïcidal thoughts and crying over nothing and very bad sleep.

 

This is my day 5 of a clear mind, no suïcidal thoughts at all & happy feelings. 

 

My sleep is not perfect, but it seems the more I accept it as a fact and try to relax, the sooner I do get back to sleep...

 

The one thing that really did help me during the waves was acupuncture! Does anybody else experience this as well??

 

I also wonder how others cope with the waves... do they see a psychiatrist or do they stay in bed all day?

My routine was to just lie on the couch. Hardly able to talk, walk, interact with anybody without crying and constant negative thoughts.

Irritated over nothing at all - not very pleasant to be around! Even for me it wasn't.  

 

 

 

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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23 hours ago, Elisabeth1 said:

This is my day 5 of a clear mind, no suïcidal thoughts at all & happy feelings. 

 

My sleep is not perfect, but it seems the more I accept it as a fact and try to relax, the sooner I do get back to sleep...

 

This is excellent, Elisabeth. Very glad to read this. 

 

23 hours ago, Elisabeth1 said:

The one thing that really did help me during the waves was acupuncture! Does anybody else experience this as well??

 

 

Yes, some people do find it helps, other not so much. It's really individual, but it's great that you find it helpful. 

 

One problem we see is some acupuncturists want to treat withdrawal symptoms they same way they treat depression symptoms, so they may use activating techniques. For more on member experiences, please see:

 

Acupuncture 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Hi Elisabeth!

 

On 2/7/2021 at 11:29 AM, Elisabeth1 said:

Actually, most of your advises I had already figured out myself. I never drank alcohol so that was easy and half a year ago I started drinking only decaf coffee.

Tv is too much for me right now, except for non violent movies. Same with books. It is so weird! 

 

It has been a very rough year, thinking I was actually going crazy. This forum has given me some peace of mind that this is not the case.

That is really good! For me it was the same, I was so overwhelmed in the beginning and it took quite a while to learn what helped me to cope and to what extend I just had to try to accept the situation and not force myself. This forum was a godsend for me, making sense about what is going on helped me tremendously and there is a lot of very good advice and wisdom to be found on this forum!

 

On 2/7/2021 at 11:29 AM, Elisabeth1 said:

I do fear the next wave, but I suppose there is nothing I can do about that...I just try to stay calm. Easy to say now, because when I am in it, I feel so absolutely helpless, lonely, & frightened. 

Yeah, I totally understand. I see it a bit like a house renovation. In the beginning there is a lot to do and the workers have to make a huge mess, bring down walls, make lots of noise and whatnot which make you feel horrible. Every now and then they take a break and give you some relief and you start to see and dream of how the house is going to look like when they're done. That is of course, until the workers suddenly turn up again and pick up where they left off. At some point they will be done and each time it will be a bit less 'inconvenient' (though mistakes will be made "Oh, that was the load bearing wall..."). We have no clue how long it's going to take, but when they are working and make us feel horrible we do get closer to a finished house.

 

For me it also helped to have a positive affirmation I would say to myself in the lines of "This is WD, nothing to worry about, it will pass" when I feel really bad.

 

On 2/7/2021 at 11:29 AM, Elisabeth1 said:

How are you doing now? 

Slowly but surely getting better! It's been a bit over 6 months since I reached 0. My main improvement is that the constant anxiety when in a wave is almost gone. I still get other symptoms, but the anxiety was one of the most debilitating. I also struggled with DR a lot, here I also see a big improvement compared to a few months ago.

 

On 2/7/2021 at 11:29 AM, Elisabeth1 said:

 

Kind regards from a completely white Holland. The coldest winter we have had in 27 years!

Haha yeah, crazy! We are going to enjoy walking in, likely the last weekend, of leftover snow this weekend :)

 

All the best!

 

 

1998-1999: Got prescribed Paxil

2001: 60mg Paxil per/day
2003 - 2010:  (tried a cold turkey stop attempt) ended up with 20mg
2014 - 2016: Started tapering together with GP
2016: Went from 5mg to 0mg
Early 2017: Started with Paxil again 20mg
2018: Second tapering try
2018: Went from 20mg to 10mg
2019: Went from 10mg to 5mg
2020: Went from 5mg to 0mg with liquid Paxil (20% steps)
Paxil free since august 2020
 

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On 2/13/2021 at 11:21 AM, Ymmit said:

Yeah, I totally understand. I see it a bit like a house renovation. In the beginning there is a lot to do and the workers have to make a huge mess, bring down walls, make lots of noise and whatnot which make you feel horrible. Every now and then they take a break and give you some relief and you start to see and dream of how the house is going to look like when they're done. That is of course, until the workers suddenly turn up again and pick up where they left off. At some point they will be done and each time it will be a bit less 'inconvenient' (though mistakes will be made "Oh, that was the load bearing wall..."). We have no clue how long it's going to take, but when they are working and make us feel horrible we do get closer to a finished house.

That is a nice way to visualize the wave! But somebody needs to say it to you when you are in it right? 

 

Good to hear you are doing better.. So am I, today is day 11 of a clear mind and I am very happy about that :) I just keep my fingers crossed XxX

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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Thanks for asking!

Well, discovering this website and information on waves and windows has made my life a bit easier!!

My gut feeling was right all the time. The seroxat (and the other ssri's) and oxacepam have damaged my brain and this needs time to heal. It seems so logic to me but I felt so alone for so long on this issue!

Through your website I also came in contact with another Dutch lady with similar PAWS symptoms. This feels like a godsend to both of us.

I realize that there will be waves after the windows and found myself starting a wave again a few days ago. I try to cope with them the best I can... during this wave I feel unstable, very emotional, anxiety, very bad sleep and lots of irritations over nothing. There is not much I can do about it: I keep reminding myself that it will pass....

And, it feels like this wave is less heavy than the one about 15 days ago. Is it because of all I have learnt these last 2 weeks, or is my brain slowly recovering.... I keep my fingers crossed X

 

 

August 1988-Jan 2019

20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 

20-2 mg seroxat

First severe panic attack

in Jan 2020 

 

Doctor advised to stop seroxat and tried Mirtazapine, venlafaxine & fluoxetine without much effect. Sleepless nights did not stop - very emotional and sad

July 2020 - I quit the fluoxetine.

Since then I use Oxacepam 10 mg to calm me if really needed. (And I really need that lately)

 

 

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Here is the other Dutch lady. Also tremendously happy with this site and all its information, and  my new dear friends  ( I also found a Dutch man friend on this site.)It is all so helpful and warm. We will get through this ugly nasty PAWS. Thanks very much@Altostrata

1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps

2008-2018 10 years Prozac  30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac

after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in.

2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month.

2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019

2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work.

march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine

April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper

AD free since 29 July 2020

 

 

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