Andrei : Olanzapine cold turkey after 2 weeks .

[Andrei]

I have OCD and because of it I have some sleeping problems . My doctor put on olanzapine 5 mg and zopiclone 7.5 mg(sleeping pill) . 

Olanzapine gave me some bad side effects like problems thinking , with memory , anhedonia ,suicidal ideation and finally decided to quit .I still find difficult to focus on studies but I hope for the better .I took it for about two weeks and in the second week a bit randomly . I have one week since I stopped and apart from some sleep difficulties  and some sleep hallucinations (which last night i didn't have them at all) I am quite ok . I also take suppliments like multivitamins( magnesium, thiamin , niacin , vitamin C, B 6 , B12 ...etc).

Reading the stories on this forum made me sad and worried . Right now I am bit confused in the sense that i do not know if what i am going through are withdrawals or not. The reason why I am on this forum is to ask for an advice on what to do if the things are getting worse . I know nothing about the taper method at that time and now I wonder if would be ok to taper just in case the withdrawals are coming and they're going to be unbearable. How is it safe to taper from 2weeks of 5 mg . I've read about the 10% in four weeks rule but that applies to my situation also?

Would be sad to live in that state for so long . Please help!

 

my timeline with olanzapine and zopiclone

28 ian 2021 - 4 feb - 5 mg ( on 31 feb I also took 7.5 mg zopiclone)

5 feb - off

6 feb -5 mg

7 feb -5 mg + 7.5 mg zopiclone

8 feb -2.5 mg

9 feb - 2.5 mg

10 feb 3/4 of 5 mg

11 feb  - off

12 feb 5 mg 

13 feb - 7.5 mg Zopiclone

14 feb - 7.5 mg Zopiclone

 

Edited Saturday at 03:38 PM by Erell
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[Erell]

Hello Andrei

 

And welcome on SA. 

 

This site is run entirely by volunteer Administrators and Moderators, all have been through or going through withdrawal.

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--》 I understand that you've given the infos above but could you please create a drug signature ? Please include drugs, dates, discontinuations. Also include supplements. This will help us give you the most accurate advice we can, and allow us to see your history at a glance.
 

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-> Are you currently still taking Zopiclone ?

 

18 hours ago, Andrei said:

.I still find difficult to focus on studies but I hope for the better .I took it for about two weeks and in the second week a bit randomly . I have one week since I stopped and apart from some sleep difficulties  and some sleep hallucinations (which last night i didn't have them at all) I am quite ok .

I'm glad to know that despite some sleep difficulties you're doing relatively ok.

 

Nobody can predict how a body will react while introducing a psychdrug, and nobody can predict how and how long it will react when quitting it.
However, you only took Olanzapine for two weeks and you're already seeing improvements which is a good sign.

 

18 hours ago, Andrei said:

I also take suppliments like multivitamins( magnesium, thiamin , niacin , vitamin C, B 6 , B12 ...etc

 

When did you start supplements ? 
We usually recommend people to avoid multivatims and to try one substance at a time and at low dose to see how it affects you.
 

18 hours ago, Andrei said:

I have OCD and because of it I have some sleeping problems .

Have you considered to learn some non-drug coping skills ? For example, some people find CBT therapy to be useful while dealing with OCD, perhaps you'll find these threads interesting : 

 

cognitive-behavior-therapy-cbt-for-anxiety-depression-and-withdrawal-symptoms

 

online-cognitive-behavior-therapy-lessons

 

 

Please, let us know how you're doing and details about your current Zopiclone use, this will help us to understand better your situation and provide suggestions.

Again, welcome

Edited Saturday at 03:38 PM by Erell

[Andrei]

Hi Erell ,

 

I have stopped taking Zopiclone . Now I am in the 9th day since I quitted zyprexa cold turkey and I have some little insomnia . I still can sleep like 4-5 hours plus some naps but I do not know what to expect further . In case the withdrawals are going to be too severe what are you advising me to do? I know reinstatement is a solution but in my case I should take the same amount and taper 10% in 4 weeks? I took the for about 2 weeks ...

Please Help !

[Andrei]

The supplements I start taking them while I was on medication and I am still taking them . Are they harmful? They are just vitamins... 

[Andrei]

Hi ,

 

I took olanzapine 5mg for about 2 weeks and I stopped taking it cold turkey . At the moment I am in day 10 since i stopped and apart from some sleep difficulties( 4-5 hours per night) I do not experience any other symptoms , just some stress and worries that it could be worse in the future . Reading so many stories on this forum made me realize that the withdrawals are very unpredictable .

 

I would like to be advised about the taper method in case the withdrawals are going to be too brutal . Since I took to drug for about 2 weeks/ 5 mg can I taper faster and with a smaller amount ? Does anyone was in my situation ? I also want to know does anyone successfully recovered after 2 weeks of cold turkey? The protracted withdrawals are experienced by anyone that stopped cold turkey?

 

Please replay , I am very worried.

Edited Monday at 07:03 PM by manymoretodays
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[Andrei]

These are the vitamins I am taking https://mecindo.dk/solaray-mega-b-stress-250kapsel-da?gclid=CjwKCAiAyc2BBhAaEiwA44-wW07bKywjz1crYRJMUdYeuZawT0qKeDrDjRZ0mqyJ9qCEZK6k2ltd_hoCUA0QAvD_BwE

[Gridley]

Andrei,

 

Welcome from me too.

 

Regarding the Olanzapine, at this point it looks like you've been on it a little less than 3 weeks.  A person is at risk of withdrawal symptoms after between 3 to 4 weeks on a psychiatric drug.  It's possible you could just stay off it with no reinstatement.  Your symptoms seem mild.

 

Regarding the B vitamin,  B vitamins can be too stimulating for someone affected by psychiatric drugs.  

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

In your signature, please list all drugs and dosages. 

 

If you went off olanzapine, you have no other withdrawal symptoms, and your sleep has improved to 4-5 hours a night, that's not too bad.

 

It sounds like your worrying is your worst problem and may be interfering with your sleep, which was your original problem.

 

Rather than taking psychiatric drugs for this unfounded worrying about the future, you might look into non-drug treatments, such as cognitive behavior therapy for the worrying thoughts. Also see:

 

What is the sleep cycle?

 

Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Path to Better Sleep FREE online for everyone from the US Veterans Administration

 

Music for self-care: Calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

White noise devices for sleep

 

Melatonin for sleep: Many people find it helpful

 

You might also postpone the B vitamins for a while, B vitamins can keep you awake.