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Elisabeth1

Hi there,

Does anybody get help from a psychiatrist to get through a wave? And if so (or not) what kind of support is helpful for you? 

I find myself looking for help but PAWS is (still) unknown in The Netherlands.

I am not even sure what to ask for but some moral support  would be so welcome!

Any suggestions??

 

August 1988-Jan 2019 - 20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 - tapered from 20 mg  to 2,6 mg seroxat

Feb 2020 - 2,6 mg seroxat - First severe panic attack

Back on ssri: from sertraline, venlafaxine, mirtazapine to fluoxetine - no effect at all

July 2020 - tapered down fluoxetine to 0 - finally AD free after 32 years!!

Many waves and windows but I had no clue I was having withdrawel, untill:

Feb 2021 : 17 window days - 11 wave days

March 2021: 6 wave days - 25 window days

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Hello @Elisabeth1 ,

maybe the moderators or someone with more experience than me is better to answer this question. I will only Talk about what I've encountered here where I live (UK), maybe other people have different opinion or experience.

Ater talking to 5 different therapist, none of them believed me when I explained about AD WD. However, I found that working in the áreas for what I was put on AD in the beginning and finding techniques to manage my anxiety throught CBT has helped to manage a bit the waves.  

March 2019: 10mg Citalopram

April 2019: 20mg Citalopram

October/November 2019(sorry, I don't remember the exact date): 10mg of Citalopram without tapering, as suggested by my pharmacist. 

March 2020: Started "tapering", taking the 10mg of Citalopram every other day, again, following the recommendations of my pharmacist. 

April 2020: Stopped taking Citalopram.

I haven't reinstall since then. I've tried taking Magnesium a couple of times, but I found out it makes me nervous. I only take Paracetemol when the headache becomes unbearable (2gr every couple of weeks or so). 

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Elisabeth1

Hello @almuPA,

 

Sad to hear that your therapists did not believe you. I have found one who does believe it, but has no clue how to help! So hopefully there will be others with more positive expieriences....

 

August 1988-Jan 2019 - 20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 - tapered from 20 mg  to 2,6 mg seroxat

Feb 2020 - 2,6 mg seroxat - First severe panic attack

Back on ssri: from sertraline, venlafaxine, mirtazapine to fluoxetine - no effect at all

July 2020 - tapered down fluoxetine to 0 - finally AD free after 32 years!!

Many waves and windows but I had no clue I was having withdrawel, untill:

Feb 2021 : 17 window days - 11 wave days

March 2021: 6 wave days - 25 window days

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DutchMaddy

Hi @Elisabeth1my therapist said that bodywork is helpful. Like massages. Haptonomie, shiatsu. Something that feels good and will get you out of you’re head and you’re troubled mind😏

1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps

2008-2018 10 years Prozac  30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac

after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in.

2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month.

2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019

2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work.

march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine

April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper

AD free since 29 July 2020

 

 

 

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Elisabeth1

Very true, but you can not do this every day unfortunately :(

August 1988-Jan 2019 - 20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 - tapered from 20 mg  to 2,6 mg seroxat

Feb 2020 - 2,6 mg seroxat - First severe panic attack

Back on ssri: from sertraline, venlafaxine, mirtazapine to fluoxetine - no effect at all

July 2020 - tapered down fluoxetine to 0 - finally AD free after 32 years!!

Many waves and windows but I had no clue I was having withdrawel, untill:

Feb 2021 : 17 window days - 11 wave days

March 2021: 6 wave days - 25 window days

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Nomansland

Hello everyone,

 

changing the mind of so many uninformed psychiatrists/therapists is a long and slowly process.

 

Showing them this leafet can help convincing them.

 

Currently its available in english and german (see here). We are working to make it available in other languages.

 

Greetings

 

Nomansland

IMPORTANT WITHDRAWAL PRINT-OUT: "Stopping Antidepressants" by Royal College of Psychiatrists

 

non-native speaker of english

3-March 2020 started Mirtazapine 15mg
3-March to 6-april aprx cutting to 0 mg
6-April to 20-April -> ~ 7,5 mg,

21-April to 31-April -> 15 mg,

1-May to 13-May -> ~ 10 mg (approx),

15-May to 19-July -> 15 mg (psychosomatic clinic)
started taper with scale and file: 19-July 2020 -> 14 mg (-6,6%), 08-August -> 12 mg (-14,3 %), 27-August -> 10 mg (-16,6 %), 15-September -> 8 mg (-20 %, bad idea, heavy WD) 23-September -> 10.2 mg (+20 %, 102 mgpw) from here windows and waves...holding

 

Supplements: 2 x 250 mg magnesiumbiglycinate daily, low histamin diet

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DutchMaddy

You are right @Elisabeth1😪

take care! So happy to have met you. You are my inspiration!! Hold on!!😘

1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps

2008-2018 10 years Prozac  30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac

after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in.

2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month.

2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019

2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work.

march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine

April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper

AD free since 29 July 2020

 

 

 

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DutchMaddy

Thank you! @Nomansland

1999-2000 1 year Fluvoxamine/Luvox/ stopped CT no witdrawal symtoms maybe 2 days brainzaps

2008-2018 10 years Prozac  30 mg. Stopped bacause I was getting depressed again, went to Pdoc en got Welbutrin cut down 20 % of Prozac

after 2 month when felt litlle better cut rest of Prozac. withdrawel set in.

2018- jan 2019 took welbutrin 150 mg, did not work, tapered off with taperingstrips in 4 month.

2 month AD free then started Fuvloxamine again on july 5th 2019

2020 added Lamotrigine 150 because it did not work.

march 10 2020 CT lamotrigine

April 2020 stop fluvoxamine with a 4 month taper

AD free since 29 July 2020

 

 

 

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Elisabeth1

Thank you @Nomansland for your info. 

I have already tapered off since July 2020 but suffer from the waves (14 days in a row now). This article is mainly about slow tapering..

I hope there is an article on how to deal with the waves. I realize this might be an utopi because every wave is different and so are we, but there must be something in common that helps.... even maybe just a little bit? 

August 1988-Jan 2019 - 20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 - tapered from 20 mg  to 2,6 mg seroxat

Feb 2020 - 2,6 mg seroxat - First severe panic attack

Back on ssri: from sertraline, venlafaxine, mirtazapine to fluoxetine - no effect at all

July 2020 - tapered down fluoxetine to 0 - finally AD free after 32 years!!

Many waves and windows but I had no clue I was having withdrawel, untill:

Feb 2021 : 17 window days - 11 wave days

March 2021: 6 wave days - 25 window days

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Elisabeth1

@DutchMaddyThank you so much for your support 😘

August 1988-Jan 2019 - 20 mg seroxat

Jan 2019-Jan 2020 - tapered from 20 mg  to 2,6 mg seroxat

Feb 2020 - 2,6 mg seroxat - First severe panic attack

Back on ssri: from sertraline, venlafaxine, mirtazapine to fluoxetine - no effect at all

July 2020 - tapered down fluoxetine to 0 - finally AD free after 32 years!!

Many waves and windows but I had no clue I was having withdrawel, untill:

Feb 2021 : 17 window days - 11 wave days

March 2021: 6 wave days - 25 window days

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