Mutfael Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 Lately I suddenly feel a lack of concentration, dizziness and a feeling of falling.. and if I talk to people I feel confused and that I will pass out!! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Conner Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mutfael said: Lately I suddenly feel a lack of concentration, dizziness and a feeling of falling.. and if I talk to people I feel confused and that I will pass out!! This is what happened to me and developed “PPPD”. Those are all classic symptoms 36/M, started 10mg escitalopram June 2011 Sept 20th 2021 - increased 10mg to 15mg. Oct 1st 2021 -November 16th 2021 drug merry go round. Effexor, Zoloft, pristiq. Nov 22nd 2021 - lexapro 5mg nov 29th, 2021 - lexapro 10mg Dec 29th, 2021 - lexapro 15mg Jan 20th, 2022 - lexapro 20mg Jan 25th,2022 - lexapro 15mg,Feb 15th,2022 - lexapro 10mg ,Nov 22nd, 2021 - Dec 20th, 2021 -Xanax .25 X2 a day,Dec 20th, 2021 - Jan 16th, 2022 Klonopin .25 daily 2022 ,-June 25 - 7.5mg pill, 2.5mg liquid ,-June 28 - 5mg pill, 5mg liquid ,-July 18th - 9.8mg (5mg pill, 4.8mg liquid),-Aug 1 - 9.6mg (5mg pill, 4.6 liquid) ,-Aug 16 - All liquid (9.6MG) ,-Sept 18th - 9.4MG,-Oct 18th - 9.2MG. -Nov 21st - 9MG 2023, April 17th - 8.8MG, May 15th - 8.6MG, June 19th - 8.4MG, Aug 1 - 8.2Mg, Sept 2, 8mg, Oct 9th 7.8mg, Nov 6, 7.6mg, Dec 8th, 7.4mg, Jan 23, 7.2mg Feb 28th 7.1ML, March 13 7ML March 30 6.8ml magnesium, fish oil, b vitamins D3 Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Conner said: This is what happened to me and developed “PPPD”. Those are all classic symptoms Hello..thank you but please tell me is it very difficult to get out of Lexapro! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Conner Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mutfael said: Hello..thank you but please tell me is it very difficult to get out of Lexapro! I’m trying to stabilize more before reducing. I’ve been through the ringer since September 2021. I haven’t started yet. I pray it isn’t bad. I won’t lie I’m scared but I know I need to do this 36/M, started 10mg escitalopram June 2011 Sept 20th 2021 - increased 10mg to 15mg. Oct 1st 2021 -November 16th 2021 drug merry go round. Effexor, Zoloft, pristiq. Nov 22nd 2021 - lexapro 5mg nov 29th, 2021 - lexapro 10mg Dec 29th, 2021 - lexapro 15mg Jan 20th, 2022 - lexapro 20mg Jan 25th,2022 - lexapro 15mg,Feb 15th,2022 - lexapro 10mg ,Nov 22nd, 2021 - Dec 20th, 2021 -Xanax .25 X2 a day,Dec 20th, 2021 - Jan 16th, 2022 Klonopin .25 daily 2022 ,-June 25 - 7.5mg pill, 2.5mg liquid ,-June 28 - 5mg pill, 5mg liquid ,-July 18th - 9.8mg (5mg pill, 4.8mg liquid),-Aug 1 - 9.6mg (5mg pill, 4.6 liquid) ,-Aug 16 - All liquid (9.6MG) ,-Sept 18th - 9.4MG,-Oct 18th - 9.2MG. -Nov 21st - 9MG 2023, April 17th - 8.8MG, May 15th - 8.6MG, June 19th - 8.4MG, Aug 1 - 8.2Mg, Sept 2, 8mg, Oct 9th 7.8mg, Nov 6, 7.6mg, Dec 8th, 7.4mg, Jan 23, 7.2mg Feb 28th 7.1ML, March 13 7ML March 30 6.8ml magnesium, fish oil, b vitamins D3 Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Conner said: I’m trying to stabilize more before reducing. I’ve been through the ringer since September 2021. I haven’t started yet. I pray it isn’t bad. I won’t lie I’m scared but I know I need to do this Since last May I have been on 3 mg and I still haven't decreased due to the bad condition...In the previous months, I was decreasing at the end of a month, and the situation was almost normal.. but now the situation is very bad, I cannot decrease, I am stuck and I ask God to heal I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Conner Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 @MutfaelGive yourself some grace. To be down to 3mg is incredible! Give yourself more time to stabilize. We will heal 36/M, started 10mg escitalopram June 2011 Sept 20th 2021 - increased 10mg to 15mg. Oct 1st 2021 -November 16th 2021 drug merry go round. Effexor, Zoloft, pristiq. Nov 22nd 2021 - lexapro 5mg nov 29th, 2021 - lexapro 10mg Dec 29th, 2021 - lexapro 15mg Jan 20th, 2022 - lexapro 20mg Jan 25th,2022 - lexapro 15mg,Feb 15th,2022 - lexapro 10mg ,Nov 22nd, 2021 - Dec 20th, 2021 -Xanax .25 X2 a day,Dec 20th, 2021 - Jan 16th, 2022 Klonopin .25 daily 2022 ,-June 25 - 7.5mg pill, 2.5mg liquid ,-June 28 - 5mg pill, 5mg liquid ,-July 18th - 9.8mg (5mg pill, 4.8mg liquid),-Aug 1 - 9.6mg (5mg pill, 4.6 liquid) ,-Aug 16 - All liquid (9.6MG) ,-Sept 18th - 9.4MG,-Oct 18th - 9.2MG. -Nov 21st - 9MG 2023, April 17th - 8.8MG, May 15th - 8.6MG, June 19th - 8.4MG, Aug 1 - 8.2Mg, Sept 2, 8mg, Oct 9th 7.8mg, Nov 6, 7.6mg, Dec 8th, 7.4mg, Jan 23, 7.2mg Feb 28th 7.1ML, March 13 7ML March 30 6.8ml magnesium, fish oil, b vitamins D3 Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 Today the focus is good and I did not feel a lack of focus with and also there is no lethargy today 1 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 I woke up at 2 am and couldn't go back to sleep! Note that I only slept for two hours! ... I feel great tension and sighing and boredom and I have no energy to work or talk to anyone. This is a case that may be the most severe now ... I also suffer from nausea ... I also suffer from pain in the legs and I want to hit them or someone who has a high weight is standing on them! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 By chance, while I was looking for withdrawal symptoms, I found a person named Chicago who took Lexapro and accurately described what I actually and literally suffer from!! I have been suffering for 8 months from this pain mentioned in the Chicago post .. I suffer from pain like a wire extending from the bottom of the foot to the back of the knee to the back of the thigh from my left leg On 11/7/2016 at 11:29 PM, Chicago77 said: I feel a nerve that goes from my ankle all the way up the back of my left leg to my lower back. It's not painful, just sensitive. I have no idea if this is even part of WD or something else. Never felt anything like that before. I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 The situation is volatile during the day, but what I suffer most from is the fear when I open my eyes after sleeping! Therefore, the first minutes after waking up are the most difficult stages of pain during the day! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Ariel Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Hi @Mutfael 5 minutes ago, Mutfael said: what I suffer most from is the fear when I open my eyes after sleeping! Therefore, the first minutes after waking up are the most difficult stages of pain during the day! Do you know this topic already? 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ariel said: Hi @Mutfael Do you know this topic already? I am very grateful for your standing with me and following up on my condition. I will not forget this beautiful for you 🌹 I said that I suffer in waking time and this is what I suffer the most from severe fear, horror, laziness, depression and anxiety and then it begins to gradually decrease during the day..... As for this hormone, I do not know it and have not read about it previously. I will read now and what it is and how it affects .. But there is a point that perhaps the cortisol hormone is only in the morning. I wake up from sleep in the afternoon. Is it also effective every time I wake up or only in the early morning I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Ariel Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Mutfael said: I wake up from sleep in the afternoon. Is it also effective every time I wake up or only in the early morning Yes, many members report waking up in a high-alert state also from afternoon naps or daytime sleep. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 I will give you an example of what I feel, and I hope that you will understand me.. The situation I feel is like someone who has been threatened, prosecuted, meeting an audience, or any misfortune, then sleeps, then wakes up and remembers this event and becomes terrified! This is what I mean exactly, the clearest example, as if I was sentenced to death yesterday, then fell asleep, then woke up, and at the moment of waking up, you remember the moment of pronouncement of the sentence and panic begins..! Note that I do not have any problems, thank God, but only a feeling I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Ariel Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 @Mutfael What you describe is quite common in WD. It's all part of healing. I suggest you read through the topic I sent you above. You may also find it useful to revisit the Neuro-emotions topic: Good luck to you on your continuous healing journey, A. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Mentor Moonpie Posted July 18, 2022 Mentor Share Posted July 18, 2022 @Mutfael I have had this at different times in WD. I can wake up feel okay and roll over and feel the anxiety and terror surge. Then with time it passes. @Ariel sent you good information. I know how frightening it is. It is a WD symptom for sure. Please take care. HUGS❤ 1 .025 Xanax 3 x daily Start date 10-13-2013 through 8-13-2014. Started tapering 6-2014 to 8-2014. Some small discomfort. 25 mg Zoloft - Start date 5-1-2014. 50mg. 6-2014. through 7-14-2014 . Started tapering 7-14-2014, stopped tapering 10-2014. I did 1/4 of the dose a month. small discomfort. These next 3 were prescribed when I made some seriously bad choices with my thyroid medication. Was in ER twice for possible heart attack. INTENSE anxiety, panic, fear. Lost 30 pounds in 2 weeks. Thyroid levels bounced to extremes for 8 months. Dr. prescribed Zoloft 50mg 9-2105. After 2 doses had a bad reaction passed out in my bedroom. Also prescribed Xanax .025 at the same time. 3 times daily, 4 if needed. Was only on it about 2 weeks. Was not working. Trip ER they gave me an Ativan IV and it worked and lasted. switched to Ativan. 9-24-2016. 1.5 mg Ativan - .5 mg three x daily -start date 9/24/16. Attempted taper start 12-16-2016. Was shaving Pills and alternating tapering AM, PM and midday dose weekly. Buspar .5mg -2.5mg. am and 2. 5mg. pm start date 9-26-2016 . Lexapro .10mg start date - 10-26-2016. Found SA and began 10/14/2017 tapering .001 by weight of pill every 4 days Held longer if there were was WD. Was very sensitive to Ativan. 3-15-2018 Off midday dose - 7-16-2018 Off PM dose - OFF ATIVAN! 11-17-2018 10 mg. Lexapro. PM - 5 mg start date 10/11/2016 increased to 10 mg 2/2/17. 1-1-2019 Began tapering Lexapro. .001 gm every 4 days. Held longer if there was WD. Last doses some I held a month. OFF LEXAPRO! 2-21 2021 5 mg. Buspar divided into two, 2.5 mg doses AM and PM- Start date 9/26/2016 Cold turkey on Dr. direction, AM and Pm doses. Reinstated 9-22-16. Began Buspar taper 1-29-23, .001 mg by weight of pills. N.P. Desiccated Thyroid. 1-2023 Labs okay but not where I feel best. 60 mg. daily now but adding 15 mg. more twice weekly for a few months then check. Bioidentical hormones. Bi-est/Prog cream, 1/4 tsp. 1 time daily My intro: Moonpie:. Need help and supporting tapering off of Ativan My benzo thread: Moonpie: Need help Ativan weight tapering Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 I drank two cups of tea this afternoon, then after half an hour I began to feel an increase in tension and anxiety and a dispersal of focus.... Then at sunset time I drank a small cup of coffee, then I felt a lack of concentration and increased anxiety and tension so much that the palm of my hand sweated!.. in general I do not rest If I exchange conversations with people, as the lack of focus increases and it becomes clear on my face, then I start to get nervous .. But if I am alone, the focus improves a little I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Ariel Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 @Mutfael 28 minutes ago, Mutfael said: I drank two cups of tea this afternoon, then after half an hour I began to feel an increase in tension and anxiety and a dispersal of focus.... Then at sunset time I drank a small cup of coffee, then I felt a lack of concentration and increased anxiety and tension so much that the palm of my hand sweated! It is recommended to eliminate caffeine in WD. Caffeine is a nervous system stimulant and therefore can activate/worsen symptoms. This means no coffee, no tea for the duration of WD. Also best to eliminate alcohol, sugar, and any other drugs/neurotoxins. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Moonpie said: @Mutfael I have had this at different times in WD. I can wake up feel okay and roll over and feel the anxiety and terror surge. Then with time it passes. @Ariel sent you good information. I know how frightening it is. It is a WD symptom for sure. Please take care. HUGS❤ Thanks 🌹 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ariel said: @Mutfael It is recommended to eliminate caffeine in WD. Caffeine is a nervous system stimulant and therefore can activate/worsen symptoms. This means no coffee, no tea for the duration of WD. Also best to eliminate alcohol, sugar, and any other drugs/neurotoxins. I will stop tea and coffee, but the problem is that I am a smoker. I tried to quit smoking, but I could not, then after that I quit and went to the vape, where I smoke liquid 4 mg per day with a concentration of 12 nicotine. I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted July 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2022 @Mutfael I have friends who have managed to stop smoking with this book. https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking-ebook/dp/B012YRMG76 In withdrawal stopping nicotine is probably not a good idea but even vaping has lots of toxic chemicals that are harmful so I think if you can switch from vaping to a nicotine patch it may be better. OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, Onmyway said: @Mutfael I have friends who have managed to stop smoking with this book. https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking-ebook/dp/B012YRMG76 In withdrawal stopping nicotine is probably not a good idea but even vaping has lots of toxic chemicals that are harmful so I think if you can switch from vaping to a nicotine patch it may be better. OMW If I could use a nicotine patch I would have quit smoking a long time ago 😌🌹 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 I forgot the dose!!!!! when I woke up today, I felt great fear, horror, an aversion to life, hatred for the situation in general, severe depression, and throughout the day I feel dizzy and a feeling of falling more than usual. 😔 I just discovered that I forgot to take the dose! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 I hope someone with information can help me, and I thank you very much Unfortunately, things get worse.. I suffer from dizziness and dread when I meet my friends. As for strangers, I do not suffer from anything except that I focus a little, but I avoid meeting my friends and I feel afraid and do not look into their eyes, so I try to hide this by evading as I feel dizzy and lack focus when I talk to them.. I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 20, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 20, 2022 You might find it helpful to find a supportive counsellor to learn skills to help you to interact with people. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 17 hours ago, ChessieCat said: You might find it helpful to find a supportive counsellor to learn skills to help you to interact with people. I may need a behavioral therapist.. Thank you 1 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 Today, Friday, I consider it a beautiful window compared to previous days, as the focus is good and there is no lethargy or dizziness, as well as the return of the desire to practice hobbies.. Depression is present, but in a simple way and anxiety is simple I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 23, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 12:18 PM, Mutfael said: Today, Friday, I consider it a beautiful window compared to previous days, as the focus is good and there is no lethargy or dizziness, as well as the return of the desire to practice hobbies.. Depression is present, but in a simple way and anxiety is simple You may want to print this out or bookmark it on your computer or phone. It's always good to re-read posts about windows as a reminder that you're going to heal. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Shep said: You may want to print this out or bookmark it on your computer or phone. It's always good to re-read posts about windows as a reminder that you're going to heal. Actually, I record windows and waves in this topic, and this is a good thing for me and for those who want to know what does Cipralex withdrawal, this poisonous poison!... I write every wave and every window on a daily basis, as you notice. Thank you and thank you for following me 🌹 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 Today is not like yesterday. Friday was a wonderful day by 80%, but today we can say that it is good by 60%, and compared to last month, the current situation is very good, as a month ago I suffered from all the symptoms of severe anxiety, physical pain, lethargy and constant headaches on a daily basis. I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 This morning, I was in a very embarrassing situation.. I was talking to a group of people and in the middle of the conversation, my heart was beating hard and my voice was trembling and I felt faint and fear and dread appeared on my face..! I've never been like this!!!!! I wish the earth would open up and swallow me🤦♂️ I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 Today I did not sleep because of my little daughter's illness.. and I felt depression, lethargy and pain in bones and muscles😵 I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Stomach pain, diarrhea, fever and pain in the back and legs.. It appears that it is real stomach flu or is it withdrawal symptoms I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 Since the early morning, the focus was good and I did not suffer from confusion of focus, and suddenly at 12 noon I had a lack of focus and the desire to close my eyes! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Mutfael said: Since the early morning, the focus was good and I did not suffer from confusion of focus, and suddenly at 12 noon I had a lack of focus and the desire to close my eyes! I forgot the dose, it was supposed to be eight o'clock in the morning, and unfortunately I forgot it, so I had a lack of focus! Then I didn't remember until nine o'clock in the evening, so I took the dose I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
Mutfael Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 The intolerance of heat I think is a symptom of Cipralex! An hour ago, I felt falling, dizzy and collapsing, accompanied by fear, and I felt the heat of the sun where I was in the shade, and the temperature was 48 degrees Celsius!! I got into my car and turned on the air conditioner and drank a lot of water and put water on my head..! I can't stand extreme heat. Is it really a symptom of Cipralex?! I don't speak English fluently but I speak to you with google translator 2005-2006:Diversity in taking medications 2006-2019 Seroxat 20 mg 2020-2021 Cipralex 15 mg Mar 2021 it has decreased from 15 mg to 12.5 mg/Aug 2021 9mg/Sep 12, 2021 8mg/Oct 12, 2021 7mg / Nov 12, 2021 6mg / Dec 12, 2021 5mg / Jan 12, 2022 4.5mg /Feb 12, 2022 4mg/Mar-Apr 3.5mg/May 3mg The beginning of severe withdrawal /sep 23, 2022 2.5mg On March 19, 2023, I ended up in the emergency room, with severe palpitations, panic, and severe mental and physical fatigue, then I went back to a dose of 20 milligrams of Seroxat to this day. Link to comment
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