Demi918 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 @Altostrata, I stopped taking St. john wort on 19th apr and increased my dose of Escitalopram from 1 mg to 1.5 mg. and I am almost in a crisis. My symptoms have gone worst than what they were. I don't know if this is the WD of st, john wort (research indicates that St. John wort may have WD after CT.) or because I up my dose of escitalopram. I should have done one of this first to see body reaction. Can I go back to 1 mg? or now i did 1.5 mg, I should not confuse my brain and stick to 1.5 mg for now?. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Moderator Go2zero Posted April 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Demi918 said: I will stick to Escitalopram 1.5 mg for now This gives a SERT of aproximately 52%. As I read your story and see how fast you tapered, I can only advice to stabilize without changing dosage. Stabilizing can take many months. Again, we are all different. But in my experience after every attempt of stopping it took me longer to stabilize after crashing (due to slow, but still too fast tapering). The more often we change dosages up and down and the more attempts we make to stop and reinstate again, the more upset our CNS becomes... The fact that you stopped St. Johns Worth can increase WD effects. Since St Johns Worth can enhance the effects of a SSRI. As if you are taking a second SSRI next to the first. This also has to settle and stabilize. It is not a good combination these two! 1993 Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006 No medication 2006 Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin 2016 Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems. April 2017 – March 2019 Lexapro 0,6 mg April 2017 - August 2018 Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step. March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..) Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg October 2019 Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg March 2020 Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg Extreme withdrawal effects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020 Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. Jan 2021 : Prozac down to: 0,55> 0,53>0,51mg, Feb 0,47mg , Mar 0,42mg, Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again, Sept 19 0,35, Sept 26 0,34mg, Oct 3 0,33mg Long hold of 172 days until March 2022 January 20, 2022: Wellbutrin from 33,3 to 32,3mg March 22, 2022 Prozac down from 0,33mg to: 0,30mg, Apr 0,29, May 0,28, 0,27, June 0,26, 0,25, July 0,24, 0,23, 0,22, 0,21, Aug 0,20, 0,19 Sep 0,18, Oct 0,17. 0,16, 0,15, Nov 0,14 Jan 2023 0,13, 0,12, 0,11 Feb 0,10, 0,09 Mar 0,08 , June 0,07 , July 0,06, 0,05, Aug 0,04, 0,03, Sept 0,026, 0,024 Nov 0,022, 0,019, 0,016, 0,013 Dec 0,012, 0,011, 0,010, 0,009 Jan 2024 0,008, 0,007, 0,006, 0,005, 0,004, 0,003, 0,002, 0,001, Feb 0,0007. 0,0005, 0,0003, 0,0001, Feb 23, 2024: 0,00000 Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil, only when feeling extreme anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine only when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Go2zero said: It is not a good combination these two! Thank you!. I stopped taking ST. john wort as It has given me serious eye issues. I went to see ophthalmologist and first thing she mentioned is stop takling St. john wort. it is making your eye go dry. I can imagine I am going through two possible withdrawal symptoms. 1 of Escitalopram too fast tapering and of St. john wort of CT ( I had no choice as it was damaging my eye). I have no option to wait and watch I believe as this WDs are serious. All I have to is calm my self and remind myself of not to focus on this temporary suffering but better future. I will wait for @Altostratato tell me if I stick to 1.5 mg of change back to my original dose of 1 mg. I change my dose only as of last 2 days. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 21, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 21, 2021 It takes at least 4 days for a change in dosage to fully take effect. However, if you immediately got a bad reaction from increasing from 1mg to 1.5mg, the increase was not a good idea. You can go back to 1mg. 18 hours ago, Altostrata said: 4-5 hours of sleep is not too bad for someone recovering from withdrawal syndrome. Your other symptoms are mild. Suggest you work on strengthening your sleep via the links I gave you and relax about watching your symptom pattern so closely. By focusing on them so much, you may be convincing yourself they're bigger than they are. Perhaps you might consider non-drug ways to control your symptoms, rather than going up and down in your drug dosage. It does seem you are over-anxious about these changes. Since your withdrawal symptoms are mild, you may be making your own problems. See The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization Neuro-emotions Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep Ways to cope with daily anxiety Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Altostrata said: It does seem you are over-anxious about these changes. Since your withdrawal symptoms are mild, you may be making your own problems. @AltostrataYou are right. the reason I was on this ADs at the beginning was because of my heath anxiety. I had sever migraine and because I thought I had brain tumor I picked up anxiety. and I have been suffering from that day. It just I am a healthcare worker and knowing about drugs or conditions makes you more nervous than you are. I will read through your post and try an be as clam as possible. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 21, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 21, 2021 Please seek professional help or coaching for your health anxiety. Much as we might sympathize, we can't offer that kind of help here. Please do not tag me every day for this type of support. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Altostrata said: Please seek professional help or coaching for your health anxiety. Much as we might sympathize, we can't offer that kind of help here. I agree. however, I do now that symptoms that I feel right now are not of the health anxiety I had and was the reason to start ADs. but purely a WD of escitalopram and now St. John Wort. I really tankful that I have found SA before it was too late to reinstate drug. @Go2zero, Thank you so much. I agree that changing dose to much can make it worst and I have to give myself few months before I could get stable on 1 mg dose. So I will stick to 1 mg Escitalopram until I am ready to tapper further. My symptoms for half day today are 11:30 pm- Went to bed and fall a sleep in about 15-30 min. 4Am- woke up and thought hard to fall a sleep. in about 45 min fall a sleep again. 7 a.m. Woke with anxiety and sever headache 8 :30 a.m. Took my supplements mentioned in signature. 9 a.m. at work, hard to look at computer. 10 am. felts hard DP/DR symptoms. 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch. feeling same. 1pm. Serious Eye pain and warmness. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Moderator Go2zero Posted April 22, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Demi918 said: Thank you so much. I agree that changing dose to much can make it worst and I have to give myself few months before I could get stable on 1 mg dose. So I will stick to 1 mg Escitalopram until I am ready to tapper further. I am glad I could help you with some advice. When you start to taper after being stabilized, please do it slow! Listen carefully to your body and feelings. Too fast tapering will take much more time in the end than going slow.... And the last mg is the most difficult one in my experience. No wonder when you see the extreme high SERT level at 1 mg. There is a lot of support here how you should taper and how to adapt to your personal experiences. When needed I can make a chart for you with the SERT levels in the range of 0,005 and 1 mg escitalopram. About the St John Wort; it is questionable if you are having WD from that itself. But because the enhancing effect on escitalopram, the WD of escitalopram is probably stronger than without taking St John Wort next to it. 1993 Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006 No medication 2006 Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin 2016 Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems. April 2017 – March 2019 Lexapro 0,6 mg April 2017 - August 2018 Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step. March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..) Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg October 2019 Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg March 2020 Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg Extreme withdrawal effects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020 Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. Jan 2021 : Prozac down to: 0,55> 0,53>0,51mg, Feb 0,47mg , Mar 0,42mg, Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again, Sept 19 0,35, Sept 26 0,34mg, Oct 3 0,33mg Long hold of 172 days until March 2022 January 20, 2022: Wellbutrin from 33,3 to 32,3mg March 22, 2022 Prozac down from 0,33mg to: 0,30mg, Apr 0,29, May 0,28, 0,27, June 0,26, 0,25, July 0,24, 0,23, 0,22, 0,21, Aug 0,20, 0,19 Sep 0,18, Oct 0,17. 0,16, 0,15, Nov 0,14 Jan 2023 0,13, 0,12, 0,11 Feb 0,10, 0,09 Mar 0,08 , June 0,07 , July 0,06, 0,05, Aug 0,04, 0,03, Sept 0,026, 0,024 Nov 0,022, 0,019, 0,016, 0,013 Dec 0,012, 0,011, 0,010, 0,009 Jan 2024 0,008, 0,007, 0,006, 0,005, 0,004, 0,003, 0,002, 0,001, Feb 0,0007. 0,0005, 0,0003, 0,0001, Feb 23, 2024: 0,00000 Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil, only when feeling extreme anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine only when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Go2zero said: There is a lot of support here how you should taper and how to adapt to your personal experiences. When needed I can make a chart for you with the SERT levels in the range of 0,005 and 1 mg escitalopram. That would be much appreciated. I will contact you when I am ready. right now I am struggling with everyday anxiety and headache. it is very hard to be focused with everything. plus I am suffering with eye issues too. 3 hours ago, Go2zero said: About the St John Wort; it is questionable if you are having WD from that itself. But because the enhancing effect on escitalopram, the WD of escitalopram is probably stronger than without taking St John Wort next to it. Make sense. but one thing is sure that My dry eyes and double vision plus difficulty focusing on object and words are because of St. john wort (More) and WD of escitalopram (very less) combine as per my ophthalmologist. one of the main reason I stopped CT. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 My symptoms for yesterday are 11:30 pm- Went to bed and fall a sleep in about 15-30 min. 6am- woke up and thought hard to fall a sleep. in about 15 min fall a sleep again. 7 a.m. Woke with anxiety and sever headache 8 :30 a.m. Took my supplements mentioned in signature. 9 a.m. at work, hard to look at computer. eye issue is getting worst. 10 am. felts hard DP/DR symptoms. 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch. feeling same. 1pm. Serious Eye pain and warmness. 4pm. Came home and still have anxiety and sever headache. 6pm - Took acetaminophen for headache. 8pm- took dinner and still feeling anxious and depresed. 11pm- went to bed and fall a sleep in 30 min. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 My symptoms for yesterday are 11:30 pm- Went to bed and fall a sleep in about 15 min. 6am- woke up and thought hard to fall a sleep. in about 7 a.m. still in a bed lit anxiety and headache. 10 :30 a.m. Took my supplements mentioned in signature. 10 am. lit window I can feel it. 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch. feeling same. 1pm. working in a garden and felling less anxious. 4pm. still feeling bit fine. 6pm - feeling anxious again and my vision issue is getting me more anxious. feels like i am trapped in a dark room with double vision. 8pm- took 1 mg escitalopram. dinner and still feeling anxious and depressed. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 My symptoms for yesterday are 11:30 pm- Went to bed and fall a sleep in about 15 min. 6am- woke up and thought hard to fall a sleep. in about 7 a.m. still in a bed lit anxiety and headache. 10 :30 a.m. Took my supplements mentioned in signature. 10 am. lit window I can feel it. 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch. feeling same. 1pm. working in a garden and felling less anxious. 4pm. still feeling bit fine. 6pm - feeling anxious again and my vision issue is getting me more anxious. feels like i am trapped in a dark room with double vision. 8pm- took 1 mg escitalopram. dinner and still feeling anxious and depressed. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 @Altostrata, I need your advise. I am on 1 mg reinstate for about a month now and do not see any improvement. also, my eye vision have gone worst ever since I started 1 mg escitalopram again. after 4 days of starting escitalopram, I started suffering from visual snow, double vision has gone worst, difficulty recognizing person or object from a distance, blurred vision, painful eye, dry eye and throat. other symptoms are DP/DR, anxiety, headache which stays for most of the day with some windows in between. Do you think that 1 mg reinstate is not working for me?. should I stop taking it together or I can up dose to 2 mg to see if I can gain any benefited?. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted April 25, 2021 Mentor Share Posted April 25, 2021 Personally, I reinstated 15mg (was on 10mg before fast taper) and it was hell at first. But it slowly got better and better. So maybe it makes sense raising your dose to 2mg and waiting a few weeks to see if you feel better. I am not a moderator though. - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 28, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 28, 2021 Did you have eye problems or other adverse effects from escitalopram when you were taking 10mg per day? Do you have light sensitivity? Do you eyes hurt when you use the computer? You may want to take small doses of magnesium glycinate throughout the day, it's more effective that way. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Altostrata said: Did you have eye problems or other adverse effects from escitalopram when you were taking 10mg per day? No, I did not had any adverse effect from 10 mg escitalopram. 11 hours ago, Altostrata said: Do you have light sensitivity? Do you eyes hurt when you use the computer? Yes, I do have light sensitivity and blurred vision. my eye hurts while using computer and are dry according to Ophthalmologist. 11 hours ago, Altostrata said: You may want to take small doses of magnesium glycinate throughout the day I do take 200 mg Mg glycinate everyday for past month now. I have been home last todays as my symptoms have progressively gone worst and keeping me out of job. My symptoms yesterday were, 11:30 pm- Went to bed. 3am. my eyes are wide open and it is hard to get a proper sleep. 3:30- slept. 6am- woke up and hard to fall a sleep. 7 a.m. still in a bed lit anxiety and headache. 10 :30 a.m. Took my supplements mentioned in signature. 10 am. in bed just lying hoping to get some sleep. 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch. feeling same. 1pm. in bed again watching some videos. 5pm. trying to connect with family. supper hard to do so. but do not want to go to bed again. 6pm - feeling anxious again and my vision issue is getting me more anxious. feels like i am trapped in a dark room with double vision. 8pm- took 1 mg escitalopram. dinner and still feeling anxious and depressed. 10pm in bed hoping to get some sleep today. 4am. no luck with sleep yet. first time experiencing insomnia for a week now. not use to this feeling. 4;15 am- fall a slepp. 6.30am- woke up again of a bed dream. 10am- still lying in bed. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 28, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Demi918 said: I do take 200 mg Mg glycinate everyday for past month now. 200mg once a day is not sufficient. You might take half a tablet every few hours. If you have light sensitivity and are using the computer, getting eye pain, headache, etc. from it, you will need to reduce light stimulation with tinted glasses or turning down the lights. Light-sensitive? Try blocking out blue light Increased sensitivity to light, noise, sound, exercise etc Inactivity may make sympathetic nervous system hypersensitive... Computer Program Adjusts Blue Light to Time of Day Otherwise, it looks like you tend to make yourself anxious with worry. You will need to be patient. It may very well be that you need to help yourself recover from light sensitivity, etc. rather than seek a pharmaceutical solution. If escitalopram doesn't make you sleepy, you might want to move your dose earlier in the day by an hour at a time to perhaps noon, in case it is interfering with your sleep. See Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep Ways to cope with daily anxiety Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted April 28, 2021 Mentor Share Posted April 28, 2021 @Altostrata I have seen from trusted sources that this blue light thing from screens is a myth. Please watch this video - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 28, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 28, 2021 It may be true that it's not a big worry generally, but when people are light-sensitive from withdrawal syndrome, we find they benefit from reducing light stimulation with tinted lenses. Many of our members like the blue-blocking amber lenses, but anything that reduce light stimulation can work. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Altostrata said: Otherwise, it looks like you tend to make yourself anxious with worry. You will need to be patient. I am trying keeping myself as calm as possible. But My WD symptoms are keep getting worst everyday despite of reinstating 1 mg escitalopram. 16 hours ago, Altostrata said: If escitalopram doesn't make you sleepy, you might want to move your dose earlier in the day by an hour at a time to perhaps noon, in case it is interfering with your sleep. I will move dose to morning gradually. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Update**need urgent help I was in emergency hospital 10 days back due to severe WD symptoms. Like inner agitation, migration, Dp/Dr. Psychiatrist put me on Fluoxetine 10 mg for 10 days and when my condition got worst then I went to ER. so they asked me to come off of Fluoxetine CT and wait for 7 days before starting Escitalopram again. @Altostrata, @Yesyes123 please help. I am in clear hell. I just want to stabilize and not taking any medication as of one day. My psychiatrist asked me to start Escitalopram 5 mg after 7 days. What should I do. looking at my history do you think that I can start 1 mg Escitalopram and try and get stabilized?? i have whole body shake, brain shake, vision shake, brain is paining even in bed. Just pure hell. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted May 19, 2021 Mentor Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Demi918 said: Update**need urgent help I was in emergency hospital 10 days back due to severe WD symptoms. Like inner agitation, migration, Dp/Dr. Psychiatrist put me on Fluoxetine 10 mg for 10 days and when my condition got worst then I went to ER. so they asked me to come off of Fluoxetine CT and wait for 7 days before starting Escitalopram again. @Altostrata, @Yesyes123 please help. I am in clear hell. I just want to stabilize and not taking any medication as of one day. My psychiatrist asked me to start Escitalopram 5 mg after 7 days. What should I do. looking at my history do you think that I can start 1 mg Escitalopram and try and get stabilized?? i have whole body shake, brain shake, vision shake, brain is paining even in bed. Just pure hell. Hey @Demi918 I'm sorry you are going through this. You will stabilize eventually. I am not a moderator but I do read a lot about these things. We need to confirm this with a moderator but if I were you I would probably reinstate Escitalopram 1.5mg and hold for at least 2 months. Since you have been on it for many months, your system is familiar with it and may help you stabilize. Are you taking any supplements or anything else? - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Yes, @Yesyes123, i have been taking fish oil regularly. I have decided to stay of off all medication for a week to see. As i am in a serious cocktail right now. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted May 20, 2021 Mentor Share Posted May 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Demi918 said: Yes, @Yesyes123, i have been taking fish oil regularly. I have decided to stay of off all medication for a week to see. As i am in a serious cocktail right now. Please post all the drugs you have taken here. It's never good to cold turkey anything, not even fish oil. Fish oil is not a drug, it's a supplement and you should probably keep taking it. - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted May 20, 2021 @Demi918 did you feel better on fluoxetine? If yes, why don't you continue to take it? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 No, I have not. With reinstating Escitalopram it took me to Hospital and there with Fluoxetine for 10 days condition got worst then what it was. By staying on both drug my condition got from moving guy to bedridden. How about if I stay completely drug free for now?? @Altostrata Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted May 20, 2021 Mentor Share Posted May 20, 2021 When I reinstated escitalopram, I felt terrible for about 2 months or so before I started to stabilize. - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'm confused about what happened. You were taking 1mg escitalopram, you went to the hospital, you took 10mg fluoxetine for 10 days, and quit. Do you feel better off escitalopram and fluoxetine? It's up to you whether you want to try reinstatement of escitalopram again or not. You will have to learn non-drug techniques to cope with any withdrawal symptoms, which should very slowly and gradually go away. By the way, if your only withdrawal symptoms are disorientation and depersonalization, you're very lucky. These will also go away in time, but you have to not make yourself anxious or depressed about them. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Altostrata said: I'm confused about what happened. You were taking 1mg escitalopram, you went to the hospital, you took 10mg fluoxetine for 10 days, and quit. Do you feel better off escitalopram and fluoxetine? That is right. I went to emergency as I was feeling awful even after reinstating Escitalopram for about month and half so I went to hospital and they put me on Fluoxetine. Which made my condition even worst. So currently I am off of all medication. 14 hours ago, Altostrata said: It's up to you whether you want to try reinstatement of escitalopram again or not. You will have to learn non-drug techniques to cope with any withdrawal symptoms, which should very slowly and gradually go away. I will see what my withdrawal symptoms are and will decide what I will do. For now I will work around non-drug therapy to stay drug free. 14 hours ago, Altostrata said: By the way, if your only withdrawal symptoms are disorientation and depersonalization, you're very lucky. These will also go away in time, but you have to not make yourself anxious or depressed about them. My current symptoms are much more than just disorientation and Dp/Dr. Gaseous feeling in my chest, headache(migraine), shaky, blurred and double vision. Vision seems darker than it is. But I am taking one day at a time. i do feel anxious all day long. But i am in a serious cocktail of drug right now. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted May 20, 2021 What drug cocktail? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Escitalopram and Fluoxetine as there was no wash out. From 1.5 mg Escitalopram, CT to fluoxetine and 10days later CT fluoxetine and no drugs there after. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 20, 2021 Administrator Share Posted May 20, 2021 You might have a little fluoxetine in your system now, no escitalopram. When we say it takes a long time for your nervous system to settle down from withdrawal, we mean months, not weeks. Many people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/ https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/ You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you. How's your sleep? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted May 21, 2021 Mentor Share Posted May 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Demi918 said: But i am in a serious cocktail of drug right now. When we say we are in a "cocktail of drugs" we mean taking multiple drugs at once. But you said you're not taking anything currently, correct? Just to make this clear and help us understand your situation - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 Yes, that’s right. I am not taking any medication at all. I am having sever morning cortisol spike and Morning Anxiety. Is there any technique to over come this condition?? Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
Mentor Yesyes123 Posted May 21, 2021 Mentor Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Demi918 said: Yes, that’s right. I am not taking any medication at all. I am having sever morning cortisol spike and Morning Anxiety. Is there any technique to over come this condition?? I used to have a lot of cortisol spikes and I think taking 2000mg Vitamin C Long Release daily helped me a lot with that. - Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21 - Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0 - Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering. "Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Demi918 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 I started taking 0.50mg Escitalopram every 2week and will work my way up to 2 mg till I feel better. Dec2019 - Started 10 mg Escitalopram for my Anxiety Aug2020- Did DNA pill check work to find out Escitalopram is not for me. Dec2020/Mar2021 - Started reducing my dose to 1 mg every week for 10 week. 4th Mar 2021 - Took last dose of Escitalopram 1 mg. 30th Mar 2021 - Reinstate 1 mg Escitalopram. 19th Apr 2021 - up my dose to 1.5mg. 7th may 2021- hospital staff gave me 10 mg fluoxetine. 17th may stopped taking 10mg fluoxetine. Currently not taking any meds for next 7 days. Stared taking 0.50 mg Escitalopram on 23rd May 2021 Vit D3 800 iu once daily ,vit B12 1000mcg once daily, Neurapas 2 tab once daily (added by my Naturopath) stopped taking on 17th Apr, Mg Glycinate 200mg 1 cap a day. Jan 2023- Started tapering 10% every3months. Nov 2023- Jump from 7.5 to 5mg and felt Symptoms in a month. going back to 7.5 mg on 14th Nov. Link to comment
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