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Hi Star,

it’s good to hear from you. I am better now, much more stabile. I’m planning to taper Citalopram again this fall, to 10 mg. It will take 7 months with the microtaper. The buspar taper gave me a scare so I’ll wait a while before I try that again.

 

I hope you are ok, and that everything went well with your surgery. Im assuming it did since you’re getting ready to taper again!

I tried several times to fix my settings so I get an email when you leave a message here, but I can’t get it right. 

 

Take care 🌼

 

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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Hi Zim,

 

I just saw this!  Sorry I missed it earlier.  Everything went okay with my surgery.  It's been 6 weeks now and I'm planning to start my taper off bupropion.  I'm not happy about how long it's going to take but have to just do it.  I have to keep reminding myself this can't be rushed without backfiring.

 

How are you doing?  

 

Stardust

Current meds:

citalopram 20mg/day. Tapered from 40mg to 20mg June 2021- Feb 2022 using Jozeff's Simple Brassmonkey Slide Tapering Spreadsheet.  

bupropion SR 100mg/day 

buspirone 40mg/day

Ativan 2mg 2016-2019; switched to Klonopin

Klonopin 2mg July- Sept 2019;

Benzo free since Sept 2019 after 5 week taper (way too fast)

Highly recommend BenzoBuddies.org for anyone planning to taper off benzos or currently coping with withdrawal.  It was a lifeline for me.

Supplements: Vitamins D3, C and B12

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Hey Star 🙂

Im ok. Work has been stressful for a while, and Im having trouble sleeping because of that. But in a month everything will go back to normal at work, so one last push and it’ll be over. 

I have changed my mind again about the taper this fall, and decided to try to get down to at least 20x2 buspirone using the microtaper. If it works ok I might keep going to 15x2.

After that its time to taper citalopram again, since it’s an accelerator. I want to get down to 10mg a day. From 20 to 10 mg takes 7 months.

 

If I can manage this I will be down to 25% of  the Citalopram and 50% of the Buspar dosage at the start of my taper, which would be amazing!! Fingers crossed… 

 

I will buy empty capsules and crush and weigh the powder like you recommended. I already have the colored paper 🙂

 

I like that ill be able to prepare a weeks worth of pills instead of trying to weigh powder or measure small amounts of licquid in the morning. I take medicin right after I wake up, and neither my math nor my memory can be trusted in the morning.

 

Take care,

Zim

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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Hi Zim, 

 

I'm glad work stress will ease up for you soon.   

Your plan to do the microtaper sounds great.  

 

I'm curious why you changed your plan and decided to taper the buspirone first this fall. I was thinking that as a "brake" buspirone could help while you taper citalopram, the "accelerator".  I'm sure you've thought about all this but just thought I'd ask about it.

 

It's amazing to think of where we'll be once we've finished these tapers.

 

I look forward to hearing how it's going!

 

Stardust

Current meds:

citalopram 20mg/day. Tapered from 40mg to 20mg June 2021- Feb 2022 using Jozeff's Simple Brassmonkey Slide Tapering Spreadsheet.  

bupropion SR 100mg/day 

buspirone 40mg/day

Ativan 2mg 2016-2019; switched to Klonopin

Klonopin 2mg July- Sept 2019;

Benzo free since Sept 2019 after 5 week taper (way too fast)

Highly recommend BenzoBuddies.org for anyone planning to taper off benzos or currently coping with withdrawal.  It was a lifeline for me.

Supplements: Vitamins D3, C and B12

                         Fish oil

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When I started I was on 40 mg citalopram and 60 buspar. And then I tapered citalopram to 20 mg - down 50 %, so my plan was to taper buspar next, go down 50% on that one as well to 30 mg.

You never know of course, but I was thinking with half the dose of citalopram, half the dose of buspar would be enough.

 

I did 10 % cuts every 4 weeks instead of the microtaper, so I got a lot of anxiety, got scared and stopped at 50 mg. And decided to taper citalopram next, after I got back to wd normal.

 

I really want to lower my buspar dose though, I suspect it is causing most of my bad side effects like brain fog and memory problems since all that got worse after I started taking buspar in 2014. If it wasnt for that I’d do citalopram to 0 first for sure.

 

So I’m going to try a buspar microtaper after everything calms down at work, hopefully in 3 or 4 weeks. 

 

Slow and stead wins the race.

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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Sounds like a good plan - makes a lot of sense.  

 

Take care,

Stardust

Current meds:

citalopram 20mg/day. Tapered from 40mg to 20mg June 2021- Feb 2022 using Jozeff's Simple Brassmonkey Slide Tapering Spreadsheet.  

bupropion SR 100mg/day 

buspirone 40mg/day

Ativan 2mg 2016-2019; switched to Klonopin

Klonopin 2mg July- Sept 2019;

Benzo free since Sept 2019 after 5 week taper (way too fast)

Highly recommend BenzoBuddies.org for anyone planning to taper off benzos or currently coping with withdrawal.  It was a lifeline for me.

Supplements: Vitamins D3, C and B12

                         Fish oil

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I have been trying to find info online on whether buspirone is time-release or not, without success. The fact that you’re supposed to take it 2 or 3 times a day makes me think it isn’t. 

I will start my taper taking two whole tablets and a half crushed one, twice a day.

 

I will take that dose for atleast one week before I start my taper, in case it gives me wd to switch to powder.

 

Unless I have missed something it will work for buspirone to weigh something like a weeks amount of tablets to crush (first week 14 halves), find the average weight per mg, crush the tablets, and then fill capsules with powder, for the first week each weighing a 14th of the total. 

 

That’s my plan. I understand that the weighing and getting the dosage right is the tricky part. I have three weeks to figure that out before I start.

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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Q:  Have you seen Post #1 of this topic?

 

Tips for tapering off buspirone (Buspar)

 

The drug has a very short half life, only 2-3 hours, which is why it needs to be dosed 2-3 times a day.

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These are the calculations for my buspirone taper from 50 to 40mg ai. 

I’m going to try a microtaper, 2.5% a week with 2 weeks hold, for 13 weeks.

 

I’ll first do 1 week to adjust to powder, taking the dosage I take now, 2-1/2 tablets, but crushing the half. 

 

Since I take the medicin twice a day, the numbers for the weeks show half of the microtaper numbers.

 

Weight of twenty 10mg tablets: 4.08 g

 

Average weight one tablet (10mg ai): 

4.08 g / 20 = 0.204 g

 

Tablet or powder weight of 1mg ai:

0.204 / 10 = 0.0204

 

I will take two whole tablets plus the amount of powder calculated below.

 

Week 1 - adjustment to tablets + powder:

1/2 crushed tablet = 5mg ai

 

Week 2 - taper starts:

      4.375 mg ai

      1 mg ai = 0.0204 mg powder

      4.375 x 0.0204 = 0.08925 mg powder

 

Week 3:              3.75 mg ai x 0.0204

 

Week 4:              3.125 x 0.0204

 

Week 5, 6, 7:       2.5 x 0.0204

 

Week 8:               1.94 x 0.0204

 

Week 9:               1.375 x 0.0204

 

Week 10:             0.815 x 0.0204

 

Week 11, 12, 13:  0.25 x 0.0204

 

Week 14:             0 mg powder

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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On 9/23/2022 at 2:45 AM, ChessieCat said:

Q:  Have you seen Post #1 of this topic?

 

Tips for tapering off buspirone (Buspar)

 

The drug has a very short half life, only 2-3 hours, which is why it needs to be dosed 2-3 times a day.

Thanks ChessieCat for confirming that.

I will try crushing tablets this time, that way I don’t have to do any measuring in the mornings!

Since the 90s, off and on: Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac, and maybe others

Lyrica 2003-14

Citalopram: 2012-21 40mg

         taper 2021 aug - 2022 jan to 20mg

Buspirone: 2014-now 30mg x 2

         taper 2022  jan - may to 25 x 2 

 

Supplements: Omega-3, E, D3, Turmeric

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