Phoenixmama: cold turkey after 3 weeks on Celexa

[Phoenixmama]

Will do ❤️

[Armorall]

Here's my notes from SA regarding medical treatment:
Avoid Floxing antibiotics- cipro, fluoroquinolone, 

A partial list of fluoroquinolone medications

 

ciprofloxacin (Cipro),

gemifloxacin (Factive),

levofloxacin (Levaquin),

moxifloxacin (Avelox),

norfloxacin (Noroxin), and

ofloxacin (Floxin).

The two antibiotics  that seem old and ok- macrobid and amoxicillin

flagyl or clindamycin  were listed instead of macrobid

 

Use propofol whenever you can for surgery

 

Let them know you have autonomic instability due to withdrawal syndrome.

 

Carbocaine instead of novacaine. Novacaine contains epinephrine, carbocaine does not, but has to be administered often. 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by ChessieCat
Unbolded

[Phoenixmama]

Out of nowhere I’m having a bad wave , fear, doom , dp/dr racing thoughts feeling like a bad mom for no reason when I’m a very good mom… my sister decided to take my daughter to the zoo and my feelings were I’m a bad mom that’s why she wants to take her out 😖 but I know that’s not true… ugh where did this craziness come from all the sudden 🥺

[Phoenixmama]

@Armorall thank you so very much I’m going to save this 

[Phoenixmama]

Symptoms that came in today along with the sore throat , earache 

 

head ache 

dr/dp

fear

doom

guilt

feeling off 

racing thoughts 

 

the headache is getting stronger and stronger and my health anxiety is kicking in…. I gotta go into work tomorrow no more sick time 🥺 

[Ktven48]

So sorry you’re feeling like this. I feel like a bad mom often while going through this withdrawal. I have to remind myself that my son will not hold this against me and getting healthy so I can continue being his mom is the most important thing 

[Phoenixmama]

@Ktven48 ❤️❤️❤️❤️💪🏻

[Phoenixmama]

It hurts so bad to swallow right side throat and ear pain and now headache are severe , feels like I have strep and an ear infection along with head pain and now eye pain , only one the right side… doctors can’t find nothing wrong 

[Phoenixmama]

yesterday around 12pm my earache lessoned and throughout the rest of the day it became better , today its barely there 🙂

[Rosetta]

Good.  I’m glad you feel better.  There may have been some reason for this, some sort of sensitivity, but you may never know what it was.

[Phoenixmama]

Today is my 8th month in withdraw..... I'm very proud of myself and very grateful for this site and the people that have picked me up every time i got thrown down by a big hellish wave ❤️ @Armorall @Rosetta @Paxil3days @KenA you 4 have been my backbones and i owe you more than words... Me and my Little Girl are truly thankful for your support 🙏

[Paxil3days]

@Phoenixmama you are doing great thank you for helping me too and everyone on this site I am still working through my WD but feeling so much better than where I was.

[KenA]

@PhoenixmamaYou are doing amazing!! 8 months is a huge accomplishment!! Keep going until you reach the finish line!!

[ChessieCat]

6 hours ago, Phoenixmama said:

I'm very proud of myself and very grateful for this site and the people that have picked me up every time i got thrown down by a big hellish wave

 

Yes it is good that we have support from other members who understand what we are going through.

 

However, there may come a time when there may not be support from other members, possibly because they are not online and you might be desperate, or they might have moved on with their own lives.  For whatever reason I think it is a good idea to start learning now how to help yourself so that if/when you hit another rough spot (and this can happen for non-WD issues too), you have some non drug coping tools to help you get through it.

 

With regards to WD issues, this could be as simple as going through your topic whilst you are feeling reasonable and copying and pasting the supportive posts into a word document and maybe even printing them off and have them somewhere that they are easily accessible.  That way you will have some "immediate" support without relying on other members.

[KenA]

On 10/19/2021 at 2:25 PM, Armorall said:

Here's my notes from SA regarding medical treatment:
Avoid Floxing antibiotics- cipro, fluoroquinolone, 

A partial list of fluoroquinolone medications

 

ciprofloxacin (Cipro),

gemifloxacin (Factive),

levofloxacin (Levaquin),

moxifloxacin (Avelox),

norfloxacin (Noroxin), and

ofloxacin (Floxin).

The two antibiotics  that seem old and ok- macrobid and amoxicillin

flagyl or clindamycin  were listed instead of macrobid

 

Use propofol whenever you can for surgery

 

Let them know you have autonomic instability due to withdrawal syndrome.

 

Carbocaine instead of novacaine. Novacaine contains epinephrine, carbocaine does not, but has to be administered often. 

 

Thank you for posting this!! I was able to use this today with my doctor to settle on an antibiotic for an intestinal infection!! Life saving info

 

[Rosetta]

Congrats on 8 months, one week!  

[Phoenixmama]

@Rosetta if you ever need my help with getting your home organized how you want it , I’m willing to fly out to where you are , I live in the bay area so it’s only an hour flight , I’m well enough to do that ,just let me know 💫☀️ 💜

[Phoenixmama]

@KenA I’m so happy she put that there too 💜 I feel safe with it lol if that makes any sense 😅

[Phoenixmama]

For about a month my hair has been shedding / falling out more than usual and I was starting to panic but while on YouTube found out many many people that had covid has had the same thing happen to them…. 

[Colonial]

On 10/28/2021 at 5:53 PM, ChessieCat said:

going through your topic whilst you are feeling reasonable and copying and pasting the supportive posts into a word document and maybe even printing them off and have them somewhere that they are easily accessible. 

 

This is excellent advice for ALL of us for numerous reasons. I only found the answer to: "Is this serious problem WD or Covid accidentally by going through posts from 5 years ago.

 

As we all get older and wiser in Our journey, going back and re reading posts and advice from other members will give us different "Insights" then what we profited from in the past.

 

I suggest copy-pasting important parts and then printing them out.  I think people have to realize as things progress into winter and 2022, internet and electricity may not be available for certain areas for periods of time as health mandates come and go and people change professions, etc.

 

It would behoove everyone to prepare to be more self sufficient in all areas of their life going forward.

I stopped getting notifications for your posts, glad to see your doing fairly well!

Have a great weekend!

 

 

[Phoenixmama]

Hi @Colonial hope all is well 💜 I’m not fully healed , I’m still riding the waves and basking in the windows , I often go back and read your hilarious stuff you posted on my tread lol makes me laugh and smile 🤣😂🙃🙃🙃

[Phoenixmama]

ok so i know im late but I JUST DISCOVERD BAYLISSA.COM and im so happy i did , and at a perfect time in my wd too...... 

[Armorall]

Grrrl, I thought I asked you about her before...I'm glad you found her. I think I have her book somewhere, I can mail it to you if I find it. 

[Phoenixmama]

@Armorall hiiiii I just bought one book on eBay , it’s recovery and renewal , I wanted the with hope in my heart but it was too expensive for me two get both , which one do you have ? And omg I’m excited about finding baylissa, you did mention to me about her but at the time I wasn’t ready to find her , wd is weird , now I’m ready !!! And I have a different view about what I’m going through and more confidence, now just gotta work more on the acceptance ❤️

[Phoenixmama]

Before wd I use to play music in my room all the time , then in wd I couldn’t for some reason , today out of nowhere I’m playing music and it’s not bothering me one bit , any progress is progress and I feel blessed just to have this back , 🌞☀️💫🌹

[ChessieCat]

That's good to hear.

 

I had a similar thing happen with laughing.  I used to think something was funny but I didn't have the energy to really laugh, externalise it.  Then there came a time when I found myself laughing properly.

[Armorall]

@Phoenixmama you sound great!! And I'm so glad you started playing music. Yes, unfortunately the book I had is called Recovery and Renewal. I've had some great coaching sessions with Baylissa and I used to subscribe to her  group online, also went in her video chat rooms (I don't necessarily recommend that part), but she is great. I'm glad you are finding inspiration with her. I used to read the success stories at the end of the book constantly when I was trying to avoid screen light at night. *Hugs*

[Phoenixmama]

(((((((((((((((((((( 9 months out since my last celexa pill ))))))))))))))))))))

[Phoenixmama]

so my first wave in my 9th month of wd is rather tough , different then the past others or maybe some symptoms the same as in the beginning of wd , its very frustrating and hard to feel like your back at the beginning or that i will always be stuck like this

 

jittery inside my body (not always but more then the previous months )

always thinking about death (not just me but everyone) 

brain pain in different places all day for 5 days (which is setting off my health anxiety) 

scared to plan anything 

gut feelings that im going to die and leave my youngest daughter before she can fen for her shelf 

feeling i will be stuck like this forever 

intrusive thoughts about anything and everything 

also i feel really high sensitive ( very jumpy and my nerves are easy to rattle )

nausea

[deg1979]

I’m so sorry! I can’t say I know exactly how that feels, because I’m just three months out, but I get that frustration, too. It can be scary to feel like we’re back at the start and haven’t made any progress! I’m having a good week, but a couple weeks ago I felt just like that. I thought good gravy how can it be this bad right now?

 

Over Thanksgiving I had a very close friend visit. I went to visit her in the first few weeks after my adverse reaction. She said I have made tremendous progress. I was surprised, because I was very stuck in this mindset that “I can’t believe I’m still HERE,” as in struggling with these withdrawal symptoms. 
 

I also have many of the symptoms you describe, and I understand how discouraging and downright scary they are. I love that you mentioned a preoccupation with death, because I have that for sure and have never heard anyone else mention it. And just the thought of death also sends a shockwave through my traumatized nervous system, so it’s like a double whammy! I scanned your symptoms list, and these are all part of my symptoms, too. How old is your youngest? (Mine is 5.)

 

I just wanted to say I hear you, I feel you, and I know exactly what you mean. I know that can be a comfort to us sometimes. Don’t forget to allow your brain to think its intrusive thoughts, then calmly acknowledge them as intrusive thoughts and allow them to float away. You know how, when you meditate, you label thoughts and feelings and then calmly let them go? Don’t get worked up and discouraged when they happen (easier said that done, I know—mine are usually accompanied by full body paresthesia sensations). Just say yes, I hear you, thought, I accept that you are a symptom of my brain trying to heal, and I am going to let you go peacefully go now. You don’t want to battle the intrusive thoughts. Just let them float away. Or you float away from them; whichever works best for you.

 

Remember time will take them away. Time will take all of this away. I truly believe that, though I feel the same fear that it won’t when I am in a wave. Who knows, maybe this will be your last wave, but most likely not, if we look at other members on this site. I think they would say 9 months is still early days. Take a look back at your progress. You have been through so much! This, too, will pass.

[Phoenixmama]

@deg1979 my little girl is 5 also she's my last child out of four the others are grown 26 going to be 27 in feb 

21 , 15 going on 16 and my baby girl 5 , thank you for commenting on my post , it really means a lot to me... and lets me this is just a wave and im not dying of some surprise illness....❤️

[deg1979]

@Phoenixmama, oh my gosh, I know! I am getting to “used” to strange symptoms and pains and reactions that if I actually develop real ones, I’ll never know!

 

My kids are 20, 15, 12, 11, and 5. I gave birth to four; the 12 yr old is my niece on my husband’s side whom we adopted. 
 

One thing that also helps me is to remember all the things I have lived through and survived. I mean, I’m sure the two of us could tell some stories about what life has handed us. Remember THAT is who you are. The survivor. You are suffering from an adverse reaction. A “silent,” invisible one, because of our current psychiatric medical community. Doesn’t mean it’s not real. As if it didn’t @$%! with our brains enough already!

[Paxil3days]

@Phoenixmama hey hope you are feeling better today, yea you and I have very similar timelines , there are some days now where I am like it’s over, then sadly it’s not , it’s still haunting to think about what happened to all of us, but I find looking how much progress we made and that brings hope for a better tomorrow. One day free from all this. Hope all is well hang in there , we all here rooting for each other.

[Phoenixmama]

Hi @Paxil3days good to hear from you , the wave let up yesterday around 5pm , and is creeping back in tonight but not as strong , the brain sensations are scary and the feeling out of it all the sudden terrifies me…. But over all I’m making it through , thanks for stopping by 

[Phoenixmama]

eye twitches.....

[Phoenixmama]

Ate a 4 oz cup of noosa  yogurt and my anxiety went through the roof for 8 hours , not sure if it was the sugar in it or the dairy