Matheus: Has someone been on two antidepressants at the same time?

[Matheus]

Heloo! Guys, i have i question, if you could answer i would be very grateful.

I counted the beads of my effexor capsules, and they all seen to have 85 beads same sized. If i reduce 8 beads( aprrox 10%) of the capsules, is it too much? Is it stupid. I am thinking of reducing Effexor first, because is easyer: i can just count beads and dont have to deal with weighing or titrating for now

[Nanda]

Matheus, vc está estabilizado, ainda tem algum sintoma de abstinência? A ideia é diminuir 10% da dose que vc toma. Eu fiz um cálculo aqui e cada bolinha do seu effexxor é para ter cerca 0,44mg, então 8 continhas têm cerca de 3,52mg. Acredito que seja um bom início. Mas os moderadores do fórum devem dar uma resposta mais segura pra você. Fique bem! 

[Matheus]

Sim, manda. Poise, eu fiz o cálculo e vi q as oito bolinhas nao passava de 10%, mas eu ainda não estabilize. To longe de estabilizar. Ainda sinto muita tontura. Eu sei q o ideal era esperar nao ter mais sintomas ou o mesmo possivel, mas eu tenho medo de nunca estabilizar ja q to tomando uma dosagem muito alta de paroxetina e ainda outro antidepressivo( o effexor). Enfim... as vezes axo q o melhor seja esperar mesmo.

[Nanda]

Eu estou no mesmo barco, tentando estabilizar. Sinto pressão no peito, as vezes parece que tem um bolo de ar na minha garganta, sinto pressão na cabeça e zumbido no ouvido. Mas nós vamos estabilizar, o nosso corpo leva um tempo para se curar, mas a cura vem. Eu tenho as mesmas ansiedades que vc, vontade de afunilar o benzo que estou tomando mais rapidamente por medo. Mas aí nas minhas consultas com a terapeuta ela sempre ajuda a me acalmar e diz que vai passar e vai mesmo. 
 

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[Gridley]

3 hours ago, Matheus said:

If i reduce 8 beads( aprrox 10%) of the capsules, is it too much? Is it stupid. I am thinking of reducing Effexor first,

You can try 8 beads (approximately 10%) and see how you feel. 

 

 

[Matheus]

@Gridley, thought it was better to dont change anything, so ill stay put. Same dosage of the meds at the same time.

 

problem is i am afraid ill lose my Job, i am an intern, and i could kinda deal with it, because i was working from home. But now, since people is getting vaccinated ill no longe can work from home. 

 

i dont think im able to keep this job... in college im trying not to loose another semester, but it will be hard... dont know what to do. I feel like working and studying will delay or even prevent me from getting stable...

[Gridley]

On 7/6/2021 at 9:50 AM, Matheus said:

 

i dont think im able to keep this job... in college im trying not to loose another semester, but it will be hard... dont know what to do. I feel like working and studying will delay or even prevent me from getting stable...

I'm sorry this is happening to you, Matheus.  I know it is difficult.  

[Altostrata]

Brazil members, please post here 

 

[Matheus]

Ok @Altostrata!

[Matheus]

I nerd help! Can you actually die from WD? Cause i think im dying... I made the worst mister... i didnt take zolpiden for five days and im dying... I didnt know it was this strong... what do i do alto???

[Matheus]

Anyone? Please!!!

[Tott]

Hello, I had 2 at the same time. Sertraline and Brintellix. It’s usually easier to quit Brintellix compared to other SSRI and it was easy for me so don’t compare your meds to mine. 
I want to say that I’m pretty sure zolpidem is what they call a benzoanalog and it behaves the same way as benzo. Im on zopiclone and that’s a benzoanalog or what’s also called Z-drug. 
My first language isn’t English either, btw. 

[Tott]

Don’t quit your zolpidem. You need to taper it very slowly. 

[getofflex]

I would suggest that you reinstate the zolpiden right away. Since your nervous system has been thrown off by this I suggest you stay on your current med regime for a while to allow your system to recover from this.  As tott said it should be tapered slowly in the future.  
 

you probably won’t die from this even though it may feel that way. I think the reinstatement will help a lot.  

Edited July 12, 2021 by getofflex

[getofflex]

What was your reason for stopping the zolpidem? 

 

Zolpidem is a Z-drug used for insomnia.  It is a hypnotic. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolpidem

Edited July 12, 2021 by getofflex

[Matheus]

1 hour ago, Tott said:

Hello, I had 2 at the same time. Sertraline and Brintellix. It’s usually easier to quit Brintellix compared to other SSRI and it was easy for me so don’t compare your meds to mine. 
I want to say that I’m pretty sure zolpidem is what they call a benzoanalog and it behaves the same way as benzo. Im on zopiclone and that’s a benzoanalog or what’s also called Z-drug. 
My first language isn’t English either, btw. 

Ohh i see. Yeah, this episode made me see zolpiden is just a benzo in disguise. I Will reinstate it today and hope this symptons resolve right away. I thought i was going to faint in my workplace... I never passed out before in my Life.  

Thankyou so much for the help my friend!!!

[Matheus]

1 hour ago, Tott said:

Don’t quit your zolpidem. You need to taper it very slowly. 

Yes!!!  Leason learned. I Always learn the hard way...

[Matheus]

1 hour ago, getofflex said:

I would suggest that you reinstate the zolpiden right away. Since your nervous system has been thrown off by this I suggest you stay on your current med regime for a while to allow your system to recover from this.  As tott said it should be tapered slowly in the future.  
 

you probably won’t die from this even though it may feel that way. I think the reinstatement will help a lot.  

I Will do it tonight, @getofflex. I got a box from zolpiden thanks to a new friend of mine.

Yes, i was holding before this and i will still do it. I thought i could tough it out but i am learning no human being is Springer then these drugs...

 

Thankyou so much for your help, get!!

 

[Matheus]

1 hour ago, getofflex said:

What was your reason for stopping the zolpidem? 

 

Zolpidem is a Z-drug used for insomnia.  It is a hypnotic. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolpidem

I ran out of then,  but couldnt get a prescription in time. And i thought i could wait without it till my next appointment. Silly mistake

[getofflex]

I’m sorry you ran out of the drugs. Our brains become very dependent on them and then if we stop them even for just a day or two it can really cause trouble as you’ve already found out.  I’m glad you found some more and I hope that you have access to them in the future.

[Jonathan93]

Hello Matheus, how are you doing today?

[Matheus]

@Jonathan93, hii buddy, im doing fine, thanks for asking!!

Of course, it is a long journey to get out of these drugs, but i think ive come a long way. I no longer take zolpiden for sleep and ive manage to cut my paxil dosage by half.

Of course still a long way to go, but im happy im doing it.

 

How are u doing my friend?? Send me some news.

 

[Jonathan93]

Great for you! Sounds good 🙂 Im doing pretty good rn, I still have 3 drugs to taper but the doses are getting lower and lower. I just have to be patient.

[Matheus]

Hi guys. Im wondering if changing the generic manufacturer could be dangerous. Im feeling pretty bad.

I had to change the manufacturer from my generic meds because ive changed the pharmacy im buying.

[ChessieCat]

When changing manufacturer it is generally better to do a cross over.

 

Q:  Do you still have any of the old type left?

 

Q:  If no, are you able to get the old type?

 

If you have or can get the old type then my suggestion would be to change back to it, wait until you stabilise and either stick with the old type or do a cross over.

 

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Non-drug techniques to cope

 

It is important to listen to your body/symptoms and hold for longer if you are not stable.

 

Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist

 

Stability

 

WDnormal

 

And Brassmonkey talks more about it here:

 

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