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I would add that I understand even acetaminophen and ibuprofen are undermining to healing, Acetaminophen depletes glutathione, and ibuprofen is very hard on the GI tract.

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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I've dealt with chronic headaches for 13 yrs. I just started cranial sacral therapy from an osteopath in my area. I will update you guys on how I do.

Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant  30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently.  using zantac as needed.  Benzo is currently 0.10mg 

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There is a lot of pain in wd... I can find it difficult to tell what the cause is since I have all sorts of things it could be  but I know wd made all pain worse and I believe wd is painful in and of itself... this is a painful experience.  There are countless posts from me about pain epson salt baths hot cold packs deep relaxation via utube videos of the same title... light exercise when you can ...more if you can. 

 

All that said I have been going to physio and while I was there discovered a rack with support shirts... forever sceptical I asked a lot of questions and look at them over and over again... I can't do the bra type as I have pain in that area have not had a bra on more than 15 min in 3 years.  So the least expensive version was out.  These are expensive really expensive to me... 150 bucks for me that is a lot of money.  I decided to take a chance... and bought this one called alignmed posture shirt 

http://www.alignmed.com/shop/clearance/womens-symmetry-v-neck-zipped-shirt-cotton-lycra.html

 

They have all different sorts... all expensive. I thought having the zipper version would give me more freedom to adjust it and I could modify it if I was up to it and my sewing machine worked... so if it fails there is a future there... all things I had to say to talk myself into spending so much money on one shirt.

 

and this link will likely be removed cause we are not allowed to put up products I don't think... I don't know that this is a specific thing or if all such products would work just as well this just happens to be the one my physio office had... the only thing of its sort I have ever seen but I don't get out much there may be millions of such things.  

 

My big problem now it takes a long time to dry when I wash it and I don't want to take it off.... I know. 

 

Thing is I have trouble sleeping a lot of nights because of pain and this is not what the shirt is meant for... it is meant to wear awake I think my physio person may not even know I bought and does not know I sleep in it.. I should ask him... I forget when I am in there. 

 

I read some about it since I got it and am looking to buy another one cheaper if I can find one... I read some products like this can make your posture worse if you wear them too much... I did not know any of this was in pain put it on it helped kept it on... 

 

Not being much of a conformist these days I don't really care much about what this or that person has to say... if something helps it helps if it doesn't to the garbage can with it... 

 

So if you have neck back shoulder pain too many f.... head aches a posture shirt may help you... I am not attached to this one there may be many kinds that help. 

 

I do feel like things sprawl when I take it off and don't like it... my idea is to be more active with it on... we will see. 

 

Thttp://www.posturebraceguide.com/#posture-brace-comparison-charthereis a guy who does reviews but who knows you can find him here

 

I feel like Mikey in the old life cereal commercial he won't like it he hates everything... as I don't like much ... generally take a hard line on what helps me... so few things do.  I may well change my mind on this too as it has been only a short time...I will keep you posted. 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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i have back pain and discover that in future, if worse pain, there exist elastic to help, i new "corset" for back pain, but this you have to be two to put it strong

150 bucks (150 canadian $) seem to be 100 french euros, is of course much money, and you need two, to wash one, if it does not function well, it is much money

with 100 euros, you can buy a woman winter jacket in France instead a shirt, but the shirt is special

 

thanks for the idea

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12 years paxil - cold turkey 1,5 month - switch celexa 1 year taper; total 13 years on brain meds 

67 years old - 9 years  med free

 

in protracted withdrawal

rigidity standing and walking, dryness gougerot-szoegren, sleep deteriorate,

function as have a lack of nerves, improving have been very little 

 

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I could get a coat here less than this shirt not such a good coat but a winter coat for sure.  I was not happy to spend that money Stan not in the least... I kept thinking about it.  A lot and looking at it and thinking and looking. ;)

I have breast pain it keeps me up at night is it shoulder back neck and breast the rest I seem to be able to support with towels pillows my bed is a mass of different shape and type of pillows heating apparatus this and that with in arms reach menthol rubs on and on... it has been like this for years.  The last car accident and the broken rib made it all worse I got even more pillows... it has been 3 years since that accident I had pain before it... 

I just made a post about brain remodeling in the states ... think it was that one that says our brain can pull our spine out of whack and cause pain ...dx as fibro... whatever... I have heard it all... I just wanted something that might help. 

 

I put that zipper top on and did not take it off ... I slept in it it held my boob I had a decent sleep but each day wearing it I felt more improvement... I hate to wash it... it could be I have just found a really good therapist again ... but truth told my boob was still painful after he worked on me... I was up nights trying to hold it in a position that would not hurt... that plus it has helped my back shoulder and neck it goes down under the butt to support the entire back.  

 

I have been studying it a few times to try and figure out how to make my own... at this rate it will be wore out in no time. 

 

It may be that it is such a wonder to me only because of the accident issues ...or because I have physio that is helpful just now... 

 

But knowing how very painful wd is I thought if there is a chance this shirt could help somebody else well I just threw it out there.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I have a back massager too... xmass present one year it was about the same amount as the coat.  Maybe I am luckier than I feel... if you can get a good physio therpist that is good too...but hard to find. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Has anyone had frequent/easy muscle sprains and injuries while on SSRIs?  If so, what type of med, and what type of injuries?  I was in a bad car accident eight years ago.  While trying to rehabilitate, I'd constantly re-injure myself.  I thought that after years, I was finally heading toward recovery.  I was walking a few miles every few days.  I then tore a muscle.  While convalescing, I've experienced other weakness/sprains/strains.  My MD thinks that there's something wrong with my body beyond the injuries.  I've had all basic metabolic tests, and have been tested for lyme.  The side effects for prozac include muscle weakness/stiffness.  Has anyone had experience with this sort of thing?  Thanks.

 

 

Note:  I have a thread created regarding my progress.  If mods want to merge, that's ok.  However, I'd rather have it as a different post since this topic is quite a bit different than the other.  

various SSRI for years

 

20 mg Lyrica 2010

30 mg to 0 mg Prozac 2012

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 2012

Drop to 19 mg Prozac 2013

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 1 month later (2013)

Gradual decrease of Prozac dosage starting in late summer of 2015, currently at 11.2 mg/day

 

use of vitamin D3, fish oil, and magnesium at various times

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Update:  I did not see a feature that allows editing of a post.  If you do a search of "rhabdomyolysis", which is a massive breakdown of muscle tissue and "SSRI" several hits come up.  

various SSRI for years

 

20 mg Lyrica 2010

30 mg to 0 mg Prozac 2012

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 2012

Drop to 19 mg Prozac 2013

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 1 month later (2013)

Gradual decrease of Prozac dosage starting in late summer of 2015, currently at 11.2 mg/day

 

use of vitamin D3, fish oil, and magnesium at various times

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I am on paxil and have experienced many severe muscle spasms, tearing, cramps and sprains very easily.

1995-2007      20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  Years of up and down doses

2008                Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!) CT (oh dear!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg;    2015 2.5% taper 4.4 - 4.0mg

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3; Oct 3; Dec 2.9;

2018                2.5% taper. Jan 2.8; Mar 2.7; Mar: 2.75; Jun 2.7; Aug 2.6; Oct 2.5; Nov 2.4; Dec 2.3

2019                Jan 2.2; Feb 2.1;

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I am in pain...it has been really long now and I feel sometimes I cannot cope any longer. I dont understand this pain...or, I do: I hear it is WD and I want to believe it is WD and damage from many years of being on AD and other meds....But when it hits I am in agony...Recently this has been a stabbing, throbbing pain in my groin, it actually seems to be coming from my back sometimes, as if somebody hit me with a knife and left it there...and it is throbbing...especially when I sit down...

For over one year I had sciatica type of pain, but this one is much worse...My foot is still painful when walking, but I am somehow used to this, change my shoes to walking boots that protect me feet better...

But this stabbing/pulsating/throbbing brings anxiety that "something must be wrong in that area of my body"...I went to see GP yesterday, she said she cannot find any explanation, sends me for USG...

Another doctor insists on colonoscopy, as I aslo have very low iron (to him it means I am bleeding internally)...So when he mentioned a "possible cancer" I keep thinking that maybe this pain = cancer...

 

I have problem with believing that it is "just WD" and I am looking for the "illness" explanations...

If I was able to say "this is WD" this would be easier...I hope...

But, I dont believe, every time I get "stabbed" I get kind of doubtful that this is "only WD", "just" nerves, etc.

 

It is better when I walk or lie down...although this is not a rule, as I had it last night...

 

I did have a severed pain when stopped Effexor...

 

It is a mistery, but because I am "in it", I have problem with detaching myself...each "stabb" means "I may be termibally ill", as "I would not be in such pain... and for so long..."

 

How to get myself to believe that this is WD???

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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I wrote a post when I was dealing with pain of the sort you are talking about and there is a bloody knife illustrating it. It WAS withdrawal...all those awful pains. Yes.

 

See: It gets better: Dyesthesias — abnormal pain from psych drug withdrawal  

https://beyondmeds.com/2014/10/20/it-gets-better-4/ the photo and description is in that post. 

 

I hope that might help you get through this very very difficult time. Hang in there. 

Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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from a recent post...I still practice this...it started in tiny, tiny baby steps...

 

"First piece of info I ran with when I found myself non-verbal and bedridden and in more pain than I thought was possible was from a friend who said, “be curious about your experience.” Being hopeful in the heinously difficult condition I found myself in was actually impossible…being curious was not. Now you might say that surrender *and* curiosity is the foundation of my practice… curiosity, really, is mindfulness."

Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

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withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Thanks. I read the post. It helps when I am in a more logial mind set. When I am in pain I cannot think rationally...

 

Today I had it when I was walking...just one point, this time in my back low down the lumbar part, as if the stabbing was from behind and was still throbbing in front...It is too low down for any organs...it is alsmost in the place where is the leg joint...I cannot even describe it properly...

 

I want to try gentle exercices today...

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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Yeah, my therapist says "be suspicious", as this is not what it seems to be...

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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I did exercice for 30 minutes. I have a DVD i used to use when I had post-effexor pain...As I managed to overcome it with exercices and physio- this DVD sends a message to my brain- that it is possible to get better...

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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I just read an article on a link between iron deficiency and pain. I have been taking, successfully Liquid Ionic Iron. I feel I have more energy, so I hope it will also help with my pains.

http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/low_iron_can_cause_chronic_pain/

http://www.wellnessresources.com/studies/iron_deficiency_as_a_cause_of_chronic_pain/

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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That's interesting what you mention about iron deficiency.  About 1 week ago I run out of iron tablets which I have been taking for a couple of years and in the last few days I have been experiencing lots of fairly strong and various pains.  It will be interesting to see if they abate once I take them again.

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Since taking iron supplement + changing diet my hands are better...I also have better energy...

 

The pain in my groin and back was so bad yesterday. It followed pain free few hours in the morning- I felt so good. And then sharp, throbbing pain was back...

I managed to get another GP appointment; she suggested it could related to kidney stones. She wants this to be investigated, which will take time. Meanwhile, she prescribed stronger painkillers. I feel a bit like failing when taking them- getting back to medicating rather than dealing with it. The painkillers just mask the problem, and the pain is back...throbbing again...

Doctor said to take them four times a day...I resist, but maybe this is what I have to do? I have side effects, mostly drowsiness, faster heart rate, sleeping worse...

I was surprised as she asked me to call her on Tuesday to tell her how I am...nice feeling...that she cares more than i think...

 

It seems that buscopan is helping in some way. It works by relaxing the muscle...I also have paracetamol with codeine...not sure about this, but it does stop the pain...(I used to be addicted to codeine, so I need to be careful)...

- 12.03.2021- doxepin- 50mg

- 6.11.2020- 75mg

- 16.10.2020- 100mg

- 30.09.2020- doxepin- 125mg

- May 2020, omeprazole 40mg switched to esomeprazole 20mg

- 2012 re-started Doxepin 75mg, evening. Increased to 150mg

- 2012, Atenolol 25mg, twice a day

- 2016, Low dose of HRT in evening, Sandrena and Utrogestan 

- Long term of Nasal spray Otrivine

- 2012, PPI Omeprazole 40mg-evening

24.10.2014- Started ESCITALOPRAM-first 5mg and then 10mg; due to the adverse symptoms reduced on 5.01.2015- Escitalopram- 2.5mg 22.07.2016- re-started reduction by 1% at a time. Completed tappering on  19.03.2020 😇

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On 9/1/2012 at 2:44 PM, Altostrata said:

I've found a roller helped my back and shoulder muscle pain. I also used to lie on it lengthwise (on my spine) and rock a little side to side to give my spine a massage, this felt good, too.

I also lie on mine lengthwise to do a kind of self-massage between the shoulder blades.  Something else I picked up about pain and stretching in general is that, in our modern society which demands so much sitting and hunching over a keyboard, the muscles on the front side of the body become shortened while the muscles of the back (upper back especially) are constantly being stretched.  The resulting pain manifests in the back but an important part of the 'cure' is to stretch the muscles of your chest.  Combining yoga and pilates I lie lengthwise on my foam roller and let my arms lie on the floor to stretch the pectoral muscles.    

1994  Venlafaxine XR 300mg, 2003 tapered, 2004 off briefly back to 37.5 then 75mg, held, June 2019 up to  150mg, Aug.12 tapered down to 112.5mgs, Oct. 21, 2019 96mg;  Dec. 8, 2019  90mg, Jan. 8 2020 81mg, Feb. 4, 75mg;

2003/2004? Diazepam 10mg/bedtime

2013 Lyrica 300mg to 25mg; April 6, 2020 17mg; April 28, <5mg; May 7, 2020 Lyrica 0 mg!

2013 Tramadol 50mg tablets, 200mg/day divided

2005? Trazodone 50mg bedtime, Feb. 12, 2020 40mg, March 7, 25mg; Oct 1 20mg

2009? Zolpidem 5mg at bedtime. Nov. 9, 2019 Zolpidem 0 mg! 

1990? Omeprazole 20mg in morning.

2010? Levothyroxine 75mcg morning

2011? Liothyronine 5mcg morning

1999? Buspirone 30mg twice a day  August 2019 15mg once a day,  Oct.21, 2019 2.5mg evening  Oct. 25, 2019 Buspirone 0 mg!

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On 6/11/2012 at 1:19 AM, GiaK said:

Original post: http://beyondmeds.com/2012/06/11/cope-pain/

for photo illustrations you will need to go to the original link as I couldn't get them in this post.

 

Coping with and healing body pain of withdrawal & withdrawal syndromes

 

Getting well takes effort and time and listening to the body for most of us. These are some of the things I do to help with pain that is part of withdrawal syndromes for many people.

 

I’ve collected several things I do to cope with the pain I experience as a result of long-term psychotropic drug use and the subsequent withdrawal pain I find myself in. Many people suffer from these pains upon withdrawal from many different psychiatric drugs and psychiatric drug classes so I thought I’d share how I cope. In most cases with most individuals the pain remits in time but that can take up to a few years in the worst case scenarios so we do need to have coping strategies in place while the time passes.

 

This is by no means an exhaustive list of what might be done to cope with pain. Some of this pain is sometimes talked about as fibromyalgia. I don’t personally find that diagnosis helpful as it’s a garbage pail term, but the pain is very real.

 

For additional discussion about the varieties of pain some of us with withdrawal syndromes experience see here: Dyesthesias: abnormal pain from psych drug withdrawal (includes info about several sorts of withdrawal pains too). These are all caused by the nervous system having been harmed by the neurotoxic drugs.

 

I do yoga almost daily…generally just for about 10 minutes max as that is all I can manage. On good days I may do that twice a day. There remain days when I can’t do anything at all but those days are becoming fewer and yoga really helps almost always. See: Do Yoga at Home

 

Yoga is also one of the primary ways I practice mindfulness and embodiment. It’s been, perhaps, my most important practice for healing all around. Rehabilitation too, from having been bedridden!

 

I’m wanting to share a posture that’s really helped with pain/neuropathy and paresthesia etc. It’s very easy. It does not work in a structural sense. It’s energetic somehow, though I’m not an expert at yoga so I don’t know how it works. The thing is it temporarily, on good days, relieves pain in my whole body. Even in my arms. It’s like there is an energy shift of some sort while I do it and for a while afterwards. On a good day it’s a long while. It can also help relieve the physiological and iatrogenic terror that is associated with benzo withdrawal.

 

Generally before this I do some brief standing postures that also stretch my body. If you are unfamiliar with yoga and need ideas you can google yoga postures and also check on youtube. And look here too. For simple beginner postures it’s a great way to start. In the long run a serious practice requires a teacher, but having taken yoga off and on for many years, right now what the computer offers us is plenty since many of us while sick can’t do altogether too much.

 

The one that seems to offer relief at the end is simple and very powerful…

 

legs against the wall: the below links are to photos of this posture...I don't know how to put a photo here...or you can go to the original post: http://beyondmeds.com/2012/06/11/cope-pain/

 

photos: http://beyondmeds.com/2011/02/20/copingpain/legsagainstwall/ AND http://beyondmeds.com/2011/02/20/copingpain/legwall/

 

Or I also have my butt a few inches from the wall. Feel free to make any adjustments your body finds necessary. Absolute form isn’t terribly important when it comes to finding some relief from the pain I’ve found. On some days doing this can alter the course of the day for the better. It’s really quite wonderful when it works that way.

 

My longest and most frequently used strategy for combatting the daily pain from the iatrogenic pain of withdrawal are frequent epsom salt baths.I did a post on how I do that here. I actually sometimes put even more epsom salts in the water and have also found that a highly concentrated foot bath is very good for bedtime relaxation.

 

I also take Tart Cherry Extractas a supplement. I did a post on it here. Anti inflammatory foods and diet can potentially help any and all pain (nothing is a cure-all) and neither has my heavy anti inflammatory diet been a cure-all for me but it does minimize pain. I’ve since also added Turmeric supplements. I like this one that has something added to aid absorption: Super Bio-curcumin.

 

Identifying and eliminating food intolerances have been very important too. Food the body doesn’t like can add to inflammation. This may include foods that are generally considered healthy. (I can’t eat nightshade vegetables, for example). Finding and eliminating these foods has required (and continues to require) meticulous attention to diet and how foods effect my body. I continue to learn all the time.

 

It’s possible to heal many food intolerances and once again be able to eat foods that offend but if one doesn’t eliminate them first it’s less likely. It can take years to clear things up. I am in process with this. See: Nutrition and Gut Health

 

These suggestions are not exhaustive. People find many things to help. Also none of these things cure the pain but all of them can help one cope with an ongoing chronic situation. Slowing my situation has become less acute, but I still have significant issues. I often say, I’ve gotten much much better, but I am still very very sick. I don’t know how else to convey what this journey is like to those who’ve not passed through similar terrain!

 

Hope this helps!

 

For a toolbox of more extensive coping strategies for withdrawal issues in general see here: Tool box for coping with psychiatric drug withdrawal syndromes (and some chronic pain and/or illness too)

 

I found this book, Freedom from Pain: Discover Your Body’s Power to Overcome Physical Pain helpful as well to deal with chronic pain issues. I have a post with an interview with the author here: Trauma is often held in the body and experienced as chronic pain

 

original post: http://beyondmeds.com/2012/06/11/cope-pain/

My yoga instructor called it "legs-up-the-wall" but it was one of my favorite poses.  My instructor told me that it is a very powerful pose.  

1994  Venlafaxine XR 300mg, 2003 tapered, 2004 off briefly back to 37.5 then 75mg, held, June 2019 up to  150mg, Aug.12 tapered down to 112.5mgs, Oct. 21, 2019 96mg;  Dec. 8, 2019  90mg, Jan. 8 2020 81mg, Feb. 4, 75mg;

2003/2004? Diazepam 10mg/bedtime

2013 Lyrica 300mg to 25mg; April 6, 2020 17mg; April 28, <5mg; May 7, 2020 Lyrica 0 mg!

2013 Tramadol 50mg tablets, 200mg/day divided

2005? Trazodone 50mg bedtime, Feb. 12, 2020 40mg, March 7, 25mg; Oct 1 20mg

2009? Zolpidem 5mg at bedtime. Nov. 9, 2019 Zolpidem 0 mg! 

1990? Omeprazole 20mg in morning.

2010? Levothyroxine 75mcg morning

2011? Liothyronine 5mcg morning

1999? Buspirone 30mg twice a day  August 2019 15mg once a day,  Oct.21, 2019 2.5mg evening  Oct. 25, 2019 Buspirone 0 mg!

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 Help I'm in pain all the time

 

I tried to click on the links but nothing works

Finasteride 1mg daily 2005 - April (approx) 2016 did have break from them.

Dex amphetamine 30mg Daily taken irregularly March 2012 - March 2015

Lexapro April 2016 only took 1 tablet unsure what mg ended up in emergency with thoughts of self harm discharged from hospital was given 20mg Valium and 30mg mirtazapine

30mg April 2016 - current been tapering from 30mg, 15mg May 2016, 7.5mg July 2016,Aug 2016 3.75mg Cold turkey Sept 2016 reinstated after 12dayslater 3.75mg Feb 2017 3.4mg March 2017 3.2mg April 2017 3mg

June 25, 2017 2.8mg August 14th 2017, 2.7mg, Sept 18, 2017 2.6mg Oct 26 up-dose 2.65mg due to 5 weeks of severe withdrawal 2.6mg 23rd Nov 2017 30th 2.5mg Nov 2017 2.4mg  19th Dec 2017  then forced 2.45mg up-dose 2.45mg due to severe withdrawals 2nd Jan 2018 up-dose  2.5mg 4th Jan 2018 withdrawals were too severe up-dose 2.55mg 23 Jan 2018  continued severe withdrawals near 3 weeks, 14th March 2018 2.5mg, 24th June 2018 2.45mg, 2.4mg 25th July 2018, 2.35mg 7th August 2018, 2.3mg 22nd October 2018, 2.25mg, 2.2mg 6th Dec 2018, 2.1mg 12 January 2019, 2mg 23rd Jan 2019, 1.95mg 12 March 2019, 1.9mg 12th March 2019, 1.85mg 22 June 2019, 1.8mg 19th July 2019, 1.75mg 16 Sep 2019, 1.7mg 4 October 2019, 1.75mg 5 October - severe withdrawals, need to complete essays. 1.7mg 11th November 2019, 1.65mg 2019 Had horrific nightmare up-dose  to 1.7mg on 18th December 2019, 24th December 2019 1.65mg, 17th January 2020 1.6mg-long hold due to ongoing severe withdrawals, low blood pressure, what appears to be chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety. 15th May 2020 1.58mg, 3rd August 2020 1.56mg, 2nd September 2020 1.54mg, 28th September 2020 1.52mg experienced nightmare, along with severe withdrawals, air hunger & high anxiety, due to exams will temporarily up-dose on 30th September 2020 1.54mg

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4 hours ago, Starboy17 said:

 Help I'm in pain all the time

 

I tried to click on the links but nothing works

 

 

also here is the category link for pain https://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/?s=pain

 

there are lots more there.

 

if you run into links that don't work once you leave the first post which has been updated replace  http://beyondmeds.com/  with https://bipolarblast.wordpress.com in the URL...

Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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On 9/23/2019 at 11:04 AM, GiaK said:

Looks like a problem link. 😕

 

"Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to beyondmeds.com. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

2007 - 2008          Paxil and Klonopin

2008 - 2012           Mirtazapine following CT from Klonopin/Paxil.  

2012                       Unsuccessful taper of mirtazapine; reinstated.     

7/2013 - 1/2014   Successfully tapered mirtazapine from 7.5 mg to 0.00.

 

Sertraline (Zoloft) Taper  Aug 4, 2017 - July 18, 2021 - Current dose 0.00

Alprazolam (Xanax)  July 19, 2017 - Nov 15, 2021 0.25 mg.

Began 10% taper  Nov 16, 2021 - 0.25  Jan 11, 2022 - 0.203;  Feb 8 - 0.182;  Mar 7 - 0.165;  Apr 12 - 0.148; May 9 - 0.133; June 5 - 0.120; July 2 - 0.107  July 30 - 0.0975  Taper is 61% complete.

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Hi! 

 

I did a search here for "pain" and nothing came up. I have been tapering paxil for 2 months after being on it for over 20 years. I stared at 20 mg and have made 2 10% cuts. I know from having gotten off xanax that increased body pain is a big sx in benzo wd. I do have pain but it's complicated and for what reason is never clear. I have been off xanax for 15 months and before the paxil taper I was better than I have been in over 20 years. I had no side effects (that I am aware of) from paxil. I never should've started it and now I want off. My pain has been up for over a week. I can't find info here about the relationship between AD wd and increased pain. Some of mine is nerve pain, some bone pain. I have a pancreas issue that causes the body to no longer produce endorphins and I have had multiple ortho surgeries including spinal fusion from T2- L4 for scoliosis. So I have reasons to hurt but with LDN and a pemf mat I was SO good it was hard to believe. Until I started the paxil wd. I have had some pain on and off over the 2 months but this week has been the worse. It could be tied to sitting far too long last weekend. I am always trying to figure out why some sx rears its ugly head and I had sort of figured it was also the AD wd. Any input would be appreciated. 

2003 Methadone 80 mg day /   Morphine 15 mg 3xs day as needed
2008 Lyrica 25 mg 3-4 x day
Sept 2017 self detox off Methadone
April 2018 self detox off Lyrica
Feb. 2019 Xanax 1 mg 2x day as needed
8 months to taper from 4 months use! Jumped 1/20/20 !!!!!!! 
8/22/20 have weaned ambien over the last 6 months from 10 mg to 2.5 mg. Jumped 8/16/2020 

Was taking morphine 30 mg prn for last 2 years. Stopped 8/15/2020 

Started Paxil 20 mg 1995-ish for mild hormonal mood swings and supposedly to help hormonal migraines. Never talked about stopping. Had a horrific CT 2018. Reinstated after 4 months. 

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Thank you! I was surprised when I did a search that it said there was nothing. I'll go to that forum. I obviously need to become a better navigator of this site! 😑

2003 Methadone 80 mg day /   Morphine 15 mg 3xs day as needed
2008 Lyrica 25 mg 3-4 x day
Sept 2017 self detox off Methadone
April 2018 self detox off Lyrica
Feb. 2019 Xanax 1 mg 2x day as needed
8 months to taper from 4 months use! Jumped 1/20/20 !!!!!!! 
8/22/20 have weaned ambien over the last 6 months from 10 mg to 2.5 mg. Jumped 8/16/2020 

Was taking morphine 30 mg prn for last 2 years. Stopped 8/15/2020 

Started Paxil 20 mg 1995-ish for mild hormonal mood swings and supposedly to help hormonal migraines. Never talked about stopping. Had a horrific CT 2018. Reinstated after 4 months. 

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