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I was diagnosed with depression in 2002 and given amiram 20 I took it for one year then I stopped I returned to it in 2007 without any relief I until I diagnosed with bipolar2 in 2015 it helps and I get hypomania in 2020 and stopped all my medications rather quickly which were lithium 1000 mg sereqol 300mg and larogenr400mg and Prozac 40 mg I get akatisia after two month and I returned to psych who reinstate sereqol and raised it up to 400mg and Prozac 40 and larogene 100mg this was three weeks ago I still depressed but akatisia is gone I want to start a new taper is that possible

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2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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I need help to tapering

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Welcome, @sama

 

What is larogene?

 

Why are you taking 400mg Seroquel?

 

Please explain more about your depression. How does this feel?

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Lamical

the psychiatrist said because I am in a depressive bipolar episode 

i am depressed because I can’t function i am bed ridden I am hopless that I will get better even with medication better I think I am a little better

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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On 4/30/2021 at 5:33 AM, sama said:

I get hypomania in 2020 and stopped all my medications rather quickly which were lithium 1000 mg sereqol 300mg and larogenr400mg and Prozac 40 mg I get akatisia after two month and I returned to psych who reinstate sereqol and raised it up to 400mg and Prozac 40 and larogene 100mg this was three weeks ago

 

Before you got hypomania in 2020, did you skip or reduce any of your drugs?

 

It appears you got withdrawal syndrome, akathisia included, from quitting your drugs. While some symptoms have gone away with reinstatement of Seroquel, Prozac, and lamotrigine, it may take some time for your nervous system to settle down from withdrawal.

 

This is not necessarily a relapse, but if you agree with your psychiatrist, we can't do much to help you. We do not treat depressive bipolar episodes here, all we do is help people go off the drugs. How may we help you?

 

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yes i skip and reduce two of my drugs and i forget to add that i take diazepam 150 mg since the reinstatement

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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yes i skip and reduce two of my drugs and i forget to add that i take diazepam 150 mg since the reinstatement. i know it is not relapse and i do want to get well and taper

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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My spychiatrist want to refuse the diazepam dose by 25% is this extreme cut and I am taking it for only two months now and according to his plan I will continue to be medicated for the rest of my life

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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I mean reduce and I want to be medication free and I want to start tapering right please help me

 

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Hello l really need help .I started taking diazepam three month ago for the first time 15 mg a day and I started tapering 25 days ago by decreasing 3 mg every 2 weeks as adviced by my psychiatrist now I am taking 9 mg but in five days it should be six mg  is that too fast although  I take it for a short period also I am not tapering anything else with it I will start tapering seroquel after finishing diazepam

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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You are tapering way too fast. We suggest only 10% a month as a taper protocol.

 

Unfortunately dr’s don’t know how to taper these medications. Even though Diazepam has a very long 1/2 life you are probably feeling withdrawal symptoms.

 

If you can I would hold for a good long time before tapering any further. 
 

Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. This can show if your symptoms are adverse effects from one of your drugs.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, 

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

 

 

I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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How long to hold ?

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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I would hold for at least a month or so and see how your body is doing then.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, 

 Xanax 1mg three times a day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) three times a day to .003 grams three times a day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

 

 

I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Okay thanks

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Okay thanks

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Tommorow I ‘ll continue tapering diazepam I will reduce by 5% for the first two week and 10 % for the following two week my questions are can I start tapering others medications as well or just tapering one in a time which will took more than five years ?i am now taking 400 mg of seroquel my tablet are 300 mg rx so I have to split the tablet into three is that okay and we don’t have seroquel on other form in my country my psychiatrist suggestion is to take it quarter of the dose in the morning and the rest in the evening another problem is that we have Prozac in capsule form only 20 mg  and we don’t have gelatine capsules to make the wright dose I am thinking of taking one capsule a day and hold for a year or so starting from tomorrow. and do the same for seroquel dropping to 300 mg .

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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I really need answer to this question all the years of my illness I only had psychotherapy for one month and the Thearbist didn’t insisted for more and she work under the supervision of my  previous psychiatrist.I didn’t know why that happened I thought at that time I must be in need for medication only all that before I began to research and decided to stop believing in mental health system so now I am tapering and it will probably end in ten years or even more since I am polydruged do I need therapy during tapering because I think there are a lot of underlying issues in me it all came back  when I stopped my medication in the beginning of this year but now all are numbed again  and I have no one supporting me on my attempt and now my psychiatrist is my uncle all my family agreed to be against me it hurts me but they know I am tapering for good but no support my uncle agreed to wean me of two drugs but his tapering way is too fast and I saw the result of this previously so I am tapering slowly and he agreed on that so should I opt for therapy since now

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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What to do when you hit by depressive episode because of stressful event- one weak ago- during tapering I started doing multitapering more than two week ago I dropped from 400mg seroquel to 280 to 260 this week and from 50 mg of lamictal to 45 mg and continuing with diazepam tapering I reached 8.10 mg and I will hold all this for a month should I stop multi tapering and reinstate or wait ?

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Any suggestions I am all alone in here and I am very depressed 

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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Hello, @sama. What drugs are you taking now, at what times o'clock and dosages?

 

What drug did you change last? When did you do this?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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I take 3.10 mg liquid diazepam I did 10% taper on 25/8 the first two week by 5% and and 50 mg lamictal (I reinstated it after my last post when I went down to 45mg tapering by 10%.50 mg  is  the original dose)in around 11:30 am after I take breakfast .I take 40 mg Prozac after lunch (I didn’t make any change regarding this drug)I take at evening- I try to do it as early as possible but some time I forget and take it like 10 pm -5 mg diazepam tablet and 360 mg seroquel Rx-sadly I had to split 200 mg rx tablet - I started tapering it in 25/8 by 10% also.it is the one I changed lastly I didn’t reinstate it like lamictal because 400 mg is a lot and I hate it’s side effect.I am now feel much better than when I post lately .

2002 amiram for depression

2007-2015 amiram

2015-2020 seroquel 300 mg prozac 20 mg lamotrigine 400 mg it is now  bipolar 2

march 2020 i skipped prozac for two weeks and skipped 200 mg of lamotrigine the morning dose i get into hypomania   

September 2020 lithium was added 1000mg 

November 2020 i stopped lithium and prozac cold turkey because they run out of market

December 2020 i start tapering seroquel and lamictal 400mg and i take last dose in 23 of January

the sixth of April 2021 i reinstate seroquel 400 mg prozac 40 mg and lamotrigine 50 mg and diazepam 15 mg .24 august diazepam 9 mg 

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