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Hi all,

I am new to this website and I wanted to say a few words about what I am going through.

I was put on Nortriptyline 50 mg and Venlafaxine 37.5 mg for vestibular migraine. Actually first nortriptyline with no success for my vestibular migraine. Instead of weaning off at the time the DR kept me on both medication so finally I decided in 2020 that I wanted to get off the nortriptyline.

The first 10 mg was fine, then some restless legs symptoms but got through it till managing to get to 25 mg. Then hell. 

I found a pharmacy that custom made my doses to allow me to drop 1 mg at the time (no liquid version where I live). 

I am currently on 17 mg with horrible stomach issues. ( I dropped 2 mg last month).

I have no support from my neurologist so that is why I am here.

I will follow the advise of 10% per month (or less), just hoping that all this stomach issues will subside, it's so hard!!

 

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Jul 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg
Oct 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2018 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2019 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2020 Nortriptyline 25 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2021 Feb Nortriptyline 20 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

         Mar - April Nortriptyline 17 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

       June - April Nortriptyline 16 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

 

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Gridley
44 minutes ago, blueberry0 said:

I will follow the advise of 10% per month (or less), just hoping that all this stomach issues will subside, it's so hard!!

 

Welcome to SA, blueberry0.

 

It is better to taper by percentage (10% of current dose every four weeks) rather than a linear taper of 1%.  With a percentage taper, your reduction gets smaller and smaller as you go lower in dose, which is easier on your system.  With a straight 1mg taper,  your reduction gets larger and larger as you go lower, which is opposite of what you want.  This is especially important when you get to the low doses below 10mg.

 

Since you're having your doses compounded, there should be no problem is getting 10% doses.  To arrive at a 10% reduction, multiply your current dose by 0.9.  So your next dose would be 17mg X 0.9.

 

The reason we suggest an exponential taper (cutting the dose by smaller amounts as we taper) is because there is a high rate of receptor occupancy at low doses of the drug.  That is to say, even on low doses of the drug, it is still having a major effect on the brain.  Please see this link: 

 

 
Is there a reason why you chose to taper the Nortriptyline first rather than the Effexor?  When did the stomach issues start?  Did they stat when you added the Effexor?
 
We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of June 15: 10.5mgai.  Taper is  44% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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blueberry0

Hi Thank you for your reply.

The reason I am tapering the nortriptyline is because actually the venlafaxine help a lot with my symptoms and i am a little scared to stop it and get my symptoms back so it's not for now.

The stomach pain started last month. I also had them last year when I went from 25 to 20 (failed attempt).

Thank you for the advise on the 10% and get my dose non linear will definitely look if they would alter my compound :)

Jul 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg
Oct 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2018 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2019 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2020 Nortriptyline 25 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2021 Feb Nortriptyline 20 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

         Mar - April Nortriptyline 17 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

       June - April Nortriptyline 16 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

 

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blueberry0

oh gosh! after reading in the website I think I just realised that the cause of my dizziness (since 2016) is because i stopped a medication containing and SSRI

Jul 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg
Oct 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2018 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2019 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2020 Nortriptyline 25 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2021 Feb Nortriptyline 20 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

         Mar - April Nortriptyline 17 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

       June - April Nortriptyline 16 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

 

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blueberry0
Hello
I have been taking Effexor XR 37.5 and nortriptyline 50 mg (currently on 16 mg) since 2016 for vestibular migraine (wrong diagnose).
Anyway I have been tapering nortriptyline since January 2020 and having GI problems at low doses so tapering very slow.
 
My end goal is to taper both meds.
 
My question is: at this point is it better, due to the short half life of venlafaxine, to taper first effexor and then the remaining nortriptyline or shall I finish tapering the nortriptyline first?
Second question: is there a protocol to follow for tapering effexor ? I was thinking of counting beads but not all capsules have the same number of beads, how do you get around that?
 
thanks for your help

Jul 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg
Oct 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2018 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2019 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2020 Nortriptyline 25 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2021 Feb Nortriptyline 20 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

         Mar - April Nortriptyline 17 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

       June - April Nortriptyline 16 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

 

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Previous post moved to your intro topic to keep your history all in one place.  Please post questions and discussion about your situation in this one thread, to avoid confusion and duplication of efforts.  Thank you.  

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 '02 - 10 mg;  Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08

Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, calcium

suppl PM: magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, Estroven, melatonin 2.5 mg

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Hi all,

maybe someone can help. One week ago I had the covid jab and reacted quite badly to it. I now have myoclonus (spasm of the legs muscles) 

Could it be that it's something to do with the jab interacting with the antidepressants?


 

Jul 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg
Oct 2017 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2018 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2019 Nortriptyline 50 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2020 Nortriptyline 25 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg
2021 Feb Nortriptyline 20 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

         Mar - April Nortriptyline 17 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

       June - April Nortriptyline 16 mg + Venlafaxine XR 37.5 mg

 

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