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I started to taper off Prozac 20mg 5/2020.  I got down to 3mg 11/2020.  I became depressed. Under the care of my Doctor Psychiatrist, From 12/2020 to 5/2021 I have started and stopped 5 different meds and increase and decrease Lamictal.  My brain is a mess.  I have had every thing from Brain zapping, brain numbing, paranoia, headaches, insomnia, muscle weakness, unexplainable fear, intrusive thought that have turned into ocd, left side of my face and eye hurt on and off, unable think clearly, slow speech, anxiety, depression, thoughts of suicide, nausea, weight loss, I can't even name it all. 

On 5mg Lexapro 37.5mg lamictal, and 25mg of trazadone

 

Started Lexapro 4/3/2021 Slow titration,, my brain is very, very drug sensitive, 4/14  7.5mg. side effects so bad, and anger, anxiety through the roof, doctor encouraged my to go up 4/30  10mg. Could not take the side effects dropped 4/10  7.5mg.  Doctor said he does know if he can help me. Told me to stop Lexapro, and go on a med holiday .  4/16 Lexapro 5mg.  Holding,. don't know what to do?  Do I hold here for awhile.  Doctor is no help. He thinks I can stop Lexapro with in 2 weeks.  Since I dropped down lexapro 5mg and started L theanine and Magnesium glycinate, things are slightly better.

I found a new doctor but can not get in until the end of June.

Since I am so close to no drugs I would like to see if I can continue my goal of being drug free.  

 

Med history

1995? Prozac 20mg not help anxiety

? Paxil  Caused anger stop

Serzone  More depressed

1998 St Johns wart stop

1998 Prozac 20mg

1998 trazadone 50mg took for a few months stop

2000  lexapro  20mg.

2015 taper off Lexapro, fast taper a few month  crash

tried to reinstate  Lexapro  did not work

Tried Effexor, did not work stop

Oct 2015 Hospital 1 week  Seroquel xr 50mg   Viibryd 20mg.  Did not even get up to 20mg.  So drugged, I could not hardly work 30 minutes after taking so dizzy.  Stopped at home

12/2016 Abilify, couldn't tolerate stop

12/16 Wellbutrin  couldn't tolerate stop

12/16 Stopped Seroquel xr 50mg.  To nauseated and couldn't eat.  Heartburn Don't remember tapering

1/2016 Prozac 20mg.  slight improvement

5/2016 Lamictal 200mg. 

 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side effects Felt like brain sitting on eclectic fence 4 day tapper  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects to much,  arm and leg muscles became very week, nausea headaches 4/23/2021 panicked and stopped.  doc not return my call  Brain went crazy, paranoia ( should have learned, not to try it again) 

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 

 

Now:  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg 

.5 mg melatonin

 

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5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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Welcome to SA, Greatful.  We are a site for helping members taper off psychiatric drugs and deal with withdrawal from these drugs.

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly.  You can simply copy the information in your post starting with the last paragraph "5/20 through 11/20..."  Please add your original dose of Prozac.  Use this link:

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

The symptoms you describe in your first paragraph are typical psychiatric drug withdrawal symptoms, which result from going off a psychiatric drug too fast.  Your system is also destabilized by going on and off so many drugs. So the answer to the question posed in your title is "both."  I recommend that you make no further changes at this point, that you do not add any more drugs.  and that you hold where you are (no changes in drugs or dosages) for at least three months to allow your system to stabilize and recuperate.  I would not recommend that you stop Lexapro and go on a "drug holiday."  If you abruptly stop the Lexapro you put yourself at risk of suffering further withdrawal symptoms.  A person is subject to withdrawal symptoms, the length and severity of which can't be predicted, after being on an antidepressant for one month.

 

After 3 months, if you are feeling stable, you can begin to slowly taper the Lexapro while making no changes to the Lamictal or Trazodone.  We recommend tapering by no more than 10% of your current dose every 4 weeks.  

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

The following link is specifically about tapering Lexapro, including how to get the non-standard doses you'll need for your 10% Lexapro taper.  Lexapro comes in a prescription liquid, and this method is easy and accurate for a taper.  If you choose this method, let us know because you will need to gradually transition to the liquid from the tablet form.  Other methods described in the link include weighing tablets with a digital scale, making your own liquid and using a compounding pharmacy.  

 

Tips for tapering off escitalopram (Lexapro)

 

We recommend tapering only one drug at a time; otherwise, if problems arise, you won't know the cause.  Activating drugs (such as SSRI's like Lexapro) should be tapered first, leaving sedating drugs (such as Lamictal and Trazodone) to be tapered later.  This is to help preserve sleep.  

 

Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first?

 

So that you have a better understanding of what you're experiencing, here is some information on withdrawal and the healing process.

 

 

 

 

When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur.  

 

These explain the healing process really well.

 

 

 

We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system.  You're already on the magnesium, and glycinateia a good form.  

 

 

 

Add in the omega at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can complete your drug signature, ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Greatful

I'm okay with not making any med changes like you suggested.  My concern is all the different things going on.  I had such a hard time with the side effects going on the Lexapro. Most of these symptoms were present before Lexapro.  I started on Sat. morning, by Sun night I was so drugged my head was wobbling, I could hardly talk,  I was stoned  I was so out of it, anxiety, depression, brain numbing, zapping, sore spots on the brain.  all these feeling in the brain would move around,  sometimes on the top of the brain, than the back of brain, paranoia, feeling fear and not know why, the left side of my face numb and sore. Left eye hurts off and on. Like I said  I had most of this before Lexapro (what I guess was from all the other drugs) but was intensified when I started Lexapro.    Can the start of Lexapro and the withdrawal from the other ones cause all this.  I'm worried the Lexapro is still causing some of the problems.  I'm still depressed.  This last week it let up for a few days and I felt some hope.  Friday comes and I feel the depression and hopelessness come back in, and the waves of fear and panic like I'm drowning or being sucked under water, dizzy, numb brain which makes it hard to think.  When you say stabilize, is that waiting for all the symptoms clear up or lessen.  The depression is the hardest, the negative thought and feeing's.  Think about death.  Are these the symptom's of a wave that you guys talk about.

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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34 minutes ago, Greatful said:

Are these the symptom's of a wave that you guys talk about.

During the healing process, a wave is a period of worse symptoms followed by what we call a window, when you feel better, as described in the link about windows and waves in my initial response to you.  You're having ups and downs, so this could be classified as a wave.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Greatful

I forgot to put xanax in my list of drugs.  I take 1/2 of a .25mg every night with trazadone and melatonin.  I have been taking xanax daily since last summer when I started tapering Prozac.  I am very drug sensitive I usually can get by with 1/2  .25mg.  I was taking around 3 or 4 a day.  Since I started Magnesium glycinate and L theanine I have been able to drop down to just at night. (about a week now).   

I bought a scale to accurately get the right dosing everyday.  I have been braking them in half, my Trazadone  25mg,  Lamictal 37.5mg and xanax . ( not always even) I am hoping that this will help with my stabilization.   This withdrawal from all the different med in the last  5 months and  acclimating to the Lexapro is very scary and lonely. Anxiety, panic, and depression can be very trying.  What does am cortisol surge mean?   My brain feels like it is going to explode at times, the numbing and tingling is going to drive me nuts.   The left side of my face is numb and sore.  I get left eye pressure and a sore eye, some blurriness .  I noticed today my right one is starting to feel pressure and soreness.  The crazy thing is it will come and go.  Light some times, then they are really sore.  My ears are starting to feel pressure on and off.  I am worrying  if the Lexapro is making things worse.  I want to tapper off now.  What I really need is support.  SA has been a big help.  It is comforting to get some answer on what is going on with me.  My Doctor does not get it.  I'm learning a lot. I read the threads and not sure how to start a dialog with other members.( I am very tech. challenged but learning). Any help to point me in the right direction would be much appreciated.

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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17 minutes ago, Greatful said:

I forgot to put xanax in my list of drugs.  I take 1/2 of a .25mg every night with trazadone and melatonin. 

Please include this in your drug signature.  Here's the link to make the addition:

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature.

 

Here's explanation of morning cortisol surges:

 

Early-morning waking - managing the morning cortisol spike ...

 

I know your symptoms are difficult and scary.  They will get better.  Time is the great healer.

 

19 minutes ago, Greatful said:

I read the threads and not sure how to start a dialog with other members.

 

I'm tech-challenged too but you will get the hang of it.  One good way to start a dialog is to read the recent posts of members, particularly in the Introductions and updates forum but also in the other forums.  If you read something you relate to, or see someone you want to encourage, or have a question, post your thoughts.  There are two ways to make sure the member sees the post:

 

1.  You can highlight the section of their post on which you want to comment.  Then a rectangle with "quote selection" will appear.  Click on that and the member will be notified that you posted on his/her thread.  Or if it's a short post or you want to comment on the whole post, at the lower left of every post is a + sign and the word "quote."  Click on that and they'll be notified.

 

2.  Or you can se the @ followed by the member's name (no space between).  A rectangle will appear.  Click on that and then write your post.  The member will be notified that you posted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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1 hour ago, Gridley said:

I already messed up.  Hit a key and end up here.  Anyway, a tough morning Depression and anxiety up.  Mornings are usually the hardest for me.     I was wondering if you could explain to me what  SERT means in layman's terms.  I have  a appointment with my therapist this afternoon and I would like to talk to her about everything I am learning.  It is hard right now do to Covid, we only meet tele Health, so that means I can give her any print outs. 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 

 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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@Greatful

 

You asked for an explanation of SERT in layman's terms.  

 

SERT means how many of your serotonin neurotransmitters (message senders) have been made to stop functioning by the SSRI antidepressant drug, in your case Lexapro.  

 

I think of it as parts of your brain that have been captured by the enemy (the drug) and been put out of commission.

 

There is a high rate of receptor occupancy at low doses of the drug.  That is to say, even on low doses of the drug, it is still having a major effect on the brain.  This is the reason for a very slow taper at low doses of the drug to allow your brain to adapt to your neurotransmitters gradually "coming back to life." 
 
 This link has more information: 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Greatful

Please I need some reassurance and encouragement.  I am in a really big spiral.  My depression has been rough the last few days, dark for awhile than lifts to almost gone than returns.    My head feels like it is going to explode..  The pressure, tingling, buzzing and numbing in my brain is going to drive me nuts. My brain feels like it is in a panic,  maybe the nerves are all shorting out. I have been looking at other peoples symptoms, it seems most of what I read is they experience tingling and numbness in their hands and feet. Lucky me I get it all in my brain.

 

I know I started and stopped several med in the last 6 months and started Lexapro (bad side affects,  I wonder now if I am having a bad reaction to it) Can this really be withdrawals and going to 10mg and back down to5mg. on the Lexapro? I really want off this drug.  I can't wait until I can tapper off.  It's been 2 months since I quit Seroquel.  I don't have to reinstate do I? I have seen some glimmers of hope but they don't lasts long. 

 

I also dropped down to .125 of the xanax 1 time a day (at night.) When I started the Magnesium Glycinate and L theanine it helped a lot with the anxiety.( about a week now)   I was taking on average 2 to 4 tablets  .125mg a day.  Very drug sensitive.  That was enough to take the edge off.  Now I'm wondering if I should go up on the xanax again.  Do you think I'm having some wd from it?  I have been taking for about 7 months.  

 

I bough a scale from amazon, I'm trying to be more exact with the xanax and trazadone.  I was just braking them in half, not to careful with even brakes.  Do you think I'm adjusting to any changes form that.  I know starting to chase my tail.  It seems like we do this when we feel desperate and panicked, trying to find away out. I have reading and learning from other members.  I started to meditate and daily journal.  Doing some cbt from David Burns Feeling good Handbook. Learning how to recognize cognitive distortions.  I have a great Therapist who is on board to help me get through this.  I have a wonderful supportive husband, ( I know I am wearing him out).  A couple of my daughters that are there for me. I am hoping to learn as much as I can from SA.   Even with all that sometimes you feel scared and alone.    

Thank You for reading  

 

 

My  symptoms:

brain buzzing

brain tingling

brain feeling numb in spots moves around

headaches

sore and numb left side of face, eye and ear.  Sometimes it is on the right side, mostly left.

some muscle weakness

when anxiety is up ,   nausea 

Depression 

anxiety

restless sleep wake up on and off  anxiety starts around  5am

fatigue off and on

sound sensitivity

light sensitivity 

fear

paranoia 

panic

dizzy

 

 

 

 

 

  

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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 Here it is almost 3 in the morning.  I thought I should clarify,  all my symptoms I mentioned are not new.  Some have just been a little worse in the last few days.  So I started to try and figure out why the anxiety is up, not sleeping as well, more restless sleep, and the depression,  could it be the drop in xanax,  weighing the drugs etc.  Which brings me to my next question.  I am finding my tablets for Trazadone and the Lamictal vary slightly in weight.  How exact do you have to be.  I bought Gem 20 (jewelry scale) from Amazon. I better try and go back to sleep.  We will see how the morning is.

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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@Gridley  I would really appreciate some advice.  I know this is a holiday weekend, when you can please get back to me I have an appt with my Doctor tomorrow ( the one how told me to take a med holiday) he is expecting me to be done with Lexapro.  I took your advice and stayed on the 5mg.  It has been a rough road (as you can tell by my plea for help the other day.  I know we all grasp for quick answers and I want to thank all you moderators for the patience you show us that are struggling to get well.  I also noticed that my little bump in the road is around the same time I went from cutting 10mg tablets to 5mg tablets, they are from 2 different manufactures.  I have always been sensitive to different generic manufactures.  Anyway, do you have any thought on the brand name being a better choice? Should I ask for name brand Lexapro.(not sure if insurance will pay.  My therapist claims the doctor can strongly request). My other choice is try and stick with the 5mg manufacture that I am on now.  I seem to b stabling a little.  The only thing is I have run into the past is chasing down manufactures because the pharmacy can not get the one I needed at the time,  they claim there is none available, or their wholesaler has gone with a different manufacture. 

 

Thank You 

Greatful 

 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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3 hours ago, Greatful said:

2 different manufactures.  I have always been sensitive to different generic manufactures.  Anyway, do you have any thought on the brand name being a better choice? 

To the best of my knowledge, there is no cross-the-board "best" generic.  Some people do better on one, some on another.  Some people are more tolerant of differences than others.  Regarding whether brand name Lexapro is better than generics, there are different views.  Generics manufactured in the U.S. are held to certain manufacturing standards, but there are going to be some variances, among the different generics and also between generics and brand name.  Whether those variances are going to affect you is unknown.  You know your body better than anyone, and if you know yourself to be sensitive to these differences, that's a big factor to consider in terms of consistence as you move forward.

 

Here are some pros and cons for you to weigh:

 

A disadvantage of switching to brand Lexapro is that it is another change and, if possible, it's best to minimize changes.  (Of course, as you note, there is the possibility or even probability of your generic being changed and possibly more than once). There's the question of expense and insurance coverage. Another consideration: switching (from generic to brand or from generic to generic) should be done gradually.  For now and your future reference, here is our recommended crossover schedule:

 

3/4 dose old, 1/4 dose new for 3 to 7 days

1/2, 1/2 for 3 to 7 days

1/4 dose old, 3/4 dose new for 3 to 7 days

all new thereafter

 

Don't taper while in the crossover period (only one change at a time).

 

As to advantages of changing to brand Lexapro, you'll be assured of always getting the same drug without being subject to the vagaries of availability.  There's also the psychological aspect.  Some tests have indicated that much, if not virtually all, of the effect of antidepressant drugs is placebo, and this aspect isn't to be underestimated.  I remember when I was on brand name Tofranil and suddenly could only get generic Imipramine.  I was very concerned and was sure I could tell a difference between the brand and the generic.  Was there a physical difference?  Or was it "only" psychological?  No way to know.  Both are real.

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@GridleyThank for the info.  I will have to think in it.  I may have to see if the pharmacy still has the manufacture from the one I am using now.  He only gave me 14 day supply because I was suppose to be done....I will not have tablets left to crossover properly.  Which is always going to be the problem, you only get 1 month supply at a time.  I really hate being so sensitive. 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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35 minutes ago, Greatful said:

Which is always going to be the problem, you only get 1 month supply at a time.  I really hate being so sensitive. 

I understand.  Just do the best you can with whatever inventory you have or can get.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@Gridley  Update:

It has been 11 weeks since I ct Seroquel and started Lexapro.

I started weighing my Trazadone and Xanax and Lamictal  I was just braking them in half.  I see now that I was not getting the same dose every day.

Trazadone 25mg

Lamictal  37.5

Xanax .125mg at night.  I stated in a earlier comment that I quit taking xanax during the day.  About a week later I started to notice I was feeling sick and nauseas around 4pm.  So I started braking off a piece (around 1/2 of a .125mg) at around 4-5pm.  That seems to have helped.  I am so glad that I was very conservative when I started taking it about 8 months ago.  Usually no more than 5mg split up throughout the day.  My pdoc was recommending I could take more.  I guess my body was conditioned to take even that small amount.   Scary....

 

Melatonin .5mg.  I was waking up with depression in the morning and feeling sluggish. I remember reading that a uncommon side effect of Melatonin is short term depression.  Not sure what they mean by sort term depression?  So on Monday I started to brake off to brake off some, not sure the exact amount.  I have been waking up feeling a little better. (maybe just a wave)  I did not sleep as well the first couple of nights.  Who know what is what. 

 

I have been feeling a little stronger, my anxiety and depression are way down. (Maybe just in a wave this  week) My brain sensations are still a problem, and I get over stimulated easily.  I work for a school, in food service, so I am off for the summer.  My brain would often feel like it was going to explode or I would have a lot of buzzing, tingling and squeezing sensations when I would get home. The disconnected thinking is really frustrating.  Shopping and being around people also is to simulating.  

 

I have been trying to meditate 2 times a day. Now that school is out I will be walking almost everyday. Starting around 2 miles a day.  Learning acceptance is hard and that thoughts are just that THOUGHTS.

 

I am anxious for some reassurance.  I am reading  Your Drug Might Be Your Problem    BY Peter Breggin  and David Cohen.   They imply that some people  may have irreversible change from taking these drugs.  I worry since I have been on a antidepressant for over 20 year that I will have done damage to my brain........I don't even know if I ever needed meds.  I was put on it meds in my early 30 because of having waves of panic over a situation.  I have always been in a fight or flight mode from around age 11 or 12 yrs old do to a unstable home life which cause constant fear.  I wonder if I would have gotten therapy things would have turned out differently.  

 

Here is my inpatients... When I started Lexapro I had such bad side effects.  I am so scared the brain sensations are mostly from the drug...

It makes me want off this drug.   I also know that some of the craziness can be a from going off the Seroquel  ct., all the withdrawals from going  on off the other drugs (maybe withdrawal from the Prozac also) and big decreases with the Lamictal.

 

You advise I wait 3 months . That would bring around July 1st. If I do start a taper around than, what do you recommend for a starting  point.  It has be a nightmare for the since last Fall. I am afraid of going back to that nightmare.  As much as I want off, I do not want to go to backwards in withdrawal from where I am at right now.  I also think that I should use the Brassmonkey slide.

 

 I have an appt. with a new pdoc on June 29th.  As of right now it will be a video appt.  I will not be able give her any printed out information.  I do not want to go in there with guns blazing.  I am so angry with my present pdoc.  I want to go in with the hope that her and I will be able to work together.  What information do you think would be the best to have ready. 

 

Also my therapist is very much interested in some literature that she can look at. Fact based. She is curious if my diagnosis, first depression and anxiety,  meds were not making everything better.  I know now I was suffering from withdrawal when I was hospitalized in Oct 2015.  I had tried to go off Lexapro that summer. A lot of med changes, while in the hospital and than when I got home, ended back on Prozac,  since I would have energetic times through all the years I was on antidepressants   I should add Lamictal for mood stabilizer,  changed it to biplor 2. She is wondering if the meds may have caused  the hypomania..   I told her about SA and Withdrawal Project Form.  I think it is  called " withdrawal.innercompose.org "   She is really behind me and it seem to me  she wants to learn.... Can you help me with this also

Thanks Greatful

 

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5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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49 minutes ago, Greatful said:

I have been trying to meditate 2 times a day. Now that school is out I will be walking almost everyday. Starting around 2 miles a day.  Learning acceptance is hard and that thoughts are just that THOUGHTS.

Hi Greatful,

Stopping by to give you some support. It’s great you’re meditating and walking, these should definitely help you. I don’t know where I’d be without meditation, I recommend a daily practice, even if you can only do it once a day.

52 minutes ago, Greatful said:

I am anxious for some reassurance.  I am reading  Your Drug Might Be Your Problem    BY Peter Breggin  and David Cohen.   They imply that some people  may have irreversible change from taking these drugs.  I worry since I have been on a antidepressant for over 20 year that I will have done damage to my brain........I don't even know if I ever needed meds.  I was put on it meds in my early 30 because of having waves of panic over a situation.  I have always been in a fight or flight mode from around age 11 or 12 yrs old do to a unstable home life which cause constant fear.  I wonder if I would have gotten therapy things would have turned out differently.  

Yes, you are going to be okay, just give it some time and listen to the moderator’s advice on tapering, they know what they’re doing!! I too have been on medication for 20 years for anxiety and panic from trauma. This experience gave me an opportunity to really work on myself and learn how to heal my trauma and accept my emotions. Don’t waste time wondering what could have happened, the past is the past. Focus on right now and how you can improve your situation. Learn non drug coping skills. Be kind and patient with yourself. 

Sending you healing vibes 💓

Been on medication since 1999. Previous medications include Remeron, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Lamictal, Xanax, Ativan, Valium, Ability.

Amitriptyline: 50 mg 2015-5/20. Decreased 50mg to 25 mg first week in May, 25mg to 12mg second week in May, 25mg to 10mg third week in May, 10mg to 8 mg fourth week in May. Stayed here for a month and reinstated 2 mg in July. 1/21 -4/21 9-0 mg Amitriptyline 

Klonopin: .5 mg since 2001

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them.”  - Albert Einstein 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Greatful said:

They imply that some people  may have irreversible change from taking these drugs.  I worry since I have been on a antidepressant for over 20 year that I will have done damage to my brain

It has been our experience on this site that we all recover from these drugs.  Anecdotally, I've been on an antidepressant (Imipramine) for over 35 years and my brain is fine.

 

2 hours ago, Greatful said:

If I do start a taper around than, what do you recommend for a starting  point.  It has be a nightmare for the since last Fall. I am afraid of going back to that nightmare.  As much as I want off, I do not want to go to backwards in withdrawal from where I am at right now.  I also think that I should use the Brassmonkey slide.

 

We recommend tapering activating drugs (such as SSRI's like Lexapro) first, leaving sedating drugs in place to help with sleep to be tapered later.  So I'd start with the Lexapro.  I tapered Lexapro using the Brassmonkey slide and recommend that method.

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

The link is specifically about tapering Lexapro, including how to get the small non-standard doses needed for a taper.  Prescription Lexapro liquid is a convenient and easy way to taper Lexapro.  If you choose that method, we recommend a crossover period from the tablet to the liquid to acclimate your system to the liquid.  The crossover schedule is in my May 31 post to you.  The link also contains information about other tapering methods, including weighing tablet powder with a digital scale.

 

Tips for tapering off escitalopram (Lexapro)

 

2 hours ago, Greatful said:

What information do you think would be the best to have ready.

 

The U.K. is ahead of the U.S. in terms of acknowledging withdrawal, and their official psychiatric organization, the Royal College of Psychiatrists, totally reversed their previous position on withdrawal in 2019 to admit that withdrawal can be both severe and long-lasting.  Here are two links you can provide:

 

 

And here's an article with leaders in the RCP explaining why they wrote that. 

 

 
Our link on the 10% every four weeks taper (which is a bit faster than the Brassmonkey slide) lists several experts who recommend the 10% taper.  Here's the link:
 
 
2 hours ago, Greatful said:

She is wondering if the meds may have caused  the hypomania.

Hypomania is a common side effect of antidepressants and antidepressant withdrawal.  Google Survivingantidepressants.org hypomania and read through the posts.  See also number 21 of this list of common antidepressant withdrawal symptoms written by psychiatrist Dr. Joseph Glenmullan

 

Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

Here's his bio if your doctor wants to check his credentials.

 

Joseph Glenmullen | Official Publisher Page | Simon & Schuster

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover + change to one 18.75mg dose, w/1 month hold.

Feb. 9, 2021, begin 10% every 4 weeks taper.  Current dose as of May 18: 11.7mgai.  Taper is 37.6% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 16mgai (44mgpw).  Aug 2016, discovered SA, holding at 16mg.  Taper is 78% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg.


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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@GridleyThank you again for getting back to me and for all your support.  I will look things over,  I have a few week until I need to make any decisions.   

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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@Mia1Thanks so much for your encouragement.  It sure came a the right time.  I  received my copy of medical history from the  pdoc. I had to sigh a release for my records to be sent to my new pdoc.  I wanted a copy for myself.  I read through them, I am not sure if it was a good idea.

It seems I was never fully happy on the meds.  I can't believe how many times the doctor thought I wasn't using the xanax enough to control the anxiety.  I can read all their notes on the office visits.   I am really scared, I don't know how I will do off the meds or how I will make it through the tapering.   I'll I remember through the years is feeling drugged or anxious, sad.  I tried to go off a few times by myself and crashed. 

I thought all my symptom were coming back when I would crash after I tried to stop on my own.  The anxiety was a constant wave after wave through my body all day long, then the dark depression.  The funny thing is I never was that depressed before meds. Slow and steady to by pass that............

 

Yes I do agree that it will take acceptance, patients, positive attitude, support from my husband, family, educating myself and support from everyone here on SA.  I will also be working with my therapist personal issues. 

 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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I guess my 5 days of a nice window with less anxiety and depression is now closing.  Depression is returning.  I read most people talk about low mood or sadness, I'm thinking it is their way of saying depression.  Is the word depression a label and that is why sadness and low mood are used? I hate the hopelessness and despair that I feel with it.  I am trying to be okay with it and not fight it. It is hard not to go down the self defeating thinking. I did go for a walk, planted a Hosta and watered some plants. I enjoy sitting on my front porch outside and listening to the bird sing and the wind through the trees.  I have to move forward and keep going.  Tomorrow will be better.....

 

 

5/2020  through 11/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  depression and anxiety insomnia

12/2/2020 Zoloft 12.5mg 12/13  25mg.   12/24  37.5mg  12/28  50mg.  Bad side  stop

1/5/2021 up lamictal from 200mg to 300mg.  1/13  lamictal 400mg.  Brain started ruminating and obsessing 1/17 lamictal 300mg.  1/22 lamictal 200mg

1/22/2021  Seroquel 50mg for sleep  Became paranoid. nausea headaches 1/29  stopped

1/29/2021 Trazadone 50mg      4/25  25mg

2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5

2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/16  stopped

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr   3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects Stop   

4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg   4/30 10mg       5/10  7.5mg   5/16  5mg

 5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone   L theanine 200mg   xanax  .25 as needed  Magnesium glycinate 100mg  Omega 3 2000mg  Turmeric  1500mg  .5 mg melatonin

 

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