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On 9/4/2021 at 6:27 PM, Greatful said:

I hate that I am so sound sensitive an also unfocused, it makes it hard to concentrate to read, even on the forum here gets overwhelming

 

I also have that. And it sucks. Reading can give a bit of distraction. When you can't even do that, there's not much left but your own thoughts.  😬

 

1996 - Paroxetine 20 mg

2019 - Start taper Paroxetine

2021 June - tapered till 5 mg

Severe withdrawal symptoms

2021 July - added Fluoxetine 10 mg

Lorazepam 0.5 mg when needed

2021 Aug - Further tapering Paroxetine

Fast taper 5mg-0mg in 6 weeks plan

2021 Aug 6 - Fluoxetine increase to 15 mg

2021 Aug 14 - down to Paroxetine 3 mg  /  [taper in 0.1 steps] to Sep 1 - Paroxetine 1 mg /  Sep 16 Paroxetine 0mg [2 weeks taper in 0.1 mg steps]

Supplements: Multivitamine 1 daily, Omega 3-6-9 one every other day, Vit. D every day (had deficiency)

 

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Hi @Greatfulstopping by to say hello and see how you are doing ❤️

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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Mia1  I am actually feeling okay.   I guess got done talking to a friend and I know that she can relate to all my craziness. 😉😘  

I am feeling a bit under the weather with a mild case of a flu that is going around.  My husband had it last week, it really wiped him out fear, sore throat, congestion, some cough,.  He went for a covid test and it came back negative.  He got it from when we went on the family trip.  Some of the grandkids came down with it too and had negative covid tests.   I guess the regular cold and flu season has started.   My daughter is in the med field and said they are seeing this...I didn't get as sick as him.  I guess the stress of living with me going through w/d for almost a year now has worn him down.....🙄

I just so relieved that the anxiety has gone and the depression is mild.  I think it has more to do with the impatience of wanting to feel back to functioning like a human being😉

I know that when I don't feel and disconnect, crushing, buzzing and blunstsing going on in my brain I will be feel so much better...I dream of thinking with some clear and rational thinking🤩

 

I must say when I person in WD actually feels like they have life in them, they worry they might be bi-polar,  what be in a good mood and have a little spark ,  what's wrong with me.......

 

I hope you are having a great day.❤️

 

Did you ever get a chance to try the meditation....A New Beginning   A Habit Changing Meditation?  I really like it.....

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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I’m SO happy you are feeling better 🎉

 

I have a friend like that and it really does make a difference😊

 

Enjoy the day, you deserve it!!💖

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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On 9/22/2021 at 11:45 AM, Greatful said:

Did you ever get a chance to try the meditation....A New Beginning   A Habit Changing Meditation?  I really like it.....

I finally got around to doing it yesterday, I really liked it. Thanks for the reminder, brain fog......

 

 

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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Update:

I have been in a better over all better spot,, still having wd symptoms but finding my brain is a little more clear.   I feel like I had adjusted to the 2% cut and healed some even, so it has been 25 days since I cut 2%,  I decided to try cut 3% today.

I will be leaning on those of you who are tapering and still feel wd symptoms. 

What is wd normal?  

 

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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6 hours ago, Greatful said:

Update:

I have been in a better over all better spot,, still having wd symptoms but finding my brain is a little more clear.   I feel like I had adjusted to the 2% cut and healed some even, so it has been 25 days since I cut 2%,  I decided to try cut 3% today.

I will be leaning on those of you who are tapering and still feel wd symptoms. 

What is wd normal?  

 

 

 

 

@Greatful, so nice to hear you're in a better place, albeit not exactly where you want to be.  I'm still quite new to this tapering/wd lark but really feel for folk like yourself who's symptoms sound unbearable to me.  To date, I've been quite lucky!  Hope the 3% cut goes ok.

 

Ruby x

2003 - 2018 Started/stopped lithium, sodium valproate, fluoxetine, venlafaxine, seroxat, citalopram and many more that I can't remember. 2018 - 120 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  2019  - 60 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  Feb 2020 - Quetiapine - up to 200 mg slow release, 60 mg Duloxetine, Olanzapine to 10 mgu Aug 2020 - Tapered Quetiapine far too fast under GPs advice -  withdrawal symptoms included mood swings, insomnia, anxiety, dizziness (misdiagnosed BPPV), low blood pressure - 60 mg Duloxetine, 10 mg Olanzapine

4 Mar 2021 - failed taper to 5 mg Olanzapine 20 Mar 2021 -  reinstated 10 mg Olanzapine

19 Apr 2021 - 60 mg Duloxetine, 7.5 mg Olanzapine

24 June 2021 - 6.25mg olanzapine, 60mg duloxetine

22 July 2021 - 6.25mg Olanzapine, 50mg Duloxetine

10 August 2021 - 6.25 mg olanzapine, 40 mg Duloxetine

28 August 20216.25 Olanzapine35 mg Duloxetine - low mood/depression, insomnia withdrawal symptoms

26 August 2021 - 5 mg Nitrazepam , previously I took one 3 or 4 weeks ago;  7 October - 5 mg nitrazepam

Other meds/supplements:  solifinacin, loperimide, lutein/zeatheanin,, methyl cellulose, I also have nitrazepam, lorazepam, propranolol - I take rarely  

14 October 2021 stopped - magnesium oxide & B6, menopause tablet.  

5 Jan 2024 tapered duloxetine 40mg in days. trazedone 75mg.

14 Jan 2024 - 150mg trazedone, 7.5mg olanzapine, vit D, omega 3, simvastatin.  

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On 9/26/2021 at 1:06 AM, Greatful said:

Update:

I have been in a better over all better spot,, still having wd symptoms but finding my brain is a little more clear.   I feel like I had adjusted to the 2% cut and healed some even, so it has been 25 days since I cut 2%,  I decided to try cut 3% today.

I will be leaning on those of you who are tapering and still feel wd symptoms. 

What is wd normal?  

 

 

 

 

I so happy to hear your feeling better after the drop. You really have this in the bag. Keep going strong 💪 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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@Cheeky Hi there, thanks for stopping by. I have been laying low for a little while.  I hit a few really rough days after the drop.  Trying to stay focused on taking care of me.  Man I can sure say the Quote One day at a time really is true.  Somedays you wonder how you are going to get through the next few hours let alone the whole day.  But you tell yourself I have made it through many days in misery I can do this one too....I can't think about tomorrow yet, just work on today.

 

How are you doing?  The up dose is working for you.  Stay put and go slow when you decide to taper again.  You and I can compare notes together as we work our way off of these drugs and get our brains back.🙄

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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29 minutes ago, Greatful said:

 Hi there, thanks for stopping by. I have been laying low for a little while.  I hit a few really rough days after the drop.  Trying to stay focused on taking care of me.  Man I can sure say the Quote One day at a time really is true.  Somedays you wonder how you are going to get through the next few hours let alone the whole day.  But you tell yourself I have made it through many days in misery I can do this one too....I can't think about tomorrow yet, just work on today.

I think your doing an amazing job, this will be the hardest thing you ever have to do , your attitude is what’s going to see you through . Day by day minute by minute is the only thing one can do when where fighting a struggle. 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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31 minutes ago, Greatful said:

How are you doing?  The up dose is working for you.  Stay put and go slow when you decide to taper again.  You and I can compare notes together as we work our way off of these drugs and get our brains back.🙄

Yes the updose did work. But I’m still really sensitive to any stress. I’ve had to go back to work in a couple of weeks and it’s bringing a lot of stress and that brings in waves, not ones that I can handle but the symptoms are still there . I’m trying to not worry about it but it easier to say then done

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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35 minutes ago, Greatful said:

@Cheeky Hi there, thanks for stopping by. I have been laying low for a little while.  I hit a few really rough days after the drop.  Trying to stay focused on taking care of me.  Man I can sure say the Quote One day at a time really is true.  Somedays you wonder how you are going to get through the next few hours let alone the whole day.  But you tell yourself I have made it through many days in misery I can do this one too....I can't think about tomorrow yet, just work on today.

 

How are you doing?  The up dose is working for you.  Stay put and go slow when you decide to taper again.  You and I can compare notes together as we work our way off of these drugs and get our brains back.🙄

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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@Greatful, sorry you've been struggling, you're such a strong person and I have every confidence you'll get through this and support other people at the same time!  I remember the one day at a time or minute by minute for when I used to post on alcohol forums, great advice.  Thanks again for supporting me the other day, it really helped, luckily I'm feeling quite a bit better today (almost abnormal lol).

 

Ruby x

2003 - 2018 Started/stopped lithium, sodium valproate, fluoxetine, venlafaxine, seroxat, citalopram and many more that I can't remember. 2018 - 120 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  2019  - 60 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  Feb 2020 - Quetiapine - up to 200 mg slow release, 60 mg Duloxetine, Olanzapine to 10 mgu Aug 2020 - Tapered Quetiapine far too fast under GPs advice -  withdrawal symptoms included mood swings, insomnia, anxiety, dizziness (misdiagnosed BPPV), low blood pressure - 60 mg Duloxetine, 10 mg Olanzapine

4 Mar 2021 - failed taper to 5 mg Olanzapine 20 Mar 2021 -  reinstated 10 mg Olanzapine

19 Apr 2021 - 60 mg Duloxetine, 7.5 mg Olanzapine

24 June 2021 - 6.25mg olanzapine, 60mg duloxetine

22 July 2021 - 6.25mg Olanzapine, 50mg Duloxetine

10 August 2021 - 6.25 mg olanzapine, 40 mg Duloxetine

28 August 20216.25 Olanzapine35 mg Duloxetine - low mood/depression, insomnia withdrawal symptoms

26 August 2021 - 5 mg Nitrazepam , previously I took one 3 or 4 weeks ago;  7 October - 5 mg nitrazepam

Other meds/supplements:  solifinacin, loperimide, lutein/zeatheanin,, methyl cellulose, I also have nitrazepam, lorazepam, propranolol - I take rarely  

14 October 2021 stopped - magnesium oxide & B6, menopause tablet.  

5 Jan 2024 tapered duloxetine 40mg in days. trazedone 75mg.

14 Jan 2024 - 150mg trazedone, 7.5mg olanzapine, vit D, omega 3, simvastatin.  

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40 minutes ago, Greatful said:

@Cheeky Hi there, thanks for stopping by. I have been laying low for a little while.  I hit a few really rough days after the drop.  Trying to stay focused on taking care of me.  Man I can sure say the Quote One day at a time really is true.  Somedays you wonder how you are going to get through the next few hours let alone the whole day.  But you tell yourself I have made it through many days in misery I can do this one too....I can't think about tomorrow yet, just work on today.

 

How are you doing?  The up dose is working for you.  Stay put and go slow when you decide to taper again.  You and I can compare notes together as we work our way off of these drugs and get our brains back.🙄

@Greatfulthere is a lady called  Laura Delano 
she is a survivor of psych drugs and has an amazing website with great information 

https://www.theinnercompass.org/ 

But I love her Facebook page, she interviews people that have come off and hearing there stories is very encouraging.  She also has great guest speakers, I highly recommend you looking at it .

https://www.facebook.com/groups/innercompassconversations/?ref=share
 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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Hello my friend, how are you doing today?

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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On 9/29/2021 at 9:34 PM, Greatful said:

I have been laying low for a little while.  I hit a few really rough days after the drop.  Trying to stay focused on taking care of me.  Man I can sure say the Quote One day at a time really is true.  Somedays you wonder how you are going to get through the next few hours let alone the whole day.  But you tell yourself I have made it through many days in misery I can do this one too....I can't think about tomorrow yet, just work on today.

 

Hi @Greatful it really is one day at a time - but like you always say to me; we are strong and we can do this. xx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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@Mia1 @Kat66 

Thank you so much for stopping by, this journey can feel so lonely and isolating.  It is hard not to feel like the rest of the world is going happily along and you are trying to make it one minute or day at a time and have at it for monthsssssss.

 

It really has been a rough couple of days.   

Depression, worthlessness, weak, dizzy, brain disconnect, panic, anxiety,  I have had some freezing/cold spells off and on, dark thoughts, just to name a few oh yeah we must not forget the obsessing and rumination thoughts. I feel like I am hanging on by a thread. 

 

 Although Wednesday and Thursday were the worst, today a slight improvement. I can't believe how much just a 3% drop can affect you.  I suppose I need to realistic to the fact that I am still being in WD to start with is not helping.  The depression just about does you in.  My hope is that the last drop of 2% was rough to begin with but I came around.  

Do you think either one of you can spare a little strength and also remind me that this nightmare will end I will have my brain back.

 

I am trying to function, went to one of my daughter house to have dinner with her family last night.  My hubby smoked ribs and they were good.  Today we went on errand  and had  lunch outside at a restaurant in the city.  How do you enjoy something when you feel sick and out it, but all in all it was nice as it can be when you are in WD.

 

How are the two of you doing?

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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You totally have this @Grateful and you’re doing a really good job. ❤️

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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@Greatful I'm so sorry you're in the depths of w/d and just wish there was something I could do to help.  Everyone says it does get better and we have to believe that. Like you said one minute at a time if need be.  You're one of the strongest people I've ever 'met' and your advice to others is fantastic, especially knowing what you're going through.  

 

Ruby x

2003 - 2018 Started/stopped lithium, sodium valproate, fluoxetine, venlafaxine, seroxat, citalopram and many more that I can't remember. 2018 - 120 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  2019  - 60 mg Duloxetine, 20 mg Olanzapine  Feb 2020 - Quetiapine - up to 200 mg slow release, 60 mg Duloxetine, Olanzapine to 10 mgu Aug 2020 - Tapered Quetiapine far too fast under GPs advice -  withdrawal symptoms included mood swings, insomnia, anxiety, dizziness (misdiagnosed BPPV), low blood pressure - 60 mg Duloxetine, 10 mg Olanzapine

4 Mar 2021 - failed taper to 5 mg Olanzapine 20 Mar 2021 -  reinstated 10 mg Olanzapine

19 Apr 2021 - 60 mg Duloxetine, 7.5 mg Olanzapine

24 June 2021 - 6.25mg olanzapine, 60mg duloxetine

22 July 2021 - 6.25mg Olanzapine, 50mg Duloxetine

10 August 2021 - 6.25 mg olanzapine, 40 mg Duloxetine

28 August 20216.25 Olanzapine35 mg Duloxetine - low mood/depression, insomnia withdrawal symptoms

26 August 2021 - 5 mg Nitrazepam , previously I took one 3 or 4 weeks ago;  7 October - 5 mg nitrazepam

Other meds/supplements:  solifinacin, loperimide, lutein/zeatheanin,, methyl cellulose, I also have nitrazepam, lorazepam, propranolol - I take rarely  

14 October 2021 stopped - magnesium oxide & B6, menopause tablet.  

5 Jan 2024 tapered duloxetine 40mg in days. trazedone 75mg.

14 Jan 2024 - 150mg trazedone, 7.5mg olanzapine, vit D, omega 3, simvastatin.  

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2 hours ago, Greatful said:

this journey can feel so lonely and isolating.  It is hard not to feel like the rest of the world is going happily along and you are trying to make it one minute or day at a time and have at it for monthsssssss.

@Greatful It does feel lonely when you’re surrounded by people happily going along living life, that’s what’s brilliant about this site though, everyone gets it.

 

2 hours ago, Greatful said:

The depression just about does you in. 

I hear you. It’s HORRIBLE. Your symptoms sound bloody awful. I can totally relate. I’ve not gone down in dose yet since reinstating but it sounds pretty scary. 
 

Some words of encouragement? You said you felt a slight improvement after a couple of days. Know that this too shall pass, and things will even themselves out again. Just take it day by day and don’t expect too much of yourself. That’s really helped me. Just being über gentle with myself when I’m feeling sh*te. 

I’m up and down at the moment, like a bloody rollercoaster. Lots of anhedonia and irritability. Some depression. I’ve definitely found the lemon balm tea helps though. 
Look after yourself xx

 

2 hours ago, Greatful said:

@Mia1 @Kat66 do you think either one of you can spare a little strength and also remind me that this nightmare will end I will have my brain back.

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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My dear @Greatful,

you may think everyone is happy and living there lives, but your wrong a lot of people struggle, where the only ones that are open to talk about it . As you know I’m a hairdresser and deal with so many people and I have yet to find someone that is blissfully happy. I find the people that are happy have gone through difficult times and it’s thiughyt them a lesson to enjoy every minute of there life. Going through WD is going to make us stronger ,more resilient , we will appreciate what life has to offer once we all get through this. The hardest part is going through what where in at the present moment but it’s not going to always be like this . You are strong and this will be just a bad memory. 
Im here for you and so is everyone else. Please be kind to yourself .

sending you lots of love ❤️ 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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@Greatful thanks for your words of wisdom on my thread. I really needed to hear that. 
Have you looked into the links I sent you . You really should as I I’ve seen 50 of them and they give you a lot of hope. 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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@Greatful just checking in to see if your okay ❤️

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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You've been so great at checking in on me. I thought I'd do the same for you! I read your last post and I'm sending you all the strength and hope I possibly can❤️ The nightmare will end! You will have your brain back!

These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I have learned, not medical advice.

 

Drug history

2002-2019 Citalopram/Escitalopram, Lamictal
2019 April Escitalopram, quit at 10mg (withdrawal), Oct Escitalopram 10mg reinstated, quit after a few days (adverse reaction)

2019 Oct Lamictal cut from 200mg to 100mg
2019 Dec Lithium 83x2 mg

2020 Aug-Nov Lamictal tapered to 50 mg

2020 Nov 24 Lithium taper started, 30 Jan off Lithium

2021 15. March-31. May Lamictal tapered to 32.5 mg (holding)

2022 10. Jan started taking 25mg+5mg+2mg+0.5 liquid, 22. Jan went back to taking 25mg+5mg+half 5mg

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@Cheeky @Kiasofia  Thank You both for caring, taking the time to stop in when you have your own things going on.  I would really love to set a table and offer you both a cup of coffee and have a good long chat.  You both have endured so much, we are in this together, right.☺️

 

Today is day 11 from my drop.  I am feeling a little bit better yesterday and today.. Sunday was a nightmare of symptoms, but hey I made it.  I can only hope that I am on the other side of the drop.  Slowly my brain is coming back to me.  It slips in and out of focus rational thinking)  and panic  Both of you have demonstrated that the our brains are healing, slowly but surely it is happening.  I am hoping as I go down on the Lex the brain will clear even more.🙄 I really have to  remind myself to be kind to myself and patient.  Enjoy the less symptoms days.  I have down loaded a lot of games on my tablet.  So set up a routine and wait it out.  I rode the riding lawn mower today did some errands yesterday and it showed me that I have to do small things and take breaks,  man I get over stimulated easily.

 

Take you 2 and hang in there❤️

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Cheeky 

On 9/29/2021 at 4:21 PM, Cheeky said:

But I love her Facebook page, she interviews people that have come off and hearing there stories is very encouraging.  She also has great guest speakers, I highly recommend you looking at it .

https://www.facebook.com/groups/innercompassconversations/?ref=share
 

Oh yeah, thanks for links.  I haven't listened to them yet.  I have to wait until I am not so sensitive to sounds and my brain can keep up with the talking.  I will check it out.  

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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9 minutes ago, Greatful said:

would really love to set a table and offer you both a cup of coffee and have a good long chat. 

That would be great, maybe one day

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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10 minutes ago, Greatful said:

@Cheeky @Kiasofia  Thank You both for caring, taking the time to stop in when you have your own things going on.  I would really love to set a table and offer you both a cup of coffee and have a good long chat.  You both have endured so much, we are in this together, right.☺️

 

Today is day 11 from my drop.  I am feeling a little bit better yesterday and today.. Sunday was a nightmare of symptoms, but hey I made it.  I can only hope that I am on the other side of the drop.  Slowly my brain is coming back to me.  It slips in and out of focus rational thinking)  and panic  Both of you have demonstrated that the our brains are healing, slowly but surely it is happening.  I am hoping as I go down on the Lex the brain will clear even more.🙄 I really have to  remind myself to be kind to myself and patient.  Enjoy the less symptoms days.  I have down loaded a lot of games on my tablet.  So set up a routine and wait it out.  I rode the riding lawn mower today did some errands yesterday and it showed me that I have to do small things and take breaks,  man I get over stimulated easily.

 

Take you 2 and hang in there❤️

Your really doing an amazing job in dealing with all of this. I so happy your seeing improvements. Your on the right track so keep doing what your doing. It’s great you can pick yourself up from those bad days. , there the worst , but you got through and realised it’s not always going to be like that. 
This forum truly is a lifesaver, I personally wouldn’t k ow what to do without people like you. 
Your doing great 👍 

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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Hello my friend, how are you doing today?

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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@Mia1 Hi there,

I am in a little slump today.  Fatigue set in.  Feeling the cold spell again, and my left arm muscle was twitching a lot this morning.  tI was crazy to watch the muscle twitch under the skin.  Up and down is my daily routine.  I am taking a few days to just do what I want, if that is sitting on my tablet, on the computer so be it.   

I thought of you yesterday, you talk about your neuro emotions,  one day as I was sitting in my recliner on my tablet, I felt the mood shifting in me and then the agitation and anger moved in, this happened again yesterday.  It usually doesn't last to long, maybe a hour or two then moves on.  As we are more stagnate in our life now it is a kind interesting to be able to sit and watch the the changing moods.  Remember when I told you about when I was anxious and I could see my brain searching for something to latch onto for the anxiety to have a reason to be there.  I noticed it again the other day.  Picture the eyes franticly searching right and left like in a cartoon.  That is what it felt like. 

I had a appt. with my physiatrist today.  She claims that she has worked with people in WD.  She still seemed a little perplexed on how my symptoms flatulate .  She is okay and in agreement with getting off the Lex.  I told her we were going slow,  she kind of throughout the possibility in speeding it up.   I told I don't know how I would respond to going faster.  I am afraid of the days where the depression gets so bad.  So she agreed to go slow.  If I knew that it wouldn't get any worse then it has I might think about it.  It is so scary to be in that darkness.

 

How are you doing?

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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Yes, I also find the healing to be up and down. I had a really good day yesterday and then today I’m more symptomatic. But I’m really grateful because I find that no matter what level of symptoms I have I always seem to have enough energy to get everything I want done and I genuinely find moments throughout the day where I’m really present and peaceful. I wrote in my journal last night that probably for the first time in my life I really trust myself and trust that I can handle whatever happens. Not even w/d so much but life in general, that was a big one for me.

 

I’m glad you’re taking it easy, this whole experience can be fatiguing. You make me laugh with your descriptions, I picture a brain with eyes looking around. I know how crazy it all is 😂🤪

 

You could always try a slightly larger cut and see how you manage, it seem like you usually level out after the first week. But obviously you should ultimately do what you’re comfortable with.  I have a really nice and supportive NP I see but she has no idea. When I first told her I was starting to taper she told me to take a small bite from the Klonopin pill and then throw the rest away. Can you imagine? She is open minded though and was supportive of the 10% cut. 
 

It was really nice catching up with you 💞
 


 


 

 

Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉

 

Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg

 

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl

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Oh @Mia1  The roller coaster is on the move again.   I got hit with a big wave of depression this afternoon.  I rated myself at 1/2 depressed this morning by this afternoon it was at a 3 and it felt like it was climbing, went for a walk, did some talking to myself, came home and meditated for 2 sessions,  and it is going down... Scared the heck what out of me.  The depression and paranoia  can just about do me in.  I just went through that a few days ago and I thought owe no not again🥴

I think I will try your idea, even when I feel the worst, come up with let's say, 3 things that are good in my life.  This on top of my daily gratitude  journaling.  I guess it can be added on to my daily mantra.  Feel awful but hey,  I have family, food, a wonderful husband, a dog that loves me, I can walk, talk and breath on my own. 

I have you and all the other here on SA that support me.❤️

What's another 24 hours, I can handle it.............Okay now I am getting goofy.  A little sense of humor goes along way.🤩

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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On 9/20/2021 at 11:28 AM, Greatful said:

@siderale  Thank you so much, it is nice to feel apart of the team and that we are here for each other😊

 

 

 A little up date....

Either I am in a little window, or small amount of healing in my brain has taken place. a little break from the darkness , still very much in wd but it is at a lesser degree. 

 

I am watching my diet more.  I am cutting out some of the foods that affect the histamine in your body.  Who would have thought , bananas, spinach and yogurt would be on the no- no list, I was having smoothies almost 5 days a week with spinach, Kale, yogurt, bananas  berries and milk. 

Peanut butter, avocado, dairy, beans, canned foods, processed or smoked meats, are a no-no to, blah, blah, blah. 

 

I also cut 2% of my Lexapro Sept. 1st.  I think things have settled out from that, so I will cut 2% next Monday about 3 1/2 between.

 

That smoothie sounds delicious!! Sorry you can't have it. I'm glad you found a window. In case it's helpful, I'm absolutely in love with my breakfast smoothie and am wondering if it would help you? It's Kelly Brogan's recipe--super high-fat and satiating, and nothing you've listed above (although I don't know anything about histamine and these foods..) Here it is just in case: https://www.kellybroganmd.com/blog/kb-smoothie

1990s Zoloft, Prozac, and a litany of other drugs including mood stabilizers

1998 Effexor 140mg and Remeron 40mg (I think) - quit cold turkey 2006 and NO W/D! Oh, to be young again... 

2004 Lorazepam 0.5mg; switched to Klonipin 2010

2010 Klonipin 1-2mg/day - decreased gradually down to 0.35mg 2016-2017 & held, then tapered off April-July 2020

2012 Lexapro and Seraquil/Remeron - quit CT 2012 after 1 month of use

2013 Methadone 80mg (for heroin addiction;) decreased to 30mg 2016-2021

2014 Effexor 75mg - tapered off over 1.5 weeks by doc 2017

2017 Citalopram 20mg - started tapering Dec. 2019-March 2020; got down to 14.35 mg then paused to taper off Klonipin

2021 - Citalopram down to 12.8mg in April; July 11.52mg, August 10mg, Oct 9mg, Nov 8.1mg, Dec 7.8mg

2022 - Citalopram 7.4mg

2023 - September - off methadone! FINALLY OPIOID-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supplements: Tryptophan, 5-HTP, Tyrosine, vitamin D, topical magnesium, ashwagandha, phenibut, lion's mane, CBD, GABA

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4 hours ago, Greatful said:

@Mia1 Hi there,

I am in a little slump today.  Fatigue set in.  Feeling the cold spell again, and my left arm muscle was twitching a lot this morning.  tI was crazy to watch the muscle twitch under the skin.  Up and down is my daily routine.  I am taking a few days to just do what I want, if that is sitting on my tablet, on the computer so be it.   

I thought of you yesterday, you talk about your neuro emotions,  one day as I was sitting in my recliner on my tablet, I felt the mood shifting in me and then the agitation and anger moved in, this happened again yesterday.  It usually doesn't last to long, maybe a hour or two then moves on.  As we are more stagnate in our life now it is a kind interesting to be able to sit and watch the the changing moods.  Remember when I told you about when I was anxious and I could see my brain searching for something to latch onto for the anxiety to have a reason to be there.  I noticed it again the other day.  Picture the eyes franticly searching right and left like in a cartoon.  That is what it felt like. 

I totally relate to this picture!! It is exactly like that for me many times. So cool you're able to witness it. Because then it doesn't own you :) 

4 hours ago, Greatful said:

I had a appt. with my physiatrist today.  She claims that she has worked with people in WD.  She still seemed a little perplexed on how my symptoms flatulate .  She is okay and in agreement with getting off the Lex.  I told her we were going slow,  she kind of throughout the possibility in speeding it up.   I told I don't know how I would respond to going faster.  I am afraid of the days where the depression gets so bad.  So she agreed to go slow.  If I knew that it wouldn't get any worse then it has I might think about it.  It is so scary to be in that darkness.

Congrats on finding a compassionate, supportive doc! This sounds like a big win. Yes, do what you're comfortable with and take it slow. There's no need to rush

 

1990s Zoloft, Prozac, and a litany of other drugs including mood stabilizers

1998 Effexor 140mg and Remeron 40mg (I think) - quit cold turkey 2006 and NO W/D! Oh, to be young again... 

2004 Lorazepam 0.5mg; switched to Klonipin 2010

2010 Klonipin 1-2mg/day - decreased gradually down to 0.35mg 2016-2017 & held, then tapered off April-July 2020

2012 Lexapro and Seraquil/Remeron - quit CT 2012 after 1 month of use

2013 Methadone 80mg (for heroin addiction;) decreased to 30mg 2016-2021

2014 Effexor 75mg - tapered off over 1.5 weeks by doc 2017

2017 Citalopram 20mg - started tapering Dec. 2019-March 2020; got down to 14.35 mg then paused to taper off Klonipin

2021 - Citalopram down to 12.8mg in April; July 11.52mg, August 10mg, Oct 9mg, Nov 8.1mg, Dec 7.8mg

2022 - Citalopram 7.4mg

2023 - September - off methadone! FINALLY OPIOID-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supplements: Tryptophan, 5-HTP, Tyrosine, vitamin D, topical magnesium, ashwagandha, phenibut, lion's mane, CBD, GABA

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19 hours ago, KittenLePurr said:

I totally relate to this picture!! It is exactly like that for me many times. So cool you're able to witness it. Because then it doesn't own you

It is crazy how the brain is so mixed up,  The mood swings yesterday put me on a wild ride. 

Panicky, then depressed, then angry then okay  then cocky feeling then back to anger.  Now today my brain is squeezing tight and the concentration is half there.  

 

This is how I explained it to woody1981

 

Lately with meditation and learning my way around the symptoms I have been able to watch my  brain go crazy looking for something to latch on to when I am anxious.  It's like my brain had eyes and it was franticly going back and forth looking for something,🙄 what am I afraid of, why am I so anxious there most be something here I can latch on to.  And low and behold some times it finds something for me to stress and ruminate over. 🥴  So ah ha  I now know  what to expect when my brain is searching for something to latch on to.  Wait for it, wait for it  there it is, okay that's just a thought and I don't have to follow it.😖  Sometimes it works and sometimes it don't.  Just keep clomping along one day at a time.

 

I am starting to get @Mia1 when see  talks about seeing your thought etc. and telling yourself this is how I am in WD this is not me and to roll with it. But it is so hard to not fight the symptoms and  worry that am I going to get over the paranoia, ocd, obsessions,  and the depression when it strikes.   This one is hard to not take personal.  Anxiety is a uncomfortable feeling but depression is a crushing, thought and feeling.  The will to plow through it is astounding.  Thank goodness it lift's at times, even almost all the way gone. 

 

You have been pretty quite, how are you doing?  I guess I will go check you thread and see if you are around❤️

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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1 hour ago, Greatful said:

is crazy how the brain is so mixed up,  The mood swings yesterday put me on a wild ride. 

Panicky, then depressed, then angry then okay  then cocky feeling then back to anger.  Now today my brain is squeezing tight and the concentration is half there.  

I can relate to this, you just never know how your going to be, every hour is different.

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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