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Sisu.  Another Finnish member told me it means guts.  We have guts.  Both sides are pretty pure Finns for me, a couple generations back.  It's cool.   I'm a Minnesota born Finn too, Greatful.  We moved when I was 3 ish, but do love the State a lot.  Lake Superior.  All the Lakes and trees. 

 

And hello Greatful,

 

So I am looking at Notes, and all of your history since arrival here too.  So, do please bear with me, or have patience.  I get obsessive, in a good way I'd say, a bit around members when I decide to look at their stuff.  Sometimes I cannot just go with the here and today.  Kind of comes from what I used to do a bit, and just because.  It can't hurt.

 

And okay, good job Greatful.  Do you want to go to day 3 with the Notes?

Then we could line them all up again, and see if there are patterns.

What we want to see is the symptoms before and after each drug, throughout the 24 hour period.

Was there anytime too, in either 24 hour period, that was almost symptom free, or relatively calm?  A minute, an hour, anything?

 

Right now I see, what appear to be early morning awakenings, cortisol awakenings, and a ton of "anxiety" like symptoms- panics off and on, squeezing head, etc.  throughout pretty much the whole day.

Great that from 10 pm to 4:30 you actually do get to sleep.  I mean all things considered.

 

 

I do like your descriptions Greatful, that are below the drug and symptom logs-  I think just using your descriptions like those right in the  Notes might help a bit.  I think if you are calmish, but feeling a squeezing head or something, then note that too.  I don't know if that is clear, but so many symptoms that I don't know what to think.

 

@Frogie, Do you see anything with the Xanax?  I notice that dosing is split over 2 doses 12 hours or greater apart.  I pulled out a couple sections from the afternoons below.

 

Thursday, or the 13th of December:

10 hours ago, Greatful said:

3pm- Buzzing in brain and body '  5/10  Brain sore and tight on top

4"30pm  Magnesium 100mg

5pm-  Dinner  and Omega 3 symptoms are about the same but at 3/10

6pm-  Brain really squeezing

 

Good response to magnesium, but then by 6 pm, brain really squeezing.

I mean, any chance this is related to the Xanax wearing off?  Interdose withdrawal?

Presently it's .0625 mg xanax at 7 or 7:30 am and then all the way until 8:30 pm for the second dose of .0625 mg.

 

And then, on Friday the 14th  (today is the 15th Greatful, easy mistake to make, today being Saturday, personally, I like just dates like the numbers so I know which day is which, and then can see which day you post them on readily enough)

10 hours ago, Greatful said:

5:30 Anxiety 6/10 panic 6/10

6:60 Buzzing/static through body and arms and legs 6/10

7pm- crushing/ burning/cold brain. 7/10 These sensation are on the move around my brain all day            everyday and intensity will very. for 2 to 10

 

The numbers really went up, the ratings on Friday, and so that is why I'd kind of like to see more NOTES too, and get a better feel for all the symptoms you describe.  Some of that dizzy, and brain half dead feelings might be due just due to the basic over-medication situation that you are in now.  Yet, as you know, we can't just whip you off anything.

 

What is really hard for me to get any kind of feel for, right now, is that the current 2 day picture we have now, is due to fast metabolism of your escitalopram/Lexapro.  I wonder how that would play out beyond what you've been told, as far as symptoms go.  So far, your symptoms are all day, up and down rating, and a variety of symptoms too.

You did say 10 was the worst, in your rating scale 1 good and 10 bad.  That was helpful.

 

10 hours ago, Greatful said:

The inner shaking and buzzing range from 2 to 7 most days.   

Extreme dizzy when standing  comes and go from day to day and will be as bad as 2 to 10

My over all depression is now more of a low mood that from 2/10 to 5/10

Reg anxiety is coming down from day to day to  3/10 to 7/10

 I also have noticed I can hardly do anything without physical I get to over stimulated and the brain/body goes nuts.🥴

 

 spring my symptoms  hovered  between a 8/10 to 8/10 with symptoms.

 

 now around 4/10 to 7/10   When I am at my worst in doesn't seem to last as many days, if I take care of myself and lay around. 

 

So you have actually improved a bit since the Spring.  Which is when you began tapering your Lexapro/escitalopram below 5 mg.  So that's good.

Brain body going nuts......not fun, hopefully it will improve soon enough.

 

Okay, and @Frogie again, and I'm sorry to tag anyone twice in one post, but I am just now reviewing late Spring, early Summer in Greatful's Introduction.  Wondering what happened with the Xanax plan back then, and the schedule.  I don't know if you could summarize changes from then to now, or not, but I would be most grateful if you could.

 

I got up to, where the Lexapro was moved forward, or earlier in the day too, and so am just hoping if we all agree on any helpfulness, that might come about from a split dose, that we don't split out the 2nd dose, too far into the evening.......as, like I said that 10 pm until 4:30 a.m. sleep stretch sounds good right now.   And I don't want to move even a bit of, what is usually a more stimulating drug, to close to bedtime or too close to the Trazodone.   Not great to have 4:30 cortisol awakenings I'm sure, but 6 and 1/2 blessed hours of sleep has got to be helpful for Greatful now.

 

And what did you think of your drug interaction report Greatful?  You never did say.  Thanks for doing it.  I think it stinks, there are duplications, and interactions.  One is Major interaction.  How is it going with your doctor or prescriber now?  I mean I am hoping well enough.  Also hoping for the best for you too, and wanting to learn and all, so you eventually feel really empowered along with your Sisu.  You know,  that matters to me a lot.  Empowered meaning that sense in yourself that you know exactly what you are doing and why.  Thank goodness for the Mia1's or your angel here too!  I might have got the name wrong.

 

Oh sheesh, and one last question, if you have gotten this far and that is this.  Is that head pressure, squeezing any worse since your multiple losses, the deaths?  And that overwhelm that you mention, any worse since the deaths?  No doubt in my mind that your losses are like a huge stress occurrence now, and possibly for some time.  Not a lot that you can do about that either.  I mean, my heart goes out to you.

 

If this feels like too, too much right now too......further evaluation with NOTES and all......just say so.  I don't have any problem, if you decide to start the transition to liquid Lexapro/escitalopram.  I mean just one change(as you know we don't like anyone doing multiple changes at once).  And to see if you can adjust and adapt to that.  It will make the rest of the Lexapro taper easier I think with a liquid.

 

Okay, and all from me, and plenty of it, for tonight,

Best, L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

 

 

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Hi @Greatful,

 

I can look at the gene test results if you like. Just have to head to work right now, but I can go over things when I get home. Hope you are feeling better soon : )

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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@manymoretodays

 

We did set up the Xanax every 12 hours because it was in 1 dose.

 

We could try splitting the doses into 3 and see it that helps.

 

What do you think @Greatful?

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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@manymoretodays@Frogie

Oh boy, I see from my notes that I forgot to put in that I take .0625mgia of Xanax everyday at 2pm also.  Not sure how I missed adding that. So to clarify I take is at 7am 2pm and 8:30pm.  All .0625mgia.  Frogie we set this up last I think July.  

 

I do have some let up during the day.  I think the early mornings are the hardest and as the day goes on I can feel better.   I get so easily stimulated, it can be from reading, being on SA, watching TV, making supper, trying to hold a conversation.  When I do then yes the brain starts to squeeze/hurt more.  As I am typing my brain is burning/cold on the back left side and left temple is hurts, buzzing in the back.  My thoughts are clear but blunted.  Like hitting a wall with trying to think  thought/idea all the way though.  

 

 I just need someone to unplug me from the electric outlet and stop squeezing, burning and buzzing my brain.  lol  "Oh if only I had a brain" that worked right.........

 

I did have a increase of everything the month of Dec and the deaths in my family.  Things are settling down a little bit there.  But brain issues have always been there.  I can say the intensity has decreased for the most part.  I've even had a few times that I barely notice it.  

So yes I do have bits and pieces an hour here and there that I feel almost human.  I keep telling hubby that I feel like I am getting closer to me.   

 

I am unhappy with all the drugs that I am on.   I do not see that Doctor anymore.  My new one is open to help me get off Lexapro.  As of now I think she is willing to work with me to get to a better spot.   

 

I think I will start the turn over to liquid tomorrow and see where that goes.  As you say my symptoms are all over the place somedays. I have to keep the stress and stimulation down as much as I can.  I don't know that we can do anything different at this time other than keep moving forward.  Move to liquid and then see if I can start to reduce it again.  How stable is stable to do that.  

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Greatful

 

That's good. I thought we set it up for 3 times a day, but thought maybe I was wrong. I do forget if I don't write everything down. So, my apologies. Glad that was straightened out.

 

I know it is so hard not to read into everything. I do that all the time.

 

With everything that happened to you in December, no wonder you were/are on edge. That is perfectly normal. Even individuals that don't take this stuff find your situation very difficult to deal with. I think you did really well for everything that went on and the holidays on top of it.

 

Maybe the liquid will help and you'll find some relief. You might think about doing a split dose on it since you can measure it more precise. 

 

I had a therapist that I miss dearly, but we moved. She used to say, unfortunately you have to push on one day at a time, one hour at a time, one minute at a time, and one second at a time. You just have to chose what is best for you at that moment. I still use the second one a lot.

 

Keep me posted what you decide and if I can help you anymore. You will come out of this, it just takes time.

 

Hang in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi @Greatful,

 

Did you post your genesite test somewhere? I can have a look if you like.

 

Sorry for your losses :(. Can only get better from here, though : )

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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@DataGuy  Thank you so  much for looking at this for me.  l appreciate it so much that you might be able to help me figure this out.  Both the lex and the Lamictal are in the red for me.

 

This is only the information that applies to me (my drugs)  The file was to big to sent the whole report.  Let me know if you need anything else 

 

Thanks again dateguy for helping me and all the others on this site

 

Heidi_GS_3A.pdf

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Greatful

 

I love the avatar! Is that your baby?

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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@Frogie  Yes she  (Matty) is my buddy.   

Oh boy frogie.....I started the switch to liquid.  On Monday day 1 I was so worried to get the doses right that I missed taking my Lamictal, I noticed and took it about 5 hours later.....

Needless to say yesterday day 2 was not a good day.  I am keeping daily note to see how it goes and if you guys need them in a few days if things go south.  I am worried that I will metabolize the liquid even faster than the powder??????  I know that's looking for trouble worrying ahead of time.   I am hoping dataguy can answer some questions.   Like if I metabolize so fast does that mean I have lower amounts in my blood stream over all.   Which in turn would I have even less sert in my blood stream then some one else on the this dosage.

 

Let me just say it is beyond belief the amount of misery and brain dysfunction that you go through because you took these drugs.......I don't think I have every felt so half human.  It feels like you could go insane at anytime.  Do you think I will ever stabilize while on these drugs.  You know how it is the doubts, and fear, that constantly plague you.

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Grateful

 

She is so cute! I have a little chiweenie named Delilah. I think there is a picture of her on the Pets topic. You should post a picture over there.

 

6 minutes ago, Greatful said:

started the switch to liquid.  On Monday day 1 I was so worried to get the doses right that I missed taking my Lamictal, I noticed and took it about 5 hours later.....

It's ok, at lease you remembered. When you start something new, sometimes you forget other things. I do that a lot.

 

7 minutes ago, Greatful said:

I am keeping daily note to see how it goes and if you guys need them in a few days if things go south.  I am worried that I will metabolize the liquid even faster than the powder??????  I know that's looking for trouble worrying ahead of time. 

You will metabolize faster, which means it will move through your bloodstream faster. That's why @DataGuyis talking about splitting your dose. But don't worry, we will get it figured out for you.

 

11 minutes ago, Greatful said:

Let me just say it is beyond belief the amount of misery and brain dysfunction that you go through because you took these drugs.......I don't think I have every felt so half human.  It feels like you could go insane at anytime.  Do you think I will ever stabilize while on these drugs.  You know how it is the doubts, and fear, that constantly plague you.

These medications are beyond belief in my opinion, just as yours. I think you will stabilize and I think it will be easier on the liquid because you can get more precise amounts. I stabilized a lot faster on the liquid than I ever would have staying on the powder if that helps. Just take a deep breath, you're going to be ok. I have faith in this if that helps.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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1 hour ago, Greatful said:

Let me just say it is beyond belief the amount of misery and brain dysfunction that you go through because you took these drugs......

Dear, dear @Greatful

I feel strongly that you will heal from all this, but meanwhile, your words ring so true.  Unbelievable--

Hugs all round you,

Arbor

Zoloft: 1995 - 2015

Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on  December 15, 2018

Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019  (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019

Enalapril: 2010 - 2019

Lipitor: 2017 -2017

Metformin: 2000 - 2020

Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019

Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022

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@arbor  Thank You arber for reaching out,  I know that you are in your own pain right now.  

Knowing I am not alone.  We all can heal is a much needed validation from time to time.

Hugs back to you🤗

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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Let me just say it is beyond belief the amount of misery and brain dysfunction that you go through because you took these drugs.......I don't think I have every felt so half human.  It feels like you could go insane at anytime.  Do you think I will ever stabilize while on these drugs.  You know how it is the doubts, and fear, that constantly plague you.

 

 

 

 

You can do it @Grateful, If I can, you can as well !

To be honest I think, there should be made more thinking / studies regarding the meds that provoke adverse effects in relation to stabilization. I am in the same spot like you, had adverse effects from them since day 1 (but yeah, convinced to stay on them and benzo covered it) and also ultra-rapid metabolizer of same enzyme. Did not see you stabilized much or at all staying couple of months on same dosage, seen the same things for me, not as long as you but still, maybe there should be a faster taper in this situation, of course, still, careful but more faster.

 

I really hope liquid taper will help you, I will try it as well maybe.

27/04/21 Escitalopram x 2.5mg Clonazepam 0.375 mg | 14/05/21 Escitalopram x 5mg Clonazepam x 0.5 mg | 30/05/21 Escitalopram x 7.5mg Clonazepam x 0.375 mg | 14/06/21 Escitalopram x 10mg Clonazepam x 0.25 mg | 27/08/21  Escitalopram x 5mg Clonazepam x 0.5 mg |

28/08/21 Escitalopram x 5mg Clonazepam x 0.475 mg | 04/09/21 Escitalopram x 5mg Clonazepam x 0.4 mg | 09/09/21 Escitalopram x 5mg Clonazepam x 0.35 mg | 14/09/21  Escitalopram x 5 mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 14/10/2021 Escitalopram x 4mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 22/10/21 Escitalopram x 4.5mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 19/11/21 Escitalopram x 4mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 29/12/21 Escitalopram x 3.92 mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 2/1/2022 Escitalopram x 3.84 mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 7/1/2022 Escitalopram x 3.76 mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 7/1/2022 Escitalopram x 3.76 mg Clonazepam x 0.3 mg | 17/05/22  Escitalopram x 3.36 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 12/06/22 Escitalopram x 2.92 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 01/08/22 Escitalopram x 2.61 mg Diazepam x 14 mg |  29/08/22 Escitalopram x 2.46 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 1/11/22 Escitalopram x 2 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 28/11/22 Escitalopram x 1.61 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 09/01/23 Escitalopram x 1.30 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 09/02/23 Escitalopram x 1 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 09/03/23 Escitalopram x 0.76 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 09/04/23 Escitalopram x 0.54 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 08/05/23 Escitalopram x 0.31 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 06/06/23 Escitalopram x 0.15 mg Diazepam x 14 mg | 04/07/23 Lexapro FREE Diazepam x 14 mg | 10/09/23 Lexapro FREE Diazepam x 13 mg | 02/10/23 Diazepam x 12 mg |  23/10/23 Diazepam x 10 mg | 

 

 

 

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On 1/18/2022 at 1:49 PM, Greatful said:

@DataGuy  Thank you so  much for looking at this for me.  l appreciate it so much that you might be able to help me figure this out.  Both the lex and the Lamictal are in the red for me.

 

This is only the information that applies to me (my drugs)  The file was to big to sent the whole report.  Let me know if you need anything else 

 

Thanks again dateguy for helping me and all the others on this site

 

Heidi_GS_3A.pdf 1.75 MB · 6 downloads

 

Thanks @Greatful. Yes, does look like possible 'ultrarapid metabolism' for lamictal and escitalopram, but important to note it is only on one enzyme for each. The report says "the patient may have increased enzyme activity as compared to individuals with the normal phenotype". Not exactly a definitive statement. So it is possible fluctuating levels of the medication could be causing problems, but also possible it is having no effect. May be because 'genotypes' are not always expressed the same way as a trait in the physical world (the phenotype), hence the uncertainty in their statement. So it is possible dose splitting could help, but also possible it won't. If it doesn't, there are still plenty of other things we can do to help. Up to you whether you want to give it a try. 

 

Good that you are taking daily notes. Especially important to note when you feel better or worse. Might help us notice some sort of pattern. Hope things keep getting better : )

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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And hi from me too Greatful,

Symptoms still pretty intense at times it sounds like.  Oooh.

And yah, for sure, you're going to get more of a WD stability than what you are experiencing now.

Without a doubt.  You'll get there.

You probably won't even remember this time.  You'll have to read your Introduction Journaling to remember.

 

And yes, I'm happy you are still keeping NOTES, and go ahead and post a couple days again all at once......I like 3 in a row.  (always pressing for more, I know, I know)

 

I'd like to see them again, with all your xanax doses accounted for, along with the rest.  Don't be afraid to note when you feel more symptom free, or even good......even if it's brief.  And then any non-drug coping too, put it in there, to the right of the times.  Even things like talked or typed to a friend, or support.  And if in the next time after that you are improved, you'll start to gain confidence in your coping.

You've got a lot to juggle right now.  Your meds alone are a lot.  So cut your expectations some slack.

 

I'm glad you ARE on  the 3X/day with the xanax too.......that ommission kind of threw me, and I hyperfocused on that......even though you were taking some doses not written down in the first shared Notes.

 

You can prove to other members that Notes are fun, notes are not a drag or a burden, Notes are so helpful......blah, blah, blah. 

 

I like your avatar too!!!  I am very boring and bland....actually could never figure out an avatar way back, and am fond of my blue M, at this point.

 

I trust you are doing the good formula as you cross over to liquid Lexapro now?

 

Cross Over: Changing form(eg tablet to liquid) of drug OR changing brand of same drug

And you can stay as long as needed in any phase of it too, no need to rush.

 

You know maybe the Notes will help you know better how you are adjusting.  Most do fine with the change in absorption from solid to liquid.  And doing it gradually I think really helps the body get used to the adjustment.

 

Okay healing Greatful.  We are grateful for Greatful!  😀

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

🐱B)🧐💜

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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@Frogie  @manymoretodaysI need help.  I am really scared.  

today is day 6 of

1/4 liquid  1mgai of escitalopram (Camber brand)

 3/4 powder  3.2mgai (lupin brand)

I hope I make sense here.....This happened about 10:30 this morning  I take the lex and lamictal at 8am

I had  violent thoughts and angry towards my husband and that I will show him in my thought of putting a gun to my head, then it went to  cold/distain  feelings towards one of my baby granddaughters and cold feelings toward her mother, my daughter.  Just thinking about being around my granddaughter, I was scared I would strike out at her.

I  looked back at on my thread here and I had strong thoughts of violence towards my son and  myself.    This was on Nov.  25th about 9 days after my 10% cut of escitalopram.  What happened today is 6 days after starting the switch.   Do you think my body thinks it is a decrease in doses if I am metabolizing the liquid faster?  The crazy thing is my brain feels clearer.  And seems to with each cut

 

Are the drugs my problem?  Should I taper off the lexapro faster.

My hubby and I are lost....I hate these drugs and what they have turned me into.  They never took care of the anxiety.  Slowly turned me angry and withdrawn.  Now I am stuck.....I can't stabilize if I am in adverse reaction, switch to another ssri send my brain into orbit with new chemicals  Ct the Lex and run the risk of never finding myself.  

 

I am shaking and distraught over this.  But my brain is clearer and it only hurts a little on the top5.5  hours after my 8am doses of lex and lamictal.  Still have inner shaking and buzzing in my  body and weak muscles  

 

What advice do you have....I do have 5 days of notes I can send you.  I just wanted to tell you about this.   Scared the heck out of me

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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Hi @Greatful

I’m so sorry you are experiencing crazy withdrawal thoughts. I know they can be very disturbing and hard to escape. They are only thoughts. Are you able to do anything to distract yourself?

 

So glad your husband is there for you. We are fortunate to both have loving husbands in our corner.

 

Try as best you can to relax your body and just breath. Praying for you.

 

Hugs,

 

Believer

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

2015 Straight switch to Wellbutrin by GP who claimed Zoloft stopped working; I was experiencing occasional brain zaps. 3 months later Wellbutrin  XR. Highly activating. Lost ability to sleep. Seroquel x3 nights. Horrible reaction. Straight switch back to Zoloft, began taper. Found SA  after tapering 25 mgs a week to 25mgs and began experiencing W/D.

6/21/19 5.05 mg; 9/6/19 4.8 mg; 4/24/20 4.57 mg; 8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg; 11/26/21 3.93 mg; 4/15/22 3.74 mg; 6/3/22 3.54 mg; 8/5/22 3.38; 9/30/22 3.19; 11/18/22 3.03; 12/30/22 2.88; 2/17/23 2.74; 3/24/23 2.60; 5/12/23 2.47;  6/23/23 2.35; 8/11/23 2.24; 9/15/23 2.13; 10/20/23 2.02; 11/24/23 1.92; 1/12/24 1.83; 2/17/24 1.72; 3/23/24 1.64

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium, Vitamin C Vitamin D during winter.

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@Frogie

I'm having such mood swings......I went and meditated for well over an hour and I felt the shift to very low mood come in.  My brain is hurting like usual again.  Do you get low moods where you feel so negative and sad  but still have the anxiety running through your body, you are restless but depresses at the same time.   

 

Okay that's my vent.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Greatful yes you can get both aniexty and depression at the same time. You just changed to liquid and I remember when I did that I had worse symptoms to start with . I know how scary this is, but we’re here for you . Minute by minute hun❤️

1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg until 2014

-2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg Seraquel

-2015 tried tapering again and crashed

 

Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 6% per month doing daily micro-taper 

Guided by Mark Horowitz

24/09/23  14.47mg Seroquel.  16.19mg Paxil 

27/11/23.  12.13mg. Seroquel.   13.85mg Paxil

 

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@Greatful

 

That is really normal to have depressive and anxiety symptoms all at once. I think your body is metabolizing the liquid pretty quickly.

 

I had a lot of (I'll call them episodes), where I saw guns at my head and guns that I pulled on other people. I don't know why. I wish I could answer that question for you.

 

Since it's been 6 days, I would try 1/2 liquid and 1/2 tablet, if you feel comfortable doing it. But I would split the 1/2 liquid into 2 doses and spread it about 8 hours apart. Don't take the lamictal at the same time. Spread it out an hour between each other. Lamictal can also give you those "angry" symptoms. It did with me bad. They ct'd me off of it and I don't recommend that at all. That wasn't fun. Maybe try 3-4 days of doing that and then switch to 3/4 liquid and 1/4 tablet. Wait 3-4 days and switch all to liquid and see if that works. If at anytime you feel you can't switch that fast then stop and go a bit slower. Once we get you on all liquid we can do a fast taper after you hold for a couple of weeks if needed.

 

I know it's scary. But it's the medication and you recognize that which is a good sign. 

 

Keep up the meditation and read lots of success stories.

 

Hang in there. We will get you on the right track.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Greatful,

 

8 hours ago, Greatful said:

I  looked back at on my thread here and I had strong thoughts of violence towards my son and  myself.    This was on Nov.  25th about 9 days after my 10% cut of escitalopram.  What happened today is 6 days after starting the switch.   Do you think my body thinks it is a decrease in doses if I am metabolizing the liquid faster?  The crazy thing is my brain feels clearer.  And seems to with each cut

 

Are the drugs my problem?  Should I taper off the lexapro faster.

 

Likely yes, that the drugs are part of this reaction.  After the first go round with a similar symptom or pattern of thought.......did it stop once you HELD steady with the dose change that time?

 

Yes, I'd love to see Notes again Greatful.  Please post.  Just go ahead and post a couple days worth whenever you have them.  Post them separate from the narratives, that keeps them clearer, when we look at them.

 

I'm just looking at your drug interaction report again, so I might as well post the link here again too:

https://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=133-54,1013-0,2228-0,1430-848&types[]=major&types[]=minor&types[]=moderate&types[]=food&types[]=therapeutic_duplication&professional=1

 

And yes, separate the Lamictal from the escitalopram please.  Why were you taking them together?

 

Give me a run down of positives too now Greatful.  Maybe that will neutralize the scary a bit.  You posted, and you posted honest......that IS positive I think.  I think it's good to be real.  You meditated.  (it did not have the outcome you wanted of peace and quiet in the thought department, but you meditated)  Did you do a guided meditation? If not, maybe that will help to do a guided audio next.
Easing your way into meditation for a stressed out nervous system

Relaxation exercises, guided meditations, calming videos, sleep hypnosis

 

Music for self-care

 

(((((((Greatful)))))))

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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@Frogie @manymoretodays

 

Yes the violent thoughts went away after  a few days from that drop in November.

I would every once in awhile get quick anger that would last less then a hour. But I would not get such violent thoughts with them. 

 

I should also mention that there is still stress with With the death of my brother and father.  I was notified if I wanted to go to the family house to look and see if there is anything I wanted......I knew this was coming.  We will be selling the house now that both parents have passed away.

There is some trauma from childhood that is really coming up in WD.  

 

As far as meditation  I do a  guided one first and then I listen to meditation music and sit in my thoughts and try to just obverse them and accept the feelings.  I usually do this during the day sometime.

I've been trying do the mediation music and sit in thoughts in the evening before bed.

 

To try and be positive with affirmations.  I go on little errands to stores out for lunch with hubby when I think I am strong enough to do it.  Yesterday  I went for a drive to get out of the house because I was so panicky and getting depressed,(I  choose not to go to the family house yesterday) so I was a little stressed over if I should go or not, so I went for a drive instead. ( I usually  enjoy going for drives)  that's when the crazy thoughts started.

the moods are moving through me fast..

 

Thank You Frogie for letting me know that these violent thoughts are apart of WD.  They are so scary.  The intensity and realness of them makes me worry that "what if my brain/thoughts get so strong and will they make me do it. I have no control"

 

I will start the 1/2 & 1/2 today   8am  I took 1mgai of liquid and 2.2mgai of powder and I will take the lamictal at 9am and the other 1mgai of liquid lex at 4pm ( I hope it doesn't over activate and affect my sleep.

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Frogie @manymoretodays

1-17-2022 Monday  start of switch from powder to liquid

The day started out rough.   I pushed myself going out on Sat and Sun 

4am-  anxiety, Brain panic, fear, obsessing

5am- Magnesium 100mg

7am- Xanax .0625magi  Anxiety 6/10--  brain squeezing 8/10-- inner buzzing throughout the body 5/10-- Crying Melt down

8am- Lexapro   1mgai of liquid  3.20mgai of powder  day1 of the switch   Breakfast

10am--Brain squeezing/hurts/burns 6/10--  buzzing/tingling in body 2/10-- Weak muscles and shaky  Very dizzy when I stand up

11:30am-  Lunch

1pm- lamictal 37.5mgai I noticed I  missed  taking it at 8am (to worried about getting the doses right for the lexapro)

1pm- meditate

2pm- Xanax .0625mgai  Brain squeeze 8/10 weak muscles 5/10 body buzzing 4/10

2:30pm- Magnesium 100mg

3pm- went to store & car wash to get out of the house  Over stimulated by the time I got home  8/10

4:30pm- Everything calmed down to but the brain still hurts 7/10 Low mood 3/10

5pm - Dinner  felling okay but still have brain and low mood most everything is at a 3/10  dirty window ha ha

8:30pm- Xanax .0625mgai all symptoms the same 3/10  Feeling okay

9:30pm- Trazodone 25mg and a pinch of melatonin .1mg or 65mgpw

Meditation/quiet time 

I don't see my omega probiotic or vitamin c on my notes Not sure if I remembered them?

 

1-18-2022 Tuesday

Restless night

4am- brain panic 8/10 anxiety   d/r 3/10,  brain crushing in on top 8/10

4:30am magnesium 100mg

5:30am small  decreases in symptoms  

7am- Xanax .0625mgai         Weak and sore muscles 6/10 

8am- Lexapro 1mgai liquid  3.20 mgai powder   Lamictal  37.5mgai  breakfast   

      anxiety 8/10-- brain panic  8/10 --inner shaking 7/10-- brain numb/burning/squeezing in on top-- 7/10  panting 6/10

10am- meditate  still anxiety and brain hurts on top

11:30 Lunch    Omega 3, vitamin c, probiotic         weak 4/10,  shaky in and out of body and tense 5/10--  anxiety 5/10

1pm- generic Tylenol 500mg     Brain crushing in on top 8/10  inner shaking, anxiety, buzzing in body 5/10

2pm- Xanax .0625mgai     Same as above

5pm- magnesium 100mg - dinner Same as above

8pm symptoms decrease to around 3or 4/10 but mental fatigue sets in

8:30pm- Xanax .0625mgai  Loosing energy and will 

9:30pm- Trazodone 25mg and pinch of melatonin      Melt down   took awhile to fall asleep after melt down.

 

1-19-2021   Wednesday

Restless sleep

4am brain buzzing and squeezing in,   dr,  feeling hopeless

5am- magnesium 100mg

7am- Xanax .0625mgai 

8am- Lexapro 1mgai of liquid  3.20mgai of powder    Lamictal 37.5 mgai   Breakfast  Same as above  plus inner shaking 5/10

10am Therapy appt.  Brain scrambled from to much talking 

12pm- lunch     burning brain 5/10  other symptoms down 3/10

1pm- meditation   all symptoms down to 3/10 feel okay

3pm magnesium 100mg  

3:30 make dinner get over stimulate in a fog weak and fatigued

5pm- dinner  feel under the weather mood going down  most bothersome is the brain burning and sore spotsl

6pm- heading south ---brain hurts 6/10 weak sore muscles feel sick 6/10-- Panic starts 4/10-- buzzing in body 5/10

7am-  brain and body panic 8/10   

went to bed under all my covers and weighted blankets and put on meditation music and laid in my thoughts I did get up to take 

8:30pm Xanax .0625  back to bed feeling calmer

9:30pm Trazodone 25mgai and a pinch of melatonin back to bed and switched to my white noise I set for sleep.

I think I took my omega, C and pro sometime today  I didn't write if down  brain is to disconnected

 

 1-20-2022   Thursday

I slept the soundest and straight through to 4:45am    What 's that all about 

4:45pm-  brain panic 5/10 anxiety 3/10  took magnesium 100mg

7am- Xanax .0625mgai        Brain numb & pressure on top   emotional tired mood sinking

8am-  Lexapro  1mgai of liquid  3.20mgai of powder     37.5mgai of Lamictal    Breakfast ---- brain numb/squeezing 7/10- Fatigue 5/10

9:30am- still weak 6/10-- Fatigue 7/10-- brain burning/squeezing  3/10

11am-- emotional brake down

12pm Lunch--omega, c, pro    feeling a little better symptoms down to 3/10

1pm- meditate 

2pm Xanax .0625mgai back to meditation

2:30 brain Squeezing  6/10--Fatigue 4/10-- weak muscles 5/10--

5pm- Dinner omega, c, pro    Fatigue 4/10--brain hurt on top 6/10--weak 4/10  

6pm- Brain hurts 6/10  panic--5/10  buzzing in the body 4/10

8:30 Xanax .0625mgai   same 

9:30 Trazodone 25mgai and a pinch of melatonin  sam

 

1-21-2022   Friday

Up a lot at night  Worry about going to family home to look at if I  want anything

4am magnesium 100mg 

5am-  headache 7/10  brain thinking I'm going crazy (not the first time this has happened ha ha)  Anxiety 8/10

7am- Xanax .0625mgai     Fatigued  5/10---Same as above  low mood/tired/body feels heavy 7/10--

8am- Lexapro 1mgai liquid  3.20mgai of powder-- breakfast---Anxiety/tense  6/10--Brain squeezing 7/70

9:3am- Brain still the same   now it's cold/burning in spots 2/10--brain panic need to escape 3/10--Weak muscles 6/10--Fatigue body heavy

!0:30am  out on errand with hubby and lunch

1am-back home a  mess  brain a mess 6/10--- brain and body panic 6/10-- Anxiety 6/10 Shaky in and out of body 7/10--weak 7/10

 Tried to meditate  not going well

2pm Xanax .0625mgai  back to meditation until

3pm -still not doing well.  very low mood   shaky 7/10--headache 7/10--Buzzing through the body 7/10-- low mood 5/10--

  Magnesium 100mg

5pm- anxiety/panic down to 3/10--body buzzing/inner shaking down 4/10  brain Squeeze 5/10  low mood 4/10  this is like a dirty window for me.

5-7pm here on SA looking in the media part for information and acknowledge for me and maybe send to my old doctor.

      all symptoms around 3 or 4/10   low mood at 2/10  feeling okay 

8pm talking with hubby brain and body buzzing go up to 6/10 over stimulated ugh

8:30pm- Xanax .0625mgai  meditate with med music

9:30pm- Trazodone 25mgai and a pinch of magnesium 

white noise 

I see I missed taking my omega pro and c again   ugh  I was trying to separate taking them with lex and lamictal

 

1-22-2022   Saturdaty

Restless night up a few times

4am- magnesium-   brain buzzing hurts 8/10--panic 5/10--Anxiety 8/10

7am- Xanax .0625mgai  Weak/sore muscles a  anxiety 6/10

8am- lexapro 1mgai of liquid  3.2mgai of powder    Lamictal 37.5mgai    All symptoms above plus very low mood  7/10

9am--omego  C  Probiatic

9:30am  go for my drive and become crazy.......Horrible thoughts of shooting myself in the head to show hubby how awful this is knew I couldn't do that to him so pointed it at my foot,  then it goes to distain and anger towards one of my baby granddaughters and anger to her mother ( my daughter)  scared to see them I might the baby.  I felt cold and angry inside

Went home and talked with hubby for quite awhile and posted on SA

2pm- Xanax .0625mgai  meditate until 3:30    Now very low mood 8/10--  brain hurting 6/10--very negative thoughts,-

buzzing in body 4/10-- shaky/ anxiety/ 5/10--  magnesium 100mg

5pm  very low mood 9/10   brain buzzing/hurts 6/10-  weak inner and out body shaking/tense 5/10 body buzzing and anxiety 5/10 

restless, but can't do anything stuck

6pm dinner everything goes down to 3 or 4/10  some dr    Just felt out of it all day   

8:30pm- Xanax .0625mgai  same as above

9:30pm- Trazodone  25mgai  and a pinch of melatonin 

Over all day was disconnected and thoughts were out there crazy about dying, 

 

 

Side note: I don't even put in when I have numb face, this moves from side to side, noise sensitivity, burning eyes or nose    this all moves around so much that I would be writing on and on

 

Let me know if I am missing anything  so hard to keep track of so much

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Greatful

 

I'm glad the violent episodes have passed. I don't know why, but like I said I had them too. Now I have really weird, and I mean weird dreams of babies and I'm 58! I just think it's part of the brain remodeling.

 

I do notice a pattern on the Xanax. After you take it, you seem to have Brain and muscle tension. I wonder if you would want to try a small taper of the Xanax and see if that might improve a little? If you look at your notes, it seems to happen around the Xanax time. I know some of it is the Lexapro. And I think once you are on all liquid some of it will dissipate also.

 

You're handling all of this really well despite the family things that are going on. I wish you peace and harmony in that. 

 

Let me know your thoughts on the Xanax and we can address it.

 

Hang in there.

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PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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@Frogie

thanks so much for you support and patience.

I think I will wait until I am switched all the way over to the liquid.  I am changing brand, to liquid and now splitting the dose of the lex

 

This is crazy        I spent the morning slowly getting better.  Went out for lunch with hubby and got way stimulated but I actually made it through the lunch before my brain went to the can crusher and the anxiety went through the roof. lol      got home and shortly later went to meditate became manic  super happy and jumping out of my skin

meditated and settle down took about close to an hour.  Now feeling the closes to normal, I can't remember how long it's been since I felt this way. Still have brain pain but feeling okay.

Now that being said I took my second 1mg liquid lex close to an hour ago....It's like waiting for the next wave of craziness.......

 

Hey you and I are the same age.....I have dreams of being PG at times.  At least those are dreams and we know that ain't going to happen lol

 

I'm taking note, things are going to only get better.............

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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@Greatful

 

That's what we are all her for is to help and support each other. 

 

It sounds like you had a pretty good day. You got to go out to lunch with hubby! I'd count that as a win. Meditation seems to help you, that's great. Do what works for you. 

 

We will all think positive for you that you don't have the can crusher in your brain. Hopefully, fingers, toes and eyes even crossed that this liquid is going to work and going to 2 doses a day will help stabilize you.

 

I can understand you wanting to wait on the Xanax, I don't blame you. But when you feel the time is right, let me know and I'll help you.

 

I thought I was A LOT older than you! I had a dream that I had a baby boy. When you feel like it I'll PM you the details, you'll get a kick out of it🤣

 

You just keep trucking along. You will get there. 

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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This is crazy        I spent the morning slowly getting better.  Went out for lunch with hubby and got way stimulated but I actually made it through the lunch before my brain went to the can crusher and the anxiety went through the roof. lol      got home and shortly later went to meditate became manic  super happy and jumping out of my skin

Grateful,

 

I am glad to hear you made it through this period...you just went through it and came out the other side...did not react to the thoughts - huge achievement.  As an aside your husband sounds like a wonderful person.   

 

Oaktree

Currently tapering Mirtazapine; previously tapered Cymbalta 30mg from June 2018-Feb 2019 and Seroquel 150mg to zero from Oct-December 2020.

Supplements for Hashimoto's disease and histamine issues relating to Mirtazapine:   Vitamin D3 1,000mcg, bio-identical HRT, Selenium, Quercetin, Lutein, Zinc, Vitamin C, Omega 3.

Mirtazapine Taper: 2021 16th Aug -  transitioned to liquid from tablet by dissolving two 15mg tablets into a solution of 15 ml water and 15 ml maple syrup on a starting dose of what I thought was 7.5ml; 17 Sept  - 7.31; 24 Sept  - 7.13; 15 Oct  - 6.95; 6 Nov  - 6.78; 21 Nov  - 6.61; 5 Dec  - 6.51;

2022 - 1 Jan 6.41; 1 Feb  - 6.1; 9 Mar -  5.8; 13 Mar - 5.9; 7 Apr - 5.8; 21 Apr - 5.7; 7 May - 5.63; 23 May - 5.55; 8 June 5.50;  (got COVID on 12th June so held); 1 July 5.4; 15 July 5.32; 8 Aug 5.2; 15 Aug 5.1; 22 Aug 5; 19 Sept 4.9; 2 Oct 4.81; 13 Oct 4.71; (COVID Booster 17/10/22 so longer hold ); 1 Nov 4.65; 3 Nov 4.60; 10 Nov 4.55; 13 Nov 4.50; 17 Nov 4.45; 20 Nov 4.40;  2 Dec 4.30mg; 9 Dec 4.20mg; I discovered that the volumetric container measured 33ml rather than 30ml in Dec 2022. Following helpful advice from moderator OnMyWay (see her  reply of the 5th March) discovered taper with the dilution was 3.8mg (calculated by dividing 30/33 so that every 1ml of solution has  0.90ml of Mirtazapine.  7.50 - 0.90= 6.6ml which was the starting dose on 16th Aug 2021 not 7.5ml).  I decided to keep using the solution as I didn't want more change to deal with than I had to.

2023 17 Mar 4.1(3.7); 26 Mar 4.0(3.6); 14 Apr 3.9(3.51)28 Apr 3.8(3.42); 6 Jun 3.7(3.33); 19 Jun 3.6(3.24); 30 Jun 3.5(3.1); 19 Jul 3.4(3.06); 27 Jul 3.35 (3.01); 29 Jul 3.3 (2.97); 4 Aug 3.25 (2.92); 7 Aug 3.2 (2.88); 21 Aug 3.1 (2.79); 14.09 3 (2.7); 29th Sept 2.9(2.61); 15 Oct 2.8(2.52); 30 Oct 10 2.7(2.43); 13 Nov 2.65(2.38); 20 Nov 2.6(2.34); 26 Nov 2.55(2.29); 10 Dec 2.5(2.25); 

2024 - 14 Jan 2.45(2.20); 22 Jan 2.40(2.16); 29 Jan 2.35(2.11); 2 Feb 2.3 (2.07);15 Feb 2.25(2.02); 22 Feb 2.21 (1.98); 29 Feb 2.17(1.95); 7 Mar 2.13(1.91); 21 Mar 2.05 (1.84);

 

This is not 'medical advice' - my 'non medical advice' is don't get any more 'medical advice' or you may end up getting more 'medical treatment' i.e more drugs, DSM labels and/or ECT.   Please do not PM me thanks.

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Thank you @Oaktree1@Believer for your support.

Let me tell you it was scary.......I kept think could my brain just take over and make me do this to my granddaughter,  I have to stay away......

I had  brain panic then another mild feeling of disconnect and the  chilling withdrawn/creepy feel at 5am this morning. 

It makes me think of the stories of violence, anger when people take these drugs, dose changes.

I really feel for anyone that does act out because the brain/mind take over.  Hopefully I will have enough sanity to control things if this happens again..........It's like you sit back and watch and there is nothing you can do.......

 

It was wonderful to feel almost normal in the  yesterday late afternoon and evening.

My head still had sore spots and so numbing but the brain was clear. Not there but close.

It was so nice to see that I am still in there under the crazy dysfunction in my brain and body.

So we must be able to heal right.......

 

Today doing okay some brain burning and hurting spots like someone is trying to dig their way into my   left temple on top of my brain behind my brain and some burning.   awe who know where, it moves around all the time. 

 

Yes my hubby is wonderful.....He hasn't walked away yet lol.......I have to imagine this is really hard on him....He has to watch me wither in pain, listen to my obsessive ocd thoughts, be afraid of crazy things that no matter how many times he tells me the rational truth  but my brain can't accept the what if's, my silence ( although he probably needs the break),

It has to be tiring and frustrating for him at times too... It sure is for me😖  He keeps telling me I will get better....... 

 

Do any of you feel like your brain is on a low dose of speed.  Sometimes hardly noticeable but if you stop and listen you can feel it.   Sometimes it is intense with it.  Big time panic have to escape, how do I get out of this trap.....

 

We can do this one day at a time.❤️

It doesn't hurt to get a window once and awhile to rejuvenate us and show us we are in there, right!  lol 😁

 

I hope you two are getting some relief.❤️

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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Yay Greatful,

Nice job on the Notes through the 22nd!!!  Awesome.  And thank you.  I did spy some decent functioning, and however brief, but windows in your days!

And I think it might make sense to split the Lamictal out from the escitalopram when you are dosing it.  2 hours might be best.  Not just to complicate your drug schedules, but with the hopes that any interaction between those 2 drugs is minimized that way.

 

And okay, yes I follow that you were doing your total escitalopram dose, split into approximately 1/4 liquid, and 3/4 solid.  Good job with that.  And okay to go on to phase 2 of crossing over to liquid from me, as long you too feel okay about that now.

 

Have you been on the 25 mg of Trazodone since 1995?  

 

And oh my gosh Greatful.  Yes.......the grief.   I am happy to report that my relationships with siblings are in a better place now, some 7 months out from Mum's death.  And we still have the property to deal with too.  Frankly, I am glad we took the slow route with it all.  But.......oh man, it's been crazy, or as I recently said,  "if it's not one of us, it's the other......as far as someone going off a bit".  Just saying, as it is such a huge.......g normous task, the grieving, and all that goes with it.  I don't know if you go to Mad in America to read ever, but this one spoke to me.  And okay if it isn't your cup of tea right now too, but I'll share it.........I bet you'll find something helpful to apply to your own coping.

Grief: A Shamanic Perspective- Mad In America

 

And okay......Monday, monday.........let's all make it a good week.  I spy sunshine outside and am hopeful about my week ahead.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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19 hours ago, Greatful said:

 

became manic  super happy and jumping out of my skin

Now feeling the closes to normal, I can't remember how long it's been since I felt this way.

 

 

The mania (super happy) - what was that like? Do you get that often? Are you getting more feelings of 'close to normal' these days or was it a one off?

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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@Greatful Glad you had a good day ! 
Iam also glad you are getting the liquid! This will help with the worry, fear , anxiety. You will feel a little more in control of current situation.  And it is so much easier and simpler to buy it. 
 

you will be able to adjust your taper to you as life moves along. 
 

when I finally got a script for liquid it was like a major worry lifted off of me! 

 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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@Kat66

I don't have a clue what is going on with me.........

I am feeling a little manic again...  I think it's the drug.......I remember getting crazy hyper at work when I was on Lexapro before. Right now i have very little  depression, but  edgy and energy running through my brain and  body.  I started to feel overstimulated and getting hyper energy  about 2 hours after I took the lex.  

What's coming next.  What's around the corner😬 I better get under the covers and meditate.

The crazy part is I feel hyper but can't seem to get up and do anything......Overwhelmed, frozen

This is inner restlessness but not with the depression?  Brain still hurts😥

Maybe I am going crazy lol

 

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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21 hours ago, Greatful said:

 

The crazy part is I feel hyper but can't seem to get up and do anything......Overwhelmed, frozen

This is inner restlessness but not with the depression?  Brain still hurts😥

Maybe I am going crazy lol

 

This is what I was saying about WD being so contradictory. It's unlike anything I've ever experienced before. You would think if you felt hyper you'd be able to get up and do something, but no. This state we're in robs us of the energy to do the stuff we're ready and willing to do. It's crazy!!! And I've got the inner restlessness without the depression at the moment. And yet it sort of feels like depression - does that makes sense?

I'll be honest I don't understand the hurting brain thing - you mean it physically hurts? xx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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@Kat66

Thanks for stopping by.  It helps so much to know we are not alone.❤️

Yep the brain hurts/burns/ squeezes/crushes in, tingles, some time bad where I take something for it.  It is always there moving around the brain,  I will have times where it is less intense now, thank goodness.   

My depression has lifted too.....It makes such a difference on your attitude and outlook when you are not in the dark/cloudy/negative place. 

Please depression never show your face again.......lol

 

 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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1 hour ago, Greatful said:

@Kat66

Thanks for stopping by.  It helps so much to know we are not alone.❤️

Yep the brain hurts/burns/ squeezes/crushes in, tingles, some time bad where I take something for it.  It is always there moving around the brain,  I will have times where it is less intense now, thank goodness.   

My depression has lifted too.....It makes such a difference on your attitude and outlook when you are not in the dark/cloudy/negative place. 

Please depression never show your face again.......lol

 

 

 

That sounds so weird, and horrible. So not like a headache as such...? I'm glad the depression has lifted. It's the worst, like a mutant depression on steroids, specially formulated for WD purposes. I know mine will be back....it always is LOL.

Stay strong xxx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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@Kat66  Some times I feel like I have a headache.  This is different.

some times it feels like it's  burning/icey in a on top of my head then it will move to somewhere else or feels like it is crushing in on top, or like some one is trying to force a round peg into the top or left temple.  I have had it were it feels like a hard baseball/or knot is on the top right behind my forehead.   Tingling/numbness that moves around the brain.  Sometimes the whole thing will feel numb/tingly.  I must say it is better than last summer,  what a nightmare that was.

 

Enjoy your window, free from depression..........Who knows it might never come back🌞 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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