Jump to content

Kat66: should I reinstate or plough on drug free?


Kat66

Recommended Posts

  • Moderator Emeritus

Other members have reported experience similar increase in symptoms.

 

When changing anything it is always a good idea to do it gradually.

Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions. 

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

Link to comment

@ChessieCat that's the thing, I thought I was going gradually. It just shows how slow and painful this journey can be.

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

My brain is having real trouble processing information, like there are some crossed wires or something. It takes me a while to 'see' what's really happening in a situation. Things that have been done/said by me I think have been done/said by someone else. It's difficult to describe, and it's quite disturbing, like my brain is 'breaking down' or something. Eventually I realise the 'truth' of a situation' but it takes so long for my brain to process what's actually going on. It does feel like I'm starting to go crazy! I'm assuming it's another wonderful symptom of WD?

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

I experience the same thing. Things are slow to connect, conversations, what was I doing, how do I do it, what is happening around me. I always think it’s just “me”, I have to keep reminding myself I wasn’t like this before tapering. Although my sertraline was pooping out me. 
 

hang in there @kat66, you’re not alone.

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

6/21/19 5.05 mg

9/6/19 4.8 mg

4/24/20 4.57 mg

8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg

11/26/21 3.93 mg

4/15/22 3.74 mg

6/3/22 3.54 mg

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium 

Vitamin C

Link to comment

Thanks @Believer, it's quite a worrying symptom, because while I was having some cognitive fog, this feels on a different level, like there's something really going wrong in my brain (dementia?). When your sertraline was pooping out, what was happening, were you getting breakthrough depression etc?

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

Hi kat,

 

This symptom sounds very familiar to me unfortunately... it is extremely annoying at work. Before I can think of something my colleagues have answered/solved/taken care of..

 

Like reality is happening and my brain tries to make something out of it. Other people moved on before I can take in the situation.  This happened to me before in wd but recently it is becoming  worse.

 

You're definitely not alone!

 

Cheers

 

Jozeff

- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg

2020  03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold...

2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg /  13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg /  09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg / 

2022   08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg

 

 

 

Link to comment
  • Moderator Emeritus
1 hour ago, Kat66 said:

My brain is having real trouble processing information, like there are some crossed wires or something.

 

Others members have mentioned the same thing.  I can remember one of them saying that she couldn't remember the word for broom and ended up saying "the thing you sweep the floor with".  I've had it happened to me too.

 

I think the more you worry about it (which is stress) the worse it can be/longer it takes to recover from.

 

Video:  Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery

 

AND

  

On 12/27/2015 at 6:37 AM, Altostrata said:

Basically- you have a building where the MAJOR steel structures are [...] to be rebuilt at different times - ALL while people are coming and going in the building and attempting to work.

It would be like if the World Trade Center Towers hadn't completely fallen - but had crumbled inside in different places.. Imagine if you were [...] to rebuild the tower - WHILE people were coming and going and [...] to work in the building!  You'd have to set up a temporary elevator - but when you needed to fix part of that area, you'd have to tear down that elevator and set up a temporary elevator somewhere else. And so on. You'd have to build, work around, then tear down, then build again, then work around, then build... ALL while people are coming and going, ALL while the furniture is being replaced, ALL while the walls are getting repainted... ALL while [...] is going on INSIDE the building. No doubt it would be chaotic. That is EXACTLY what is happening with windows and waves.  The windows are where the body has "got it right" for a day or so - but then the building shifts and the brain works on something else - and it's chaos again while another temporary pathway is set up to reroute function until repairs are made.

 

Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions. 

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

Link to comment

No depression, just minor brain zaps. GP said it wasn't working anymore, switched me to bupropion IR then to ER because I kept forgetting afternoon dose, bad adverse reaction so back to sertraline and here I am, depressed, anxious, cog fog, etc. I believe these drugs cause harm, I’ve experienced it. So just trying to get off and pray for recovery. 

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

6/21/19 5.05 mg

9/6/19 4.8 mg

4/24/20 4.57 mg

8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg

11/26/21 3.93 mg

4/15/22 3.74 mg

6/3/22 3.54 mg

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium 

Vitamin C

Link to comment
2 hours ago, Kat66 said:

My brain is having real trouble processing information, like there are some crossed wires or something. It takes me a while to 'see' what's really happening in a situation. Things that have been done/said by me I think have been done/said by someone else. It's difficult to describe, and it's quite disturbing, like my brain is 'breaking down' or something. Eventually I realise the 'truth' of a situation' but it takes so long for my brain to process what's actually going on. It does feel like I'm starting to go crazy! I'm assuming it's another wonderful symptom of WD?

 

Hi @Kat66

I've had something like this intermittently and yes, I'd consider it a WD symptom. 

 

For me it often goes together with DP/DR, which makes everything around me feel like it's happening in slow motion and underwater, very alienating and weird. This entails a processing delay as I have to sort of make my way through layers of alternate reality, like multiple levels of special effects in a movie, and there's a lag while I'm consciously struggling through the disorientation to put the pieces together to form some sort of picture of what is actually going on. By the time I've constructed some semblance of reality, things have already changed and the world is newly fragmented. 

 

I don't know if that sounds anything like what you experience, but I can certainly relate to your description in your post. 

 

Oh, you know what it's like? Do you cook/bake? It feels like when eggs curdle or a sauce separates or you're whisking something that just won't emulsify... Like the world around me just doesn't gel and everything looks and feels funny, and if I try to concentrate it splinters further rather than comes together. And when I'm in that state it's very, very difficult to process information. 

 

It's such a jarring, isolating experience and can feel quite scary. I'm sorry you're dealing with this. 

You're not going crazy. It's just WD. It's temporary and it will pass. It gets better <3

 

Anxiety makes it worse, so try as much as possible to acknowledge - accept - float.

Grounding techniques are good, too. Anything to get into your body and connect to your physical self. 

It also helps me to slow way down. Like really, really slow, trying to be mindful and present with movement and action, whatever it is. 

How are those cold showers going, by the way? Sometimes that can help with DP/DR and getting back into one's body. 

 

Hang in there, Kat. You're getting through this and doing so well putting one foot in front of the other!

In solidarity and support,

A.

 

1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs)

2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?)    Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg  -->  July 2018 - 0mg

2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg    2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg  -->  July 2021 - 0mg

March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT)  -->  April 28th, 2021 - 0mg

supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin 

August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin

 

Courage is fear that has said its prayers.  - Karle Wilson Baker

love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters.  - Rev. angel Kyodo williams

Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are.  - text on homemade banner at Afiya house

 

I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. 

Link to comment

@Ariel it sounds like what you experience is similar to what I describe - it's not just forgetting words, it's more profound than that, like your cooking comparison - it's like the whole world is fragmented and nothing makes sense, nothing 'gels' as you say. The DP/DR happens when you're trying to make sense of it all, that sense of unreality that's often there when you're trying to make sense of a situation. It's all very unnerving. Yeah the cold showers are now part of my regular routine, thanks for asking, and the temperature of the water doesn't bother me at all now. I don't flinch - I just relax into it. That said, I don't know if they're doing me any good - but the sensation is quite addictive and apparently they're good for you so I'll carry on.

 

@ChessieCatthanks for the reminder that this is all part of the brain healing. Sometimes you forget all that stuff and simply think you're losing your marbles.

 

@jozeffthanks for making me feel less alone. It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one.

 

@Believeragain, thanks for making me feel less alone in this.

 

Thank you all for replying, sending love and healing to all xx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

@Ariel @ChessieCat @jozeff @Believer I have an example of this weird brain disconnect/broken brain thing I was on about. I was walking my dog today and had the thought 'I need to take my top off as I'm a bit sweaty', but instead of processing the thought as 'I need to take my top off...when I get home', my brain processed it as 'I need to take my top off right now' - in the middle of the walk. Weird, like my brain's not working. Of course I know why it's not working (the building analogy) but all the same, it's quite disconcerting!

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
On 8/16/2022 at 7:24 PM, Kat66 said:

Thanks @Believer, it's quite a worrying symptom, because while I was having some cognitive fog, this feels on a different level, like there's something really going wrong in my brain (dementia?). When your sertraline was pooping out, what was happening, were you getting breakthrough depression etc?

Hi Kat, i have the same issue I am also really scared that I develop dementia? My brain is stuck and I can’t proceed informations. The people think I must be stupid because I don’t recognize the simple things. I have brain fog and people think I am egoistic because I only talk about myself, but this isn’t true I can’t understand the information they give me. So I can’t help them like before. If you like you can contact  me 

I don’t remember everything but I tray

2019 3-4 months citalopram (tiered from medication 

2019 3-4 month Escitalopram (same as citalopram)

2019-03/2020 Effexor ( CT because I was psychotic on this medication )

08/2020 Risperdal 4mg 1 week than taper to 2Mg 09/2020 1mg Risperdal + Effexor 37,5 till April CT in Psyward by the doctors

April 2021 relapse and get 20 mg Abilify ( i think it was WD not relapse) 

May 2021 CT Abilify 

Hospital : try a lot of Medication Medication Sep2021: 150 mg sertralin and 50mg Quentiapin 

tapered in hospital 3 month 0 mg sertralin and 50 mg quentiapin 

March 2022 CT Quentiapin 

Current medication 0

 

Link to comment

Hi @Quittingquentiapin yes! That’s the same thing I get. Did you read Chessiecat’s post a bit further up from Believer’s post, about the healing brain being like a building in the middle of construction? I found this analogy very comforting, because it made me realise it’s all part of the WD process. 

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
Just now, Kat66 said:

Hi @Quittingquentiapin yes! That’s the same thing I get. Did you read Chessiecat’s post a bit further up from Believer’s post, about the healing brain being like a building in the middle of construction? I found this analogy very comforting, because it made me realise it’s all part of the WD process. 

Yes I read it, but at the moment I am really confused. And hope things will improve because this state of not nice 

I don’t remember everything but I tray

2019 3-4 months citalopram (tiered from medication 

2019 3-4 month Escitalopram (same as citalopram)

2019-03/2020 Effexor ( CT because I was psychotic on this medication )

08/2020 Risperdal 4mg 1 week than taper to 2Mg 09/2020 1mg Risperdal + Effexor 37,5 till April CT in Psyward by the doctors

April 2021 relapse and get 20 mg Abilify ( i think it was WD not relapse) 

May 2021 CT Abilify 

Hospital : try a lot of Medication Medication Sep2021: 150 mg sertralin and 50mg Quentiapin 

tapered in hospital 3 month 0 mg sertralin and 50 mg quentiapin 

March 2022 CT Quentiapin 

Current medication 0

 

Link to comment

@Quittingquentiapin when you say you’re confused, can you tell me more? I know this symptom is not nice but we have to remember this is all part of WD and in time the brain will heal.

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
15 minutes ago, Kat66 said:

@Quittingquentiapin when you say you’re confused, can you tell me more? I know this symptom is not nice but we have to remember this is all part of WD and in time the brain will heal.

I don’t know what is me and what is WD. I feel like a different person. I don’t know what thought is mine and what is WD

 

i really don’t know how to discribe this all

I don’t remember everything but I tray

2019 3-4 months citalopram (tiered from medication 

2019 3-4 month Escitalopram (same as citalopram)

2019-03/2020 Effexor ( CT because I was psychotic on this medication )

08/2020 Risperdal 4mg 1 week than taper to 2Mg 09/2020 1mg Risperdal + Effexor 37,5 till April CT in Psyward by the doctors

April 2021 relapse and get 20 mg Abilify ( i think it was WD not relapse) 

May 2021 CT Abilify 

Hospital : try a lot of Medication Medication Sep2021: 150 mg sertralin and 50mg Quentiapin 

tapered in hospital 3 month 0 mg sertralin and 50 mg quentiapin 

March 2022 CT Quentiapin 

Current medication 0

 

Link to comment

I can totally relate to feeling like a different person and also the blurred lines of what is WD and what is us. It’s an extremely confusing state to be in. Hang in there, you’re not alone x

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
On 8/19/2022 at 6:18 PM, Kat66 said:

I can totally relate to feeling like a different person and also the blurred lines of what is WD and what is us. It’s an extremely confusing state to be in. Hang in there, you’re not alone x

Hi Kat, did it get better for you? My brain isn’t working anymore, I don’t know what this is. I feel dead inside 

I don’t remember everything but I tray

2019 3-4 months citalopram (tiered from medication 

2019 3-4 month Escitalopram (same as citalopram)

2019-03/2020 Effexor ( CT because I was psychotic on this medication )

08/2020 Risperdal 4mg 1 week than taper to 2Mg 09/2020 1mg Risperdal + Effexor 37,5 till April CT in Psyward by the doctors

April 2021 relapse and get 20 mg Abilify ( i think it was WD not relapse) 

May 2021 CT Abilify 

Hospital : try a lot of Medication Medication Sep2021: 150 mg sertralin and 50mg Quentiapin 

tapered in hospital 3 month 0 mg sertralin and 50 mg quentiapin 

March 2022 CT Quentiapin 

Current medication 0

 

Link to comment
7 hours ago, Quittingquentiapin said:

Hi Kat, did it get better for you? My brain isn’t working anymore, I don’t know what this is. I feel dead inside 

It comes and goes. If I am in a window the feeling subsides somewhat, but it's always there to some extent. I suspect this feeling will be here until I am healed from WD. I can so relate to feeling dead inside and our brains not working. My memory, cognitive logical functioning are both shot. It's all WD, it will get better. I try to accept the symptoms as WD and therefore temporary, that does help get me through the worst. Hang in there x

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
  • 3 weeks later...

I am in a dirty window at the moment, able to do a little more, exercise a little more, feel not quite as despairing, but still feeling quite emotionally numb. It doesn't take much to sensitise my system though. When the news came through a couple of days ago that the Queen was gravely ill, and then died, I experienced a huge release of unexpected emotion and couldn't stop crying for the best part of 24 hours. All I could do was just lie on the couch and function at a bare minimum. I couldn't make the smallest decision, make any phone calls, or speak. It was like I was frozen. I had zero energy and fell into a dark hole again. Today, after some reasonable sleep, I feel a little better, but the last two days served as a reminder that it doesn't take much to set off the symptoms again when you're in a window.

 

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
  • Mentor

@Kat66

We sure are sensitive in many ways now....Emotionally and physically...That's okay to take the time to feel the emotions and let them work through....They will pass and feel less intense with time.....

 

What's wrong with a little bit of  couch surfing🌞

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Xanax 0.625 3x a day   Trazodone 25mg  Holding these

Lexapro   Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg   3/21 3.4mg>  5/2 3mg > 6/1  decreasing by 0.02ml  daily  to 2.7mg>  7/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to  2.5 mg>  8/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to 2.26mg

Lamictal  7/17/2022  25mg  9/9/2022 20mg

Supplements  Magnesium 300mg-400mg

Link to comment

It’s really odd how i can feel the intense sadness but have trouble feeling pleasure. Annoying really. Why can’t it be the other way round? My couch and I have spent more time together recently than me and my hubby. 🤦‍♀️ 

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

I’m sure I’ve read on here that the most healing happens in a wave. If that’s the case there’s a buttload of healing happening at the moment. I feel like I’m barely holding it together. The anger, dread, anxiety and panic have ramped up to level 11. I honestly don’t know how I’m getting through the days at the moment. Let’s just say everything’s been deployed. Lavender on pillow, lavender essential oil, lemon balm tea and kalms coming out of my ears, meditation music on permanent loop, mantras (‘I am safe’,  ‘they’re just thoughts’). The urge to down whisky is strong but I’m resisting. It hasn’t helped that I found a lump in one of my boobs last weekend and have an appointment to check it out next week. I feel overwhelmed by WD symptoms and hope they calm down soon or I might lose the plot completely!

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
  • Moderator

I am very sorry to hear this Kat.  Yes your brain is definitely healing. I wanna say you’re doing a great job on non-drug coping techniques and staying alcohol free. Just try to remember that if you take a drink it’s only going to exacerbate the problem and you’ll suffer even more for weeks even though it may give you a temporary reprieve. I’m praying for you and rooting for you. This too shall pass. 

I'm currently taking a break, and will not be moderating at this time. 

 

Do not private message me. Please do not tag me unless it's an urgent question about tapering or reinstating.

 

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 '02 - 10 mg;  Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005,  Jul 8, 0.00.  Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!!  Woohoo!!!

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, 3 PM, before bed

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc

suppl noon: calcium

suppl supper: calcium

suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, Estroven, melatonin 2 mg

Link to comment
  • Mentor

@Kat66  Hang in there Kat...It truly is so hard to believe how these drugs can caused so much change and disruption to our brains...You are doing a great job battling your way through this wave...It may seem like this is more than you can handle but you can do it....You have been here before and it's passed and it will again....I know how easy it is to get overwhelmed and feel worn out but try to stay in today and focus on getting through it.

I'm clomping along next to you.....♥️

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Xanax 0.625 3x a day   Trazodone 25mg  Holding these

Lexapro   Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg   3/21 3.4mg>  5/2 3mg > 6/1  decreasing by 0.02ml  daily  to 2.7mg>  7/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to  2.5 mg>  8/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to 2.26mg

Lamictal  7/17/2022  25mg  9/9/2022 20mg

Supplements  Magnesium 300mg-400mg

Link to comment

Hi @Kat66

A lump can be a scary find to someone whose CNS is operating correctly, it has likely ramped your system up even more. 

 

It sounds like your using all your tools, keep at it.

 

Hang in there, we’re here for you, you aren’t alone.

 

 

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

6/21/19 5.05 mg

9/6/19 4.8 mg

4/24/20 4.57 mg

8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg

11/26/21 3.93 mg

4/15/22 3.74 mg

6/3/22 3.54 mg

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium 

Vitamin C

Link to comment

Thanks my wonderful compadres @getofflex @Greatful @Believer your encouraging words mean the world to me xxx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

So, I got the all clear re the lumps in my breast. Turns out they were benign cysts. The weird thing is, I don't feel any kind of joy at this news. Sure I feel relieved, but I realised soon after the initial spike of relief that BANG, I'm still in WD. After the stress of this little health scare and the emotional rollercoaster of the last 10 days since the Queen's death, I'm in an amped up, over stimulated state, so lots of dread, panic, anger, shakiness, and irritability ramped up to 11. Hopefully it'll all settle down soon.

 

Sending love and healing thoughts to everyone xxxx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

What great news! I’m so happy for you. Hopefully your system will settle having that out of the way. It really floors me how my body responds to even the slightest stress, things that wouldn’t have stressed me before this nightmare. Do you find that to be true for you?

 

Do you have any stress relieving practices that you find helpful? Breathing exercises can be helpful when I’m really ramped up and even focusing on relaxing my body when I feel tense. Which right now is most of the time. There are times when I can feel my mind/body relax on its own but there is no rhyme or reason to it. Do you experience anything similar?

 

Hugs

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

6/21/19 5.05 mg

9/6/19 4.8 mg

4/24/20 4.57 mg

8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg

11/26/21 3.93 mg

4/15/22 3.74 mg

6/3/22 3.54 mg

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium 

Vitamin C

Link to comment

@Kat66I am so happy you got the all clear on the lumps. Did they diagnose you with fibrocystic breast disease? I have had that since I was about 20. It can be very painful but fish oil helps the cysts I find. Waves can be so overwhelming and defeating. I am here if you need to chat or need extra support. I have been going through my own health issues and I definitely think the stress of that induces strong waves. I’m hoping the positive news about your breasts will calm your nervous system and pull you through to a window.  I am praying for your healing and for calm and peace to surround you. ❤️

1995  Prozac      1996  Prozac and Paxil       1997  Celexa      1998-2018  Cymbalta 60-120mg-- failed taper and restarted at 20mg after development of intense rage--finally able to taper off in late 2018    2017-2021  Clonazepam 0.5mg BID--discontinued over 4 weeks in April 2021 resulting in severe benzo withdrawal for 5 months maybe still ongoing at time of AD rapid taper in Dec 2021

2018-2019  Bupropion    *Have been polydrugged since 1995 with a variety of benzos, sleeping pills, anxioltyics, and ADs.  Too many to list or remember. Never properly tapered by doctor before switching medicines*

2020  Started on Buspirone 15mg TID     2020-2021   Antidepressant was changed three times: Trintellix, Pristiq, Fluvoxamine.  Underwent 6 months of ketamine infusions. Advised to discontinue all meds due to inefficacy in November 2021.  Weaned off Fluvoxamine by psychiatrist over 6 weeks-- last dose ~December 10, 2021.  Severe ongoing withdrawal.   February 2021  Started on 300mg Gabapentin for anxiety, restless legs, insomnia, and wide spread body pain from withdrawal.  Began Gabapentin taper to 200mg on 8/5/2022. Worsened withdrawal symptoms.  Also began 2000mg of L-Tryptophan for depression/AD withdrawal, 2400mg of N Acetyl Cysteine for OCD and 300mg of Magnesium for depression.  Began L-Tryptophan taper from 2000mg to 1500mg on 8/14/2022. Completed l-tryptophan and NAC taper on 8/29/2022. 

Current Meds: 15mg of Buspirone TID, 200mg of gabapentin QD, metoprolol 50mg QD, 10mg Zyrtec QD, 12.5mg of Benadryl QD, birth control pills Current Supplements: 100 mg of magnesium TID, 1000mg of  Fish Oil BID

 

Link to comment
  • Mentor

@Kat66 What a relief Kat.  You had some real emotional things happen....hard enough to deal with when you are not in WD...You are remarkably strong........I hope things will settle down for you now....Take a deep breath, take extra care for yourself.....Do whatever you need to do to get through the days.

You are not alone....🌞

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Xanax 0.625 3x a day   Trazodone 25mg  Holding these

Lexapro   Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg   3/21 3.4mg>  5/2 3mg > 6/1  decreasing by 0.02ml  daily  to 2.7mg>  7/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to  2.5 mg>  8/1 decreasing 0.02ml daily to 2.26mg

Lamictal  7/17/2022  25mg  9/9/2022 20mg

Supplements  Magnesium 300mg-400mg

Link to comment
  • Moderator Emeritus
8 hours ago, Kat66 said:

After the stress of this little health scare and the emotional rollercoaster of the last 10 days since the Queen's death, I'm in an amped up, over stimulated state, so lots of dread, panic, anger, shakiness, and irritability ramped up to 11.

 

At least you are aware of the things that are making WD worse.  I found that recognising the other issues really helped and reduced the additional stress of worrying about what it was.

Please DO NOT TAG me - thank you

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions. 

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:    (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq      on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

Post 0 updates start here    My tapering program     My Intro (goes to tapering graph)

 VIDEO:   Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management

Link to comment

@Greatful @EttaLouWho @Believer and Chessie, thanks for the supportive words guys - your support is a light in the darkness!

 

On 9/22/2022 at 4:17 PM, EttaLouWho said:

Did they diagnose you with fibrocystic breast disease?

No, all they said was that they were little benign cysts and that if they grow or get painful, they can aspirate them....I'm sorry to hear you've been dealing with that issue yourself for some time - I would imagine your stress levels aren't helped by dealing with this! Thank you, same goes, if you want to chat about anything in private I'm happy to listen x

 

 

 

Hugs to everyone xxx

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment
On 9/22/2022 at 4:10 PM, Believer said:

It really floors me how my body responds to even the slightest stress, things that wouldn’t have stressed me before this nightmare. Do you find that to be true for you?

 

Do you have any stress relieving practices that you find helpful? Breathing exercises can be helpful when I’m really ramped up and even focusing on relaxing my body when I feel tense. Which right now is most of the time. There are times when I can feel my mind/body relax on its own but there is no rhyme or reason to it. Do you experience anything similar?

 

Hugs

Yes! The past 10 days have been testament to that. If I'm alone and quiet, I can just about cope, but the slightest thing that goes wrong, then BANG! the symptoms are out of control.

 

Stress relieving practices that work....hmmmm....I'm listening to a playlist called 'Pure Meditation' which is one step up from white noise...it's about the only thing that takes the stress down a notch at the moment. I can't listen to anything other than this right now. When I have the energy, a short 20 minute workout helps too. I have also found some success with deep breathing. I breathe in for 4 then out for longer - that genuinely seems to to take the edge off. Comfort TV (currently Desperate Housewives and Frasier) does help to calm me down a bit too!

 

This helps too - 

 

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD.

1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac. 2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019.

01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June.

25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp.
11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg.  

16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg.

2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 
28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg

Multiple unsuccessful previous attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; kliovance (HRT) Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, calcium, B12, vitD and vegan omega3. I use valerian and lemon balm tea for anxiety relief

Completely OFF booze (since 6/11/21) and caffeine (since July 21) now. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use Privacy Policy