rikib80 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) Hi everybody, I'm a 41 years old man from Italy. My english is not perfect, I hope is understandable. I've spent the last 10 years on AD. Started in 2010 with Entact(Escitalopram) due to stress at work and others anxiety issues (social anxiety, agoraphobia, driving anxiety) which resulted in a depressive episode. Took Entact for one year (don't remember the dosage) with good results and then fast tapered. From there started windows and waves episodes which exacerbated in a bad crash at the start of 2013: akathisia, depression, anxiety, crying. At the time little I know of ssri withdrawal sindrome, so I went to another doctor: he prescribed me Zoloft 50 mg. At first I took 25mg which resulted in a devastating paradoxical effect. However I kept taking the Zoloft and after the first months I did pretty well from 2014 to 2018 (it "helped" me to overcome the death of my mother, probably due the dulled emotions). Zoloft stopped working in the summer of 2019, with episodes of high anxiety and inner agitation. In march 2020 I took the Covid and stopped Zoloft cold turkey. In april I recovered from Covid and had the greatest month of my life : everything fine no acute withdrawal. The problems started in May with episodes of insomnia (as I dooze off anxiety and terror creeps in) and windows and waves (mainly depressive). The condition worsened in march 2021, in a couple of weeks I experimented flu like symptoms, legs tremors, very high anxiety. I took amisulpride for one month which alleviated the condition. Now I'm med free, feeling pretty bad, I've still episodes of waves and windows but my condition in general has worsened, with very bad insomnia. It's very tough, I don't know if it's better to restart a little dose and try to slowly taper from there, or keep going... Edited August 6, 2021 by arbor 2010-2011 Cipralex, fast tapered followed by windows and waves 2013 - february: Zoloft 50mg after crash 2020 - april: Zoloft not working anymore, anxiety, stopped cold turkey 2020 - may: windows and waves after a great month 2021 - march: crashed, took amisulpride for one month. currently med free. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted August 6, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 6, 2021 Dear @rikib80, Welcome to SA. I appreciate your listing your signature. This will help others in responding to your questions. To begin with, congratulations for surviving your withdrawals from these three medications. Unfortunately, eventually w/d tends to catch-up with us, especially it seems when there are more than one drug involved. W/d symptoms can even begin while taking the drug, when tolerance develops, and the drug stops working. I'm so sorry you're experiencing these miserable symptoms. I never knew anything could be as difficult and painful. When you say you'd like to restart a little dose, are you referring to amisulpride? I am not an expert on this, so I will share with you some links to address your situation in a general sense, and then if you are thinking reinstatement is an approach you would like to try, I will alert the more knowledgeable moderators to help you. There doesn't usually seem to be a painless method. People do recover as you can read in the Recovery Success Stories , but it often takes fortitude, patience, and time. A commitment to taking care of your overall health also benefits us. Here are links on reinstatement that you may find useful: About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms Amisulpride - Mechanism of Action I realize that you are in distress right now, so I recommend these sites to support you: Non Drug Ways to Cope with Withdrawal Symptoms Tips to help sleep: so many of us have that awful withdrawal We don't suggest many supplements, but 3 that many of us find helpful are magnesium and omega-3 fish oil. Here are the links for info about those. It is suggested to add one at a time, and start with a low dose to see how it affects you. Magnesium Omega 3 Fish Oil Melatonin This is your Introduction site where you can ask questions and connect with other members. I'm glad you've found us. Arbor Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment
rikib80 Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 11 hours ago, arbor said: When you say you'd like to restart a little dose, are you referring to amisulpride? I was thinking to restart the Zoloft or another AD at a little dose and taper...but actually the idea scares me more than the withdrawal. I've already started to take omega-3 fish oil I hope it will help me. This article suggest using clonazepam at low doses to alleviate w/d symptoms: https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/492693 2010-2011 Cipralex, fast tapered followed by windows and waves 2013 - february: Zoloft 50mg after crash 2020 - april: Zoloft not working anymore, anxiety, stopped cold turkey 2020 - may: windows and waves after a great month 2021 - march: crashed, took amisulpride for one month. currently med free. Link to comment
Moderator Go2zero Posted August 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Reinstating antidepressant after such a long time of stopping it, is not recommended. It may may things worse. Also taking other drugs against WD symptoms may things go worse. So not recommended either. Time is the big healer. Fish oil and magnesium may give some relief. With anxiety Lavender Oil sometimes gives relief. Take only ORGANIC essential lavender oil. Put 2-4 drops in a glass of water (NOT pure drops only) and drink it. Start with 4 drops and see if relief comes in about 30 minutes. If not take 1 more drop in a glass of water and drink it. When no result after 30 minutes take a 4th drop and see if it works. If it works, just take when needed. Not as a daily routine. It often works and gives no side effects normally. Take a look at the links underneath. Non drugs coping techniques are very important. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1112-non-drug-techniques-to-cope-with-emotional-symptoms/ https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/14397-neuro-emotions/ Edited August 7, 2021 by Go2zero 1 1993 Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006 No medication 2006 Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin 2016 Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems. April 2017 – March 2019 Lexapro 0,6 mg April 2017 - August 2018 Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step. March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..) Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg October 2019 Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg March 2020 Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg Extreme withdrawal effects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020 Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. Jan 2021 : Prozac down to: 0,55> 0,53>0,51mg, Feb 0,47mg , Mar 0,42mg, Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again, Sept 19 0,35, Sept 26 0,34mg, Oct 3 0,33mg Long hold of 172 days until March 2022 January 20, 2022: Wellbutrin from 33,3 to 32,3mg March 22, 2022 Prozac down from 0,33mg to: 0,30mg, Apr 0,29, May 0,28, 0,27, June 0,26, 0,25, July 0,24, 0,23, 0,22, 0,21, Aug 0,20, 0,19 Sep 0,18, Oct 0,17. 0,16, 0,15, Nov 0,14 Jan 2023 0,13, 0,12, 0,11 Feb 0,10, 0,09 Mar 0,08 , June 0,07 , July 0,06, 0,05, Aug 0,04, 0,03, Sept 0,026, 0,024 Nov 0,022, 0,019, 0,016, 0,013 Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil, only when feeling extreme anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine only when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted August 7, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 7, 2021 Dear @rikib80 I wish you didn't have to be dealing with psycho-drug withdrawal. I've read the article you shared, thank you, but on the strength of its evidence, I myself would have the same aversion to clonazepam as I have to AD's. I understand the urge you may feel to research possible sources of help. I wish there was proper, ethical research happening on akathisia drug withdrawal. In this case, @Go2zerohas given you good advice. If you would like to add this article to the Journals and scientific sources link, you can find that on the main forum page. Also you can browse what other members have been reading. From journals and scientific sources - Surviving Antidepressants. You have all my sympathy, dealing with the insomnia and sleeping issues. Again, the success stories are very valuable to keep us going. Arbor Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment
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