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49 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

iwish  could say yeS, but the agitation is getting worster and tingling because of mirta

I can see just a part of your post.

 

Could you post again please in full? Did you change anything on dosage mirtezapine  or reinstatement of prozac?

 

Can you describe how you feel and if you notice changes in symptoms. Understand that symptoms come and go....

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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25 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

Ich kann nur einen Teil deines Beitrags sehen.

 

Könntest du bitte nochmal komplett posten? Haben Sie etwas an der Dosierung von Mirtezapin oder der Wiedereinsetzung von Prozac geändert?

 

Können Sie beschreiben, wie Sie sich fühlen und ob Sie Veränderungen der Symptome bemerken? Verstehe, dass Symptome kommen und gehen....

I feld so bad that i was suicidal 😓 Tension on a level that is not to endure. So i took Lorazepam 🙈Anxiety in my own house, totally sleepless. Im on the end i cant Imagine that it will be better. So many people here arent sleeping for years, i cant do that ....

 

My skin is so dry that it hurts, i loose a lot of hair. 

 

My whole Body tingles because of the Mirtazapin.... 😞😞😞😞 I changed nothing, No Fluoxetine, nothing....

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

I feld so bad that i was suicidal 😓 Tension on a level that is not to endure. So i took Lorazepam 🙈Anxiety in my own house, totally sleepless. Im on the end i cant Imagine that it will be better. So many people here arent sleeping for years, i cant do that ....

 

My skin is so dry that it hurts, i loose a lot of hair. 

 

My whole Body tingles because of the Mirtazapin.... 😞😞😞😞 I changed nothing, No Fluoxetine, nothing....

So sorry to read how you are feeling! 

 

Believe me, it will get better. After so many changes in meds and dosages, this what you experience happens often. Lots of our members have experienced this (me too). It will heal, but often slowly. 

 

Nearly everything we try to speed up the healing with (other) meds, will make things worse. I understand your pain and frustration. Unfortunately time is the only real healer. And acceptance of the current situation. Fighting against it and frustration often makes it worse.

 

Are you still using the 5mg mirtezapine? If so, please update your signature. Please do so with every change in meds or dosage. Then the mods always can see the right and latest info of you meds use.

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1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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2 hours ago, Swiffy said:

My whole Body tingles because of the Mirtazapin....

How come you are sure this is from mirtazapine? It may also be withdrawal symptoms from any other med you took. 

 

I am tapering prozac very slowly. And I have been having a tingling and burning feeling on the inside of my skin. I am holding on the same dosage now fro 5 months. And this feeling on my skin slowly gets less and less. This is how healing from withdrawal works... 

 

Holding and stabilizing are so important when having too much or too severe symptoms!

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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1 hour ago, Go2zero said:

Wie kommt es, dass Sie sicher sind, dass dies von Mirtazapin ist? Es können auch Entzugserscheinungen von anderen Medikamenten sein, die Sie eingenommen haben. 

 

Ich verjünge Prozac sehr langsam. Und ich habe ein kribbelndes und brennendes Gefühl auf der Innenseite meiner Haut. Ich halte jetzt seit 5 Monaten an der gleichen Dosierung. Und dieses Gefühl auf meiner Haut wird langsam immer weniger. So funktioniert die Heilung vom Entzug... 

 

Halten und Stabilisieren sind so wichtig bei zu vielen oder zu schweren Symptomen!

 

 

Im sure because it began with taking Mirtazapin... 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Im sure because it began with taking Mirtazapin... 

You cannot be sure about that. Please understand that we have quite some experience with these things... Very often WD symptoms start after 2-4 months after a change in dosage or meds. 

 

When I look how many changes you have made since October last year, it can be caused by anything or by a combination of them....

 

It cannot be said which change is causing what, when so many changes have been made. Therefor it is so important not to change anything now. I understand how eager you are to heal. And that WILL happen. But please be good to yourself and be patient. Stabilize and let time do the healing....

 

I hope you understand. 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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24 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

Da können Sie sich nicht sicher sein. Bitte haben Sie Verständnis dafür, dass wir mit diesen Dingen schon einige Erfahrung haben... Sehr oft treten WD-Symptome nach 2-4 Monaten nach einer Dosis- oder Medikamentenänderung auf. 

 

Wenn ich mir ansehe, wie viele Änderungen Sie seit Oktober letzten Jahres vorgenommen haben, kann dies an allem oder an einer Kombination davon liegen....

 

Es kann nicht gesagt werden, welche Änderung was bewirkt, wenn so viele Änderungen vorgenommen wurden. Deshalb ist es so wichtig, jetzt nichts zu ändern. Ich verstehe, wie eifrig du bist, zu heilen. Und das WIRD passieren. Aber bitte sei gut zu dir und habe Geduld. Stabilisieren Sie sich und lassen Sie die Zeit die Heilung tun....

 

Ich hoffe, Sie verstehen. 

Thanks,

 

im ttrying it. But i have me one one year, Not more. I cant suffER no LONGeR. THERFEORE IT IS TO PAINFUL too See what i lost 😓😓 And now the Lorazepam too. I know its bullsh*t, but i think i had do Bad thinks without IT 🙈🙈🙈 Never tought that this would happen to me

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

m ttrying it. But i have me one one year, Not more. I cant suffER no LONGeR. THERFEORE IT IS TO PAINFUL too See what i lost 😓😓 And now the Lorazepam too. I know its bullsh*t, but i think i had do Bad thinks without IT 🙈🙈🙈 Never tought that this would happen to me

Yes, I understand. It is painful and frustrating. This website is full with people like you and me. It is not fair that these things happen. And that Big Pharma and doctors keep pushing these drugs... 

 

But we have to deal with life. Sometimes things happen that we don't want. But they do happen. And we have to deal with it. You are not alone! 🙏

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hi,

 

yES , i kNOW, BUT I CANT LIVe Like this for a longer time. Its No life 😞

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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18 hours ago, Swiffy said:

Vielen Dank,

 

ich versuche es. Aber ich habe mir ein Jahr nicht mehr. Ich kann nicht länger leiden. DESHALB IST ES ZU SCHMERZLICH Sehen Sie, was ich verloren habe 😓 😓 Und jetzt auch noch das Lorazepam. Ich weiß, es ist Bullsh*t, aber ich glaube, ich hätte schlechte Gedanken ohne IT gemacht 🙈 🙈 🙈 Ich hätte nie gedacht, dass mir so etwas passieren würde

Do you have any examples for tapering Benzodiazepin?

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Do you have any examples for tapering Benzodiazepin?

Could you be more specific please. What do you want to taper exactly?

 

- How long have you been using that benzodiazepine?

- When did you start it?

- Did you take it every day? If not how often did you take it?

- What is the dose you have been taking? If different dosages, please give details how much and when.

 

 

You write about Lorazepam. It is not in your signature. Please update your signature with all details (dosages, dates). This is very important! We need ALL info about your meds usage to be able to give good advice.

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1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Vor 1 Stunde sagte Go2zero:

Könnten Sie bitte genauer sein. Was willst du genau verjüngen?

 

- Wie lange nehmen Sie dieses Benzodiazepin schon ein?

- Wann hast du damit angefangen?

- Hast du es jeden Tag genommen? Wenn nicht, wie oft hast du es genommen?

- Welche Dosis haben Sie eingenommen? Bei abweichenden Dosierungen bitte genau angeben, wie viel und wann.

 

 

Sie schreiben über Lorazepam. Es steht nicht in deiner Signatur. Bitte aktualisieren Sie Ihre Signatur mit allen Details (Dosierungen, Termine). Dies ist sehr wichtig! Wir benötigen ALLE Informationen über Ihren Medikamentenverbrauch, um gute Ratschläge zu geben zu can.

Ich begann 2021-6 mit 2 mg pro Tag im Krankenhaus für 4 Wochen. Zu Hause wurde mir wegen Akathisie so schlecht, dass ich manchmal 0,5 - 1 mg einnahm. Jetzt bin ich bei 2,5 mg pro Tag. Ich bin nicht stabil, aber das Lorazepam nimmt die größte Spannung auf. Ich weiß, dass ich es wegen der schrecklichen WD-Symptome von Fluoxetin nicht aufhalten kann. Ich kann keine genauen Informationen machen, weil ich ES nicht kenne🙈 Ich bin nicht die Art, so viel Drogen zu nehmen, aber ich fühle mich so schrecklich, dass ich Angst hatte, Selbstmord zu begehen.wANT IT REDUCe IF I Feel any stability. My hope was that i can find some sleep, but ist wasnt so.

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Ich begann 2021-6 mit 2 mg pro Tag im Krankenhaus für 4 Wochen. Zu Hause wurde mir wegen Akathisie so schlecht, dass ich manchmal 0,5 - 1 mg einnahm. Jetzt bin ich bei 2,5 mg pro Tag. Ich bin nicht stabil, aber das Lorazepam nimmt die größte Spannung auf. Ich weiß, dass ich es wegen der schrecklichen WD-Symptome von Fluoxetin nicht aufhalten kann. Ich kann keine genauen Informationen machen, weil ich ES nicht kenne🙈 Ich bin nicht die Art, so viel Drogen zu nehmen, aber ich fühle mich so schrecklich, dass ich Angst hatte, Selbstmord zu begehen.wANT IT REDUCe IF I Feel any stability. My hope was that i can find some sleep, but ist wasnt so.

Could you pleas post in English only. It is important that everybody (all mods and members) can understand what you write.

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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2 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

Could you pleas post in English only. It is important that everybody (all mods and members) can understand what you write.

 

I started on 2 mg per day in the hospital for 4 weeks in 2021-6. At home I got so sick from akathisia that I sometimes took 0.5-1 mg. Now I'm at 2.5 mg a day. I'm not stable, but the lorazepam picks up the greatest tension. I know that I can't stop it because of fluoxetine's terrible WD symptom. I can't give exact information because I don't know IT 🙈 I'm not the type to do so much drugs, but I feel so horrible that I was scared to commit suicide. WANT IT REDUCE IF I Feel Stability. My hope was that I could get some sleep, but I didn't.

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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1 minute ago, Swiffy said:

I started on 2 mg per day in the hospital for 4 weeks in 2021-6. At home I got so sick from akathisia that I sometimes took 0.5-1 mg. Now I'm at 2.5 mg a day. I'm not stable, but the lorazepam picks up the greatest tension. I know that I can't stop it because of fluoxetine's terrible WD symptom. I can't give exact information because I don't know IT 🙈 I'm not the type to do so much drugs, but I feel so horrible that I was scared to commit suicide. WANT IT REDUCE IF I Feel Stability. My hope was that I could get some sleep, but I didn't.

 

Did you take Lorazepam every day or not? Please tell how often you took it since you started. For example in the first week every day, in the 2nd week twice a week, in the third week nothing.....

 

This is very important to know before we can give any advice. Lorazepam is highly addictive. You should stop it as soon as possible. But how to stop it depends on what and how you used it since you started.

 

Are you using more meds that you did not mention before. Your use of Lorazepam comes as a surprise to me. Please report everything, otherwise we cannot advise right.

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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11 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

 

Haben Sie Lorazepam täglich eingenommen oder nicht? Bitte sagen Sie, wie oft Sie es seit Beginn eingenommen haben. Zum Beispiel in der ersten Woche jeden Tag, in der 2. Woche zweimal pro Woche, in der dritten Woche gar nichts.....

 

Dies ist sehr wichtig zu wissen, bevor wir einen Rat geben können. Lorazepam macht stark süchtig. Sie sollten es so schnell wie möglich stoppen. Aber wie Sie es stoppen können, hängt davon ab, was und wie Sie es seit Beginn verwendet haben.

 

Verwenden Sie mehr Medikamente, die Sie vorher nicht erwähnt haben? Ihre Verwendung von Lorazepam kommt für mich überraschend. Bitte alles melden, sonst können wir nicht richtig beraten.

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

 

Haben Sie Lorazepam täglich eingenommen oder nicht? Bitte sagen Sie, wie oft Sie es seit Beginn eingenommen haben. Zum Beispiel in der ersten Woche jeden Tag, in der 2. Woche zweimal pro Woche, in der dritten Woche gar nichts.....

 

Dies ist sehr wichtig zu wissen, bevor wir einen Rat geben können. Lorazepam macht stark süchtig. Sie sollten es so schnell wie möglich stoppen. Aber wie Sie es stoppen können, hängt davon ab, was und wie Sie es seit Beginn verwendet haben.

 

Verwenden Sie mehr Medikamente, die Sie vorher nicht erwähnt haben? Ihre Verwendung von Lorazepam kommt für mich überraschend. Bitte alles melden, sonst können wir nicht richtig beraten.

I TOoK IT IN ThE HOSPITALFOR 4 WEEKS (SIGNATURE) AND THeN 3 weeks nothing. Then ITs getting worster and IT took somethimes 1 mg a day. Since 10 Days i take 2,5 mg. 1,25 in the morning and 1,25 in the evening.

 

I took nothing Like Mirtazapin and Lorazepam...

 

DOC SAID I HAVE TO REDUCe MIRTA BECaUSe liver values are so Bad ..

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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1 minute ago, Swiffy said:

DOC SAID I HAVE TO REDUCe MIRTA BECaUSe liver values are so Bad ..

 

What does he mean by this? Can you give details as much as possible what is bad?

 

2 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

I TOoK IT IN ThE HOSPITALFOR 4 WEEKS (SIGNATURE) AND THeN 3 weeks nothing. Then ITs getting worster and IT took somethimes 1 mg a day. Since 10 Days i take 2,5 mg. 1,25 in the morning and 1,25 in the evening.

 

 

I guess you are pretty save to taper it down quickly. Believe me, when you get addicted to Lorazepam you may have heavier WD problems than with getting off the prozac. When you did not take it more than 3 weeks in a row, you probably can get away off the Lorazepam quite easily.

 

But you will loose the sedating effect of it. So your existing WD symptoms may feel like getting worse. Just because you do not numb yourself with the Lorazepam. 

 

I understand that you might want to stop the mirtazapine. But that is asking for trouble now. You cannot taper the lorazepam and the mirtazapine at the same moment, when I read how you are feeling. 

 

The mirtazapine should wait. You do not want to be addicted to lorazepam!

 

I advise to taper the lorazepam down to zero over a period of 1-2 weeks. 2,5 mg per day is a high doses!

 

Go back to 1,5 mg first for 2 days, then 1mg for 2-3 days, then 0,5mg for 3-4 days, then 0,25mg for 3-4 days, then 0,1 mg for 2-3 days and STOP.

 

This is quite a fast taper, but you were not too long on it. The longer you stay on it the more difficult it may get to get off!

 

Be aware that WD symptoms of all drugs you have been using lately (not only prozac) may be felt stronger. Just because you do not numb yourself with the lorazepam. You have to go through this. And you WILL heal. But it will take time.

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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28 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

 

Was meint er damit? Können Sie so detailliert wie möglich angeben, was schlecht ist?

 

 

Ich denke, Sie sind ziemlich sicher, es schnell zu verjüngen. Glauben Sie mir, wenn Sie von Lorazepam abhängig werden, können Sie schwerere WD-Probleme haben, als wenn Sie das Prozac absetzen. Wenn Sie es nicht länger als 3 Wochen hintereinander eingenommen haben, können Sie Lorazepam wahrscheinlich ganz leicht absetzen.

 

Aber Sie verlieren die sedierende Wirkung davon. Ihre bestehenden WD-Symptome können sich also so anfühlen, als würden sie sich verschlimmern. Nur weil Sie sich mit dem Lorazepam nicht betäuben. 

 

Ich verstehe, dass Sie das Mirtazapin möglicherweise absetzen möchten. Aber das macht jetzt Ärger. Sie können das Lorazepam und das Mirtazapin nicht gleichzeitig ausschleichen, wenn ich lese, wie Sie sich fühlen. 

 

Das Mirtazapin sollte warten. Sie wollen nicht süchtig nach Lorazepam werden!

 

Ich empfehle, das Lorazepam über einen Zeitraum von 1-2 Wochen auf Null zu reduzieren. 2,5 mg pro Tag sind eine hohe Dosis!

 

Gehen Sie zurück auf 1,5 mg zuerst für 2 Tage, dann 1 mg für 2-3 Tage, dann 0,5 mg für 3-4 Tage, dann 0,25 mg für 3-4 Tage, dann 0,1 mg für 2-3 Tage und stoppen.

 

Dies ist eine ziemlich schnelle Verjüngung, aber Sie waren nicht zu lange darauf. Je länger Sie darauf bleiben, desto schwieriger kann es werden, auszusteigen!

 

Beachten Sie, dass WD-Symptome aller Medikamente, die Sie in letzter Zeit eingenommen haben (nicht nur Prozac), stärker wahrgenommen werden können. Nur weil Sie sich mit dem Lorazepam nicht betäuben. Das musst du durchmachen. Und du wirst heilen. Aber es wird dauern.

 

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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HEY,

 

tHANK YOU. BUT I HAd I FOR 4 weeks in the Hospital. And then i took IT If necessary and since 2 weeks 1,25 mG aT MORNING ANd evening. Its Been 3 Months now 😕😕

 

My liver values are too high!  Thats the reason because doc sayed i should reduce it....

 

P.S.: Lorazepam is Tavor

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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1 hour ago, Swiffy said:

I TOoK IT IN ThE HOSPITALFOR 4 WEEKS (SIGNATURE) AND THeN 3 weeks nothing. Then ITs getting worster and IT took somethimes 1 mg a day. Since 10 Days i take 2,5 mg. 1,25 in the morning and 1,25 in the evening.

 

Here you said you did not take it for 3 weeks. If that is right, you may be still in the safe area to quit fast. The faster the better as explained before.

36 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

My liver values are too high!  Thats the reason because doc sayed i should reduce it....

 

 

Which liver values? Please explain in detail.

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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25 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

 

Hier sagten Sie, dass Sie es 3 Wochen lang nicht genommen haben. Wenn das richtig ist, befinden Sie sich möglicherweise noch im sicheren Bereich, um schnell aufzuhören. Je schneller desto besser, wie bereits beschrieben.

 

Welche Leberwerte? Bitte ausführlich erklären.

 

 

I dont know which values exactly.... I dont asked him.

 

SO HOW CAN I TAPER IT? Water solution???

 

 

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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In the Hospital they say they can do it in two weeks... Is this an option?

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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1 hour ago, Swiffy said:

In the Hospital they say they can do it in two weeks... Is this an option?

What do you mean. Tapering the mirtezapine?

 

Of  course they say you can do it in 2 weeks. If that was true, this website did not have to exist. You and I would feel great after tapering too fast.

 

I hear you say that you are experiencing heavy WD symptoms from all kind of meds you took. It is not even to say from which meds. Probably the total combination. You write you are thinking of suicide now and then. This is most probably a WD symptom also. Lots of members experience that now and then.

 

Are you serious in wanting to stop Lorazepam (which you should I think) and mess everything uo with a too fast taper of mirtazapine?

 

It is up to you what you want. You decide. But if I were you I would leave the mirtezapine (5mg is not a high dosage) at this level. You need to stabilize. We told you that often. The tapering of lorazepam may already have an effect on stabilizing!

 

 

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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13 minutes ago, Go2zero said:

What do you mean. Tapering the mirtezapine?

 

Of  course they say you can do it in 2 weeks. If that was true, this website did not have to exist. You and I would feel great after tapering too fast.

 

I hear you say that you are experiencing heavy WD symptoms from all kind of meds you took. It is not even to say from which meds. Probably the total combination. You write you are thinking of suicide now and then. This is most probably a WD symptom also. Lots of members experience that now and then.

 

Are you serious in wanting to stop Lorazepam (which you should I think) and mess everything uo with a too fast taper of mirtazapine?

 

It is up to you what you want. You decide. But if I were you I would leave the mirtezapine (5mg is not a high dosage) at this level. You need to stabilize. We told you that often. The tapering of lorazepam may already have an effect on stabilizing!

 

 

 

 

No, i mean the reduction of Lorazepam. In the Hospital they said they do IT in two weeks

But i dont think that would me stabilisate, because it makes the Akathisia better. So i have the possibilty to stay in my bed, this wasnt possible before

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

No, i mean the reduction of Lorazepam. In the Hospital they said they do IT in two weeks

 

Yes, that should be possible if you start tapering as soon as possible.

 

3 hours ago, Go2zero said:

I advise to taper the lorazepam down to zero over a period of 1-2 weeks. 2,5 mg per day is a high doses!

 

Go back to 1,5 mg first for 2 days, then 1mg for 2-3 days, then 0,5mg for 3-4 days, then 0,25mg for 3-4 days, then 0,1 mg for 2-3 days and STOP.

 

This is quite a fast taper, but you were not too long on it. The longer you stay on it the more difficult it may get to get off!

This is what I suggested. It is also 2 weeks

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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16 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

But i dont think that would me stabilisate, because it makes the Akathisia better. So i have the possibilty to stay in my bed, this wasnt possible before

 

I do not understand what you are saying here....

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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I dont Believer that reducing Lorazepam will stabilisate me.

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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I Believe i feel more save in the Hospital... I.   think they took Diazepam

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

I Believe i feel more save in the Hospital... I.   think they took Diazepam

 

So you want to go to hospital again and then take diazapam. If you choose to mess up your central nervous system that is a good way to do it.

 

You wrote what cocktail of meds they gave you last time in hospital. And it messed you up completely. That is the way most doctors do it. And therefor so many people end up in this website.

 

If that is the way you want to go.... It is your choice. I am afraid it will make everything more worse and longer lasting. But you have to decide what you want. And what you believe.

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Ok,

 

i rEAd THAT DIAzEPAM IS SOFTeR BECAUSe ITS HALFTIME IS LONGer

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

i rEAd THAT DIAzEPAM IS SOFTeR BECAUSe ITS HALFTIME IS LONGer

 

And therefor it is even more addictive! It stays longer in your system and builds up and builds up....

 

If you want to stabilize and heal, you should stop taking benzodiazepines. You have been taking them for a relatively short time. So now you still have the chance to get away from them.

 

Benzodiazepines are often harder to stop than SSRI's....

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1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.