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6 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Had a really productive day today, probably the most productive one in a minute. 

Awesome. Those days feel good! It’s a good sign.

7 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Kinda terrified about the idea of doing a cut before my interview.  I'm dull witted and hangoverish now, but it's the devil I know.  I think I'll just stick with the plan and do the cut, anybody would have nerves right now.   I'll think about it on the plane though.   

Curious whether you did cuts with the previous assessments? You went well on them…. Is it optimal to do a cut or would you be ‘good enough’ if you didn’t do one? Every time you’ve done a cut in the past though you’ve been elevated for a few days after haven’t you? No reason it would be any different this time. If for some strange reason it was would you have time to reinstate?

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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Thanks for asking about this.  You're cleverly forcing me to use the rational part of my brain 😆   I felt better during the elevated phase, but was I really performing better or was it just distorted perception?  Honestly, I can't say that it wasn't.  I'm going to be required to do complicated tests that require patience and I'm kinda afraid I'll freak out if I'm elevated, but honestly I have more irritability when I'm in WD Normal like I am now, with the head pressure and stuff.   

 

Looking back at my notes, I'm not sure I want to risk it.  At least I'm predictably sluggish right now rather than unpredictably energetic.   

 

You have any experience with this?  Any thoughts?  I can put the decision back a day if necessary.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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3 minutes ago, j1290 said:

You have any experience with this?  Any thoughts?  I can put the decision back a day if necessary.

I don’t have experience unfortunately but I do have thoughts. If you can put the decision back a day I’d wait until you’re committed one way or another.

Ultimately I think the safest bet is to be in whatever state you’ve been in during the previous assessments. You’ve done well those times so you know that state works.

You also want to be calm and able to think things through rather than impulsive I think.

Is it the same people assessing you each time? If you’ve appeared calm and thoughtful previously and then you appear elevated and impulsive it may make you seem a little unpredictable (this may not be the case and they may not even be able to tell the difference but I’m just thinking this through). 
As for your irritability you hide it very well. Having said that I understand you have the chance to edit your posts on here and don’t in real life. I think go with whatever state you’ve been in previously.

 

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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Thanks, Thorin!   You bring up great points.   I wish I could rock The Hat but I think its too much for a dress casual interview.  That's for tux only.  

 

I can pull off short interactions OK but a full day is going to be a real test.  Im afraid of impulsiveness too, both with or without a cut.  I'll think about it more. Will keep you posted!

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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9 hours ago, j1290 said:

Thanks, Thorin!   You bring up great points.   I wish I could rock The Hat but I think its too much for a dress casual interview.  That's for tux only.  

Nah man I reckon you should wear the hat. I doubt any other contenders will be wearing one and it might just put you ahead of the rest 😂

 

9 hours ago, j1290 said:

can pull off short interactions OK but a full day is going to be a real test.  Im afraid of impulsiveness too, both with or without a cut.  I'll think about it more. Will keep you posted

Good luck whatever you choose!

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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So glad to hear about your productive window and good feelings! 

 

14 hours ago, j1290 said:

I can pull off short interactions OK but a full day is going to be a real test.  Im afraid of impulsiveness too, both with or without a cut.  I'll think about it more. Will keep you posted!

 

This is a tough call! What are you leaning towards? Sometimes I'll imagine the situation and really play it out in my head: how would I feel on one dosage doing the thing, how would I feel on the lower dose.

 

Either way, no matter what you choose, you're prepared for this interview and will likely knock it out of the park. Cheering you on!! Is it happening tomorrow?

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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On 3/15/2023 at 7:20 PM, j1290 said:

I felt better during the elevated phase, but was I really performing better or was it just distorted perception?

Hi John. For my 2 cents on this decision, maybe try reading over your posts when you’ve just made a cut and see what you think of yourself? Last time you cut I seem to recall that you were dancing around the Warehouse of Doom in the middle of the night having a blast.  You certainly sounded very relaxed and happy. I don’t know what kind of position you’re going for, and whether a serious thoughtful demeanour is better or worse than a very confident cheerful jokey one under the circumstances. With the tests, do you perform better with regular ol’ anxiety or the confidence of being elevated? Personally I tend to second guess myself a lot so being elevated would be better for me, but obviously only you can answer that for you. 
 

Whatever you decide, we’re all cheering for you!

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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Thank you all for the help!   I'm slammed with travel and preparations.  To be honest I took my regular dose today this morning (3am my west coast time-oof) and wasn't thinking so that sealed the deal.   I'll let you know on Sunday if it was the right move or not because I'm going to reduce on Saturday.   My body clock is so upside down with these schedule shifts this week probably better not to introduce another variable with results that might not be the best.  

 

For the record, yes, I am definitely at Hogwarts.   Quite a journey!   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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2 hours ago, j1290 said:

My body clock is so upside down with these schedule shifts this week probably better not to introduce another variable with results that might not be the best.  

Sounds wise 👍🏻

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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DAY 27  3/10 cotton brain, dull witted, usual weird head sensations.   Had the all day interview at the secret location today.   Pshew.   I presented well, and I'm mostly happy with my performance.  I think I would have done better on one section with a sharper mind, but I was adequate on the other 4 sections or so.  I surprised myself how well I did in lots of different areas, all things considered.  I'm going to do a cut tomorrow and I guess we'll see if that would have been the better way to go, but maybe the uncertainty would have boosted my anxiety, so, my guess is it's a wash.   

 

Thank you all for your support!  I might hear something in a month.  Truly it's an honor just to be considered, and next year might be a better fit for various reasons anyway if I don't make the cut.  I'm not 100% sure it's the best decision for me.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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Day 1   2/10 Better today after some rest and adjisting to the time chamge.  I can feel the emotionality and some elevation or lack or crappiness feeling from doing a cut already. Really glad to be on a lower dose and making progress.  I expect to feel better as I get farther away from 150 mg and Im at 100 now.   I remember when getting to 300 mg seemed like a dream, and now 100 is too much.  Funny how that works.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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1 hour ago, j1290 said:

I remember when getting to 300 mg seemed like a dream, and now 100 is too much.  Funny how that works.  

 

That's how I feel about Gabapentin! Funny how our bodies adjust, which is a positive sign now that I think about it.

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

I can feel the emotionality and some elevation or lack or crappiness feeling from doing a cut already. Really glad to be on a lower dose and making progress.

 

Probably good you went full dose for interview day! Hope it passes soon.

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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DAY 2  3/10 Actually mostly fine but irritable now, probably for travel related reasons so it's tough to say, but been in good spirits overall.   I try to accept that hypomania is part of the tapering deal but this particular symptom I find irksome.  I think overall I've been a little more emotional than normal, also right on track for day 2.   Had a great conversation with someone very important to me that I couldn't have had when I was on the full boat 450 mg of Welly B.  Super glad to be down to 100 mg if I can hold it, but at the same time hate that I'm not lower 😜.   Whatevs though I'm moving in the right direction.  I'm going to study my notes but I hope that my conclusion is that I can taper every 3 weeks, if not 2.   If symptoms remain trending towards being significantly reduced then I'll give it a shot.    Who knows, maybe things'll get really squirrley below 50mg but I'm not going to worry about it till it happens.  

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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4 hours ago, j1290 said:

I'm not going to worry about it till it happens

Love that positivity!

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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10 hours ago, j1290 said:

I try to accept that hypomania is part of the tapering deal but this particular symptom I find irksome.

 

Ugh, hate how amped up this can make me feel! Do you get happy feelings with the hypomania?

 

10 hours ago, j1290 said:

Actually mostly fine but irritable now, probably for travel related reasons so it's tough to say, but been in good spirits overall.

 

I was wondering about this, travel alone can be disruptive but you also had a change in sleep schedule!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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5 hours ago, littlebird said:

Ugh, hate how amped up this can make me feel! Do you get happy feelings with the hypomania?

Yeah, but it's chemicall-y and I know it's false, which is what irks me.  How about yourself?   

 

5 hours ago, littlebird said:

I was wondering about this, travel alone can be disruptive but you also had a change in sleep schedule!

I traveled all day and then worked all night then did a paper when I got home while I was falling asleep.  Hope its good enough LOL 

 

10 hours ago, Fifree said:

Love that positivity!

I'm joining the birb club.  Can't let you all have all the fun!

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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7 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Yeah, but it's chemicall-y and I know it's false, which is what irks me.  How about yourself?   

 

Not happy, but I have other emotional blunting things at play so maybe that's affecting it. More excited/agitated, but it feels false. Like you said, chemical-esque, like I'd taken an upper.

 

8 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I traveled all day and then worked all night then did a paper when I got home while I was falling asleep.  Hope its good enough LOL 

 

DUDE, how? You're a superhuman. Hope you get to catch up on sleep and rest!

 

10 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I'm joining the birb club. 

 

Birb Club!! Yaaaay 🕊️🦤🐣

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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3 minutes ago, littlebird said:

More excited/agitated, but it feels false. Like you said, chemical-esque, like I'd taken an upper.

Grrrrr so frustrating to present myself in an unstable shape like that.  Whatevs, I'll be off these one day.   

 

4 minutes ago, littlebird said:

DUDE, how? You're a superhuman. Hope you get to catch up on sleep and rest!

I caught up on Saturday, so I'm pretty good still.  I felt special at the interview, like I was a rockstar, and now I'm back to the daily grind and being a cog in the machine.  That's harder to adjust to LOL  All good things in all good time.   I still have a lot of medicine to get off of before I'll be at my best.  Exciting to think about, though.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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21 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Grrrrr so frustrating to present myself in an unstable shape like that.

 

Chances are good no one noticed but you! Sounds like it went really well, and we've talked before about masking. Not always a good thing, but comes in handy in high pressure situations. Focus on the good moments! Did you say it'll be a month till you hear?

 

22 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I still have a lot of medicine to get off of before I'll be at my best.  Exciting to think about, though.

 

You've come so far already, you'll be there before you know it. ☀️

 

24 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I caught up on Saturday, so I'm pretty good still.  I felt special at the interview, like I was a rockstar, and now I'm back to the daily grind and being a cog in the machine.

 

I hope you find that rockstar feeling again soon! Hard to come back to the day to day grind after something big like that. Glad you're making the most of your nightly cogdom with music and jungle room!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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30 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Chances are good no one noticed but you! Sounds like it went really well, and we've talked before about masking. Not always a good thing, but comes in handy in high pressure situations. Focus on the good moments! Did you say it'll be a month till you hear?

Thanks, LB!  I think a lot of situations are like a weightlifting competition - work with me here.  You don't know who will be show up, how many other people in your weight class, you can only put on your personal best performance.  You're only competing against yourself.  So in that framing, I'm satisfied with my performance and improvements.   Yes, I should hear something in around a month, maybe.  

 

35 minutes ago, littlebird said:

You've come so far already, you'll be there before you know it. ☀️

That's right!  Gotta practice living in the now.  You just reminded me, in the next week or two I can have a pill bottle throwing out ceremony!   I've got all these 150mg pills I'm not going to need if I can hold on to where I'm at now.  That'll be fun.  

 

37 minutes ago, littlebird said:

I hope you find that rockstar feeling again soon! Hard to come back to the day to day grind after something big like that. Glad you're making the most of your nightly cogdom with music and jungle room!

Oh it totally is.  They blow smoke up your *** and you know that's what it is, but I'm human and look nobody at my day to day job treats me like that LOL   I actually just read a book by an insider that says people get out of the profession because when they leave training it's too harsh a transition when they're no longer treated as special.  Totally makes sense.  

 

I'm not feeling elevated now to rock out to Morrissey in the jungle room tonight.  Dunno if it's jetlag or because I'm on a lower dose of pills, but my hunch is I'm going to continue to get less side effects as I taper down.   That's fine by me.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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1 hour ago, j1290 said:

Yeah, but it's chemicall-y and I know it's false, which is what irks me.  How about yourself? 

Can relate to this. Doesn’t matter for me whether it’s a good or bad feeling. If it’s caused by the meds or withdrawal, at this stage I don’t want it.

 

14 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I'm satisfied with my performance and improvements.   Yes, I should hear something in around a month, maybe.  

That’s awesome man. When it comes down to it if you’re satisfied you did your best then you can’t ask for any more.

 

1 hour ago, j1290 said:

I felt special at the interview, like I was a rockstar, and now I'm back to the daily grind and being a cog in the machine. 

Ah yes, the ‘back to normal life blues’ I feel it frequently. Actually get it bad enough that I’m strongly considering looking for a new career.

 

17 minutes ago, j1290 said:

but my hunch is I'm going to continue to get less side effects as I taper down.

Surely that will be the case. Good things coming!

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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37 minutes ago, j1290 said:

You're only competing against yourself.  So in that framing, I'm satisfied with my performance and improvements.

 

Love this mindset!! Super healthy. Gonna put this in my back pocket.

 

42 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Yes, I should hear something in around a month, maybe.  

 

Is it just me, or is that a really long time? Guess with all that data from the grueling interview process they have a lot to go through, but still! Give my man John the call that he's got it, stat, please.

 

37 minutes ago, j1290 said:

You just reminded me, in the next week or two I can have a pill bottle throwing out ceremony!

 

Ooh, fun! I love a bit of ceremony, pomp, and circumstance. Are you doing anything to mark the occasion? 

 

38 minutes ago, j1290 said:

I actually just read a book by an insider that says people get out of the profession because when they leave training it's too harsh a transition when they're no longer treated as special.  Totally makes sense.

 

This makes a lot of sense! I've felt that too. Feels special and nice to be told, "You're a fast learner" and get positive reinforcement while learning, then when I'm on my own doing the thing I miss the little boosts and attention!

 

Hm... makes me think that if I ever manage others again, I'm going to sprinkle in so many positive statements and compliments. Hope I did that when I managed in the past, really can't remember.

 

21 minutes ago, Thorin said:
2 hours ago, j1290 said:

Yeah, but it's chemicall-y and I know it's false, which is what irks me.  How about yourself? 

Can relate to this. Doesn’t matter for me whether it’s a good or bad feeling. If it’s caused by the meds or withdrawal, at this stage I don’t want it.

 

Funny how these feelings are able to be felt with more clarity. I'm becoming more aware of what's a neuro-emotion, and what's from me. Part of it is where it lives in the body, things that feel like they came from the heart-space also usually feel like the real me.

 

Can't wait to be clear of chemicals and know that whatever is coming up is genuine! I'm so curious who I am and what I really naturally feel under all this mess.

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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8 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Is it just me, or is that a really long time?

Haha when you consider I submitted my hand written application 9 months ago, it's par for the course.  I'm applying for a job in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory 🤣

It's a unique situation for sure.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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6 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Haha when you consider I submitted my hand written application 9 months ago, it's par for the course.  I'm applying for a job in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory 🤣

It's a unique situation for sure.

 

What the... 9 months? Oh wow, this place lumbers! Sounds like you've made it through a number of stages to get where you are, which means you're a flipping champ.

 

Hope the chocolate factory comes through! A whole month of wondering, ai-yi-yi, hopefully you've got some fun distractions in the meantime!

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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29 minutes ago, littlebird said:

unny how these feelings are able to be felt with more clarity. I'm becoming more aware of what's a neuro-emotion, and what's from me. Part of it is where it lives in the body, things that feel like they came from the heart-space also usually feel like the real me.

It’s a very strange experience as your body slowly acclimatises to the lack of meds. I think I was feeling maybe 10% of the few emotions I was capable of feeling on the meds. Now I feel nearly 100% of ALL the emotions. I feel emotions with my whole body now. It’s very strange… or they ‘effect’ my whole body now….

 

31 minutes ago, littlebird said:

Can't wait to be clear of chemicals and know that whatever is coming up is genuine! I'm so curious who I am and what I really naturally feel under all this mess.

Same same same. It’s scary but more and more I feel ‘authentic’ and ‘real’ rather than a medicated robot like I was previously.

 

13 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

22 minutes ago, j1290 said:

Haha when you consider I submitted my hand written application 9 months ago, it's par for the course.  I'm applying for a job in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory 🤣

It's a unique situation for sure.

 

What the... 9 months? Oh wow, this place lumbers! Sounds like you've made it through a number of stages to get where you are, which means you're a flipping champ.

 

Oh wow 9 months? I’m loving the dedication I’m seeing here. Despite your current difficult situation (WD from meds) you’ve seen something you want and you’re going for it. Respect!

Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine
Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg
Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day
About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride 
About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day
About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine.
Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks).
Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension.

Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg;

Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Milk Kefir, Mag, Omega 3, CBD/THC.

 

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2 hours ago, Thorin said:

If it’s caused y the meds or withdrawal, at this stage I don’t want it.

100 percent this.  

 

2 hours ago, Thorin said:

When it comes down to it if you’re satisfied you did your best then you can’t ask for any more.

That's really what it all comes down to.   What else could I ask

 

2 hours ago, Thorin said:

Actually get it bad enough that I’m strongly considering looking for a new career.

Your current one sounds pretty cool.  I've heard a few people say they wish they never moved up to management. 

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

Ooh, fun! I love a bit of ceremony, pomp, and circumstance. Are you doing anything to mark the occasion? 

I'd like to but I don't know what to do.  Any thoughts?

 

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

Feels  spe cial and nice to be told, "You're a fast learner"

haha oh god,they told me that too and I ate it up!!!!  😂

 

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

then when I'm on my own doing the thing I miss the little boosts and attention!

 

Totally!  A good manager sprinkles those in where appropriate.  Unfortunately most people aren't good managers 😄  Im sure you were, however!

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

came from the heart-space also usually feel like the real me.

Right.  Neruo emotions feel slightly motivated by me but distorted and exaggerated.  So freaking weird to have intrusive emotions.

 

2 hours ago, littlebird said:

Can't wait to be clear of chemicals and know that whatever is coming up is genuine!

One day soon, LB.  One day!

 

1 hour ago, Thorin said:

Despite your current difficult situation (WD from meds) you’ve seen something you want and you’re going for it. Respect!

Thanks man.  I'm quickly approavhing a low enough dose of meds that I will be able to funvtion well enough to take on new challenges.  I can't wait.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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DAY 03   3/10 headaches and irritability.  My guesstimate is jetlag plays a part, but I think as I reduce from these lower levels that I'm going to feel more and more just physical effects like what I am today.  I'm down to below the starting theraputic dose so it stands to reason I'm going to get more effects related to physical addiction than the vivid dreams and emotionality.  This is usually a hypomanic day and I'm maybe a little elevated but nothing too significant.  Mostly just aggro because of headache and pressure.   No big but annoying.   I really want to indulge in complaining but that's giving the symptoms too much power.  I'll close with my evergreen desire to be at the next reduction already.  Fingers crossed I really will feel less symptoms when I get to 70 mg and below.

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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DAY 4 Really missing the hypomania.  I think.  Just feeling 3/10 headache/pressure.  Tolerable but a real *******.  I'm at 2/3rd a theraputic dose, so I don't think there is a ton in the way of psych symptoms left.  Some things felt a little more vivid today, I might have felt a little bit elated.  I've no idea if this is my new wd normal or it's a side effect of tapering.  Guess time will tell.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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DAY 5 3/10 Headache/pressure/irritability, took 1/2 Clonodine.  

I can't shake the headache and irritability that I've had since Day 2.  I think I'm transitioning from the psych WD to more just physical WD, seeing as the emotional stuff has trended down.  I guess I'm still at almost 1.3 pills per day, so it makes sense that I still have symptoms.   Come think of it, the head lockup and other assorted nightmare fuel symptoms have eased up considerably.  I think the headache and pressure is just the lower powered version of that, which indicates that it will eventually go away.    I haven't had head spikes or needed sumatriptan hardly at all.  It's just difficult to be patient.  

 

I'm switching it up to 14 days between drops, and if I can tolerate that, in one month I very well might be down to a low enough dose that I won't even need the headache hat anymore.   Or I might find out I'm going to have to continue to taper for years at a snails pace.   I'm actually kind of optomistic that I won't need to, but at least some what prepared if my hopes are shattered.   As best I can tell the transport curve or whatever the heck that is starts around 25-50 mg for Bup, and many people don't have a problem with it at all.  

 

I started writing up my success story today.  I got a pretty good rough draft.   I've been doing this so slowly, and I'm down to 100mg, I'm not too worried about rebound.  I'll be careful, but I would have seen something by now if I were going to collapse into depression I think.   Maybe I should give it a year but I think a few months after the last pill I should have a pretty good idea of where I stand.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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Hypomania is good while it lasts. Then you get to mop up the consequences lol

 

glad it's going so well that you're considering dropping every two weeks.

 

Will you set fire to your pill bottles, headache hats, pill boxes etc at the end of all this?

 

go well!

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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12 minutes ago, Fifree said:

Hypomania is good while it lasts. Then you get to mop up the consequences lol

This made me LOL  Yeah hypomania is way overrated.  

 

14 minutes ago, Fifree said:

glad it's going so well that you're considering dropping every two weeks.

Gonna give it a shot.  I did 3 weeks the other day and it was fine, so I'm going to push the envelope a little bit.  I might be closer to the end of this thing than I realize.   

18 minutes ago, Fifree said:

Will you set fire to your pill bottles, headache hats, pill boxes etc at the end of all this?

Great question!  If I had a convenient way to do it, I might.   I actually almost tossed a bottle out tonight but figured I better make sure I can hold this level before I do.   I bet I have 15 bottles of pills I could toss when I'm through!   I have a car/office/home set of bottles.   Can you even imagine being able to leave town and not worry about having pills?!?  I dare to dream.  

 

I think I'll just bag all my pills/notebook/liquid tapering stuff and toss it all and forget it ever happened.  Like most people who recover around here, they never seem to come back LOL

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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Hey there jl290,

Just peaking in, and wondering what are you doing?

Am I reading your signature correctly January 28th of this year Wellbutrin immediate release you went from 262 mg to 190 mg a whopping 27% taper

4 weeks, 2 days later down again by 26%

And then most recently went for a 29% drop from 140 mg to 100 mg

With symptoms felt immediately.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, j1290 said:

DAY 5 3/10 Headache/pressure/irritability, took 1/2 Clonodine.  

I can't shake the headache and irritability that I've had since Day 2.  I think I'm transitioning from the psych WD to more just physical WD, seeing as the emotional stuff has trended down.  I guess I'm still at almost 1.3 pills per day, so it makes sense that I still have symptoms.   Come think of it, the head lockup and other assorted nightmare fuel symptoms have eased up considerably.  I think the headache and pressure is just the lower powered version of that, which indicates that it will eventually go away.    I haven't had head spikes or needed sumatriptan hardly at all.  It's just difficult to be patient.  

 

I'm switching it up to 14 days between drops, and if I can tolerate that, in one month I very well might be down to a low enough dose that I won't even need the headache hat anymore.   Or I might find out I'm going to have to continue to taper for years at a snails pace.   I'm actually kind of optomistic that I won't need to, but at least some what prepared if my hopes are shattered.   As best I can tell the transport curve or whatever the heck that is starts around 25-50 mg for Bup, and many people don't have a problem with it at all.  

 

I started writing up my success story today.  I got a pretty good rough draft.   I've been doing this so slowly, and I'm down to 100mg, I'm not too worried about rebound.  I'll be careful, but I would have seen something by now if I were going to collapse into depression I think.   Maybe I should give it a year but I think a few months after the last pill I should have a pretty good idea of where I stand.   

 

And......I don't understand why you would speed up these huge tapers to 2 weeks time now. 

Any logic to this at all?

Do tell.

 

Yes, you may crash and hard.  And it may not reverse quickly.  That is my concern.

 

You're making me nervous. 

Do tell more around this plan of yours.

Thank you kindly.  And thanks for your supporting others around here as well.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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On 3/21/2023 at 1:12 AM, j1290 said:
On 3/20/2023 at 10:48 PM, littlebird said:

Ooh, fun! I love a bit of ceremony, pomp, and circumstance. Are you doing anything to mark the occasion? 

I'd like to but I don't know what to do.  Any thoughts?

 

Hmmm... maybe each bottle you toss in the recycling, you can think of a symptom the meds gave you you're glad to be free of. Maybe followed up with something affirming, like thinking or writing about how you want to feel on the other side of these. Followed by some cake, of course! 

Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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7 minutes ago, littlebird said:

 

Hmmm... maybe each bottle you toss in the recycling, you can think of a symptom the meds gave you you're glad to be free of. Maybe followed up with something affirming, like thinking or writing about how you want to feel on the other side of these. Followed by some cake, of course! 

You are a genius!  I absolutely love this idea!  Cake is mandatory, this is a celebration!

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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4 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Thank you kindly.  And thanks for your supporting others around here as well.

You may be right, you bring up some great points, and I'm going to consider them as I compose a reply.   

I am not a doctor and do not offer any medical advice, only my own experience.  Consult your physician.

2011-2015 tapered off 300MG of Effexor.  Back in the Paxil Progress days.  No rebound.   

2005-2021:  450 mg Bupropion XL Daily

2021 Buporopion May 450mg/June 400mg/July 375mg/Aug 10th 360mg/

2021 Dec - 150mg IR, 3x day = 450mg Bup, Heritage manufacturer-yellow color pill. 

2022 May 3 - 3 x 150mg IR Bup, Avet brand(pharmacist said they merged with Heritage-orange color) -migraines

REINSTATED-BACK TO MY LAST STABLE DOSE/TIME RELEASE

2022 June 5 - switched back to 3 x 150mg XL one time per day= 450 mg total Bup-Apotex brand

CURRENT TAPER 2022 Aug 31 - 450MG to 412MG IR Bup//Sep. 28, 2022: 412mg to 375mg//Oct 26, 2022: 375mg to 365 mg//Nov 21, 2022: 365mg to 327mg//Dec 27, 2022: 327 mg to 290 mg//Dec 31, 2022:  290mg to 262mg//Jan 28, 2023:  262mg to 190mg//Feb. 19, 2023:  190mg to 140mg//Mar. 18, '23:  140mg to 100mg//

 

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12 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Hey there jl290,

Just peaking in, and wondering what are you doing?

Am I reading your signature correctly January 28th of this year Wellbutrin immediate release you went from 262 mg to 190 mg a whopping 27% taper

4 weeks, 2 days later down again by 26%

And then most recently went for a 29% drop from 140 mg to 100 mg

With symptoms felt immediately.

 

 

 

 

And......I don't understand why you would speed up these huge tapers to 2 weeks time now. 

Any logic to this at all?

Do tell.

 

Yes, you may crash and hard.  And it may not reverse quickly.  That is my concern.

 

You're making me nervous. 

Do tell more around this plan of yours.

Thank you kindly.  And thanks for your supporting others around here as well.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

I do have to agree. I am so excited for you but now may be the time you will need to exercise patience more than ever. You have come so far. I am still trying to stabilize and once that happens I pray I can be slow and cautious with my taper. These symptoms aren't worth it. 

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/December 5&6 10mg Paroxetine/ December 8&9 2022 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg magnesium bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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