Parisien: premature ejaculation escitalopram 10mg and Brintellix 5mg - sexual dysfunction

[Parisien]

It's hard weaning really hard I understand you.  How long do you give yourself to recover?  Personally I am 31 years old, if at my 34 years old I have not recovered.  That I feel in a brain fog like this that my sexuality is still the same I will consider other alternatives

[Parisien]

@Avicii is that in 15 months mental level you are always disconnected from people and you always have a brain fog or is it better at this level?

[canaanstongue01]

5 hours ago, Parisien said:

Hello everyone, I would like to hear from everyone who has already posted here, how are you??

 

i haven't improved much at all. i'm 9 months out from my last dose of lexapro but i am also still tapering valium. still have heavy anhedonia, apathy, lack of motivation. still have PE and diminished orgasms. some days i can accept it and other days it takes everything i have to not kill myself.

[Avicii]

I don’t want to put a time limit, the most important thing is that I see improvements and I am doing that! 
 

I am gonna focus on other things in life, today I invited 30 kids to a tenniscamp. There is so much life feel inside of me and I am not going to lie in my bed all day even if my life is upside down at the moment.

[Fairsome]

I actually have the opposite to premature ejaculation. I have almost anorgasmia and it's hard for me to get any orgasm. I am still not able to take on my trainings, the fatigue and everything is just too much. 

 

Mentally, I struggle greatly. I still can't forgive myself for trusting the stupid doctors and taking these poisons. I had no idea at all how much damage these pills could cause, I thought cases like ours are extremely rare... The fact that we don't know exactly how these drugs work and what's going on in our brains, makes me very scared. But the sucess stories out there and also knowing that our bodies are capable of healing pretty much everything, keep me alive. I hope that we all will heal, if so many people heal within some months or years, why can't we too?

[Avicii]

1 hour ago, Parisien said:

@Avicii is that in 15 months mental level you are always disconnected from people and you always have a brain fog or is it better at this level?

It’s better, I turned that corner around 12 months. I still don’t have the power to have a social life outside my work but I can connect with people a bit easier now.

 

it’s more Windows and Waves now, one minute I want to climb mount Everest and Phone everyone I know and the next minute I want to die…

[canaanstongue01]

i was on these drugs for so much longer than you all... damn...

[Fairsome]

Guys, do you also have pelvic floor dysfunction? I honestly believe that's where all of our problems are located. @Parisien @canaanstongue01 @Avicii 

[Parisien]

I don't know for the pelvic floor it's possible.  I try to concentrate on work and sport and I let time do things.  Hoping that it gets better one day than those are level of brain fog concentration and sexuality.  Have you ever tested priligy for premature ejaculation?

[Avicii]

I guess there is pelvic floor dusfunction because everything is dysfunctional from my waist down my feet. Hopefully it will go back to normal again when the brain is healed…

[canaanstongue01]

6 hours ago, Fairsome said:

Guys, do you also have pelvic floor dysfunction?

i get pelvic floor spasms. waiting until i am done with benzo wds before i get it checked out because i know it is common

[Avicii]

I also get spasms, the first 12 months it was pretty much constant together with a dysfunctinal bladder. Nowadays I only get spasms a couple of times a week.

[Fairsome]

I also have pelvic floor spasms. I would describe them as very unpleasant feelings from my waist down (constant pressure) and urges to hit the toilet. Somehow our gut-brain axis is damaged, I guess. I also have tight sensations in the muscles in the gut, sometimes problems urinating, pain in my genitals and total erectile dysfunction.

 

It's so bad to live with this condition, it takes all of my energy and life. I feel like my brain is recovering from a very bad car crash

[Fairsome]

Our posts got deleted, maybe because the forum crashed.

 

Anyway, I am having a really bad day. I literally can't read a single paragraph of text today, the brain fog is unbearable. I would do literally everything to get my old life back

[canaanstongue01]

1 hour ago, Fairsome said:

Our posts got deleted, maybe because the forum crashed.

 

Anyway, I am having a really bad day. I literally can't read a single paragraph of text today, the brain fog is unbearable. I would do literally everything to get my old life back

what posts? i can still see the PVD posts…

 

sorry to hear that, i am there almost every day with the brain fog. i really miss reading. i can’t even pay attention to movies or tv shows. 

[Fairsome]

From my email: 

 

Parisien:

"Guys, did you stop your treatment suddenly or gradually?  Because I really feel elsewhere and tired since the sudden stop 4 months ago.  I wonder if I shouldn't reintegrate to gradually reduce .. even if I don't really want to take this **** again.  I wonder if I stay like this how long the brain fog and feeling somewhere else and disconnected how long will it last.  Because here I am in pain"

 

Avicii:

"I quit cold turkey….

 

I am suicidal today, I don’t see any meaning with this evil world anymore.

 

Take away a mans libido/sexuality and you will destroy him…."

 

Nicros:

"Hello. As always, please excuse me answering so late. Yesterday I made my next step down from 5mg escitalopram to 2,5mg. I became relatively tense in the late afternoon after not having noticed a change during the day. Slept well enough though, but I still take melatonin and doxepin for that.

 

There are definitely hard days and better days. On my better days I even become tempted to quit cold turkey and to hell will all the meds. On worse days I am tempted to just up my dose to what it was in the beginning and to hell with quitting. I have to fight very hard to resist this urge. Having my emotions back is kind of hard sometimes...

 

I want to congratulate on having not taken anything for four months. Hope you will be able to keep it that way. I'll keep my fingers crossed!"

 

[canaanstongue01]

On 5/1/2022 at 4:06 PM, Fairsome said:

Parisien:

"Guys, did you stop your treatment suddenly or gradually?  Because I really feel elsewhere and tired since the sudden stop 4 months ago.  I wonder if I shouldn't reintegrate to gradually reduce .. even if I don't really want to take this **** again.  I wonder if I stay like this how long the brain fog and feeling somewhere else and disconnected how long will it last.  Because here I am in pain"

 @Parisieni have this thought too even though i am between 9 and 10 months off. i got off very quickly and then started tapering another drug with similar withdrawal symptoms, which i am still doing

 

On 5/1/2022 at 4:06 PM, Fairsome said:

Nicros:

"Hello. As always, please excuse me answering so late. Yesterday I made my next step down from 5mg escitalopram to 2,5mg.

@Nicros do you still have PE?

 

On 5/1/2022 at 4:06 PM, Fairsome said:

Avicii:

"I quit cold turkey….

 

I am suicidal today, I don’t see any meaning with this evil world anymore.

 

Take away a mans libido/sexuality and you will destroy him…."

@Avicii this is how i feel today. i wish i had something more encouraging to say...

[Fairsome]

I can't understand how some people say things like sex is not everything etc. Your sexuality is a huge part of your identity, it is your drive, energy, creativity, even soul and so on. Without these you are a walking zombie. Basically antidepressants completely disrupt not just your body and nervous system, but also the connection with your higher self.

[Avicii]

6 hours ago, Fairsome said:

I can't understand how some people say things like sex is not everything etc. Your sexuality is a huge part of your identity, it is your drive, energy, creativity, even soul and so on. Without these you are a walking zombie. Basically antidepressants completely disrupt not just your body and nervous system, but also the connection with your higher self.

Agree 100%…

[Parisien]

Hi guys, how are you?  @ben190 news how is it changing for you??  Me I have good news gave for once its changes a little lol I went back to work and it did me a lot of good.  No more insomnia at all, I sleep straight away without waking up at night.  I think working to get up and go to bed at regular times was what I needed to settle.  I still have a brain fog but much less I can already better connect to people to be attentive and focused.  In the afternoon after work I go for a run or a walk or see friends or my family and it does me a lot of good, I must never be alone otherwise it's a descent into hell.  My emotions are coming back a little bit and I'm in a much better mood since I've been active.  I will therefore not resume treatment, I think that it will get better and better.  Maybe it's just a 5 day window but it feels good to feel alive again.  Everything is not perfect but I was so bad not to go out ruminated, etc. that it was not good at all.  Sexually, on the other hand, I haven't tried it again since, so I don't know if it's better or not at this level.  My self-confidence must really come back and I hope to see an improvement at this level

[Parisien]

For precision I am soon 5 months of full stop

[Avicii]

Great to hear @Parisien

 

Sounds like your symptoms aren’t as severe as mine if you already can workout, socialise etc.

 

I am starting to give up, I don’t have much more to give….

 

My mind is blank, I have Zero sexuality, Zero libido, constant pressure from my waist down my feet, total anhedonia and so on. Can’t believe I have lost all my life because of this.…15 months in and so small improvements. I am starting to realise that I am never gonna be the same person again. 
 

Are you there @Ben190?? I would really want to know how you felt 15 months in?!

[Fairsome]

54 minutes ago, Avicii said:

My mind is blank, I have Zero sexuality, Zero libido, constant pressure from my waist down my feet, total anhedonia and so on. Can’t believe I have lost all my life because of this.…15 months in and so small improvements. I am starting to realise that I am never gonna be the same person again. 

I can totally relate to all of this... I used to be very energetic and full of life, libido was very high, now I can barely get out of bed or eat, I feel so sick and dead inside. I have almost stopped taking care of myself. I am hoping for a miracle to happen - I don't think I will be able to go like this for many years... It is so hard to believe that just taking these pills could destroy us like that and it's a evidence that they should be illegal! 

 

How could I be so stupid to take this poison as scientific research clearly shows that these drugs work no better than placebo... I wasn't even that depressed. Even my worst days before that sh-it, were a heaven compared to this ongoing suffering... 

[Ben190]

3 hours ago, Avicii said:

Great to hear @Parisien

 

Sounds like your symptoms aren’t as severe as mine if you already can workout, socialise etc.

 

I am starting to give up, I don’t have much more to give….

 

My mind is blank, I have Zero sexuality, Zero libido, constant pressure from my waist down my feet, total anhedonia and so on. Can’t believe I have lost all my life because of this.…15 months in and so small improvements. I am starting to realise that I am never gonna be the same person again. 
 

Are you there @Ben190?? I would really want to know how you felt 15 months in?!

Hey Avicii, I felt totally terrible. I am also in a struggle because too much stress in life takes up my symptoms at the moment. I felt like complete **** for the first 18 months.

 

 

[Avicii]

On 5/7/2022 at 9:41 PM, Ben190 said:

Hey Avicii, I felt totally terrible. I am also in a struggle because too much stress in life takes up my symptoms at the moment. I felt like complete **** for the first 18 months.

 

 

Sorry to hear that…what are your symptoms now?

 

Are you 3 years off?

[Avicii]

On 5/7/2022 at 7:22 PM, Fairsome said:

I can totally relate to all of this... I used to be very energetic and full of life, libido was very high, now I can barely get out of bed or eat, I feel so sick and dead inside. I have almost stopped taking care of myself. I am hoping for a miracle to happen - I don't think I will be able to go like this for many years... It is so hard to believe that just taking these pills could destroy us like that and it's a evidence that they should be illegal! 

 

How could I be so stupid to take this poison as scientific research clearly shows that these drugs work no better than placebo... I wasn't even that depressed. Even my worst days before that sh-it, were a heaven compared to this ongoing suffering... 

I agree, something must be done…it’s such a crime that these pills are legal. 
 

I feel you and can relate. I never dress up anymore, don’t shave and I prefer not to shower (don’t want to se my shrunk penis). My garden starts to look like a mess…I used to care about my garden, I don’t anymore.

 

I go to work and I give the kids food and that is pretty much what I do because I have no interest in doing anything else. NO libido, no life, no more friends because of this (I have no interest in them either…). Sometimes I hope that russia just invades Sweden so I can be killed in a bomb attack or something. I am not afraid of dying anymore, when your mind has no joy to offer then why should we even be alive. I only live because I don’t want to traumatise my kids…they are the ones still keeping me alive.

 

Sorry for my negative post but I start to realise that it’s game over for me…

[Parisien]

Salut les gars, @Avicii désolé que tu ailles mal en ce moment je sais que c'est pas facile d'être positif après il faut se dire qu'on a pas le choix c'est fait .. essaye de tout faire pour que  ta vie soi au mieux. @Ben190 tu nous avais dis que ton sexe avais aussi rétréci avant de reprendre une taille normale cela c'est produit au bout de combien de temps ?  Pour l'éjaculation précoce j'ai vue des histoires de réussite après 18 mois des personnes dire s'être amélioré et avoir des rapports sexuels convenables.  Faite vous du sport en ce moment ?  Je pense vraiment que sa aide même si c'est difficile globalement je le sais je suis au prix tout les jours avec la fatigue qui s'estompera je l'espère.  Moi je n'ai déjà plus d'insomnies c'est déjà ça mais le reste est dur à vivre au quotidien

[Parisien]

Hi guys, sorry @Avicii you go wrong right now I know it's not easy to be positive after we must say that we have no choice is made .. trying to do everything so that  your life so at best.  @Ben190 you we'd say your sex had also narrowed before resuming a normal size that is produced after how long?  For premature ejaculation I view success stories after 18 months of people say have improved and have proper sexual relationship.  You made the sport now?  I really think its help even if it is generally difficult I know I'm taking every day with fatigue that I hope will fade.  I already have more insomnia that's something but the rest is hard to live daily

[Avicii]

Of course we have to stay positive, we have no other choice. it’s just so hard when you have lost pretty much everything in your life because of ”harmless” pills….

 

i can’t believe how some of you can have partners together with this awful condition?! If I see a beautiful girl and I try to think sexual thoughts about her my whole body enters a state of chaos. It would be physical impossible for me to have sex…

 

I workout almost everyday now trying to get my brain and body back to normal. @Ben190did you see improvements along with you being able to workout again?

[Ben190]

30 minutes ago, Avicii said:

Of course we have to stay positive, we have no other choice. it’s just so hard when you have lost pretty much everything in your life because of ”harmless” pills….

 

i can’t believe how some of you can have partners together with this awful condition?! If I see a beautiful girl and I try to think sexual thoughts about her my whole body enters a state of chaos. It would be physical impossible for me to have sex…

 

I workout almost everyday now trying to get my brain and body back to normal. @Ben190did you see improvements along with you being able to workout again?

Yes for me it took nearly 2 years to able to function more and more. It was just taff...

[Ben190]

4 hours ago, Parisien said:

Hi guys, sorry @Avicii you go wrong right now I know it's not easy to be positive after we must say that we have no choice is made .. trying to do everything so that  your life so at best.  @Ben190 you we'd say your sex had also narrowed before resuming a normal size that is produced after how long?  For premature ejaculation I view success stories after 18 months of people say have improved and have proper sexual relationship.  You made the sport now?  I really think its help even if it is generally difficult I know I'm taking every day with fatigue that I hope will fade.  I already have more insomnia that's something but the rest is hard to live daily

For me I think the healing of PSSD began to start 1,5/2 years off, but I am still healing in this aspect

[Ben190]

5 hours ago, Avicii said:

I agree, something must be done…it’s such a crime that these pills are legal. 
 

I feel you and can relate. I never dress up anymore, don’t shave and I prefer not to shower (don’t want to se my shrunk penis). My garden starts to look like a mess…I used to care about my garden, I don’t anymore.

 

I go to work and I give the kids food and that is pretty much what I do because I have no interest in doing anything else. NO libido, no life, no more friends because of this (I have no interest in them either…). Sometimes I hope that russia just invades Sweden so I can be killed in a bomb attack or something. I am not afraid of dying anymore, when your mind has no joy to offer then why should we even be alive. I only live because I don’t want to traumatise my kids…they are the ones still keeping me alive.

 

Sorry for my negative post but I start to realise that it’s game over for me…

I know that feeling... keep going! Some days will feel a lot more normal soon, but it takes time 😕

[Jakob66]

On 5/7/2022 at 7:22 PM, Fairsome said:

I can totally relate to all of this... I used to be very energetic and full of life, libido was very high, now I can barely get out of bed or eat, I feel so sick and dead inside. I have almost stopped taking care of myself. I am hoping for a miracle to happen - I don't think I will be able to go like this for many years... It is so hard to believe that just taking these pills could destroy us like that and it's a evidence that they should be illegal! 

 

How could I be so stupid to take this poison as scientific research clearly shows that these drugs work no better than placebo... I wasn't even that depressed. Even my worst days before that sh-it, were a heaven compared to this ongoing suffering... 

Agreed they definitely should be banned. Even though my own life might possibly be ruined Im hoping I can warn others about the dangers off these pills. Today I sent a report to the swedish fda ( läkemedelsverket) about what happened to me. I have tried many times to tell different doctors my story but ofcourse they deny it and say it's all just anxety etc

 

It's probably not gonna help anyway but I tried atleast. I recommend all of you guys to send in reports in your country about what happened to you ,the more people the more believeble it is.

[Avicii]

1 hour ago, Jakob66 said:

Agreed they definitely should be banned. Even though my own life might possibly be ruined Im hoping I can warn others about the dangers off these pills. Today I sent a report to the swedish fda ( läkemedelsverket) about what happened to me. I have tried many times to tell different doctors my story but ofcourse they deny it and say it's all just anxety etc

 

It's probably not gonna help anyway but I tried atleast. I recommend all of you guys to send in reports in your country about what happened to you ,the more people the more believeble it is.

They are not gonna listen to you unless you have doctors who are willing to testify in your favour….Läkemedelsverket and bit pharma goes hand in hand….

[Jakob66]

Just now, Avicii said:

They are not gonna listen to you unless you have doctors who are willing to testify in your favour….Läkemedelsverket and bit pharma goes hand in hand….

Förmodligen men om riktigt manga rapporterar om detta så kan dom ju tillslut inte längre dölja det.

 

Probably but if allot of people report about this it will in the end be impossible to hide...

[Jakob66]

1 minute ago, Avicii said:

They are not gonna listen to you unless you have doctors who are willing to testify in your favour….Läkemedelsverket and bit pharma goes hand in hand….

Pretty much impossible to find a doctor who will testify for this