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11 minutes ago, Tyler84 said:

Hello Jack . How was it for you last night ? Feeling any better today ? Or worse ? 

So the .5 mg dose went the same way the first .25 dose went. Very heavy for the first hour. Symptoms starting intensifying for about 20 minutes right before they disappeared slightly after the hour mark. Then I once again ate like an animal. I was so tired but had to fight through to take advantage of the appetite and then about 2 hours after the dose I laid down to sleep and could not. After an hour I took 3 mg of melatonin and then slept through the night. I woke up with some minor burning and akathisia which has been my norm in this withdrawal. But today it did not intensify as bad as it normally does. Both today and yesterday I have been able to function. I cleaned the entire house top to bottom. Today I mowed the lawn which physically a miracle compared to where I was before reinstatement. I’ve been playing guitar and doing laundry since. A lot of burning skin but it has gone from can’t live anymore to moderate to severe discomfort which crazy enough is a huge improvement. I also ate more so far today. It’s too soon to call but I think things are improving. They certainly have improved and I hope they continue. I even drove to the store today and felt completely alert and safe. My DP/DR has stopped since reinstating. 

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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21 minutes ago, Jack37 said:

So the .5 mg dose went the same way the first .25 dose went. Very heavy for the first hour. Symptoms starting intensifying for about 20 minutes right before they disappeared slightly after the hour mark. Then I once again ate like an animal. I was so tired but had to fight through to take advantage of the appetite and then about 2 hours after the dose I laid down to sleep and could not. After an hour I took 3 mg of melatonin and then slept through the night. I woke up with some minor burning and akathisia which has been my norm in this withdrawal. But today it did not intensify as bad as it normally does. Both today and yesterday I have been able to function. I cleaned the entire house top to bottom. Today I mowed the lawn which physically a miracle compared to where I was before reinstatement. I’ve been playing guitar and doing laundry since. A lot of burning skin but it has gone from can’t live anymore to moderate to severe discomfort which crazy enough is a huge improvement. I also ate more so far today. It’s too soon to call but I think things are improving. They certainly have improved and I hope they continue. I even drove to the store today and felt completely alert and safe. My DP/DR has stopped since reinstating. 

 Awesome ! I hope all continues to go well . I’m going to reinstate .5 tonight after being off 3.5 months .  I’m really hoping i don’t freak out but i can’t handle the burning and crazy thoughts .   Fingers crossed ! 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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So things were improving. I was getting better everyday. Then I ate 2 hard boiled eggs and had another bad reaction. The other day when I had the  vitamin d I also ate 2 hard boiled eggs at the same time. Now I think I am reacting to eggs and not the vitamin even though I will not be trying the vitamin again to find out. My skin has been on FIRE since the eggs. I am completely miserable. I am hoping I get relief at my dose tonight. I am not sure why eggs would cause me so much pain. This sucks. I am praying to get back on track soon. I was making so much progress.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Just now, Jack37 said:

So things were improving. I was getting better everyday. Then I ate 2 hard boiled eggs and had another bad reaction. The other day when I had the  vitamin d I also ate 2 hard boiled eggs at the same time. Now I think I am reacting to eggs and not the vitamin even though I will not be trying the vitamin again to find out. My skin has been on FIRE since the eggs. I am completely miserable. I am hoping I get relief at my dose tonight. I am not sure why eggs would cause me so much pain. This sucks. I am praying to get back on track soon. I was making so much progress.

Hey bud are you not following a low histamine diet ? That’s like the main thing that will help all of this .   Anytime i eat high histamine foods i get very sick and my skin burns and i have panic attacks and dizziness .    I’m 3.5 months off and still have histamine intolerances .  I know people off years and still have issues eating high histamines 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Tyler84 said:

Hey bud are you not following a low histamine diet ? That’s like the main thing that will help all of this .   Anytime i eat high histamine foods i get very sick and my skin burns and i have panic attacks and dizziness .    I’m 3.5 months off and still have histamine intolerances .  I know people off years and still have issues eating high histamines 

I thought eggs are allowed. Are they not? I hear conflicting info on this. Do you have problems with eggs?

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Just now, Jack37 said:

I thought eggs are allowed. Are they not? I hear conflicting info on this. Do you have problems with eggs?

I thought they were too but i sometimes have issues . I think it’s the yolks .  And do you eat bread and gluten or tomatoes and cheese and all that ? The histamine builds up over time and overflows causing all the issues .  It takes a coil with weeks to get it back down . I hate it . I’ve lost 60 lbs in the last three months from not being able to eat right .  

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tyler84 said:

I thought they were too but i sometimes have issues . I think it’s the yolks .  And do you eat bread and gluten or tomatoes and cheese and all that ? The histamine builds up over time and overflows causing all the issues .  It takes a coil with weeks to get it back down . I hate it . I’ve lost 60 lbs in the last three months from not being able to eat right .  

I eat a lot of bread but not tomatoes or cheese

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Just now, Jack37 said:

I eat a lot of bread but not tomatoes or cheese

That’s prob why your skin is burning … bread is no good for histamine intolerance 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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Just now, Tyler84 said:

That’s prob why your skin is burning … bread is no good for histamine intolerance 

Thanks so much. The reinstatement is definitely helping me but when I eat the burning gets crazy. Now I know why the mirt keeps my symptoms down at night but not during the day. At night I eat white rice, a small amount of fresh cooked chicken and some broccoli and carrots. I guess because I don’t eat gluten at dinner. The rest of the day bread is a staple for me. I’ll cut it out.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Just now, Jack37 said:

Thanks so much. The reinstatement is definitely helping me but when I eat the burning gets crazy. Now I know why the mirt keeps my symptoms down at night but not during the day. At night I eat white rice, a small amount of fresh cooked chicken and some broccoli and carrots. I guess because I don’t eat gluten at dinner. The rest of the day bread is a staple for me. I’ll cut it out.

Same thing i had to do and i love bread !!! Yes try it out for a week or two and see if it helps .  

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Tyler84 said:

Same thing i had to do and i love bread !!! Yes try it out for a week or two and see if it helps .  

Curious. Do you eat a lot of meat or is meat too high in histamine?

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Just now, Jack37 said:

Curious. Do you eat a lot of meat or is meat too high in histamine?

I have to eat tons of meat and rice . And potatoes i have to to stay somewhat healthy  .   Just no processed meats .  No cured meats like bacon or sausage .  Just steak , chicken stuff like that 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, Jack37 said:

I eat a lot of bread but not tomatoes or cheese

That’s prob why your skin is burning … bread is no good for histamine intolerance 

 

23 hours ago, Tyler84 said:

I have to eat tons of meat and rice . And potatoes i have to to stay somewhat healthy  .   Just no processed meats .  No cured meats like bacon or sausage .  Just steak , chicken stuff like that 

How are you feeling today Jack . I still haven’t reinstated but i really want to . Or take the Xanax I’m prescribed too . I have to get rid of this manic depressive **** 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Tyler84 said:

That’s prob why your skin is burning … bread is no good for histamine intolerance 

 

How are you feeling today Jack . I still haven’t reinstated but i really want to . Or take the Xanax I’m prescribed too . I have to get rid of this manic depressive **** 

I’m still in rough shape. I’m doing the potato-rice thing trying to reduce histamine levels. I am still doing well when I dose. I get like a 12 hour window when I take the Remeron. I think it’s going to have to build up in my blood before it really starts to make a big difference during the day. Still crossing my fingers. I was doing really a lot better until I slipped on the diet stuff. Hopefully things settle down as I continue to build up more Remeron and stick with low histamine foods.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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13 minutes ago, Jack37 said:

I get like a 12 hour window when I take the Remeron.

 

You get a 12-hour window after you take Remeron? Symptoms return in the evening?

 

When did you reinstate a regular 0.50mg/day? Please update your signature.

 

How do you feel after you take your dose now?

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23 minutes ago, Jack37 said:

I’m still in rough shape. I’m doing the potato-rice thing trying to reduce histamine levels. I am still doing well when I dose. I get like a 12 hour window when I take the Remeron. I think it’s going to have to build up in my blood before it really starts to make a big difference during the day. Still crossing my fingers. I was doing really a lot better until I slipped on the diet stuff. Hopefully things settle down as I continue to build up more Remeron and stick with low histamine foods.

I hope so  ! Keep me updated .  Good luck 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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Just now, Tyler84 said:

I hope so  ! Keep me updated .  Good luck 

Stay on the low histamine as much as possible . I’ve been slipping too 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

You get a 12-hour window after you take Remeron? Symptoms return in the evening?

 

When did you reinstate a regular 0.50mg/day? Please update your signature.

 

How do you feel after you take your dose now?

I have taken .5 mg for 4 nights now. I have very little symptoms overnight and then about 12 hours later symptoms return and ramp up. I had a couple of really decent days and then the last two days have been rough with the skin burning? Do you think this will go away with time at this dose? I feel fine after I take my dose.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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My guess is that small dose of mirtazapine is getting metabolized quickly. You might want to add 0.25mg, it may last longer.

 

Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Last night was kinda rough. The last couple of days have been really rough. I seem to be having histamine issues caused by coming off of the Remeron. Aside from the body temperature issues like fever from walking around doing thing I am having severe burning on my skin. Most concerning is the burning inside my nose and throat and tongue almost like an allergic reaction and it is making my life completely unlivable. The burning is the most torturous thing I have ever felt. After reinstatement I was getting significant relief from this symptom which is by far my worst one. That was until I ate 2 eggs on Friday and then the burning came back with a vengeance and has yet to settle down. I still get relief when I dose at night but not complete relief like before. When I took 5 mg of Zyrtec before reinstatement I got nearly 24 hours of complete relief from the burning. I am eating as clean as possible but the burning is relentless. I do not want to take an antihistamine because I want to let things settle. Remeron is an antihistamine but I am afraid at this low dose it is not strong enough to make this burning go away. The Remeron is helping but just not enough yet and I am still completely non functional. I had two days of functionality after reinstatement ate a couple of bad things and straight back to hell. I took .5 mg last night and slept a few hours but woke up burning again then got your message so I took another .25 which stopped the burning again and I fell back asleep. Today the burning is just non stop since around 10 am. I’m beat.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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More and more I am wishing I would have just started taking an antihistamine. This is just awful. I need relief.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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Hmmmm, this is the clearest demonstration yet that burning sensations in mirtazapine withdrawal are a histaminic rebound.

 

Why are you taking Zyrtec? How often do you take it?

 

You may have developed histamine intolerance, a food sensitivity. See 

 

Eating as an activating factor

 

Elimination or exclusion diets for reactions to food (food intolerance)

 

Histamine intolerance

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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1 minute ago, Altostrata said:

Hmmmm, this is the clearest demonstration yet that burning sensations in mirtazapine withdrawal are a histaminic rebound.

 

Why are you taking Zyrtec? How often do you take it?

 

You may have developed histamine intolerance, a food sensitivity. See 

 

Eating as an activating factor

 

Elimination or exclusion diets for reactions to food (food intolerance)

 

Histamine intolerance

I am not taking it. I took it one time at 5 mg (childrens dose) a few days before I reinstated. It gave me a significant amount of relief. However, this is beyond food sensitivity. I am reacting to just about everything. Every time I eat it burns. Some days it just burns non stop whether I eat or not. My Remeron dose gives me a little relief. The one time I took Zyrtec it gave me a lot of relief. My question is if the histaminic rebound will resolve as I stabilize. That is my concern. I am afraid I just got myself back on Remeron for nothing. I guess I just expected a lot more relief than this by day 5. Maybe I am expecting too much. I am considering taking an antihistamine for relief because this is just unbearable. If I could get back to where I was before the egg incident I could bear it but this is just too much.

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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1 hour ago, Jack37 said:

My question is if the histaminic rebound will resolve as I stabilize.

 

Yes.

 

Low-dose reinstatement of mirtazapine will help you stabilize. It is literally a crutch for your system.

 

(Egg whites are high histamine.)

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I have updosed from 1.6 to 2.2 over the last few weeks. Its keeping the Akathisia only just barely tolerable. I really really do not want to updose any more, but voices in my head are telling me that my quality of life is so poor right now and I am one stop away from not being functional. I run a business and a household with no help right now and I just cannot go MIA. Part of me feels like throwing in the towel and just taking 3.75.....its what I did 2 years ago when this happened. I became functional again. Ran my company, did yoga, had a life. Im so torn.

 

zoloft 50 mg 1998  , 1999 switched to Celexa 20mg
2000 switched to Neurontin, Xanax 2 mg, Depakote  .May 2001, cold turkeyed all 3 drugs
reinstated Celexa in the middle of pregnancy, august 2001
after birth of child switched to Prozac weekly september 2002
2008 ..added  Lamictal..dropped after 1 month , switched from Prozac weekly to Effexor 75mg
2010,  upped dose to 150 of Effexor
.tapered down to 20mg over 8 months January to December 2012, started Lexapro 2012 10mg
upped it to 20 mg eventually...Spot treated randomly with .25 of Klonopin once or twice a month
2017  Did not want to switch meds again, tried Lamictal again...c/t after 4 weeks.

added 3.75 mg of Remeron...started researching...found the groups...started taper Sept. 2018.

current doses 4.5 Lexapro, 1.6 Remeron ...updosed Remeron to 2.2 October 2021

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and by the way, I've noticed this pattern with Mirt...it helps right away for a few days...then stops...in the past I always panicked and raised it again. Trying to hold out this time and see if I can stay at 2.2. Good for you for even being on such a low dose. I know its frustrating. This is my second time round doing this with MIrt. I tapered off 2 years ago but 3 months later became so severely compromised I reinstated at 3.75 and had to start all over. I was doing pretty well at 1.6 ...even having some good days, when the Akathisia hit out of the blue. Pacing 8 hours a nite, no sleep, chemical terror. And I am alone. I could not take it. I was terrified. Thats why I updosed to 2.2

 

zoloft 50 mg 1998  , 1999 switched to Celexa 20mg
2000 switched to Neurontin, Xanax 2 mg, Depakote  .May 2001, cold turkeyed all 3 drugs
reinstated Celexa in the middle of pregnancy, august 2001
after birth of child switched to Prozac weekly september 2002
2008 ..added  Lamictal..dropped after 1 month , switched from Prozac weekly to Effexor 75mg
2010,  upped dose to 150 of Effexor
.tapered down to 20mg over 8 months January to December 2012, started Lexapro 2012 10mg
upped it to 20 mg eventually...Spot treated randomly with .25 of Klonopin once or twice a month
2017  Did not want to switch meds again, tried Lamictal again...c/t after 4 weeks.

added 3.75 mg of Remeron...started researching...found the groups...started taper Sept. 2018.

current doses 4.5 Lexapro, 1.6 Remeron ...updosed Remeron to 2.2 October 2021

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On 10/9/2021 at 6:25 PM, Tyler84 said:

I hope so  ! Keep me updated .  Good luck 

Stay on the low histamine as much as possible . I’ve been slipping too 

 

 

feeling any better yet jack ? I still haven’t reinstated I’m so scared to start this process all over again .  So stuck 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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I feel the same, Tyler. I’ve updosed to 2.2 but still having severe symptoms 

 

zoloft 50 mg 1998  , 1999 switched to Celexa 20mg
2000 switched to Neurontin, Xanax 2 mg, Depakote  .May 2001, cold turkeyed all 3 drugs
reinstated Celexa in the middle of pregnancy, august 2001
after birth of child switched to Prozac weekly september 2002
2008 ..added  Lamictal..dropped after 1 month , switched from Prozac weekly to Effexor 75mg
2010,  upped dose to 150 of Effexor
.tapered down to 20mg over 8 months January to December 2012, started Lexapro 2012 10mg
upped it to 20 mg eventually...Spot treated randomly with .25 of Klonopin once or twice a month
2017  Did not want to switch meds again, tried Lamictal again...c/t after 4 weeks.

added 3.75 mg of Remeron...started researching...found the groups...started taper Sept. 2018.

current doses 4.5 Lexapro, 1.6 Remeron ...updosed Remeron to 2.2 October 2021

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@Altostrata

 

So I updosed another .25 mg 4 nights ago and things have improved a little but I am still suffering. I am considering updosing another .25 mg tonight. I continue to have this burning skin. Even during my night windows it comes though sometimes. Last night the burning came through a lot. This morning my skin is burning pretty significantly. I am considering moving up another .25 tonight to 1 mg. I am still not sleeping without melatonin. I am sleeping better than before reinstatement but still very broken. My appetite has improved but is still poor. I have waves of anxiety. The burning skin is my most unsettling symptom. This makes me have to go pace around or walk around because it is just too uncomfortable to sit still or lie down. I also don't like seeing myself lose weight like this. For the most part my weight has stabilized since reinstatement but I am still unable to eat breakfast everyday. What do you think?

6 months 2004 5 mg librium daily C/T * 6/2015 10 mg V 30 days C/T
1/2017 2 mg V 10 days C/T * 1/2018 Ambien 30 days C/T
6/2018 Xanax .25mg nightly up to .5mg 2x daily
5 months extreme tolerance/hospitalization
11/2018 - C/T Xanax started Ativan 2mg daily fast taper
started mirt 15mg Jumped from Ativan 12/31/18
8/21/2019 started mirt taper cut to 13.5 mg 9/4 13.2 * 10/13 11.1 * 11/10 10.5 * 12/1 9.6 * 1/5/20 8.55 * 2/6 7.26.3 * 3/5 6 * 3/26 5.1 *
6/1 4.95 * 7/6 4.05 * 8/11 3.15 * 9/19 3 * 10/1 2.64  * 11/1 2.04 * 12/1 1.68 * 1/1/21 1.38 * 3/1 1.08 * 4/5 .78 * 6/21 .3 * 7/4 .18 * 7/11 .12 *

7/18 .06 mg * 7/25/2021 .03 mg * 7/31/2021 Took last dose of Remeron
Reinstated Remeron 10/4/21 at  .25 mg * Increased to .5 mg on 10/5 * Increased to .75 on 10/9
Take Nexium 40 mg daily

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You're doing a good job of observing the effects of updoses.

 

Yes, you might increase by 0.25mg. The effective amount of reinstatement cannot be predicted, starting low and gradually titrating up is the way to do it. Keep in mind mirtazapine effect will increase over a week.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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On 10/12/2021 at 8:56 PM, HLH44 said:

I feel the same, Tyler. I’ve updosed to 2.2 but still having severe symptoms 

Damn man so sorry . How are you doing tonight ? 

2012- 2018 clonazepam .5 for noise explosion in my ears /vestibular disorder /vertigo and balance issues . 
tapered off clonazepam thru 2018 

2018 -2021 15 mg mirtazapine 

Jan 21 7.5 mg mirt

March 21 - 5 mg mirt 

april- june21 -  3 mg mirt 

june 15 21 thru -jun26 1 mg mirt and stopped . 

 

 

 

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