success ☼ MrAnxious: 3 months off Effexor XR (6 years on)

[Karma]

Hey MrA

 

I'm sorry I haven't been around to post ... I switched from one mode of a hormone to another and jacked myself up - it has caused severe AM anxiety. I know the anxiety you are experiencing. For the last two days I've had the disrupted sleep where I wake up every hour and then in the morning I'm so wired that there is nothing left for it, but to get up and get moving. Then I get sweaty, a little nauseous and can't focus even though it is the same routine every morning for me.

 

So yeah, I do understand. But like Peggy said I just need to work at not believing the negative thoughts. I know this will pass and I will feel better again. I've gone through it before.

 

I do freak myself out sometimes wondering if I'll ever stabilize and worried that if I don't I'll lose my job and everything I appreciate in my life. But those are irrational fears ... they are neuroemotions and the will pass. What I've learned to do is to distract myself rather than dwell on the thoughts that give me discomfort.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Karma

[MrAnxious]

Thanks Everyone for your time and support, I do realize it was the anxiety taking grip of me. I truly believe in the advice that alto,rhi,peggy,karma,barb and more have given me. I really do , don't get the impression that I don't, it's just the sick way my mind is working right now that makes me hesitant of starting this withdrawl all over again. The hardest part is having a doctor 1 month of way, a interview tommorow that will determine if I can pay my bills in the next month, it's down to crunch time making this all worse I can only imagine.

 

I guess a part of me is uneducated when it comes to this reinstatement and it scares me. Like if I take 10 beads for a month and then 9 for a month until I am down to 1 bead, once I come off that 1 bead does that mean the withdrawl is done or after the 1 bead to 0, is it just going to begin? Or am I healing my nervous system the whole time that I am tapering? I just need those questions answered and then I am done asking questions and just going to follow this taper. I PROMISE !!!! Oh and with my new doctor what do I tell her that I am on Effexor and need this dose so I can take out the beads, cause I am sure she doesn't know about withdrawl either.

 

 

 

Thanks again to everyone, I really don't know where i'd be with all your answers and support. I will definitely pay this forward once I start feeling better.

[Skyler]

Like if I take 10 beads for a month and then 9 for a month until I am down to 1 bead, once I come off that 1 bead does that mean the withdrawl is done or after the 1 bead to 0, is it just going to begin? Or am I healing my nervous system the whole time that I am tapering? I just need those questions answered and then I am done asking questions and just going to follow this taper. I PROMISE !!!! Oh and with my new doctor what do I tell her that I am on Effexor and need this dose so I can take out the beads, cause I am sure she doesn't know about withdrawl either.

Thanks again to everyone, I really don't know where i'd be with all your answers and support. I will definitely pay this forward once I start feeling better.

 

Withdrawal does not begin all over again and your nervous system heals as you taper. You will heal faster with the addition of the 10 beads of Effexor Alto has advised. She taught us and no one here will tell you otherwise. Alto's advice is based on personal experience, advice from experts in the field, and anecdotal observations, etc. It is better, IMHO and that of others here, than you will find anywhere. You are asking the choir questions the director has already answered (the choir ends up preaching to you).

 

How withdrawal acts on the level of individual neuroceptors is not known. The scientist who finds the answer would be in line for a Nobel Prize.

 

Most docs don't know about withdrawal, so don't plan on your doc being able to help. I'm unclear as to what you are expecting during your apt. in Sept as you will you will find she cannot give you an informed opinion. Read some of the resources we have directed you to and take information with you to the apt if you feel a need to discuss your taper schedule with her. I would start there.. To pay it forward you need to be informed so read up. This would be an ample reward to those who have helped so far.

 

Sigh.. Mr. A. be good to yourself, give you the best chance to heal. The more we reiterate the same information, the longer we hold out the false possibility a good alternative is to be had. I believe we are actually enabling you to avoid reinstating a low dose of Effexor that may help. (BTW.. you need to proceed month by month and no one can tell you (for sure) in advance exactly how to much to taper. We all have to listen to our bodies, and your anxiety is interfering with the need you have to listen to yours.)

 

Please do not ignore the contents of this message and just repost same again below.. all your questions are the same.. you are looking for a way to stop withdrawal symptoms and related anxiety which has been superimposed on the considerable anxiety you have always felt. Your resistance is phenomenal. There is no way except to follow advice you have already been given.

[MrAnxious]

Thank you for the Reply , all my questions have now been answered and I appreciate the time and effort made by all to answer them. This Anxiety has really taken over my well being as you can see. My interview went well today and I think that I just may have the job.

 

This experience has shook me to the very core of my well being and all of you also I am sure. I am going to lose my biggest support today(my father) leave for 3 months to Europe. Other than that , you guys/girls are really all I've got.

 

So reinstatement tonight it is, going to take it at nightime and going to stick to it , until I meet my new doctor and give her the update on everything that has went on.

 

I never ever doubted Alto and commend her ability and knowledge to help others and commit her time, So thanks for the important info Alto. Schuyler thanks for your input it really helped me. and to everyone else that has followed my quest to get better.

 

 

Thank you

[jr1985]

Good luck, MrAnxious, I hope reinstatement works for you, and good luck with your new job, I hope you get it.

[MrAnxious]

Good luck, MrAnxious, I hope reinstatement works for you, and good luck with your new job, I hope you get it.

 

Thanks alot Jr, that really means alot to me .. all the best in your journey and keep it touch my friend.

[Karma]

Mr A

 

I find having my job to go to actually helps me keep grounded. Even when I was suffering anxiety this week when I got to work I was able to focus on the work at hand and ignore the irrational thoughts and most of the anxiety.

 

Here is hoping that you get the job and stick with the reinstatement. You may find that after one month on 10 beads that you aren't quite stable and need to hold it another two weeks. Then you decrement. As Rhi has said, listen to your body and by doing that you can avoid the nasty withdrawal symptoms.

 

So happy for you that your interview went well today.

 

Karma

[Skyler]

So reinstatement tonight it is, going to take it at nightime and going to stick to it , until I meet my new doctor and give her the update on everything that has went on.

Thank you

 

I'm very glad to hear you are taking 10 beads of effexor. Don't expect miracles right away and then get disappointed. It will take awhile for your body to respond. Sorry to hear your Dad will be away for so long. Hope the job news is good. ~S

[MrAnxious]

Well it's been over a week now and I don't honestly feel like I am getting any better on the 10 beads, and I really need the job that I just started and it's so complicated.

 

I really have to wait until my doctors/meet and greet on Sept 4th. I am going to explain my situation and then go from there. I honestly am getting windows and waves. One day I will feel okay and then the next day(Crazy worry, life is collapsing, anxiety huge) then it goes away. The insomnia has to be the worst of it, first day of training went good folks, even though I haven't slept for 24 hours now, just sat up worrying about it and you know what, it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem. The people were very friendly, it is walmart though.

 

Going through the 3 step interview over a week's time definitely helped me gain a little positive in myself, having to interact with people, the hardest part though is not being able to say much and just fake a smile kinda. I am pushing through all this and not stopping and facing every fear head on , I pray before I go in there and hope that god takes care of this all and guides me and gives me strength.

 

Will this insomnia eventually go away because it's been over a good month and half with it? I am 4months 14 days roughly off effexor, never been through a worse hell in my life, but I have realized I've never really been through anything terrible, except losing grandparents, learning that life can be a struggle, defining myself and what I am made off is thing's I am truly learning here.

 

My parents are gone for 3 months now and can't wait for them to get back, as my dad is a huge support for me. Girlfriend is also there. I am just going to have to wait this out, wait for the doctor and see what she has to say. I thank everyone on here for the support and timely answers. If I can help one person out of all this , I really will. Never have I experienced such a consistent hell on earth, but I have faith, will power and have to be thankful for what I do have and not focus so much on the negatives as hard as it can be.

 

 

I'll be back guys

[Skyler]

Well it's been over a week now and I don't honestly feel like I am getting any better on the 10 beads, and I really need the job that I just started and it's so complicated.

Unfortunately, you were off for a long time before reinstating, so this may not work. Still, taking this action could forestall the emergence of postwithdrawal issues further down the line.

 

Going through the 3 step interview over a week's time definitely helped me gain a little positive in myself, having to interact with people, the hardest part though is not being able to say much and just fake a smile kinda.

I'm glad your job situation is helping and sorry to hear your parents absence because of thier 3 month trip to Europe is difficult for you.

 

I really have to wait until my doctors/meet and greet on Sept 4th. I am going to explain my situation and then go from there. I honestly am getting windows and waves. One day I will feel okay and then the next day(Crazy worry, life is collapsing, anxiety huge) then it goes away. The insomnia has to be the worst of it, first day of training went good folks, even though I haven't slept for 24 hours now, just sat up worrying about it and you know what, it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem. The people were very friendly, it is walmart though.

 

The fact you are having windows and waves, as trying as they may be, is a good sign. Yes, eventually the insomnia will go away. Unfortunately your system was already sensitized by going off the AD CT, so it will take time for this to resolve.

 

You mention the visit to your doc on Sept 4 every time you post. What do you expect she may suggest you do not already know?? If you are very lucky, she will support your current taper plans, if not, you will end up with a script for another AD. At best, switching to another AD will put you back to square one with most of the effexor side effects, at worst (more likely), the withdrawal symptoms will not stop (your nervous system is now neurosensitized) and the new AD will leave you needing to withdraw from a higher dose. It's your call.. I would not go there.

 

You are looking for an alternate path where none exits. This makes you a high risk for being treated with multiple meds to resolve a problem one AD originally caused. If you hold fast, the symptoms will go away and you will be free of the psychotropic jungle. I know it's hard, but there is not other way to get clear of this junk. No chemical can erase anxiety arising from your personality structure.. psychotherapy can help, but not drugs.

 

Unfortunately withdrawal makes it more difficult for all of us to deal with who we really are. Could the root anxiety that plagues you, the anxiety you have always had, be your biggest foe?

[Barbarannamated]

Mr. Anxious,

 

Good to hear you're able to be on the job. That must have been very stressful to anticipate how you would handle that.

 

You may still feel shaky, but your message, or online "voice", is MUCH STRONGER than just a week ago. It's often difficult for us to recognize subtle changes in ourselves in the midst of neurologic chaos. I just wanted to mention that you sound stronger even if you dont notice it. Please give yourself credit!

 

Keep us posted, please.

[MrAnxious]

Thanks for the Support Barbara ! I really appreciate that and you do have a great point, never noticed that I sounded stronger, guess that's why it helps to post. My anxiety just comes on out of the blue, and I have to give myself credit. My life situation isn't great, but could be alot worse, so I am appreciate of that. The panic is slowly subsiding, guess once I get this new job buisness out of the way, thing's will start to sort themselves out.

 

Schuyler I appreciate the advice,

 

 

I am just gonna fight this horrible struggle and hope that one day I will be happy again. I honestly just think that functioning is the main part here and on effexor i could function, but so many negatives too it also.

 

Just through the insomnia,headaches,fog etc..it's a struggle to get up each day BUT i am doing it and should take faith in that.

 

 

Thank you to those who support me emotionally on this journey, it's great that I have kept this journal to see how I have progressed since I joined.

 

 

bye for now !

[Skyler]

I am going to explain my situation and then go from there. I honestly am getting windows and waves. One day I will feel okay and then the next day(Crazy worry, life is collapsing, anxiety huge) then it goes away. The insomnia has to be the worst of it, first day of training went good folks, even though I haven't slept for 24 hours now, just sat up worrying about it and you know what, it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem. The people were very friendly, it is walmart though.

 

I just went back are reread your original post, speaking of journaling. There was no mention of windows and waves or a description of intermittent symptoms. When did you start having days that were free or mostly so of withdrawal symptoms? Tracking the days that are okay would be a way of measuring your progress so it's important to keep a daily log. Given this, you may not be in for a overlong withdrawal so look for the positive here. The tricky part about windows and waves (been there!), is they will seem worst just before they start to remit. I think there is something with the nervous systems recovery that makes this so.. Watch for improvement, K?

 

Good to see you are hanging tough.. go Martin.

[Altostrata]

You might add 10 beads, do this consistently at the same time every day for a week, and see if 20 beads helps. 10 beads might not be enough.

[MrAnxious]

You might add 10 beads, do this consistently at the same time every day for a week, and see if 20 beads helps. 10 beads might not be enough.

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I am wondering if I should go to a clinic tommorow , just not sure what dosage I would recommend to start back up on,

 

Or if I will try the 20 beads, that sounds like a good idea.

 

 

If I was on 150mg then would 75mg be a good dose to go back on? , or 37.5 ? This would be a interesting question

 

 

Thanks Alto !

[MrAnxious]

 

I am going to explain my situation and then go from there. I honestly am getting windows and waves. One day I will feel okay and then the next day(Crazy worry, life is collapsing, anxiety huge) then it goes away. The insomnia has to be the worst of it, first day of training went good folks, even though I haven't slept for 24 hours now, just sat up worrying about it and you know what, it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem. The people were very friendly, it is walmart though.

 

I just went back are reread your original post, speaking of journaling. There was no mention of windows and waves or a description of intermittent symptoms. When did you start having days that were free or mostly so of withdrawal symptoms? Tracking the days that are okay would be a way of measuring your progress so it's important to keep a daily log. Given this, you may not be in for a overlong withdrawal so look for the positive here. The tricky part about windows and waves (been there!), is they will seem worst just before they start to remit. I think there is something with the nervous systems recovery that makes this so.. Watch for improvement, K?

 

Good to see you are hanging tough.. go Martin.

 

Good call Schuyler and thanks for the advice, I think either I am going through a really bad couple weeks/pocket or I am really locked down and see brief moments of normalacy, just not greatness. Haven't slept for 30hour cycle and then did training day 3 at Walmart on no sleep, ahhhh rough and still up at 12:49 why don't I feel tired at all but head feels exhausted, it's wierd...

[peggy]

Hi Mr A...

If i was you, i would probably go to 37.5 -or maybe even 75mg - maybe 10 beads isn't enough (10 beads of my effexor is only 3mg) You did cold turkey so you need to find stability somewhere near your last dose. I could be totally wrong though... I would be trying to stabilise - no matter what the dose as quickly as possible and then looking at a more appropriate taper at 10% per month from here on. I wouldn't be wanting to change medication and i wouldn't be listening to too many Doctors

[Skyler]

 

You might add 10 beads, do this consistently at the same time every day for a week, and see if 20 beads helps. 10 beads might not be enough.

 

 

I am wondering if I should go to a clinic tommorow , just not sure what dosage I would recommend to start back up on,

 

Or if I will try the 20 beads, that sounds like a good idea.

 

 

If I was on 150mg then would 75mg be a good dose to go back on? , or 37.5 ? This would be a interesting question

 

 

Thanks Alto !

 

Hi Martin.. Why don't you want to go at a rate that lets you listen to your body. That's what Alto wants you to do. You are concerned about updosing but want to go to a clinic. What do you think they would tell you? Do you honestly think they would give you a script that would erase the difficulty that has come because of the CT from Effexor 5 months back. Do you think this is possible, or are you looking for someone who will be an authority, take the burden off. My guess is this would help for a day or so because of the psychological fix this would give.. then you would be back to the same place you are now. The only way to roll back the clock on some of the neurosensitization you feel is to go to the same body that has been hurt.. and LISTEN to yourself. Ever so carefully, ever so gently.

 

Alto's very cautious advice is based on what you report, not the size pills manufactured by Big Pharma. You want to ask the clinics if you should go back on a standard dose.. why do you even want to go is my question. You know more than they do now, and you know what you feel. What is to lose by increasing by a smaller amount.. and at this point, larger doses are very unlikely to stop withdrawal symptoms though they may well increase them. I wish this was otherwise.

 

 

I am going to explain my situation and then go from there. I honestly am getting windows and waves. One day I will feel okay and then the next day(Crazy worry, life is collapsing, anxiety huge) then it goes away. The insomnia has to be the worst of it, first day of training went good folks, even though I haven't slept for 24 hours now, just sat up worrying about it and you know what, it really wasn't as bad as I made it seem. The people were very friendly, it is walmart though.

 

Martin.. if I have you right, you are planning to bypass Alto's advice and continue on 10 beads. Given the insomnia you have, it would behove you to listen. Hmmm, I think you have a pattern of ignoring input you are uncomfortable with, am I right? This would also be in the larger world, in RL... your MO is to walk away from nuanced advice to your detriment.

 

Curiously, you respond well to my (hopefully gentle) confrontative approach, I wonder if this is because this offsets your propensity to run. So here goes, PLEASE, before looking into a larger updose, go for cautious.. TAKE THE 20 BEADS.

 

LOL.. My Goodness! Your superior intelligence shows in all the evasive strategies you come up with. This time, do what makes the most sense as opposed to what your anxiety tells you .. Put that mind of yours to work on your behalf!!

[jr1985]

I am wondering if I should go to a clinic tommorow , just not sure what dosage I would recommend to start back up on,

 

Or if I will try the 20 beads, that sounds like a good idea.

 

 

If I was on 150mg then would 75mg be a good dose to go back on? , or 37.5 ? This would be a interesting question

 

 

Thanks Alto !

 

Sorry but I really doubt the clinic are going to know what dose to put you on. I'd be willing to bet they'd suggest the full dose, which IMO is a BAD idea!

 

You quit cold turkey and have been off for over 3 months. A month taper and month off were enough to sensitise me to the drug, so that I could no longer tolerate 75mg.

 

I managed to get stable on half of my original dose but not without new side effects. The problems I'm having now are likely to do that plus the fact u've been messing around with the dose.

 

Personally, I would listen to alto and try 20 beads, then maybe 30, 40 and so on until you feel better.

 

Hope it works for you!

[Altostrata]

That's the way I'd do it, jr.

 

MrA, you need to be systematic and disciplined in finding the right dose for you.

 

I've answered all your questions before in this topic. Next time you want to ask the same questions, read the topic instead.

[MrAnxious]

Hey everyone (peggy,Jr,schu,alto)

 

 

I just want to get one thing clear here, Someone give you the impression that I Cold turkeyed? well that is not the case. I have it in my signature and it was a 2 month taper, unless you consider this CT well then okay? But I did come down gradually over 2 months but I believe it was from 225mg , but I wasn't on 225mg for long(4-6months) I was mostly 150mg, think the doc tried 225 after 150mg pooped out afterwhile(5years).

 

Also Schulyer I don't mind your approach but please don't try to assume that I am thinking all these things or over analyzing what I am saying because I am not thinking anything in the nature of what you wrote. I just like to be informed fully of every angle and I know you understand this because while we are going through this we have to look at every angle possible before making an informed decision.

 

A. I did listen to Alto and took 10 beads for a period of over 7 days, this did not work as it probably isn't just enough, so I am following Alto's advice about the 20 beads and going to start that up today.

 

B. I asked about the "clinic" because I have 7 pills left, a refill bottle from Dec 12/2012, the last bottle before I had tapered and was worried that I would not have enough pills going 20 beads to last me until my new doc appointment on Sept 4th(meet and greet) and then was worried that this new doctor might not believe in tapering and not refill my prescription and thought well if I run out I will have to go through this hell again, so many things I have to think about to go into this process , so please don't try to look at the other side of it cause their is no other side of it.

 

Good news to fix all this: Gf told me call in my prescription and check it out, never even thought about it, just assumed the worst(in my mind state it's not uncommon). The lady said yes you have 90 pills remaining, so I ordered them up and I can pick them up tommorow. My nerves can rest. Now I will start up the 20 beads and see how that goes and I can always up the 20 beads if need be.

 

* I thank everyone that has been supportive in this journey, you all have experienced and your help and answering repeated questions due to my anxiety has been very helpful in making appropriate timely choice and try to rule out a bad mistake which I believe hasn't been made yet. I am like a scientific experiment, find out all the research , put it all together and then make a decision of what exact route I want to go through ,after all it is my body right.

 

Never did I once doubt Alto's advice, I know that she is brilliant and have read many comments by her on internet posts and commend her effort to take the time out of her schedule to help us, have already listen to much of her advice and will continue too.

 

We are just human being's put on these drugs that have altered our well being. I have found out so much about myself through this whole process, anxiety/insomnia aside it's been quite the ride emotional/physically.

 

 

 

- So all in all THANK YOU to EVERYONE and I look forward to telling people of my progress of how the 20 beads are going to do. I am young and still uneducated but growing into a wise young man.

 

 

Schuyler No hard feelings at all, really like to be your friend , just throw the supportive attitude at me please , the other one doesn't go over too well, just sounds like you bashing me and I've had enough of that in my life. Maybe it's the way you deal with others but I just don't respond well to someone attacking/confrontational approach. (My father was like this) I am just here to look for help and advice on medication and support on this journey.

 

 

 

I love everyone and will give anyone the help they need if asked, I do have a very big heart and love working with people , even if I can't work with myself sometimes. But that is usually the case.

 

 

Bye everyone,

[MrAnxious]

Also the only thing that is worrying me is that I start midnights on my new job stocking shelves. So the concern here is taking 20 beads and then feeling like absolute garbage for my first few shifts, which usually make the impression on people. Like right now I feel fine, it's when there is pressure on me that all the symptoms seem to heighten like crazy, but it's not like I have a option here.

 

 

So if I take the 20 beads should I start them tonight or wait until midnights start which is tommorow 11-7pm? Also working midnights have me anxious/nervous with the state that I am in, but could be a blessing in disguise, not sure til I try right, not like I am sleeping properly right now anyways.

 

Being 29 years old I have so many questions as my future is in a state of confusion..

 

 

Any suggestions are welcome and JR it sounds like we have alot of the same story with the effexor, how are you making out?

[MrAnxious]

okay have taken the 20 beads and will keep yall updated. remember this day !

[MrAnxious]

Okay So I tried the 20 beads last night, a hour or two later, wow...cold/freezing, wild anxiety like none other,racing thoughts, out of body feeling( probably the worst feeling out of any of the days) thinking I am too far out if 20 beads affects me like that..10 beads did too...

 

I am really lost at what to do now, thinking I just have to ride this out. My body just won't take the effexor anymore. So now I have to figure out the next best venue, probably just to fight fight and fight somemore, until my nervous system settles down or unlocks.

 

Just hate feeling like this everyday, I am not the only one though.

 

 

I will keep everyone updated, first midnight shift tonight- hope all goes well.

 

 

Any advice is welcomed.

[Altostrata]

Do you usually take your Effexor dose at night? Did you take only 20 beads in 24 hours?

[fj929]

Do you usually take your Effexor dose at night? Did you take only 20 beads in 24 hours?

 

 

Beads??

[peggy]

Mr A, how many beads in your capsules and what size are the capsules - have you worked out how many mg per bead...

[MrAnxious]

Do you usually take your Effexor dose at night? Did you take only 20 beads in 24 hours?

 

 

Yes that is what I was told 20 beads ? So I would assume that would be in 24 hours because nobody told me otherwise.

[MrAnxious]

Letter I just wrote to my dad, Please tell me what you think

 

 

Thanks for the encouraging words dad but this is beyond anything at work, I have been feelin this way for quite sometime now and it's just gotten worse, it's not getting better. I feel like I am gonna have a heart attack or stroke any minute, the lack of sleeping, the pressure to perform, this has gotten out of control. I am screwed if I do and screwed if I don't. It's really hard to know what exactly I am going through but I am not the only one, withdrawling and i know 100% that is what it is off 6 years of effexor is death.

 

The constant insomnia (not being able to shut my brain off), the anxiety(can't even control it) it's there 24/7 , the constant headache and fog, the clicks in my head.. this is more than I am able to fight through and in a world where you can't rest to recover, you aren't left with too many options, which is terrible. They created this problem and now I have to suffer from/through it.

 

No matter how bad I tell people that I am feeling inside, no one seems to get it. Getting up for a midnight shift , working it and being physically exhasted just made it 100% worse which it will, because anything that involves stress on the body/mind will just send me into fits.

 

I've never had any problem in the past working at shell,darlington..when I felt good, Effexor ruined all my other jobs and it's why i skipped from job to job etc, it made me into somebody I was not. The more and more I read about peoples experience's on it, the more and more I understand that it turned me into not "marty". I can't turn back the clock, what is , is what is . But right now the pressure on my head is so immense i thought i was gonna drop in the ailse, my back is burning and heating up etc, it's called exhaustion and eventually I will just drop because of it , i am beat , tired, exhausted, drained...not myself at all,

 

Where is God right now when I need him the most? I ask for healing yet there is nothing. I am gonna have to work 3 or 4 shifts straight and wow I am going to just implode, i see it coming, the enevitable. So please it's not about the job, or working, cause I've always had the ethic, it's about my mind/brain/body not working together and I wanna cry 1000 times over and i can't even right now cause my whole system is locked up, probably shouldn't even be driving, and it's not cause you left so don't think that, it's the amount of stress and pressure this whole process has made it worse. I am not depressed but it's gonna make me that I am , it's coming...

 

Now it's 6pm and I really can't go to the hospital , I have to work and I am ready to break down. In the position I am in the past 4 months, i really haven't been able to take care of myself even. But I have struggled,fought and fight...now i am just beat up ,drained and asking the lord for mercy.

 

 

I love you, and I really hope all this get's sorted out, if I have to go back on those horrible drugs well then be it and then start this whole process all over again. But then do it slowly coming down?

 

 

Love you,

[peggy]

i would not send that to your dad. It is your anxiety talking. You haven't had these symptoms 24/7 - read back over your posts.

 

You are stuck in a cycle of bad thinking - the more you think that way the deeper the ruts become. You need to change direction a bit and try and change the path - remember the neurons that wire together fire together.

[MrAnxious]

i would not send that to your dad. It is your anxiety talking. You haven't had these symptoms 24/7 - read back over your posts.

 

You are stuck in a cycle of bad thinking - the more you think that way the deeper the ruts become. You need to change direction a bit and try and change the path - remember the neurons that wire together fire together.

 

 

 

Honestly that is the pain speaking, i am in pain. It doesn't seem to be letting up either, just looking for help now. I haven't slept at all after working an exhausting midnight shift, not sure what to do now... I just feel tired, sick, beat up...and feel like this is never going to life almost 5 months out in 7 days...

 

Anybody...

[Barbarannamated]

It WILL ease up. It feels like it will never let up, but it will.

[Skyler]

 

i would not send that to your dad. It is your anxiety talking. You haven't had these symptoms 24/7 - read back over your posts.

 

You are stuck in a cycle of bad thinking - the more you think that way the deeper the ruts become. You need to change direction a bit and try and change the path - remember the neurons that wire together fire together.

 

 

 

Honestly that is the pain speaking, i am in pain. It doesn't seem to be letting up either, just looking for help now. I haven't slept at all after working an exhausting midnight shift, not sure what to do now... I just feel tired, sick, beat up...and feel like this is never going to life almost 5 months out in 7 days...

 

Anybody...

 

Martin, have you ever worked a night shift before? If so, how did it go. More than a few find working the nightime hours challenging. Walmart had no other shift available?.. Gosh, that has to be very tough, all the more with the withdrawal symptoms you are having. ~S

[MrAnxious]

 

 

i would not send that to your dad. It is your anxiety talking. You haven't had these symptoms 24/7 - read back over your posts.

 

You are stuck in a cycle of bad thinking - the more you think that way the deeper the ruts become. You need to change direction a bit and try and change the path - remember the neurons that wire together fire together.

 

 

 

Honestly that is the pain speaking, i am in pain. It doesn't seem to be letting up either, just looking for help now. I haven't slept at all after working an exhausting midnight shift, not sure what to do now... I just feel tired, sick, beat up...and feel like this is never going to life almost 5 months out in 7 days...

 

Anybody...

 

Martin, have you ever worked a night shift before? If so, how did it go. More than a few find working the nightime hours challenging. Walmart had no other shift available?.. Gosh, that has to be very tough, all the more with the withdrawal symptoms you are having. ~S

 

It's the only shift available ya i'd have no problem if i could sleep and get re energized..I just feel like i can't go to the hospital cause they will just put me back on the pill, but if i went back to effexor low dose then maybe i could slowly come off ?

 

 

Last week when i went the lady gives me a presciption for zoloft, which i never took, not gonna switch ad's, in a crap shoot right now and going to work tonight..wish me luck,

 

thanks Schuyler,

 

feels good to know people care about me, as i do for you.

[Altostrata]

peggy is right, it's your anxiety talking.

 

I note you did not describe your situation as antidepressant withdrawal syndrome in your letter, MrA.

 

Perhaps avoiding the reality is keeping you from dealing with it?

 

Take 20 beads at the same time every day. If they don't help at all after a week, take 30 beads at the same time every day.

 

Working the night shift is not going to help withdrawal insomnia.

[MrAnxious]

I didn't mention it in the letter because he already know's about it..he is my main support and yah that was heavy anxiety that just comes over me , my mind can be totally blank, I am in huge withdrawl like hyper withdrawl and I was just hoping/wishful thinking that I could just beat it, but not with all this job stuff etc..you guys/girls know how intense and debilitating it can be.

 

So long story short, I went to the Emergency(hospital) sat there for like 2 hours in a room/booth and when the doctor came in I explained that I went off effexor too quickly and that I would like a lower dose, well he understood(surprisingly) and prescribed me 75mg effexor Xr

 

The worst part is he only gave me 14 days worth. I figure he thought that I could go back to my doctor, which my new doctor is on sept 4th, so I will have to go to a clinic in my town and get a script til I meet this new doctor and explain my situation.

 

Wow these past 4 months have tested every inch of me, but you know what I am still alive, been tor tortured but have lived to tell about it. So now is Part 2, going back on the med, hope 75mg is the right dose. So how will I found out if it was withdrawl again, if my symptoms go away after taking the pill? Lots of questions coming, appreciate all the help everyone and thank you for your time. I am getting somewhere even if I have to go back on them, gonna accept it and stabilize and then I will be asking about the tapering in the future.

 

 

Here is too hope, One day I want to be a recovery story, p.s my 3rd midnight shift and even though I am mute, seem to be getting by. I am stocking shelves at walmart, jeez my back feels like I have been beaten 100 times over with a bat. Need rest, going to sleep now.

 

 

Take care,